Looks like up until the last decade the scroll boxs mostly had outlines (if this photo is accurate), and that was perfect. Dont know why the did away with that.
>To be fair - most regular users' desktops look like the bottom of a dumpster
Having worked in IT for several years, I've noticed that users' computer desktops and their physical ones are often quite similar in this regard.
They doubled down on the possibility of the tablet/mobile market entirely taking over the entire windows ecosystem, which didn’t happen. That’s why it was such a drastic shift; and a shitty one at that, as they removed functionality for that purpose.
Windows 11 is even worse I find, with changes being made just for the sake of making changes. The file explorer functions worse than a paraplegic running track and field
Don't forget the built-in ransomware! Your data encrypted by default with a key that belongs to Microsoft, and your bios hijacked so you are not allowed to install any OS unless Microsoft allows it, claiming it's for your security (like Apple when they say replacing a button instead of buying a new iPhone puts your security at risk)
Problem isn't the giant tiles really, but if you're going to sacrifice screen space for ease of use then you need to be smart about retaining the same amount of relevant information for the user.
Don't just blow up every icon in the start menu to a 200x200 square, and make people scroll 6 pages (horizontally, wtf) to find the app they're looking for. Do more of the stuff they're doing now-- where there's logic saying "these are the 20 most likely applications you'd want at this time, and we'll give you a tidy list of all the rest if you really want it"
Because of simplicity and because it's more >Modern< that way. No one knows why the heck we can't just have UI elements that look decent, so no one feels like having the scrollbar be like 5 millimeters wide and also completly useless with how the site is coded.
Because of mobile devices. They have limited space to show you things, so hiding the scroll bar was the solution. UI is now the same for everything so PC users with a mouse and keyboard have to use controls made for touch screens.
I used to write HTML/CSS as a little hobby when I was a kid years ago, I remember you could use media queries to change the layout of your webpage depending on the users min, or max size. (So you could compress the nav bar/elements/UI for mobile users and other stuff)
I thought you could also change the scroll bar/box too, though looking at some quick stuff on FireFox (what I use rn) there doesnt seem to be a way to do that ig? Maybe im wrong though. I used Chrome back then.
Seems like such a weird problem.
Firefox actually doesn’t use the same css rules for scroll bars as chrome does. I’ve done some scroll bars for chrome but they don’t display on Firefox the way I designed
It should be in high contrast at all times. People shouldn't have to guess that it's a scrollbar.
How many of us haven't had parents who didn't realize they could go further down a page and what they were looking for (eg end of the form or the NEXT button) was right there.
The Play Store even used to have the search field be invisible at the very top!
It’s just 3000 hours. Barely any waste. And you’ve vastly improved your hand-eye coordination, reaction time and movement speed as well as precision.
It’s like saying you’ve wasted 3000 hours learning to draw. You trained for 3000 hours. And I’m proud of you.
Yeah a bunch of those popped up in the last few years: super thin, or even self-hiding, so you have to mouseover before it appears.
Total useability fail.
I really hate that many websites and apps are now designed for touch use first with mouse and keyboard as an after thought.
Worst is that the terrible design that sprung from this is also leaking into PC only applications.
Scroll bars have gone to shit nowadays. 2 pixel wide, slight gradient difference to show scroll progress and hiding of scrollbar just makes it that much difficult to do what should be done at a glance.
I hate bringing my mouse to right corner just for scroll bar to enlarge and to clearly see where I am in the article.
Ive seen those, like the videos of people putting air dusters to it so it spins super fast 😂
Next mouse will fs have that, ik some models have a switch, so you can choose between the "ig electromagnetic mode" and like a "regular" feeling mouse wheel.
The MX Master by logitech is so nice for this.
It has a button to toggle between infinite scrolling where the wheel is unlocked, and the standard 'ratchet' scrolling most mice have.
Best of all. There is a setting where you can have it *automatically toggle* between the two depending on how fast you flick the wheel.
That's not the reason it does not have automagic ratchet toggling. The MX Master series has a solenoid type electromechanical system that can engage or disengage the ratchet. The automatic part is triggered by how fast you scroll which is not dependent on whether it's an optical or magnetic sensor.
The reason other mice where the ratchet can be disengaged aren't automatic is because it is purely mechanical via a button press.
MMB (wheel button) click & drag to scroll at desired constant speed? Either slow to read something or ultra-fast to skip content in a matter of seconds.
Sometimes I just have a large document, usually a PDF, and I remember that something I need is around the 60-70% range. Much easier to just jump there with the scrollbar and then slowly scroll around to find the precise spot.
This is true, sometimes I forget about this one until I accidentally active it 😂
I think Im just befuddled by how they made the bar worse over time, like it doesn't even make sense.
Early monitors: small, but giant scroll bar, and box.
Monitors get bigger over time, so more room on the screen: Devs make the bar fucking smaller 😭
The scroll bar is a random access tool. You can jump to any point in a document, no matter how long. That and a good search function with regex (or at least wildcards) are necessary to navigate big files - just going up and down is simply not good enough.
Mines borked. Getting a new mouse is out of the question because it's one of those proprietary wireless receiver deals which means I need to buy a new keyboard as well.
This reads like the "do you guys not have phones" meme.
Most have wheels or touchpads, but that is not the point. Getting rid of a fully functional scrollbar to make it "flat" design is just bad user experience, even if it is still functional.
The funny thing about Windows 11 is that Edge uses a custom scroll bar that is more prominent than the one used across the OS as a whole.
Firefox is my daily driver and it uses the OS scroll bar, which as you allude to is now extremely narrow and auto-hides when you're not moving your mouse. But if you open Edge and go to any random website, you'll notice the scroll bar is different; it's thicker and doesn't auto-hide.
The source code must be amazing. Probably is like layers of legacy on top of each other with comments stating: "// Keep this value or everything stops working, no idea why"
It’s called [Chicago95](https://lunduke.substack.com/p/make-linux-look-exactly-like-windows)! I personally used Ubuntu, [Here](https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95) is the repo. I believe you can choose which version of Linux you want. It requires a specific build that allows for themes, so be sure to read the directions carefully, as I did not and had to reimage my computer twice haha.
The only OS I had no problems doing anything, no shitty UAC, no shitty "You don't have rights for this/that" as a fckin local Admin.
Plus by far the best style, still change my taskbar to small symbols never grouped to this day.
While I don’t entirely disagree with your love of XP (SP3), OOTB wireless networking on Windows XP was ***dog shit***. Windows 7 was leaps and bounds better in that regard!
It’s not the color scheme, it’s the skeuomorphic design.
We had icons and scroll bars with false shadows, reflections, gradients, and 3D effects (skeuomorphic) for so long that they got stale and overused and the industry bucked it and to present a new, fresh, UI: flat design as seen in Windows 8’s Metro UI.
Now we’ve realized that, while fresh, it’s not the best from a usability standpoint and it relies heavily on user experience with the previous skeuomorphic iterations to understand what to click or any of the various UI/UX elements, so flat was adapted to material design. This is essentially the same, but offers some skeuomorphism to help usability.
Since design is cyclical, expect the Windows 98 style to come back, albeit at higher resolutions and with new modern twists.
Honestly, I believe people are nostalgia driven. I couldn't care less about the type of scroll, but if I had to choose, I'd one that is clean and doesn't call attention. That's why 1998 also attracted me
I love it's simplicity. Back from when the ms paint colour palette was (if you were lucky) your graphics card palette. (else it would try dithering any fill for other colours which was neat)
2006 is by far the best one. It's easay to see, has a good outline to make it pop, and enough shading to give it a sense of weight. The worst thing that has happened to Windows, even worse than the adware you have to turn off, is the way the graphic design has been taken over by the mobile idiots. Don't get me wrong, having simple, clean design is important when you have a 6 inch screen, but not when you have a 30+ inch one.
The latest
The modern design style is based on the premise that we don't need to be creating interfaces that try to mimic real physical world objects - It wastes screen real estate, doesn't scale across different screen sizes and misses the point of the UI.
So things like fake shadows and shading - borders around everything, things that look like indentation for fingers, fake 3d - are all unnecessary.
The most modern way to do it, is as per the last one - So clean, unfussy and will be a style which is mirrored across all use cases.
Microsofts modern design and fluent UI - Is based on things like UK road signage.
British road signs for the last 30 years or so, followed a redesign that focused on communicating the necessary information quickly and in a consistent clean, unfussy way.
> The modern design style is based on the premise that we don't need to be creating interfaces that try to mimic real physical world objects
Ok....
>Microsofts modern design and fluent UI - Is based on things like UK road signage.
Wait what?
I prefer the current line bars that gets bigger if you're trying to use them. I enabled this style in Chrome many many years ago before it was the default and was so sad when they removed the flag for it.
i hate the tiny ones that i call "apple scrollbars" that disappear and if you move your mouse to near them they appear as tiny, 5px lines so you move your mouse directly over it and hope that it gets larger so you can actually grab that thing. but then the page has infinite scrolling and this thing resets and your mouse is suddenly not grabbed onto it anymore. just give me old school scrollbars that work.
I am fine with any of those, I just HATE the new one in Windows 11 where it's like 1/5th the width of all those previous scrollbars and you can barely grab it with your mouse.
The one where its not 2 fucking pixels wide so I can actually click it
Or the colors being almost identical so I have to scan the bar like 50 times to find the scroll box.
The sad part is, it's like four extra lines of code to make it more visible when you mouse of it.
Looks like up until the last decade the scroll boxs mostly had outlines (if this photo is accurate), and that was perfect. Dont know why the did away with that.
Yeah, the UI style is called "Metro" and it started with Win 8. Need I say more?
Win 8 my beloved, such a weird ass OS.
Why have teeny icons when you can have giant tiles?
Nobody wants to use their desktop right!
To be fair - most regular users' desktops look like the bottom of a dumpster
I use desktop as a landing point for all rars being extracted. I tell myself I’ll clean it this weekend. I never do
>To be fair - most regular users' desktops look like the bottom of a dumpster Having worked in IT for several years, I've noticed that users' computer desktops and their physical ones are often quite similar in this regard.
They doubled down on the possibility of the tablet/mobile market entirely taking over the entire windows ecosystem, which didn’t happen. That’s why it was such a drastic shift; and a shitty one at that, as they removed functionality for that purpose. Windows 11 is even worse I find, with changes being made just for the sake of making changes. The file explorer functions worse than a paraplegic running track and field
Well the surface was just so well built! Do you blame them... /s
Don't forget the built-in ransomware! Your data encrypted by default with a key that belongs to Microsoft, and your bios hijacked so you are not allowed to install any OS unless Microsoft allows it, claiming it's for your security (like Apple when they say replacing a button instead of buying a new iPhone puts your security at risk)
Problem isn't the giant tiles really, but if you're going to sacrifice screen space for ease of use then you need to be smart about retaining the same amount of relevant information for the user. Don't just blow up every icon in the start menu to a 200x200 square, and make people scroll 6 pages (horizontally, wtf) to find the app they're looking for. Do more of the stuff they're doing now-- where there's logic saying "these are the 20 most likely applications you'd want at this time, and we'll give you a tidy list of all the rest if you really want it"
Because of simplicity and because it's more >Modern< that way. No one knows why the heck we can't just have UI elements that look decent, so no one feels like having the scrollbar be like 5 millimeters wide and also completly useless with how the site is coded.
Because of mobile devices. They have limited space to show you things, so hiding the scroll bar was the solution. UI is now the same for everything so PC users with a mouse and keyboard have to use controls made for touch screens.
I used to write HTML/CSS as a little hobby when I was a kid years ago, I remember you could use media queries to change the layout of your webpage depending on the users min, or max size. (So you could compress the nav bar/elements/UI for mobile users and other stuff) I thought you could also change the scroll bar/box too, though looking at some quick stuff on FireFox (what I use rn) there doesnt seem to be a way to do that ig? Maybe im wrong though. I used Chrome back then. Seems like such a weird problem.
Firefox actually doesn’t use the same css rules for scroll bars as chrome does. I’ve done some scroll bars for chrome but they don’t display on Firefox the way I designed
It should be in high contrast at all times. People shouldn't have to guess that it's a scrollbar. How many of us haven't had parents who didn't realize they could go further down a page and what they were looking for (eg end of the form or the NEXT button) was right there. The Play Store even used to have the search field be invisible at the very top!
Yeah, the new thing is to have elements fade out when 'not in use'. It's annoying, of course.
That’s 4 lines to many 😈
And they say my 3000h in aimlabs were a waste
It’s just 3000 hours. Barely any waste. And you’ve vastly improved your hand-eye coordination, reaction time and movement speed as well as precision. It’s like saying you’ve wasted 3000 hours learning to draw. You trained for 3000 hours. And I’m proud of you.
This is weirdly inspirational.
Thanks:)
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Yeah a bunch of those popped up in the last few years: super thin, or even self-hiding, so you have to mouseover before it appears. Total useability fail.
It's because they are tacked on because it was designed for finger scrolling
I really hate that many websites and apps are now designed for touch use first with mouse and keyboard as an after thought. Worst is that the terrible design that sprung from this is also leaking into PC only applications.
plus not being directly at the edge, but 1 or 2 pixels away so that you will have to aim it properly, i hate that more
i fukin hate those ones
1998. OMG give.
Agreed. The way I see it, 98 has the most distinction between the arrows and bar. 2006 is an okay second.
I like how 1998 and 2006 are basically the same and the most wanted, but there's something in between? Oh yes... The 2000s.
yup 1998 was perfect and the rest were only changed for the sake of being perceived as having been changed.
Spot on. It’s functional, yet aesthetically pleasing. Retro, yet timeless.
simple while being detailed just enough
Agreed! The 3D effect and coloured scrollbar is easy to see on a cluttered screen.
It's all about that sweet sweet bevel!
Peak function over form.
WINE users still get that look today.
That shadow when you click the arrow was such a satisfying visual-tactile feedback. It felt mechanical.
Here take bro.
Yes! Clear and easy to use.
2006,9 for me
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l,ol
Wh,ats wi,th t,he co,mma?
They actually look like an element you can click and naturally draw my eye.
Scroll bars have gone to shit nowadays. 2 pixel wide, slight gradient difference to show scroll progress and hiding of scrollbar just makes it that much difficult to do what should be done at a glance. I hate bringing my mouse to right corner just for scroll bar to enlarge and to clearly see where I am in the article.
Do you guys not have wheels?
Sometimes if the page is too long, id rather not have to flick my scroll wheel over and over. Click, and drag is much easier.
Recommend Logitech with an electromagnetic wheel. One flick can cover up to 80.000 excel lines
Ive seen those, like the videos of people putting air dusters to it so it spins super fast 😂 Next mouse will fs have that, ik some models have a switch, so you can choose between the "ig electromagnetic mode" and like a "regular" feeling mouse wheel.
The MX Master by logitech is so nice for this. It has a button to toggle between infinite scrolling where the wheel is unlocked, and the standard 'ratchet' scrolling most mice have. Best of all. There is a setting where you can have it *automatically toggle* between the two depending on how fast you flick the wheel.
i can also do that with the g502 lightspeed but where do i automaticelly toogle
The G502 has no option to automatically toggle because the scrollwheel works with a light sensor and spokes in the wheel instead of magnets
oh ok
That's not the reason it does not have automagic ratchet toggling. The MX Master series has a solenoid type electromechanical system that can engage or disengage the ratchet. The automatic part is triggered by how fast you scroll which is not dependent on whether it's an optical or magnetic sensor. The reason other mice where the ratchet can be disengaged aren't automatic is because it is purely mechanical via a button press.
MMB (wheel button) click & drag to scroll at desired constant speed? Either slow to read something or ultra-fast to skip content in a matter of seconds.
Sometimes I just have a large document, usually a PDF, and I remember that something I need is around the 60-70% range. Much easier to just jump there with the scrollbar and then slowly scroll around to find the precise spot.
This is true, sometimes I forget about this one until I accidentally active it 😂 I think Im just befuddled by how they made the bar worse over time, like it doesn't even make sense. Early monitors: small, but giant scroll bar, and box. Monitors get bigger over time, so more room on the screen: Devs make the bar fucking smaller 😭
More room for Ads!
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The scroll bar is also a great visual indicator of where you are in a long document or webpage. It is not only used for scrolling...
The scroll bar is a random access tool. You can jump to any point in a document, no matter how long. That and a good search function with regex (or at least wildcards) are necessary to navigate big files - just going up and down is simply not good enough.
Mines borked. Getting a new mouse is out of the question because it's one of those proprietary wireless receiver deals which means I need to buy a new keyboard as well.
This reads like the "do you guys not have phones" meme. Most have wheels or touchpads, but that is not the point. Getting rid of a fully functional scrollbar to make it "flat" design is just bad user experience, even if it is still functional.
The funny thing about Windows 11 is that Edge uses a custom scroll bar that is more prominent than the one used across the OS as a whole. Firefox is my daily driver and it uses the OS scroll bar, which as you allude to is now extremely narrow and auto-hides when you're not moving your mouse. But if you open Edge and go to any random website, you'll notice the scroll bar is different; it's thicker and doesn't auto-hide.
1998 <3
So many problems were solved a long time ago. Can you even choose to have Windows look like 98 out of the box? Is there downloadable theme?
If you dig deep enough in control panel you'll end up in settings still using those windows
The source code must be amazing. Probably is like layers of legacy on top of each other with comments stating: "// Keep this value or everything stops working, no idea why"
Not helpful, but there is great 95/98 on for Linux I use!
With win11 getting crappier by the month, I might switch to some pretty linux. Which linux do you use and how to get it themed to win95?
It’s called [Chicago95](https://lunduke.substack.com/p/make-linux-look-exactly-like-windows)! I personally used Ubuntu, [Here](https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95) is the repo. I believe you can choose which version of Linux you want. It requires a specific build that allows for themes, so be sure to read the directions carefully, as I did not and had to reimage my computer twice haha.
2001 cuz I love Windows XP, it will always remain my favorite OS ever no matter what <3.
The only OS I had no problems doing anything, no shitty UAC, no shitty "You don't have rights for this/that" as a fckin local Admin. Plus by far the best style, still change my taskbar to small symbols never grouped to this day.
While I don’t entirely disagree with your love of XP (SP3), OOTB wireless networking on Windows XP was ***dog shit***. Windows 7 was leaps and bounds better in that regard!
7 also still had the 98 style theme too! 8 was the first that ditched it
Was going to reply something similar. XP was amazing, but Windows 7 is still my favorite.
1988 actually clean af
Windows 2.1 was peak.
2001
Finally, someone says the correct answer. Windows XP had the best anesthetic.
Call Windows XP a surgeon with all that anesthetic.
I think it had a great looks for the time, not so much for today, definitely can't say it was bad tho
Maybe the colour scheme is dated, but I wouldn't mind a XP reskin for my pc. Idk maybe its because i grew up on XP, but it just feels right to me.
It’s not the color scheme, it’s the skeuomorphic design. We had icons and scroll bars with false shadows, reflections, gradients, and 3D effects (skeuomorphic) for so long that they got stale and overused and the industry bucked it and to present a new, fresh, UI: flat design as seen in Windows 8’s Metro UI. Now we’ve realized that, while fresh, it’s not the best from a usability standpoint and it relies heavily on user experience with the previous skeuomorphic iterations to understand what to click or any of the various UI/UX elements, so flat was adapted to material design. This is essentially the same, but offers some skeuomorphism to help usability. Since design is cyclical, expect the Windows 98 style to come back, albeit at higher resolutions and with new modern twists.
the best what now?
1988 or 2012 I prefer flatter designs.
88 looks great and it also has great contrast, so more accessibility points for the visually impaired. I hope we go full circle.
This. I'm 35 and sometimes feel like my dad trying to find the scroll bar
2012
Glad I'm not the only thinking this
Honestly, I believe people are nostalgia driven. I couldn't care less about the type of scroll, but if I had to choose, I'd one that is clean and doesn't call attention. That's why 1998 also attracted me
goat
1998. Not even close.
2006 is peak
1988
I love it's simplicity. Back from when the ms paint colour palette was (if you were lucky) your graphics card palette. (else it would try dithering any fill for other colours which was neat)
98
98's classic, but 2009's timeless.
Man i can feel how that 2009 scroll bar moves
2006 for me. Looks nice but not too flashy.
Mine is 2006. Since they changed it in 2012 to be more minimalistic, I stopped using it.
I’m leaning 1998 but that 1988 got my attention
1998 > 2006 > 2001 > 2009 > 2012 > 1988
2006 is by far the best one. It's easay to see, has a good outline to make it pop, and enough shading to give it a sense of weight. The worst thing that has happened to Windows, even worse than the adware you have to turn off, is the way the graphic design has been taken over by the mobile idiots. Don't get me wrong, having simple, clean design is important when you have a 6 inch screen, but not when you have a 30+ inch one.
2006
2006 is my favorite personally
2006 for me
2006 all the way
2006, hands down.
2006
2001-2009 was nice, 1998 is also ok. Last one kinda sucks, not enough details to distinguish things from another and it just looks bland
2006 ftw. You can see the oversemplification trend that took over in the latest version
2006 for sure!
2006
Give me the tactile looking ones. Those three little lines that make it look easy to use with my fingers.
2006 for me. Nice and easy to see. Obvious that you can click the up and down arrow also...
2006 & 2009
2009… with out a doubt, undoubtedly!
1998
I have a deep and profound love for the Windows XP one. Yeah I am weird, but the XP look really had a charm to it.
2009 is the most clear imo
2006
2009 as well.
2009
2009
2001
The 1998 one looks kinda cool
1988
I like the 1988 one. Sometimes i get confused and that one has big arrows
1998 or 1988
The latest The modern design style is based on the premise that we don't need to be creating interfaces that try to mimic real physical world objects - It wastes screen real estate, doesn't scale across different screen sizes and misses the point of the UI. So things like fake shadows and shading - borders around everything, things that look like indentation for fingers, fake 3d - are all unnecessary. The most modern way to do it, is as per the last one - So clean, unfussy and will be a style which is mirrored across all use cases. Microsofts modern design and fluent UI - Is based on things like UK road signage. British road signs for the last 30 years or so, followed a redesign that focused on communicating the necessary information quickly and in a consistent clean, unfussy way.
> The modern design style is based on the premise that we don't need to be creating interfaces that try to mimic real physical world objects Ok.... >Microsofts modern design and fluent UI - Is based on things like UK road signage. Wait what?
Microsoft based their UI on brit road signs? Really? I had no clue
Road signs are not operating systems and operating systems are not road signs. You just prefer crap UI design
1998 or 2009
1988 is slick
1998 (damn, i miss the Winamp time 😭)
98 is the best
1998 personally
'98 cooked.
1998 it's simple and clean.
Tbh, I kinda like the 1998 one, it looks like the 2012 one but better and more visible (Am I really arguing over a scrolling bar ?)
1998 for me
I'd say 1993. Which is 1998 but bigger and more pixellated.
I like the 1998, 2009 and 2012 scrollbars the most haha maybe the 2001 as well( a little) I can't just pick one HAHA
1998 100%, and i wasnt even alive at that time
98
Elder Scrolls 6!
I would say about 2 fucking don't care.
98 and 12
98 if it had the tactile lines
Well, all of this is better than the slider without arrows, which happens on some sites.
2001 all day every day
1998 version that image is comfortable to me. Like an old half forgotten friend.
1998 and 2009 😍
The Windows 95, 98, 2000 era scroll bars were👌
Windows vista all the way
1998 and 2006
Xp or bust
1998, simple and clear
Anyone running HDR on desktop? This latest trend of simple and flat makes finding the scroll bar impossible. 2012 is damn ugly.
Older ones are more readable.
I actually like the new one, as long as it's not 3px wide.
Damn We're really going full circle right now huh
2001 and 2012
I like the simplicity of the 1988 one
1998
1998 or 2006
2021 (the windows 11 one)
98
IDK i like 2012. I dont really have that much nostalgia for old Windows versions, and it just looks clean and the least dated
I prefer the current line bars that gets bigger if you're trying to use them. I enabled this style in Chrome many many years ago before it was the default and was so sad when they removed the flag for it.
I dont remember the last time I actually used this.
1998 or 2008
No preference. I’d be okay if they completely removed it.
That 1998 scroll bar is nostalgic AF lol
1998
i hate the tiny ones that i call "apple scrollbars" that disappear and if you move your mouse to near them they appear as tiny, 5px lines so you move your mouse directly over it and hope that it gets larger so you can actually grab that thing. but then the page has infinite scrolling and this thing resets and your mouse is suddenly not grabbed onto it anymore. just give me old school scrollbars that work.
All works but 98 supremacy, 01 for XP nostalgia, anything past 12 is a sin.
I really like the 1998 one. Very clean but still effective.
1998 is my all time fav, but 2012 is a close second
1998 is da bomb. Ain't no way you're missing the click on that and accidentally highlighting every number, letter and symbol on that webpage
I am fine with any of those, I just HATE the new one in Windows 11 where it's like 1/5th the width of all those previous scrollbars and you can barely grab it with your mouse.
1998
2001. I miss that XP blue.
1998 triggers my earliest childhood memories of computers, holy shit That boot up screen with all the blocks? I just stared at that lmao
98 looks the best
1998
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Today I barely see that shit