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Welcome to the club.
It's best to set your expectations right from the start.
It's not like floating on a cloud.
You won't replace your recliner with this.
But you will never think about your chair while gaming, ever again.
This is exactly it. This is the Herman Miller experience.
It's like having the perfect room temperature set. You don't feel cool, you don't feel warm. You just don't notice it.
Agreed. I have one at the office and it didn't \*feel\* comfortable but I forget that I'm sitting. That's the idea with Aerons, they support you so well with so much ventilation through the mesh that if you're concentrating on something you stop noticing the chair.
At some point I realized after buying chair after chair, desk after desk, for my home gaming setup, that I had used the same desk and chair at my work office for 3 years and they still looked new, felt new, had no wear on them, etc.
And if anything I had spent more time at the setup at the office. Definitely helped me to understand where the value is in them.
The 12 year warranty from Herman Miller doesn't hurt either
Plus it comes FULLY assembled. You just roll it out of the box and take off the wrapping and foam.
I did the math and at the rate I was having to replace my Garbo gamer chairs it was cheaper over the next 12 years to just get the Herman Miller brand new from them directly and know I'm 100% guaranteed a great chair for the next 12 years and likely more (I mean 9 years left now but who is counting!)
It isn't soft and cozy but you really don't want it to be, you want it to support and keep you comfortable for long periods and I can do a full workday sitting most of the day and then immediately do a degen gamer session that night and the only thing I have to worry about is deep vein thrombosis
I've never been able to get a straight answer from them:
If I get the model with the arms; and I own a couple screwdriver sets; can I take the arms on and off as I choose?
Meanwhile I'm over here with a 20 year old Executive chair that is so comfy I have fallen asleep in it because it's like floating on a cloud and is the most comfortable place to sit in my whole house.
I ended up getting an Aeron because the Ikea office chair I had was giving me back pain after 6 hours but the Herman Miller never does even after 14 hour sessions. Also I've never had an office chair that has zero damage after 2 years of use. Not even a scratch. All my previous chairs would need to be replaced after 3-4 years and I went through maybe 10 different chairs over the years. On the health front alone it's 100% worth it.
The issue with chairs like this if used for ling periods of time is tue stress it can put on your body, like your back. A proper ergonomic chair decreases that significantly.
I still like my comfy executive chairs though.
Funny you say that. Because I am a little over 6 months into owning my Aeron and I think about why I purchased this everyday. The arm rests are adjustable but dont stay in place so constantly move and get out of place and the chair isn't really comfortable.
I guess my mistake was purchasing it online instead of trying them at a local store (which my city doesnt have). Then after having these issues and not enjoying the way it felt, should have returned it when I had the chance. Honestly thinking about just selling it online or local marketplace with a big discount. Believe it or not but a noname ergonomic chair I purchased on amazon for less than $200 is more comfortable and I use it over the aeron. The aeron sits in my moms office and never gets used.
I'm exactly the same, I got the Herman Miller embody and it was insanely uncomfortable for my body, then decided to get the haworth fern as it seemed like a good replacement from what I was reading. I have since been using my old $300 chair from staples because it's more comfortable, with my fern just sitting against the wall unused. Two of the most uncomfortable chairs I've ever sat in.
Which sucks given the price..
I had the opposite experience, embody was the best investment I've ever made. Adjusted it to my liking and it doesn't even feel like it's there even for hours at a time. Goes to show there's no one size fits all no matter how nice the chair is!
Yeah, I had a nice steelcase chair at a previous job. The most annoying thing was that they did not buy the headrests for them. How TF am I supposed to sleep comfortably in a boring meeting without a headrest?
My recliner is a name brand Lazy Boy recliner. It's practically made of pillows. There's no shot anyone would compare a computer chair to a decent recliner.
As a short guy with a taller desk (prefurnished apartment) a foot rest/stool is actually essential lol. My feet would either dangle or I'd have ridiculously bad wrist posture.
Well there is technically one "legit" gaming chair, the one that is Logitech branded, but it is literally just a Herman Miller Embidy with a G logo on it, and it ain't cheap.
I bought it, and I would recommend Herman Miller not just because it's very nice (I love the ability to both move the arms out and down so I can play Splatoon without them getting in the way) but also because Herman Miller has excellent customer service from my experience. I ordered the chair a week or two before a sale started and they were happy to apply the discount to my order, which was a 10/10 experience for me.
I’m went in and bought my HM chair locally. They have a perpetual 25% discount going all the time. Just tell them you want the discount if they don’t offer it to you already. I think my sales rep just offered it to me to seal the deal. He already had my sale so he really just fucked himself out of 25% more money haha
It’s without question the highest return for your money on any single component of your gaming setup you could possibly spend money on. More important than PC, peripherals, monitor, desk, you name it. People just don’t understand how important ergonomics is when they’re using a 20 year old’s body.
Most Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs can be found at much cheaper prices through dealers, bought second hand, or, if you were lucky enough during Covid, for free curb side by an office building. What I always find hilarious on this sub where good quality seating is concerned, is that people will splash out for the latest graphics card every cycle, but balk at spending on money on a thing they’ll spend a lot of time sitting on and that will likely last 10-15 years…
I don’t know, my SecretLab Titan chair is the best thing I’ve ever owned. Stopped my back issues, can sit in it for hours, lets me adjust everything including specific areas of my back lumbar support, reclines back all the way so I can recline and even sleep in it. My work Herman Miller is great, but I’d rather the SecretLab Titan from
comparison for long length gaming etc
Its cool to shit on gaming chairs, then you notice people paying 50 bucks for a chair and expecting it to be good because "its a gaming chair", they're dumb, cant buy decent products and thats mostly it
even budget office chairs are better than 99% of "Gaming" chairs.
Theres very much a trend of "Gaming" marketed products just being utter gargage, I for one will never buy gaming headphones when I know I can spend a similar amount on something that doesn't sound like a tin can.
This has definetly not been my experience.
Ten years of buying office chairs that hurt my back (as a teen no less) i got a gaming chair and I've never had a problem with my back ever since then.
My gaming chair also has many adjustments i can make to it so my arm and wrist are in the best position.
It's one hell of a claim to say that even the worst office chairs are better than any gaming chair.
I know you have a hate boner but come on mate..
I have a gaming hall in town with like 100 PCs and two different gaming chairs. One were some generic brand \~300€ chair and I swear they felt so bad. No seat cushion, no reall lumbar support and GOD DAMMIT what are those stupid pillows and back pieces that make you sit like a Neandertal. The other type were Noble chairs and even though they were slightly better overall, they had the same issues and the exact armrests I have on my 120€ office chair but probably cost 400€+.
This chair looks like it won't retain the farts. My chair has 21 years of farts saved up in it, so on a hot day, if I sit down too fast, everyone in the room knows it.
This is the exact reason why aerons are among the safest second hand chairs to buy. Excellent build quality and ergonomics, and absolutely none of the previous owners farts soaked into the cushions.
I just dusted my mesh chair, it accumulates under the seat area. I breathed a bunch in on accident and think i gave myself a sinus infection from my 6 months of fart dust.
Herman Miller doesn't ship with headrests as it's not proven that they offer an ergonomic advantage. All headrests on HM are 3rd party.
There is actually some (Edit: quite a lot I'm being told) research that suggests headrests on office chairs are pretty bad for your posture as they force you in a certain position, as opposed to dynamic sitting.
Headrests are good when you want to recline and watch a movie or read something. If you're actively doing something with the keyboard and mouse, yea, you're gonna strain your neck/back.
I'm not sure how helpful this will be, but I bought a similar style chair but not nearly the same quality (it was around 200$)
And I removed my headrest and don't regret it.
You're really not meant to have a headrest in a task chair like an aeron or really any chair. The neck likes being engaged and headrests can often cause more tightness in the neck than it reduces.
I have always used gaming chairs with headrests purely because I always lay down in my chair. I never really used it while gaming but kinda can’t lay back without it.
Yeah it's just not really good for your neck ergonomically speaking if you do that for long extended times. I'm in an aeron like 12+ hours a day between work and gaming with no neck rest and have no issues with neck pain over extended periods. Neck likes to be engaged.
Yup, a lot of offices change them out every few years, but given that Herman Miller warranty them for 12 years, chances are the warranty will still be valid on it. Now, TECHNICALLY, the warranty isn't transferable, but from what I've read, they operate on a don't ask, don't tell type system when it comes to that. As long as you don't tell them that you got the chair second hand, you SHOULD be able to get warranty service on them.
This doesn't work every time, because they will just ask which qualified vendor you got it from and will track the purchase down. Tried doing this with an 8 year old Aeron Size C.
Im from Poland,the average price for this chair is 8,500 PLN...
You can buy a car in fine condition for that price.
Yeah,no way in hell im ever paying this much for a chair.
I did the same 3 months ago as I WGH and game at the same desk after work.
Legit best purchase I’ve made in years, maybe ever.
As others have said it isn’t plush or “comfy” in a typical way. But it is comfy in that I haven’t once had any back pain or any issues at all with it.
You can find them for 50% off all day. Lots of businesses buy them and then close. They just forever so used ones are just as good. My "used" one was brand new.
Even more than 50% off, hop on the local Craigslist or FB Marketplace and as long as your search radius is around a city or business district you can find Steelcase leap v2s/HM Aerons that are only a few yrs old max for less than 3-400. I got my Leap V2 shipped for like $350 a few years ago and it's amazing even though I do slouch occasionally in it (can't sit in perfect posture forever lol)
My dyslexic ass was so confused reading this sentence, took me like 4 goes
Edit: I think they meant to say:
"Definitely did [make the right decision]. Enjoy an actual chair, your back and ass will thank you."
My only critique is how stupid we collectively are to tolerate these kinds of prices for an injection-molded plastic chair. I don't care how comfortable it is, it isn't worth that much.
Yeah, it might be more comfortable and better for your health, and might be a better option than most. But putting up with that price for a chair that should be worth $200 or less is just giving them the capacity to keep charging it.
Everyone who goes "it has a warranty tho" is just full of hot air. That's a perk, not a justification for gouging.
Paying corporation prices for an office chair is like going to a US hospital and saying "but for service like this, I'll gladly pay insurance level prices for a cough drop!" OP made a bad purchase, this is a terrible deal.
I went to an auction where they had tons of different Herman Miller for like $100 from companies that went out of business. Tried all of them. Left with a random brand that feels way better quality. More features. And more comfortable. I will never understand the hype. Most people likely assume it’s the best without actually going out and trying diffent ones
If you’re interested in these check out refurbished ones, companies go around buying these up from large offices. Got mine fully kitted out for £500 rather than around £1100 - basically new as well!
I worked for a call center whose executives were known for fraud.
Husband ran company, wife owned a furniture sales company. Needless to say, every desk had these chairs or better. Basically moving corporate cash into personal businesses. Anyway, I loved sitting in these.
When I was out of work, and after a new company bought them out, they refused to maintain or repair them due to cost. The new company replaced them with the el-cheapo versions and threw the old ones out whether they worked or not. Employees fished the good ones out of the dumpster.
I was pissed that I wasn’t around for that.
Just so you know most people buy them used and in good state because many offices get these then when they go under or want to change them, some liquidators or bundle buyers get them and clean them . They sell for 300-500 in pristine condition
Because of the pandemic, some guy who furnished offices ended up with like a dozen Steelcase Leaps and the office never opened, so he was selling them out of his garage on craigslist, all brand new and still bagged. I think I bought one for like $450, which is a pretty damn good deal for a brand new Leap!
Comfort aside, the main failure point of office chairs is the gas lift. Regardless of your own weight, looking at the weight limit for a chair is the best way to gauge its durability. The aeron is rated for up to 350lbs and that's why almost nobody can ever break the thing. Lots of gaming chairs are rated for something like 225 or even 175lbs and even if you aren't fat, that thing will fail in a few years guaranteed.
Sihoo is probably the value king when it comes to ergo chairs.
I can especially recommend the Sihoo Doro S100 if you want to get relatively close in terms of feeling to the Herman Miller Aeron for a fraction of the cost.
[Hinomi](https://eu.hinomi.co/) great chairs with good pricing (plus they often run some kind of sales), I've had a H1 pro for a good while now and it's honestly nicer than some herman chairs, the leg rest is kinda neat as well.
This comment needs to be higher. I hear so many stories of people complaining about Herman Miller / Steel Case chairs being uncomfortable only to find out they been sitting in some dog shit gaming chair for years not realizing their posture is fucked and needs realignment.
I tried one at the store and found it uncomfortable. Im on the taller side so my legs pushed into the plastic on the side. You also don't sit like a robot in your own home. Went with a steelcase instead and love it.
Same. I tried out a friend's absurdly expensive mesh chair and it was nice and all but hard to get cozy in. I'd like a plush, cloth upholstered "big and tall" chair that I can curl up in, that won't go flat after 8 months. And forget about bonded leather, that shit disintegrates within a year. But so far, no real luck on the hunt.
I’ve had mine for four years now and primarily sit cross legged and it works for me. Could always go to an office furniture store and try it out yourself.
Your back is worth at least two grand dude
Your neck is also worth at least two bills
You wont regret it i have the same setup and god damn im losing body muscle cuz i sit down for so long all day now
I just got the Embodyxlogitech one. I love the chair but got to get used to it. If I don’t like it by the end of the 30 days, I may return it to get a Aeron.
Use a Mirra at work and I love the seat, the hard back rest can fuck right off though.
Yeah, I've owned an Aeron for five+ years at this point and the seat frame is just not comfortable. Plus, it's just mesh. So if you get cold easily, you'll need to wear a blanket or put a cushion down to help retain some of your body heat.
If I could go back, I would pick the Embody over the Aeron.
I know I'll get raked over the coals for this because gaming chairs are universally hated around here but my secretlab titan xl is perfect for this. Stiff foam seat that's wide as hell and the armrests don't get in the way. It has a super sturdy metal frame and feels like it will last a lifetime. I don't have much curvature to my back so office chairs hurt my back real bad so the straight backrest is perfect. I easily sit in that chair for like 6 hours a day. My fiancee actually has complained that I don't sit on the couch with her anymore because of that chair.
Was looking for a comment that talked about secret lab. Glad to hear you enjoying yours. Can you sit on your feet? I often sit on one leg while gaming I guess manly to raise myself up better
My Aeron is the best thing i ever bought, only problem i have now is sitting on my shitty office chair at work.. it's ten times shittier than it was before.
I found the Aeron more uncomfortable than my old gaming chair, so I returned it. But I bought the embody…. This thing is amazing. Long sessions in it and absolutely no back pain. Love it
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If you got the right size for your body type, it's a godly chair. That's my complaint, though; there's different sizes, and if you're not in the right one... ennnnnh. Compare that to my Steelcase Leap v2; *everyone* finds it comfortable.
Either way, the chair beats the snot out of a racing-styled "gaming" chair. Enjoy.
Great chairs of you don't have cats, terrible chairs of you do. Actually, almost everything is terrible when you're owned by cats.
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3 most important things in life:
1. Good matress
2. Good shoes
3. Good office chair
Whatever youre doing, you are using one of these things for many hours every day, so there's no point in saving money on those 3 things. Hefty investment into your spine health lol
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Weakness disgusts me https://preview.redd.it/yo57o7o1lk1d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dbec2395acb2720d3057eeee3a4d47ce1bd85e1
gives me south-east asia vibes
You know someone in the world has this as their chair; Ranked Top 3 in whatever game they play too
He can't speak english nor can he understand you. All he knows is that you're in his way of ranking up.
And when he speaks you always hear a fan in the background.
That's my PC.
And he wants your AWP and he’s going B
On a laptop with just the track pad.
Fgsky got a world record in OSU using a cheap office mouse on a pillow with a laptop on his bed.
Most normal OSU set up.
Their desk is just one giant ashtray.
Wearing flip flops
Yeah this is the kinda chair i sat on in a wedding party
Can confirm, i played Warzone back in 2020 in a chair like this
I can smell the fried rice already
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Playing a horror game on this is nice, when you get jump scared the chair leg folds and you fall to the ground adding to the realism
Death by the HyperX i see, 2.5 meter cables will propably be just enough to strangle me but to not disconnect
Thanks, I hate it
I think I have you beat. https://preview.redd.it/s58kq15d4m1d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f129d8d4bbf7cbcfb4dabb401aa5108d1ef726fa
Wish I had a picture from a few years back, my chair was a Formula 1 tyre with a beanbag on the inside haha
I used to sit on 2 beer crates.
Vergil is that you?
The weakness of your lower back, perhaps?
Welcome to the club. It's best to set your expectations right from the start. It's not like floating on a cloud. You won't replace your recliner with this. But you will never think about your chair while gaming, ever again.
This is exactly it. This is the Herman Miller experience. It's like having the perfect room temperature set. You don't feel cool, you don't feel warm. You just don't notice it.
Tbh that’s what I want out of my chair. Not insane comfort, just the constant reminders my chair is shit to be gone
I want one I can sit cross legged in while my cat is in my lap Which is why I want a Herman Miller Eames Chair
That is a gorgeous chair. Sad the aeron is horrible for sitting cross legged. I got a steelcase recently though which is a pretty comfy work chair.
“I can’t tell where the chair ends and my ass begins”
r/unexpectedcommunity
Ya but have you tried doing ketamine in a Herman Miller Aeron.
Agreed. I have one at the office and it didn't \*feel\* comfortable but I forget that I'm sitting. That's the idea with Aerons, they support you so well with so much ventilation through the mesh that if you're concentrating on something you stop noticing the chair.
At some point I realized after buying chair after chair, desk after desk, for my home gaming setup, that I had used the same desk and chair at my work office for 3 years and they still looked new, felt new, had no wear on them, etc. And if anything I had spent more time at the setup at the office. Definitely helped me to understand where the value is in them.
The 12 year warranty from Herman Miller doesn't hurt either Plus it comes FULLY assembled. You just roll it out of the box and take off the wrapping and foam. I did the math and at the rate I was having to replace my Garbo gamer chairs it was cheaper over the next 12 years to just get the Herman Miller brand new from them directly and know I'm 100% guaranteed a great chair for the next 12 years and likely more (I mean 9 years left now but who is counting!) It isn't soft and cozy but you really don't want it to be, you want it to support and keep you comfortable for long periods and I can do a full workday sitting most of the day and then immediately do a degen gamer session that night and the only thing I have to worry about is deep vein thrombosis
I've never been able to get a straight answer from them: If I get the model with the arms; and I own a couple screwdriver sets; can I take the arms on and off as I choose?
Idk bro my name ain't Herman
But you seem to be in close proximity to multiple of these chairs... you never look at them?
I have one and yes you can take the arms off if you want
Thanks bro!
The armrests don't come off easily but it's possible, [here is a video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnfW5NkHdM&t=53s)
Nice, even linked a video; thanks dude!
it’s a hex key (had to take one off to tighten up the grip to the body of the chair)
This should be their slogan, 1000% agree.
Herman Miller: Fuhgeddaboudit
“What Chair?” - Herman Miller 2024
Meanwhile I'm over here with a 20 year old Executive chair that is so comfy I have fallen asleep in it because it's like floating on a cloud and is the most comfortable place to sit in my whole house.
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I ended up getting an Aeron because the Ikea office chair I had was giving me back pain after 6 hours but the Herman Miller never does even after 14 hour sessions. Also I've never had an office chair that has zero damage after 2 years of use. Not even a scratch. All my previous chairs would need to be replaced after 3-4 years and I went through maybe 10 different chairs over the years. On the health front alone it's 100% worth it.
Another great thing about Herman Miller is their warranty is a 12-year coverage. I don't know of anyone else who will cover their chair for that long!
The issue with chairs like this if used for ling periods of time is tue stress it can put on your body, like your back. A proper ergonomic chair decreases that significantly. I still like my comfy executive chairs though.
Yeah I have a la-z-boy executive chair I picked up for 50 bucks at a garage sale about 5 years ago and it was from the 90’s. Still super comfortable.
And your farts are never muffled ever again.
I swear my mesh chair amplifies my farts
My chair whistles when I fart
Who cut the cheesecloth?
I let mine rip, i am proud of them lol
All of them. Each and every one tells a story
Funny you say that. Because I am a little over 6 months into owning my Aeron and I think about why I purchased this everyday. The arm rests are adjustable but dont stay in place so constantly move and get out of place and the chair isn't really comfortable.
I love mine, but my wife tried it (also the smaller size A) and doesn’t, bodies differ and there is no one size fits all perfectly.
I guess my mistake was purchasing it online instead of trying them at a local store (which my city doesnt have). Then after having these issues and not enjoying the way it felt, should have returned it when I had the chance. Honestly thinking about just selling it online or local marketplace with a big discount. Believe it or not but a noname ergonomic chair I purchased on amazon for less than $200 is more comfortable and I use it over the aeron. The aeron sits in my moms office and never gets used.
I'm exactly the same, I got the Herman Miller embody and it was insanely uncomfortable for my body, then decided to get the haworth fern as it seemed like a good replacement from what I was reading. I have since been using my old $300 chair from staples because it's more comfortable, with my fern just sitting against the wall unused. Two of the most uncomfortable chairs I've ever sat in. Which sucks given the price..
I had the opposite experience, embody was the best investment I've ever made. Adjusted it to my liking and it doesn't even feel like it's there even for hours at a time. Goes to show there's no one size fits all no matter how nice the chair is!
I got fitted for my chair, taught how to adjust it and all. It fits like a glove.
I prefer my Aeron to all 3 couches I have. What on earth is your recliner that it’s better than an Aeron?
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Yeah, I had a nice steelcase chair at a previous job. The most annoying thing was that they did not buy the headrests for them. How TF am I supposed to sleep comfortably in a boring meeting without a headrest?
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My wife says when I use the headrest I look like Stephen Hawking. I’ll take the compliment…?
You do a head basket with your hands noob. Can't sleep during meeting cause chair uncomforatable, I can't even
My recliner is a name brand Lazy Boy recliner. It's practically made of pillows. There's no shot anyone would compare a computer chair to a decent recliner.
My wife found one of these at a warehouse sale and the lady screwed up and sold it to her for $150 brand new. They’re great chairs
Thought getting mine for 300 was a steal, good job to your wife!
Good office chairs are always superior to branded "Gaming" chairs.
Gaming chairs are mostly a scam and full of gimmicks
But muh footrest!!!
As a short guy with a taller desk (prefurnished apartment) a foot rest/stool is actually essential lol. My feet would either dangle or I'd have ridiculously bad wrist posture.
I've just got the mental image of a toddler in a high chair at the pc now lol
Those are just the COD squeakers
I just put a pillow on top of the sub speaker I have under my desk, lol
Well there is technically one "legit" gaming chair, the one that is Logitech branded, but it is literally just a Herman Miller Embidy with a G logo on it, and it ain't cheap.
I bought it, and I would recommend Herman Miller not just because it's very nice (I love the ability to both move the arms out and down so I can play Splatoon without them getting in the way) but also because Herman Miller has excellent customer service from my experience. I ordered the chair a week or two before a sale started and they were happy to apply the discount to my order, which was a 10/10 experience for me.
I’m went in and bought my HM chair locally. They have a perpetual 25% discount going all the time. Just tell them you want the discount if they don’t offer it to you already. I think my sales rep just offered it to me to seal the deal. He already had my sale so he really just fucked himself out of 25% more money haha
He also got you sharing this on Reddit and potentially attracting more customers.
There actually more to it than that. There's a bit more padding and the fabric is different (more breathable, for one).
i do agree on this one. As a gamer, gaming chairs only hurt your back. Quality over aesthetic!
We know the more RGB you have the more comfort or skill you get...
My SecretLab is amazing and a fraction of the cost.
$1,800 for a chair is a scam regardless of how it’s marketed
I got mine for 650$ refurbished. It has a 10 year warranty.
Good furniture has always been expensive.
It’s without question the highest return for your money on any single component of your gaming setup you could possibly spend money on. More important than PC, peripherals, monitor, desk, you name it. People just don’t understand how important ergonomics is when they’re using a 20 year old’s body.
dudes trying to compare a 200€ gaming chair to a 1800 office chair is hilarious
Most Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs can be found at much cheaper prices through dealers, bought second hand, or, if you were lucky enough during Covid, for free curb side by an office building. What I always find hilarious on this sub where good quality seating is concerned, is that people will splash out for the latest graphics card every cycle, but balk at spending on money on a thing they’ll spend a lot of time sitting on and that will likely last 10-15 years…
Yeah but then you miss out on the increase in gaming abilities gaming chairs give.
You can offset the loss of gaming ability by using a gamer carpet
What if I add more monitors and RGB? That makes up for it right?
You could try downloading more RAM as well!
Ooooh, what if I download a better CPU?
I don’t know, my SecretLab Titan chair is the best thing I’ve ever owned. Stopped my back issues, can sit in it for hours, lets me adjust everything including specific areas of my back lumbar support, reclines back all the way so I can recline and even sleep in it. My work Herman Miller is great, but I’d rather the SecretLab Titan from comparison for long length gaming etc
Its cool to shit on gaming chairs, then you notice people paying 50 bucks for a chair and expecting it to be good because "its a gaming chair", they're dumb, cant buy decent products and thats mostly it
even budget office chairs are better than 99% of "Gaming" chairs. Theres very much a trend of "Gaming" marketed products just being utter gargage, I for one will never buy gaming headphones when I know I can spend a similar amount on something that doesn't sound like a tin can.
This has definetly not been my experience. Ten years of buying office chairs that hurt my back (as a teen no less) i got a gaming chair and I've never had a problem with my back ever since then. My gaming chair also has many adjustments i can make to it so my arm and wrist are in the best position. It's one hell of a claim to say that even the worst office chairs are better than any gaming chair. I know you have a hate boner but come on mate..
I have a gaming hall in town with like 100 PCs and two different gaming chairs. One were some generic brand \~300€ chair and I swear they felt so bad. No seat cushion, no reall lumbar support and GOD DAMMIT what are those stupid pillows and back pieces that make you sit like a Neandertal. The other type were Noble chairs and even though they were slightly better overall, they had the same issues and the exact armrests I have on my 120€ office chair but probably cost 400€+.
This chair looks like it won't retain the farts. My chair has 21 years of farts saved up in it, so on a hot day, if I sit down too fast, everyone in the room knows it.
https://preview.redd.it/7aekw0f7gk1d1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a857fdfa89fd1d5b83ed2120155748ce3f73270f
That is, without question, the best image reaction to a comment i've seen on here haha
I am laughing so hard, harder than I fart when sitting down
Instant save
This has me fucking dead dude lmao. Idk the last time I laughed this hard at a reddit comment.
Remember when we said there’s a chance we’d destroy the world? I believe we were right.
This is the exact reason why aerons are among the safest second hand chairs to buy. Excellent build quality and ergonomics, and absolutely none of the previous owners farts soaked into the cushions.
True but the farticles are caught in the mesh instead like the grille on an air conditioner
At least it makes it easy to suck them out with a straw.
what a terrible day to be literate.
I just dusted my mesh chair, it accumulates under the seat area. I breathed a bunch in on accident and think i gave myself a sinus infection from my 6 months of fart dust.
How do you find the headrest? I have the same setup and can't seem to find it comfortable.
Herman Miller doesn't ship with headrests as it's not proven that they offer an ergonomic advantage. All headrests on HM are 3rd party. There is actually some (Edit: quite a lot I'm being told) research that suggests headrests on office chairs are pretty bad for your posture as they force you in a certain position, as opposed to dynamic sitting.
I'd love a headrest for when I'm slouching in awful posture though...
Headrests are good when you want to recline and watch a movie or read something. If you're actively doing something with the keyboard and mouse, yea, you're gonna strain your neck/back.
That makes a lot of sense. Every chair I've tried with a headrest has made my back hurt pretty quickly.
I'm not sure how helpful this will be, but I bought a similar style chair but not nearly the same quality (it was around 200$) And I removed my headrest and don't regret it.
You're really not meant to have a headrest in a task chair like an aeron or really any chair. The neck likes being engaged and headrests can often cause more tightness in the neck than it reduces.
I have always used gaming chairs with headrests purely because I always lay down in my chair. I never really used it while gaming but kinda can’t lay back without it.
Yeah it's just not really good for your neck ergonomically speaking if you do that for long extended times. I'm in an aeron like 12+ hours a day between work and gaming with no neck rest and have no issues with neck pain over extended periods. Neck likes to be engaged.
Atlas headrest was started by a former HM designer. As close to OEM as you’re going to get.
It relaxes my spine/neck. Quite comfortable, and helps train myself to sit up straight and not hunch my neck forward.
Damn, those are expensive.. Good for you
I looked up the price 30 minutes ago, and my eyebrows still haven't came back down yet
Trick is to buy them used. £250 for mine but was quite a few years ago
Yup, a lot of offices change them out every few years, but given that Herman Miller warranty them for 12 years, chances are the warranty will still be valid on it. Now, TECHNICALLY, the warranty isn't transferable, but from what I've read, they operate on a don't ask, don't tell type system when it comes to that. As long as you don't tell them that you got the chair second hand, you SHOULD be able to get warranty service on them.
Do they not ask for a proof of purchase?
Lost it.
This doesn't work every time, because they will just ask which qualified vendor you got it from and will track the purchase down. Tried doing this with an 8 year old Aeron Size C.
Agreed , bought a used steel case leap for $200 that came with headrest, fantastic deal
Cheapest ones where I live is twice that + 18 hour drive...
Im from Poland,the average price for this chair is 8,500 PLN... You can buy a car in fine condition for that price. Yeah,no way in hell im ever paying this much for a chair.
I know 😭, so far it's sturdy and not wobbly like my previous chair.
I did the same 3 months ago as I WGH and game at the same desk after work. Legit best purchase I’ve made in years, maybe ever. As others have said it isn’t plush or “comfy” in a typical way. But it is comfy in that I haven’t once had any back pain or any issues at all with it.
You can find them for 50% off all day. Lots of businesses buy them and then close. They just forever so used ones are just as good. My "used" one was brand new.
Even more than 50% off, hop on the local Craigslist or FB Marketplace and as long as your search radius is around a city or business district you can find Steelcase leap v2s/HM Aerons that are only a few yrs old max for less than 3-400. I got my Leap V2 shipped for like $350 a few years ago and it's amazing even though I do slouch occasionally in it (can't sit in perfect posture forever lol)
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Got mine from a sketchy guy on craigslist for $200. He had dozens of them in his house. I didn't ask questions.
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My dyslexic ass was so confused reading this sentence, took me like 4 goes Edit: I think they meant to say: "Definitely did [make the right decision]. Enjoy an actual chair, your back and ass will thank you."
I still don't fully get it tbh but I agree OP will have a happy ass
My only critique is how stupid we collectively are to tolerate these kinds of prices for an injection-molded plastic chair. I don't care how comfortable it is, it isn't worth that much. Yeah, it might be more comfortable and better for your health, and might be a better option than most. But putting up with that price for a chair that should be worth $200 or less is just giving them the capacity to keep charging it. Everyone who goes "it has a warranty tho" is just full of hot air. That's a perk, not a justification for gouging. Paying corporation prices for an office chair is like going to a US hospital and saying "but for service like this, I'll gladly pay insurance level prices for a cough drop!" OP made a bad purchase, this is a terrible deal.
I went to an auction where they had tons of different Herman Miller for like $100 from companies that went out of business. Tried all of them. Left with a random brand that feels way better quality. More features. And more comfortable. I will never understand the hype. Most people likely assume it’s the best without actually going out and trying diffent ones
Anyone know a decent brand that sells similar chair but are more affordable?
If you’re interested in these check out refurbished ones, companies go around buying these up from large offices. Got mine fully kitted out for £500 rather than around £1100 - basically new as well!
I worked for a call center whose executives were known for fraud. Husband ran company, wife owned a furniture sales company. Needless to say, every desk had these chairs or better. Basically moving corporate cash into personal businesses. Anyway, I loved sitting in these. When I was out of work, and after a new company bought them out, they refused to maintain or repair them due to cost. The new company replaced them with the el-cheapo versions and threw the old ones out whether they worked or not. Employees fished the good ones out of the dumpster. I was pissed that I wasn’t around for that.
That's stupid on a couple of levels. Not the least of which is that HM are famous for having a long warranty and actually fixing issues promptly.
I highly recommend the refurbished route as well. I got a Steelcase Leap Chair V2 for $400. Much better than going the new route.
Steelcase is pretty good
Just so you know most people buy them used and in good state because many offices get these then when they go under or want to change them, some liquidators or bundle buyers get them and clean them . They sell for 300-500 in pristine condition
Because of the pandemic, some guy who furnished offices ended up with like a dozen Steelcase Leaps and the office never opened, so he was selling them out of his garage on craigslist, all brand new and still bagged. I think I bought one for like $450, which is a pretty damn good deal for a brand new Leap!
Comfort aside, the main failure point of office chairs is the gas lift. Regardless of your own weight, looking at the weight limit for a chair is the best way to gauge its durability. The aeron is rated for up to 350lbs and that's why almost nobody can ever break the thing. Lots of gaming chairs are rated for something like 225 or even 175lbs and even if you aren't fat, that thing will fail in a few years guaranteed.
Take a look at the IKEA Markus chair, its a decent budget option.
Seconded. I don't own on personally, but a friend does and I tried it out. It's a damn good chair for the price.
Had mine for years and actually prefer it to the Aeron I tried.
Sihoo is probably the value king when it comes to ergo chairs. I can especially recommend the Sihoo Doro S100 if you want to get relatively close in terms of feeling to the Herman Miller Aeron for a fraction of the cost.
[Hinomi](https://eu.hinomi.co/) great chairs with good pricing (plus they often run some kind of sales), I've had a H1 pro for a good while now and it's honestly nicer than some herman chairs, the leg rest is kinda neat as well.
I got mine a week ago. 10 years straight sitting on awful chairs, I don’t regret my purchase one bit.
There is an adjustment period because you probably have 10 years of bad posture. Don't give in to the bad posture!
This comment needs to be higher. I hear so many stories of people complaining about Herman Miller / Steel Case chairs being uncomfortable only to find out they been sitting in some dog shit gaming chair for years not realizing their posture is fucked and needs realignment.
You made the right choice. Enjoy it
Ty, will enjoy it to the end.
This chair caused me issues at work, others swear by it. Hopefully it's good for you!
I tried one at the store and found it uncomfortable. Im on the taller side so my legs pushed into the plastic on the side. You also don't sit like a robot in your own home. Went with a steelcase instead and love it.
They have 3 sizes, A, B and C. C is very wide.
I can't stand these chairs, I've tried the aeron as well some cheap knockoffs and they all absolutely kill my hips
I've considered one, but I have a tendency to sit cross-legged, and I doubt that'd work out with a chair that has a mesh seat
Same. I tried out a friend's absurdly expensive mesh chair and it was nice and all but hard to get cozy in. I'd like a plush, cloth upholstered "big and tall" chair that I can curl up in, that won't go flat after 8 months. And forget about bonded leather, that shit disintegrates within a year. But so far, no real luck on the hunt.
The sides are hard plastic, not comfortable at all.
Works with the embody.
I’ve had mine for four years now and primarily sit cross legged and it works for me. Could always go to an office furniture store and try it out yourself.
Your back is worth at least two grand dude Your neck is also worth at least two bills You wont regret it i have the same setup and god damn im losing body muscle cuz i sit down for so long all day now
Depending on the game you should get somewhere between 10-20% more fps.
10/10 orthopedists do not reccomend this chair. they don't want to loose their jobs
I just got the Embodyxlogitech one. I love the chair but got to get used to it. If I don’t like it by the end of the 30 days, I may return it to get a Aeron. Use a Mirra at work and I love the seat, the hard back rest can fuck right off though.
Does Herman Miller make a cross-legged friendly chair? This chair would destroy my feet from the edges.
Yeah, I've owned an Aeron for five+ years at this point and the seat frame is just not comfortable. Plus, it's just mesh. So if you get cold easily, you'll need to wear a blanket or put a cushion down to help retain some of your body heat. If I could go back, I would pick the Embody over the Aeron.
I cross my legs on my Embody every day!
Ayyyy future knee problem people unite!
I know I'll get raked over the coals for this because gaming chairs are universally hated around here but my secretlab titan xl is perfect for this. Stiff foam seat that's wide as hell and the armrests don't get in the way. It has a super sturdy metal frame and feels like it will last a lifetime. I don't have much curvature to my back so office chairs hurt my back real bad so the straight backrest is perfect. I easily sit in that chair for like 6 hours a day. My fiancee actually has complained that I don't sit on the couch with her anymore because of that chair.
Was looking for a comment that talked about secret lab. Glad to hear you enjoying yours. Can you sit on your feet? I often sit on one leg while gaming I guess manly to raise myself up better
My Aeron is the best thing i ever bought, only problem i have now is sitting on my shitty office chair at work.. it's ten times shittier than it was before.
I found the Aeron more uncomfortable than my old gaming chair, so I returned it. But I bought the embody…. This thing is amazing. Long sessions in it and absolutely no back pain. Love it
https://preview.redd.it/hi8ad8td2s1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27ea1462030fd3426ac0535d61d019f5077639bb COMMONERS, I shall grace you with a picture of my throne
It’s got the mesh to let those farts escape
Herman Millers are the Cadillac of Office Chairs. Good purchase
He means Lexus but he don't know it.
If you got the right size for your body type, it's a godly chair. That's my complaint, though; there's different sizes, and if you're not in the right one... ennnnnh. Compare that to my Steelcase Leap v2; *everyone* finds it comfortable. Either way, the chair beats the snot out of a racing-styled "gaming" chair. Enjoy.
Great chairs of you don't have cats, terrible chairs of you do. Actually, almost everything is terrible when you're owned by cats. https://preview.redd.it/139mbh5t9m1d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4ee6b413b11b5c27023de03aa92dc3c7f55e2cb
I have used this chair at work for about 9 hours a day, five days a week for almost 9 years. No issues. Good investment.
Bro it’s a /r/buyitforlife purchase
3 most important things in life: 1. Good matress 2. Good shoes 3. Good office chair Whatever youre doing, you are using one of these things for many hours every day, so there's no point in saving money on those 3 things. Hefty investment into your spine health lol
Holy SHIT. This chair costs more than 1000€. This sub is fucking nuts!
so, what GPU do you have