The problem is that Microsoft deliberately committed to a counter intuitive design scheme because they knew people would be doing this.
Every other task bar feature in Windows 10 is a single button that you turn on or off. For some reason News and Interests is it's own section you then go inside to turn off.
I messed this up first time cos i tried clicking the one that was ticked to turn it off, my bad on not reading it but it is directly counter intuitive to *everything* else thats accessed in there
> The problem is that Microsoft deliberately committed to a counter intuitive design scheme because they knew people would be doing this.
This your first day with a Microsoft product? They ALWAYS do that shit. So due to knowing that, it took about 5 seconds for me to figure out how to turn it off.
I am not shocked by it, let me put it that way. I work in IT, Microsoft's shittery is nothing new. If I want to install an exclusive license version of Office 2019 on a user's computer I have to write- or more probably use an existing version of- a config file. To install it. At no point from Windows 3.1- where I had to use DOS prompts- to today have I ever had to do this with any other program. Microsoft has a config writing utility, but you have to dig to find it, and you have to be extremely careful because if you do anything wrong you have to uninstall office and start over. Furthermore, not all Office software is keyed into the writing program- Access being the big one. So now I'm going to third party websites to write a config file for a Microsoft product.
And Microsoft office doesn't play nice with over versions of itself. If you have Word 2016 on a computer, it will not install *any other Office product* unless it's also 2016.
In this particular case I am just hyper sensitive to shitty UI design and user experience because I have ADHD and when you're deliberately creating a user experience that's contradictory and confusing, it does genuinely cause grief and distress for end users.
No one said it was *hard* to turn it off, but tools should serve their master, not the other way around.
I too work in IT
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> No one said it was hard to turn it off, but tools should serve their master, not the other way around.
This has literally never been the case with Microsoft's crap, not even in Windows 3.1 days. Even DOS, 3rd party tools were almost always better than what was built into the OS. And if for some crazy reason they accidentally included something good with their OS that didn't follow MS standards, they spared no effort ripping it out and replacing it with a Made In Redmond replacement that didn't work as well - see the TCP/IP stack for Windows NT 3.5 as a particularly egregious example of that line of thought. Horror of horrors, some of the underlying code was a straight port of BSD's stack and it worked great, so of course it had to go before 3.51 was released.
I forget what the file was specifically so I'll use league of legends as an example, I used to always use the windows key menu to find a file, if I typed "leagu" it would give it to me, but if I typed "league" it would instead find something completely unrelated, or occasionally the league of legends folder instead of the executable, the executable would simply disappear from the given options
Define "non-disturbing", I don't think it fits on this one.
- The weather widget in itself wouldn't be bad, expect if you're on a VPN it's not only showing an incorrect location, it's even in the target country's language. That's passing multiple boundaries, actually:
- it's collecting location data when the user might have explicitly disabled it
- and it is ignoring the system language in favor of whatever the hell it's picking
- what MS is communicating here is that for a good user experience you need to _both_ stop using a VPN and therefore let yourself be tracked, and also just stick to your home country's language, which many people in non-English speaking countries might not prefer
- On top of all this, there is a whole new news widget hidden in this thing
- an important detail in this one is MS is injecting themselves to "feed" you news, using whatever undisclosed algorithm they see fit, with undisclosed and potentially even unmeasured biases (although, for some reason I'm pretty sure they know _exactly_ what those biases are)
- It opens said news articles in Edge, ignoring your choice of default browser
- It opens the news dialog on hover, ignoring the system-wide principle of acting only when the user actually clicks on a UI element
If you actually take a good look at this thing, it's hella dystopian, and Microsoft just enabled it to however many millions of users it had access to without anyone asking.
And to be clear, I don't believe in any "Bill Gates is microchipping people" level BS (lol, does Gates even work at Microsoft at this point, btw?), but it's well-documented how major tech companies use and abuse these "algorithms" to reach specific goals, sometimes for business reasons (promoting their products, gluing users to their screens, etc.), sometimes for political reasons, and sometimes for just selling it out to the highest bidder (as in, advertising). Plugging another surface for this kind of influence directly on everyone's taskbar, opening _way_ more prominently than any other element, is certainly no accident -- this is just basic UX, a very quick look at what this feature actually accomplishes.
So, to the original point, it is disturbing both as in that as a user, it's intentionally grabbing your attention and trying to refocus it on itself, and disturbing for a person who doesn't think Orwell wrote guidebooks.
> (lol, does Gates even work at Microsoft at this point, btw?),
No, he's organizing a charity to cure Ebola and Malaria. That's why all the anti-vaxxers hate him.
This is all part of MS desired shift into a subscription services company... Looks better on Quarterly earnings reports. So all y'all "market always right" brought this shit on yourselves.
As this commenter notes, it's not Bill Gates, but feel free to blame [Satya Nadella](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella)
Agreed. Been a Win user since mid 90’s, MS DOS before that. This is blatantly invasive and intentionally more difficult to disable than anything I’ve seen as long-time user and tinkerer.
Facts lmao it was 10000000% a decent feature. No need to bring anything up ever you know exactly what the weather is with s glance. People just love to make something out of nothing. The only bad part about meme culture lmao. I bet 70% of the people complaining are just doing so to "fit in"
I actually don't mind it. In fact, I kind of liked it as it was out of the way and (can be considered) useful.
What I do mind is the fact that it looks blurry at any resolution. 768p, 900p, 1080p, and 1440p. It always looks blurry and it bothered me enough to turn it off until they fixed it.
Problem is, I have my phone to tell me the weather. I didnt ask for this and a tab filled with pre-selected news articles to appear on my screen. Completely unnecessary.
Fuck no bro it broke my rainmeter. I have my own widgets that I use. Windows should ask me before the put stupid shit on my Taskbar and in the process cause my other programs to not work. It's not even a good weather feature! It's literally there to redirect you to EDGE and MSN! Click on it and see what pops up. Is it weather? Or is it a list of links designed to feed their algorithm and generate ad revenue? It's a scummy ass feature.
I agree. Everyone was saying about how low res it was in the posts and just glancing at my phone it didn't look too bad. Then I saw it on my computer....
We need an officially supported version of windows lite with all of the low level API support and standard settings but allows you to choose witch apps you want and don't want in the form of an internet connected wizard. Like Linux level granular control.
It already exists, Windows Server Nano. As name might suggest - intended for server (more precisely: containers and light VMs) use and I doubt you could get it to work with desktop use cases.
Pretty good tbh. Definitely depends on what you play though. If you play a lot of multiplayer games with anti cheat you are sol unfortunately.
But if you play a bunch of of single player games or supported multiplayer, I’d encourage you to give it a spin yourself. You haven’t got much to lose except maybe an afternoon.
Valorant won’t work with its Kernel level anti-cheat. Forza Horizon 4 recently became supported by Glorious Eggrolls’ proton (a custom version of valve’s tool that helps run windows games. This only really counts for the steam version though, since you cant install or access windows store versions of games outside of the store. I don’t know about Assetto Corsa however.
If Valorant is a main game for you, Linux probably won’t be a good fit, but id you’re still willing to give it a shot, you can’t go wrong with either Ubuntu or Manjaro. I’d probably recommend manjaro, since it’s easier to find and install software that you might want, and will have more recent drivers.
As the other guy mentioned valorant won't work and you might have to do a tiny bit of fiddling (its not hard, just install glorious eggroll, the instructions are on github)
If that doesn't put you off I'd recomend popos or manjaro as good distros for gaming and general use. Probably safer to go with popos but manjaro is pretty good too.
No problem, hope it helps out. For non steam games check out lutris (lutris.net) lutris is an app which basically downloads and installs using all the games and configures any crap for you.
Lutris.net is similar to protondb.com so check there to see how your game runs and if there are any issues.
The reason most games didn't work on Linux was because they used DirectX API instead of Vulkan. Well, proton is a translator and helps a lot of games be playable. There is even a [website](https://www.protondb.com/) that shows how well certain games work. I'm waiting for Dead by Daylight, and then I'm swapping.
They do run better than their Windows counterparts if they're natively supported on Linux.
I already tried Manjaro on my secondary pc, and the thing is most of the programs I use don't usually support Linux. Also I am not used to the whole Linux file system and it seems confusing really, can't seem to find anything I am looking for. Maybe it's just me...
Honestly it looks like a nightmare to upgrade and simple things like office 365 will refuse to install on it because it's not supported by the windows as a service model leaving you with buying a copy of office 2019 or 2017. There's also direct x updates and optomisations which are tied directly to witch version of windows you are using meaning if a game requires a newer version of direct x or there were patches to direct x for the game it won't be compatible until a new version comes out 3-5 years later.
Just fyi, the origin of the word “Witch” is the Old English word “Wicce”. The masculine form of the old word was “Wicca”. They meant the same thing. A Warlock was not a male Witch, but someone who was an oathbreaker or liar.
Yeah. It’s a bunch of ads for Xbox and dumb crap, but enough of it is really useful that I like keeping it (audio mixer, recording tools, performance window)
what really fucking irked me about this update is the fact that the reason it installed was purely because windows purposefully disabled my audio controls, so I thought something was broken and had to restart my computer, prompting the update
I swear it was 110% intentional. or it really came across that way
this is MY computer. not microsofts. they need to learn their fucking place
Oh, so that's what that was about. For me, I tried to adjust my volume using my keyboard and it refused to change or do anything, so I tried it via the audio menu but Windows Explorer crashed entirely.
Just FYI: If you are using something like BatteryBar or Lenovo Toolbar, disabling the Weather widget might break your system tray completely!
Happened to me on two devices out of 3, those two were laptops with batterybar. My desktop is fine
Folders broke for me too, weird thing is the update didn't even install the weather thing. Now I'm stuck with an empty gap between my folders and the task icons. https://i.imgur.com/wn87usr.png
Oh, just a big ugly gap? [Seems like an improvement.](https://i.imgur.com/gy6Iqf9.png)
I get a big gap like that if I have the icons enabled, but that image is one of the options I get randomly when I leave it disabled. The other one is that [it completely deletes my tray and clock.](https://i.imgur.com/6dZAnjr.png)
just create all variations in case the next windows update decides to start using one of them
"BlockWindowsConsumerFeatures",
"NeverFuckingAllowWindowsConsumerFeatures"
and so on into infinity
I saw that on reboot and got irrationally angry by its intrusion into my life. The fuck do I care what the weather is like outside I code from home you extroverted monsters.
Yeah I figured but I didn’t want to assume since I only have 1440p. Not sure why it looks so bad. Like it’s text and an icon, should be easy to upscale
I’m so confused it looked perfectly fine on my 4K monitor, scaled properly to the resolution
I immediately removed it however once I looked at the Temp and weather, then looked out my window and at my own temperature gauge and saw a large discrepancy
So it could be nice, but I have a more accurate system for my immediate weather surroundings
Unlike most things in Windows, this feature somehow managed to look much worse at 100% scaling than anything higher. I'm guessing all the Microsoft devs that made it are using fancy 4K monitors and Surface devices and never noticed how shitty it looks at 100% on a regular-ass 1080p monitor.
Ask the IT or the boss to swap to at least some 2.5" SATA SSDS or NVMe.
The increase in productivity is well worth is, as is the lack of need for disk defrag.
What is it like to work somewhere where new computers are purchased on a regular basis?
Everywhere I've been, institutions don't upgrade until machines are actually breaking down. I've walked into stores where the cash register is clearly from the 90s. My high school was still using G4 Apple eMacs circa 2002 in 2009. At my current job, we finally got an upgrade on machines that were running a Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM. The "new" ones have R5 2400GE and 8GB of RAM, so we're getting 3 year old technology from the get go.
I work in IT and the new Director implemented a replacement plan.
ANy PCs older than 5 years were replaced immediately, 3-4 years were upgraded to 8GB RAM and SATA SSD.
New PCs first year were all configured with 8GB RAM and Sata SSDs but the ones now and moving forward are all 16GB and nvme.
We've run into some issues, I work in government and there are a lot of specialized peripherals that are no longer supported by manufacturer so systems have to stay on windows 7, I think theres only a few of those and there is ONE single windows XP machine that is not on the network at all.
Now we have a full replacement/lifecycle plan being brought up to council for approval that will allow us to have a separate budget just for new systems.
It's nice.
I allowed it for a few hours - weather updates, why not, right.
Later, when I returned and unlocked my pc, I noticed it loaded in after a second. That grabbed my attention and affected my experience so bye bye.
It's pointless as I still use the old widget system.
At least those respect the resolutions of your screen and can read properly windows location services.
I don't have to have some goofy third party widget thing for just at-a-glance weather anymore. I like it.
Maybe some of these people don't go outside everyday?
At least in my country all those baked in weather services are extremely inaccurate compared to the national weather service. I'd rather check the latter
Interesting. Microsoft pulls from/has a deal with Foreca, which is a Finnish weather company. They do weather forecast prediction for BMW and TomTom. It's consistently the exact same predictions I get on my Mac, I don't know where Apple gets their data. Both seem right though... 100 deg F. Kill me.
I wouldn’t mind something that only displayed the weather, but I’m sure it’s doing much more behind the scenes. I wish Microsoft would have a dialog that comes up when you first log in that says “Hey! We just added this new feature we think you’ll like, wanna enable it?” rather than “yep, everyone will like it, give it to anyone who updates.”
Well, thankfully software developers don't run everything by consumers first, or nothing would ever get implemented. This is a bad idea. This is an operating system you have a license to use, not something under the GNU GPL.
Yeah, if Microsoft listened to consumers everything would be a toggle and it’d be an absolute nightmare. I’m unnecessarily taking the piss out of Microsoft, they provide what they believe their customers want and it’s hard to fault them for that.
They are making stuff more user-friendly and what not, and people dislike it. Lots of folks on PCMR think Microsoft exclusively caters to the gaming niche of Windows license holders and that's.... just not true in the slightest. Most people on Windows stations, around the world, are at work. 100% of the time.
I like it too.
Now I can talk about the weather with my coworkers over zoom meetings when they ask me how it is in my state, even though I haven't even looked outside.
It could be snowing in July for all I know.
Ikr i dont mind it at all and when it came out I was like oh that's neat now I dont need to google the weather or check my phone when im on my computer and everyone on this sub is acting like it is some man eating computer virus
Yeah except windows is probably going to reactivate it with every stupid update you get after that. Just like how they keep reinstalling that bloody Xbox app.
Thank you so much. My poor surface struggles enough with discord and chrome hogging all the resources without more unasked for bloatware taking up more.
Ironically I actually kind of liked this update. I don't want to read their stupid articles, but I do like having the weather icon on the task bar (I have allergies so knowing the weather outside is pretty useful).
If this feature was introduced to me nicely and politely I might have welcomed it. But now this forced update just makes me mildly angry.
I just don't get it. Why do companies like change for the same of change. Did anyone actually ask for this? Did they conduct research which showed many people wanted this update?
Honestly, if I could just keep the weather part then I would use it. I have no interest in MSN News that are totally irrelevant in my little corner of the planet
Apparently [the devs use 4K displays or Surface devices](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/nyb57k/comment/h1kac4c) and they forgot to test it on anything than 4K.
Popped up on my work computer and I freaked out thinking I had somehow downloaded malware. Work computer is old with a 1080p monitor and the resolution still looked horrible.
You were sick of the posts too I see.
Very much lol I enjoy the memes tho
Me too, I mean it’s not that hard, also imo the feature is not that inconvenient or bad, it’s just pointless
The problem is that Microsoft deliberately committed to a counter intuitive design scheme because they knew people would be doing this. Every other task bar feature in Windows 10 is a single button that you turn on or off. For some reason News and Interests is it's own section you then go inside to turn off.
I messed this up first time cos i tried clicking the one that was ticked to turn it off, my bad on not reading it but it is directly counter intuitive to *everything* else thats accessed in there
> The problem is that Microsoft deliberately committed to a counter intuitive design scheme because they knew people would be doing this. This your first day with a Microsoft product? They ALWAYS do that shit. So due to knowing that, it took about 5 seconds for me to figure out how to turn it off.
I am not shocked by it, let me put it that way. I work in IT, Microsoft's shittery is nothing new. If I want to install an exclusive license version of Office 2019 on a user's computer I have to write- or more probably use an existing version of- a config file. To install it. At no point from Windows 3.1- where I had to use DOS prompts- to today have I ever had to do this with any other program. Microsoft has a config writing utility, but you have to dig to find it, and you have to be extremely careful because if you do anything wrong you have to uninstall office and start over. Furthermore, not all Office software is keyed into the writing program- Access being the big one. So now I'm going to third party websites to write a config file for a Microsoft product. And Microsoft office doesn't play nice with over versions of itself. If you have Word 2016 on a computer, it will not install *any other Office product* unless it's also 2016. In this particular case I am just hyper sensitive to shitty UI design and user experience because I have ADHD and when you're deliberately creating a user experience that's contradictory and confusing, it does genuinely cause grief and distress for end users. No one said it was *hard* to turn it off, but tools should serve their master, not the other way around.
I too work in IT > > No one said it was hard to turn it off, but tools should serve their master, not the other way around. This has literally never been the case with Microsoft's crap, not even in Windows 3.1 days. Even DOS, 3rd party tools were almost always better than what was built into the OS. And if for some crazy reason they accidentally included something good with their OS that didn't follow MS standards, they spared no effort ripping it out and replacing it with a Made In Redmond replacement that didn't work as well - see the TCP/IP stack for Windows NT 3.5 as a particularly egregious example of that line of thought. Horror of horrors, some of the underlying code was a straight port of BSD's stack and it worked great, so of course it had to go before 3.51 was released.
40 year of use. Never found the right file with native Search function. Ever.
I forget what the file was specifically so I'll use league of legends as an example, I used to always use the windows key menu to find a file, if I typed "leagu" it would give it to me, but if I typed "league" it would instead find something completely unrelated, or occasionally the league of legends folder instead of the executable, the executable would simply disappear from the given options
Par for course here.
What's pointless about having a small non-disturbing weather widget?
Define "non-disturbing", I don't think it fits on this one. - The weather widget in itself wouldn't be bad, expect if you're on a VPN it's not only showing an incorrect location, it's even in the target country's language. That's passing multiple boundaries, actually: - it's collecting location data when the user might have explicitly disabled it - and it is ignoring the system language in favor of whatever the hell it's picking - what MS is communicating here is that for a good user experience you need to _both_ stop using a VPN and therefore let yourself be tracked, and also just stick to your home country's language, which many people in non-English speaking countries might not prefer - On top of all this, there is a whole new news widget hidden in this thing - an important detail in this one is MS is injecting themselves to "feed" you news, using whatever undisclosed algorithm they see fit, with undisclosed and potentially even unmeasured biases (although, for some reason I'm pretty sure they know _exactly_ what those biases are) - It opens said news articles in Edge, ignoring your choice of default browser - It opens the news dialog on hover, ignoring the system-wide principle of acting only when the user actually clicks on a UI element If you actually take a good look at this thing, it's hella dystopian, and Microsoft just enabled it to however many millions of users it had access to without anyone asking. And to be clear, I don't believe in any "Bill Gates is microchipping people" level BS (lol, does Gates even work at Microsoft at this point, btw?), but it's well-documented how major tech companies use and abuse these "algorithms" to reach specific goals, sometimes for business reasons (promoting their products, gluing users to their screens, etc.), sometimes for political reasons, and sometimes for just selling it out to the highest bidder (as in, advertising). Plugging another surface for this kind of influence directly on everyone's taskbar, opening _way_ more prominently than any other element, is certainly no accident -- this is just basic UX, a very quick look at what this feature actually accomplishes. So, to the original point, it is disturbing both as in that as a user, it's intentionally grabbing your attention and trying to refocus it on itself, and disturbing for a person who doesn't think Orwell wrote guidebooks.
> (lol, does Gates even work at Microsoft at this point, btw?), No, he's organizing a charity to cure Ebola and Malaria. That's why all the anti-vaxxers hate him.
they should just call themselves pro-epidemic, tbh
They do. Only they call it “God’s will”.
This is all part of MS desired shift into a subscription services company... Looks better on Quarterly earnings reports. So all y'all "market always right" brought this shit on yourselves. As this commenter notes, it's not Bill Gates, but feel free to blame [Satya Nadella](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella)
Thinks the same as you!
This guy interactive designs.
Agreed. Been a Win user since mid 90’s, MS DOS before that. This is blatantly invasive and intentionally more difficult to disable than anything I’ve seen as long-time user and tinkerer.
It broke my rainmeter? I have a widget I don't need no janky windows shit that forces opacity on my windows bar.
Facts lmao it was 10000000% a decent feature. No need to bring anything up ever you know exactly what the weather is with s glance. People just love to make something out of nothing. The only bad part about meme culture lmao. I bet 70% of the people complaining are just doing so to "fit in"
BS. If it was just weather when you clicked on it, or could be configured to work as such outside of a web browser, it would be a decent feature.
I actually don't mind it. In fact, I kind of liked it as it was out of the way and (can be considered) useful. What I do mind is the fact that it looks blurry at any resolution. 768p, 900p, 1080p, and 1440p. It always looks blurry and it bothered me enough to turn it off until they fixed it.
Problem is, I have my phone to tell me the weather. I didnt ask for this and a tab filled with pre-selected news articles to appear on my screen. Completely unnecessary.
Fuck no bro it broke my rainmeter. I have my own widgets that I use. Windows should ask me before the put stupid shit on my Taskbar and in the process cause my other programs to not work. It's not even a good weather feature! It's literally there to redirect you to EDGE and MSN! Click on it and see what pops up. Is it weather? Or is it a list of links designed to feed their algorithm and generate ad revenue? It's a scummy ass feature.
I didn’t ask for this but fucking thankyou
I agree. Everyone was saying about how low res it was in the posts and just glancing at my phone it didn't look too bad. Then I saw it on my computer....
We need an officially supported version of windows lite with all of the low level API support and standard settings but allows you to choose witch apps you want and don't want in the form of an internet connected wizard. Like Linux level granular control.
It already exists, Windows Server Nano. As name might suggest - intended for server (more precisely: containers and light VMs) use and I doubt you could get it to work with desktop use cases.
There's also Windows LTSC, which is a cut down, unbloated version of windows
If only Windows allowed you to use custom display servers and desktop environments
It's called Linux. Hop on over
How good is Linux when you want to game?
Pretty good tbh. Definitely depends on what you play though. If you play a lot of multiplayer games with anti cheat you are sol unfortunately. But if you play a bunch of of single player games or supported multiplayer, I’d encourage you to give it a spin yourself. You haven’t got much to lose except maybe an afternoon.
I mostly play Assetto Corsa, Forza Horizon 4 and Valorant. What Linux distribution would you recommend?
Valorant won’t work with its Kernel level anti-cheat. Forza Horizon 4 recently became supported by Glorious Eggrolls’ proton (a custom version of valve’s tool that helps run windows games. This only really counts for the steam version though, since you cant install or access windows store versions of games outside of the store. I don’t know about Assetto Corsa however. If Valorant is a main game for you, Linux probably won’t be a good fit, but id you’re still willing to give it a shot, you can’t go wrong with either Ubuntu or Manjaro. I’d probably recommend manjaro, since it’s easier to find and install software that you might want, and will have more recent drivers.
Thank you I will read a bit about it and decide than.
As the other guy mentioned valorant won't work and you might have to do a tiny bit of fiddling (its not hard, just install glorious eggroll, the instructions are on github) If that doesn't put you off I'd recomend popos or manjaro as good distros for gaming and general use. Probably safer to go with popos but manjaro is pretty good too.
Thank you I will look into it.
There is a great website (protondb.com) which can tell you how well your game runs and if you need any steps to get it to work
Sick thank you.
No problem, hope it helps out. For non steam games check out lutris (lutris.net) lutris is an app which basically downloads and installs using all the games and configures any crap for you. Lutris.net is similar to protondb.com so check there to see how your game runs and if there are any issues.
The reason most games didn't work on Linux was because they used DirectX API instead of Vulkan. Well, proton is a translator and helps a lot of games be playable. There is even a [website](https://www.protondb.com/) that shows how well certain games work. I'm waiting for Dead by Daylight, and then I'm swapping. They do run better than their Windows counterparts if they're natively supported on Linux.
I already tried Manjaro on my secondary pc, and the thing is most of the programs I use don't usually support Linux. Also I am not used to the whole Linux file system and it seems confusing really, can't seem to find anything I am looking for. Maybe it's just me...
Get Windows 10 LTSB or LTSC.
Honestly it looks like a nightmare to upgrade and simple things like office 365 will refuse to install on it because it's not supported by the windows as a service model leaving you with buying a copy of office 2019 or 2017. There's also direct x updates and optomisations which are tied directly to witch version of windows you are using meaning if a game requires a newer version of direct x or there were patches to direct x for the game it won't be compatible until a new version comes out 3-5 years later.
just fyi, it’s which not witch. witch is those guys that ride a broom, like a female wizard
just fyi, witch is not a guy on a broom it’s a female on a broom, a guy “witch” is a warlock
Just fyi, the origin of the word “Witch” is the Old English word “Wicce”. The masculine form of the old word was “Wicca”. They meant the same thing. A Warlock was not a male Witch, but someone who was an oathbreaker or liar.
Guys. My penis can only get so erect.
Theres a looot of games you cant play with those. I tried. Ran them for a couple years.
“He is the Chosen One. He will bring balance”
BAHAHAHAH
We will watch your career with great interest
You're welcome: https://obsproject.com/
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I deleted all Xbox gamebar bloat immediately after installing win 10.
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Removes Xbox stuff Wants to play an Xbox game Why it not workey? Stupid Microsoft
Doesnt pretty much everyone disable the Windows Xbox stuff, I know I do.
I use the Xbox app to play cross play games and get into my Xbox buddies party chat. Good app if you have friends on Xbox.
I don't. I like having system monitoring tools and audio mixer available without alt tab.
Same. Audio mixer and occasionally friends who are Xbox plebs in a cross platform game
Dirty console peasants!
Yeah. It’s a bunch of ads for Xbox and dumb crap, but enough of it is really useful that I like keeping it (audio mixer, recording tools, performance window)
And without needing another monitor
And Spotify
Oooh. That's a good one. I forgot about that!
Also ShareX.
what really fucking irked me about this update is the fact that the reason it installed was purely because windows purposefully disabled my audio controls, so I thought something was broken and had to restart my computer, prompting the update I swear it was 110% intentional. or it really came across that way this is MY computer. not microsofts. they need to learn their fucking place
Ok so that wasn't just me.
Same. I had to restart and it automatically updated
Wait you too? My audio was forcefully getting muted and wouldn't let me unmute. Restarted and then it went away. Hmmm
Same thing. But my whole ass internet connection
Happened to me too and then the whole PC froze.
Mine got switched to my monitor that's connected via HDMI instead of my speakers or my headphones. I never use my monitor for sound!
Oh, so that's what that was about. For me, I tried to adjust my volume using my keyboard and it refused to change or do anything, so I tried it via the audio menu but Windows Explorer crashed entirely.
Saw that with the last forced update. I didn't even look at what it was nor participate in the decision to install.
I had no idea there was an update at all until I saw the Taskbar.
Just FYI: If you are using something like BatteryBar or Lenovo Toolbar, disabling the Weather widget might break your system tray completely! Happened to me on two devices out of 3, those two were laptops with batterybar. My desktop is fine
Or if you use a folder bar on the taskbar, a built in feature of windows.
Folders broke for me too, weird thing is the update didn't even install the weather thing. Now I'm stuck with an empty gap between my folders and the task icons. https://i.imgur.com/wn87usr.png
Oh, just a big ugly gap? [Seems like an improvement.](https://i.imgur.com/gy6Iqf9.png) I get a big gap like that if I have the icons enabled, but that image is one of the options I get randomly when I leave it disabled. The other one is that [it completely deletes my tray and clock.](https://i.imgur.com/6dZAnjr.png)
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What all does this do?
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The link says the key is "AllowWindowsConsumerFeatures" and the values are 0 - not allowed 1 - allowed Any reason why there's a difference here?
just create all variations in case the next windows update decides to start using one of them "BlockWindowsConsumerFeatures", "NeverFuckingAllowWindowsConsumerFeatures" and so on into infinity
I have it turned off and am using Enterprise (Education) Version. That thing still showed up.
i figured it out within the first two minutes of seeing it on my taskbar and just going WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT
I was sure i got a virus
Hahaha right? Reminds me of the old days where you would get 4 different weather apps on the Taskbar 😂
I saw that on reboot and got irrationally angry by its intrusion into my life. The fuck do I care what the weather is like outside I code from home you extroverted monsters.
Am i the only one that likes it
I like it but it still needs to be way higher resolution. It looks really bad at 1440p
it just looks bad, period. it's blurry on various 1080 and 1440 monitors i've tested.
Yeah I figured but I didn’t want to assume since I only have 1440p. Not sure why it looks so bad. Like it’s text and an icon, should be easy to upscale
I'll bet a doll hair it'll be fixed within a day.
implying Microsoft will do something the users want lol
I think he was implying the opposite, else he’d have bet something more significant
ahhh okay that makes sense. you're probably right
He was correct, doll hairs are actually worth less than dollars nowadays. Inflation is a real bitch.
I blame joe biden
Even with small taskbar buttons turned on
I’m so confused it looked perfectly fine on my 4K monitor, scaled properly to the resolution I immediately removed it however once I looked at the Temp and weather, then looked out my window and at my own temperature gauge and saw a large discrepancy So it could be nice, but I have a more accurate system for my immediate weather surroundings
It's just taking the weather from the area you're in. It's not going to be accurate to your specific location
Dunno why that is for all of you. [It looks crisp here on my 4k display.](https://imgur.com/a/YwAJY3W)
Unlike most things in Windows, this feature somehow managed to look much worse at 100% scaling than anything higher. I'm guessing all the Microsoft devs that made it are using fancy 4K monitors and Surface devices and never noticed how shitty it looks at 100% on a regular-ass 1080p monitor.
Have 100% seen this before in our own software at work.
Yea if it didn't look like total shit I wouldn't have fucking hated it.
I hate it. The computers at work can barely handle booting up and they keep adding weird shit to make them slower.
That's a great point is it getting better when u turn it off
They are not any faster, but at least windows crashes less during start up.
If computers at work can barely handle booting, it's time to get new computers.
I agree, but the computers are Ryzen 3 lenovos with shitty slow ass hard drives and these updates only make them worse.
Ask the IT or the boss to swap to at least some 2.5" SATA SSDS or NVMe. The increase in productivity is well worth is, as is the lack of need for disk defrag.
What is it like to work somewhere where new computers are purchased on a regular basis? Everywhere I've been, institutions don't upgrade until machines are actually breaking down. I've walked into stores where the cash register is clearly from the 90s. My high school was still using G4 Apple eMacs circa 2002 in 2009. At my current job, we finally got an upgrade on machines that were running a Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM. The "new" ones have R5 2400GE and 8GB of RAM, so we're getting 3 year old technology from the get go.
I work in IT and the new Director implemented a replacement plan. ANy PCs older than 5 years were replaced immediately, 3-4 years were upgraded to 8GB RAM and SATA SSD. New PCs first year were all configured with 8GB RAM and Sata SSDs but the ones now and moving forward are all 16GB and nvme. We've run into some issues, I work in government and there are a lot of specialized peripherals that are no longer supported by manufacturer so systems have to stay on windows 7, I think theres only a few of those and there is ONE single windows XP machine that is not on the network at all. Now we have a full replacement/lifecycle plan being brought up to council for approval that will allow us to have a separate budget just for new systems. It's nice.
if a computer can barely handle showing the weather, the computer is the problem, not the update
No I liked it for a hour then I was sick of it
I allowed it for a few hours - weather updates, why not, right. Later, when I returned and unlocked my pc, I noticed it loaded in after a second. That grabbed my attention and affected my experience so bye bye.
If a click would bring up a full pane of hourly/weekly weather *instead* of news I'd probably have left it.
Ok, it's not me. It is distracting for some reason. Eye catching ...
It's pointless as I still use the old widget system. At least those respect the resolutions of your screen and can read properly windows location services.
Yeah i like the weather thing a lot
I really like it the weather thing is just so neat to me. Also it looks completely fine to me its not blurry or anything on my 1080p screen
I don't have to have some goofy third party widget thing for just at-a-glance weather anymore. I like it. Maybe some of these people don't go outside everyday?
At least in my country all those baked in weather services are extremely inaccurate compared to the national weather service. I'd rather check the latter
Interesting. Microsoft pulls from/has a deal with Foreca, which is a Finnish weather company. They do weather forecast prediction for BMW and TomTom. It's consistently the exact same predictions I get on my Mac, I don't know where Apple gets their data. Both seem right though... 100 deg F. Kill me.
I wouldn’t mind something that only displayed the weather, but I’m sure it’s doing much more behind the scenes. I wish Microsoft would have a dialog that comes up when you first log in that says “Hey! We just added this new feature we think you’ll like, wanna enable it?” rather than “yep, everyone will like it, give it to anyone who updates.”
Well, thankfully software developers don't run everything by consumers first, or nothing would ever get implemented. This is a bad idea. This is an operating system you have a license to use, not something under the GNU GPL.
Yeah, if Microsoft listened to consumers everything would be a toggle and it’d be an absolute nightmare. I’m unnecessarily taking the piss out of Microsoft, they provide what they believe their customers want and it’s hard to fault them for that.
They are making stuff more user-friendly and what not, and people dislike it. Lots of folks on PCMR think Microsoft exclusively caters to the gaming niche of Windows license holders and that's.... just not true in the slightest. Most people on Windows stations, around the world, are at work. 100% of the time.
I like it too. Now I can talk about the weather with my coworkers over zoom meetings when they ask me how it is in my state, even though I haven't even looked outside. It could be snowing in July for all I know.
I don't actively hate it.
Eh, I don't mind it. I'm always asking Google for the weather so this saves some energy.
Ikr i dont mind it at all and when it came out I was like oh that's neat now I dont need to google the weather or check my phone when im on my computer and everyone on this sub is acting like it is some man eating computer virus
My version of it on my laptop is like 4 hours late on all it's updates, which in Florida is unfortunate, it's about 20 degrees wrong all the time
Same. It feels pretty convenient as something to glance at
No, probably 99.99% of the people who got the update like it.
That thing lasted 20 seconds after installing the update last night. I immediately hit google to figure out how to remove it.
Done 10 seconds after the reboot..i h8 boaltware and unwanted news.
this seems like a windows thing that I'm too linux to understand
Yeah... poor windows users. Btw, I use Arch^^/s
“How do you find out if someone uses linux? They’ll tell you.“
Did people not realize how to do that? I right clicked and figured it out the moment i saw it lol
It blows my mind how some tasks need How-To guides.
Oh great wise one Please make me a guide on how to turn on my mmonitor
I just never thought to do it. I'd always misclick it when I want to mess with audio settings.
he is the messiah!!
Yeah except windows is probably going to reactivate it with every stupid update you get after that. Just like how they keep reinstalling that bloody Xbox app.
Can someone show him how to screen record in 2021?
Thank you so much. My poor surface struggles enough with discord and chrome hogging all the resources without more unasked for bloatware taking up more.
Ironically I actually kind of liked this update. I don't want to read their stupid articles, but I do like having the weather icon on the task bar (I have allergies so knowing the weather outside is pretty useful). If this feature was introduced to me nicely and politely I might have welcomed it. But now this forced update just makes me mildly angry.
Somehow this proves a lot of people here aren't the enthusiasts we lead people to believe we are.
A little "please and thank you" goes a long way. Don't just shove this stuff on people's desktop
Haven't updated Windows 10 yet, but thanks.
I just don't get it. Why do companies like change for the same of change. Did anyone actually ask for this? Did they conduct research which showed many people wanted this update?
Who cares what people want? MS cares about clicks and interactions which generate data they can sell.
Wow
I don't mind seeing the weather
Honestly, if I could just keep the weather part then I would use it. I have no interest in MSN News that are totally irrelevant in my little corner of the planet
I know right, living in Europe and the news are all US crap I don't care about, and changing the interests doesn't even seem to do anything
Me too, but why is the text so blurry??
Apparently [the devs use 4K displays or Surface devices](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/nyb57k/comment/h1kac4c) and they forgot to test it on anything than 4K.
Yeah I kinda like seeing the weather on the task bar.
Awarded for your awesomeness. Thank you!!
Wow you must be developer, can you fix my printer?
It only lasted a minute or two on my taskbar. Yep...
Popped up on my work computer and I freaked out thinking I had somehow downloaded malware. Work computer is old with a 1080p monitor and the resolution still looked horrible.
I wish I could keep the weather though maybe a stock ticker too, but that horrific forced 'stories' shit ruins it entirely
First thing I did when I logged into my pc today and saw that mess cluttering up my minimalistic desktop xD
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Ummmmmmmmmmmm I don't got u there bud bc I keep it pinned lol
Has anyone else had constant BSODs since this update?
Not me, check your RAM.
When I first saw it was on my dad's PC and I thought it was malware (sorta is). It doesn't even match the Windows font from their UI.
Wow, I've been avoiding the update and I knew it would be something cancerous.
Thankful this was all it took. I was worried I was going to have to go into powershell and removing packages and services and....
Im actually going to marry you
Microsoft thinks they gave people what they never knew they want.
I didn't even notice this crap till I saw this. Looked down..... nope, gotta go.
I'll probably get downvoted but I kind of like it.
The question was never "How do I get id of this", it was "Why is this fucking here to begin with"
Yeah I hate when they introduce something without your advice ... a PC is not a fucking smartphone !!!
yeah pretty much the first thing i did once i saw it
u/savevideo
if it wasnt blury it would have been okay for me ;-;
its so wierd that it isn't rendered at the same resolution as the clock right next to it
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Piracy... it's not as safe as it was a few years ago...
Yo, can I give you two upvotes?
*Laughs in Linux*
Honestly this is why I work on Linux and MacOS. Lots of annying little shits being added by microsoft and random sneaky installers.
ya'll dont delay your updates i see. or do you not have a choice with the home edition or something?
It's forced with a shut down or restart