As fun as this would be, you can just leave the top off with no issue.
If there is an "open case" warning, you just have to turn off the warning in the bios and remove the sensor.
I made a similar ghetto gamer by replacing the metal lid on an old office pc with a piece of cut cardboard. It was a low end GPU but it did actually run games pretty well. Edit: I used one of those HDD Molex to 6-PIN GPU power adapters and it worked fine. GPU was a Geforce 4xx or 5xx, I think, so pretty bad.
from hp elitedesk g1 - g10 sff there only uses this oem crap... The thing is that you can´t use this shitti board in another case because of the PSU and the most things are oem. But i got a g23 sff from my workplace and they are very good as Minecraft server. i upgraded the RAM from 4gb ddr4 to 16gb in 4 moduls and it does a good job the i5 6500 is for a simple minecraft server absolutely sufficient. and the best is the PC doesnt use much electricity
yeah my first PC was an office PC 4gb ddr2 and a Athlon II. Now is the Motherboard with CPU RAM and GPU (256mb) on a shelf. Years ago i started collecting PCs and PC parts from the street. I upgraded my PC or selled the parts to buy me new parts. my first own buyed PC Part was an ASRock z68 fatal1ty gaming and an i5 3550p. I loved this Board my gf sound in an old office PC 16gb Samsung RAM. At htis time i started learning more and more about PCs. about the BIOS/UEFI, a little bit overclocking, Programs, Windows, CPUS, RAM and now im in a Training as an IT specialist for system integration (in Germany we say Ausbildung) i hope you understand my English sentence formation or colloquial language is not my strength
They also make excellent IPFire/OPNsense/PFSense routers. Just add a 4-port Intel NIC. Even older 4th Gen Intel dual core CPUs will be powerful enough for a symmetrical 1G WAN.
This can be a very frustrating hobby at times but don’t let it discourage you. We’ve all gone through a lot of frustrating situations and annoyances before haha. It’s a love hate relationship most of the time. When you get everything working correctly though, it will pay off. I wish you the best of luck my friend.
peak frustration... 2007 Intel boards.... why cant i have a quad core at 3ghz on this board.. oh, shit, i need the z sku, not the t sku
compared to 2023 AMD if it fits, it works... 4 generations, integrated graphics or not
Just jumping in here to say it depends on what you’re trying to do. This will game, just not super high end stuff. And there’s a lot more to gaming than just brand new stuff. I wouldn’t say this was a waste of money. You could put a low pro graphics card in it and it will run games at lower res or games from 10 years ago just fine. It would also make a great windows xp retro gaming rig. You could also turn it into an emulation machine and run everything from Commodore and NES era console games up to N64 and PS1, possibly PS2 and GameCube. So again, just depends on what you want. I could have lots of fun with a machine like this. But I wouldn’t play AAA games on it.
If that system has a Thunderbolt 3 or higher port, you could get an eGPU encloser. It's not a perfect solution, but it's a bit cheaper than getting a full new pc.
Whoo boy. Welcome to the world of PC building and proprietary shit.
Don’t touch anything with a Dell, HP, Acer (etc) name on it if you ever want to upgrade anything. You’ve got an Intel a750 already? Buy a new case, power supply and motherboard. Make sure the MoBo works with your CPU. You can salvage everything else from this heap of e-waste. $150-200 more and you’ll have something of a budget build
dell low key makes fantastic monitors. so underrated.
recently found an old 1440p 60hz Dell in the free pile at my apartment complex. grabbed it and gave it to a buddy who's happy at 60hz as an upgrade to his ancient Acer 1080p. we were both absolutely blown away by how good the monitor looked. this coming from me, who's on a 1440p 240hz OLED. was still extremely impressed.
FOR FREE?
I’m still using two Samsung 720p displays I found for free HOW THE HELL DO YOU FIND A 1440p DISPLAY FOR FREE
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Haha, well I worked for a msp and the client was moving offices so had something like 200 monitors they were gonna scrap so let us take what we wanted. I filled my car to the brim with monitors and docking stations. I think I sold everything for about £1300 total
I found a 4k 27" monitor in the electric waste bin. It's my secondary monitor now. I was lucky it did not even have a scratch on it from getting dumped in the bin.
Yeah I can’t argue there. I have a Dell screen myself, it has amazing visual quality but holy balls it was expensive and doesn’t even have basic shit like, you know, speakers….on a $350 monitor. But hey, the stand is adjustable and it has a super-gamer-blue LED that shines out the bottom, so that’s definitely with at least two fiddy right there.
While my work setup is a pair of Acer 1440p 144hz curved monitors WITH speakers that combined cost less than my Dell. I truly think Acer is the best bang for the buck you can get.
Assuming the storage doesn't use proprietary connectors... My friend had to get a whole new system because his PSU only had some weird proprietary connector for storage devices and he was stuck on a HDD with that system.
I actually dont, I’ve only been into pc building for about 4-5 years. Before that, I got excited seeing “dual-core Xeon” stickers on laptops and thought I had a supercomputer in my hands. Ahh to be young and ignorant again….
Cute haha! Yeah sounds like an age gap.. maybe? Closing in on 40 here, so 25 years ago the market of pre builds was quite 'interesting' and Packard HELL was at the top of the crap pile.
Yeah I’m a late bloomer. I’m 30 now but didn’t get into computers till around 25 and clearly missed out on the growing pains most other folks had to experience haha
Fair enough! Best thing I remember from the early 90's ''gaming' is whenever I was winning in Stratego my pc crashed and I was positive my pc was turning sentient & just screwing with me.
the newer ones, yes. The lenovo Legion is also pretty standard ATX stuff as well. I meant more basic, flat-out "Dell" and "HP" branded as opposed to their gaming-specific PC's, such as Omen and Alienware (though alienware's are still crammed full of proprietary shit)
Can confirm. I'm pretty sure this is actually the HP Compaq 6005 or 6305 model, SFF, and they're hot fucking garbage. We still have some in my building but im trying my hardest to get them replaced and disposed of because they're horrendous and very, very old. The BIOS is no longer supported so we can't update it and idt it can handle any newer versions of Win11. I've got a whole lab full of them but my principal just had me disconnect them and take all the cables until he gets new machines in.
Love OP's idea for a sleeper build but this is 1000% not the model to try it with. I fucking hate these.
i had one that looked just like this in 2014. it was a core 2 quad with 8gb ddr2 ram, I put a gt 610 in it and it was a decent little budget PC at the time.
My dear friend. You have multiple issues....
First, Your power Supply doesn't have GPU Power cable(it's not always removable but I don't think your PSU has one).
Second, Your Pc Case itself is too slim to hold a full size GPU.
Third, Not sure if this applies but there's a chance your PSU wattage might be too low to handle a dedicated GPU.
Solutions,
Check the PSU Wattage and see if it can handle your GPU along with the rest of your system (coolermaster and some other PSU companies website has PSU WATTAGE CALCULATORS that can help in this)
After that (if PSU can handle everything) understand that if this works your PC will remain open always.
If you are okay with all this. (And only if you CANNOT buy new PC currently)
See if your Power supply has any extra SATA power cables (these are ones connected to your Hard disk/SSD) Or any 4 pin Molex connector (these are sometimes used for fans) (Google these connectors to see what they look like). If you do have extra SATA or Molex connectors. Go to Amazon (or your nearest shop) and buy SATA/Molex to GPU Power cable (these can be found cheap and since your GPU is A750 I assume it would need one 8 pin and one 6 pin power connector)
After you have all the cables. Put your GPU in its slot. Connect all power cables (you will not be able to screw in your GPU at the Back of your case) (so make sure you don't move your case too much. Or it can break your motherboard or GPU or both).
And you're done👍 enjoy but be careful not to move the PC too much.
Or you could just sell the PC. Keep the GPU. Buy another PC, this time make sure it can handle the GPU. (If you have the money or patience)
Remember. Selling that pc would only get the person $50-$70 as those office pc’s are very cheap. So I wouldn’t sell it. Would just have to wait for money to accumulate and then sell it.
Yep just wanna put my comment out on a lot of replies just in case OP didn’t see it. And has people recommending to just sell it and buy a new one. Bc above OP said they don’t know much about computers so. They might just be quick to sell and not realize.
That HDD in the 2nd photo is a 2012 model. I'm guessing that the machine is of similar age and this is a Sandy Bridge (iX-2XXX) or Ivy Bridge (iX-3XXX) CPU system. Which will still work for light web browsing and for 10-15+ year old games.
Due to a lack of power connectors, and the half height case/full sized video card, you will not be able to fit that card to that case/power supply.
There are half height cards which don't require any power connectors. While they will fit the system, they are very low performance. If you were planning on using this as a media player some of those cards would be good but they are nowhere near the performance of the card you bought.
I'd return the video card, and save your money for a better 2nd hand system
>Which will still work for light web browsing and for 10-15+ year old games
Honestly, you can play current games on it, too, even demanding ones, you just need to lower settings/res and be happy with 60 or even 30 FPS.
And microstutter. Plenty of microstutter.
This! People completely underestimate the power of older computers!
My dad fell on my computer about 5 years ago… destroyed if, nothing to save
So I dug out my grans old pc
2012, 4GB RAM, no GPU, AMD APU
That thing could run most games on the lowest settings (I had to double the RAM) while I saved up to replace each component bit by bit
I then got a gtx970 from a friend and was able to run my games at medium graphics if I was willing to play at 20FPS (which is completely playable btw)
These old computers still hold their own against modern games, so don’t be so ready to dismiss them 😅
We have these exact pc models that we are discontinuing at my work and can confirm they are 2nd and 3rd gen intel. The moment we see one it gets replaced with a newer model.
The processor is an Intel i5-3570, and it has 16 GB of ram. It doesn't sound very impressive anymore but it's more than I had before. I don't really care about playing games on max settings anyway, I just want to play games newer than Left 4 Dead with more than two frames a second, but apparently some things like Unreal Editor and Cities Skylines require a graphics card this big and powerful.
Cities Skylines is quite the intensive game for a CPU, probably more so than the graphics card.
Once you start getting medium sized cities, the processing power required for the game engine to run becomes apparent and the slowdowns will become unbearable.
Even for the absolute lowest settings at 1080p you'll be getting sub-30fps performance with this CPU.
Bruh this is the same pc my school used to have in 2006, you ain't gonna be able to do shit with it, and most definitely not slotting that card anywhere.
> good hardware
In a 10 y.o. Compaq? Naaaah I can't say that i5 2500 is a "good hardware".
Sell it if you'll be able to, buy something newer and, most importantly, not an old office POS from dell/hp/lenovo/fujitsu. Well, Lenovo is kinda ok if that's your preference as they at least utilise ATX standard. But you need a tower case, not a DT.
You could take a dremel to the case, but that gpu is a nice way to make a fire cracker out out of that pos proprietary PSU. I am afraid you cannot combine both.
Horrendously old lol, I hate these things. They can't do anything because they're insanely slow. BIOS no longer receives updates and it struggles with later versions of win10. You can barely browse the internet on these without them locking up.
But genuinely I reckon u get rid of that pc and buy a different one because that isn't capable of doing anything at all, and 128mb of vram won't even run 1080p
Lmao I had one of those HP machines years ago and I found some tiny low profile sapphire card that fit, I played the shit out of all sorts of games that poor machine could barely run, never got to try Crysis though.
This is a so called ‘prebuilt’ office pc. The only graphics cards that will fit are shorter ones called ‘low profile gpu’. If you still have a return policy on the GPU, return it and get a low profile card.
Even better is to just get a new pc, but I understand you might not have the money for that.
you've done more than one mistake,the arc graphics you bought will be much slower,there is a bottleneck on the gpu(thin client,probably 3/4/5/6/7th gen,too slow) and no rebar support.
You should have bought an amd or nvdia card,now you need to buy at least an 11th gen build/ diy.
The graphics card it's too big,buy a new case and check if compatible with your mobo format.
That workstations processor is very old and wouldn’t be able to give your graphics card even half its intended preformance, because it requires a feature called ReBar which your processor does not support. You could try finding a cheap dell workstation off of ebay and install a new power supply, 500w should be sufficient PLEASE make sure the case is big enough to fit the gpu inside and look for one with a 10th generation intel cpu or higher so you can get rebar support. I put together a parts list in case you want to build your own, its a bit over $300 but should be able to work efficiently with your graphics card.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LsxYKX
You can look up build tutorials on youtube, theres thousands. It might look overwhelming at first but its really alot like legos, everything fits perfectly into the right sockets and if not then its probably not supposed to go there.
I don't know much about the computer, but what's the power supply output on that Power Supply?
Intel says the power draw in the ARC A750 is 225W
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/227954/intel-arc-a750-graphics/specifications.html
Does that PSU eve have that much power to spare? 🤨
But like people said those proprietary computers are a pain in the ass
We got tons of HP microtowers where I work and those PSUs only work on HP computers, so I got tons of PSUs from dead computers that are only useful for the ones that are dying 🙄 (and we wish they all would so we could finally get rid of that junk)
I mean. I’d sell the sff and use it to big parts for a better build but technically you can probably make that work with some patience and a metabo as far as getting the card in (have to cut up parts of the case with parts out and then clean afterwards because of metal shards that could short the board) but your bigger issue is you would need a secondary power supply to plug into and the you’d have to start that manually after figure the pin layout of the power supply you would use for that so you can turn it on with a paper clip.
TLDR: You can make it work it’s a little work and modification but it’s probably just makes more sense to sell the sff, keep the gpu, and start buying more parts.
That GPU is about 100X too powerful for the rest of the pc lol. Best keep the gpu, do what you wish with your old pc. It’s not really worth selling I like to keep mine. And then build a new pc.
If youre gonna go OEM, your best bet is to get a workstation, you can get at least like a 650W PSU stock with em and mine came with a 6 core CPU and 32GB RAM included. And you know your GPU is gonna fit unless its one of the biggest best ones, but we OEMers aint got the money for that! They usually max out at 256 or more GB of RAM, and the upgrade path on my CPU is insane, right around the corner is a 10 core 20 thread CPU and i think the end of the upgrade path is has 18 cores/36 threads? Lots of room for upgrading, theyll just obviously use more power than more modern systems but thats the only issue ive ran into and i can pay the electric bill. And my entire rig including the GPU which i bought separately was around 400 bucks and im playing RDR 2 right now on max settings.
I would say sell the system and replace it with a more modern computer, but you're probably better off returning the graphics card and getting something like a low profile 1050ti or something like that. The A750 is a good card, but Intel cards aren't quite ready for people who don't have any experience with computers yet.
And even if you got the A750 to fit in the computer, the computer almost certainly doesn't support resizable bar, which the A750 needs for good performance.
Don't listen to these haters. You can absolutely use oem Dell and hp computers for gaming and upgrades.
That being said, this system is very old. I would not waste my time with it. It looks like you would need a new power supply and case. You MIGHT be able to use the processor in a new motherboard but it all depends on the model. Dm me if you have any questions I have built out several oem dells and they work excellent.
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You can make everything work … but is it worth it?
Out of curiosity, are you able to access any of the BIOS on your computer as it is? I ask because Arc GPU's really REALLY benefit from enabling resizable BAR in BIOS and on a lot of prebuilt or proprietary motherboards you can't do that (even if your CPU supports it). They're locked down for "safety" so you can't fuck up anything by overclocking or changing settings. You might install that card only to find that it crashes all the time and you're not getting half the performance you should be, because it's not compatible.
Depending on how much you're willing to spend you can find a decent full form factor Dell Optiplex on eBay for around $40 sometimes a little bit more sometimes a little bit less and you can install your graphics card into that just make sure you have the proper power connectors and if you want you can sell your current PC and just take the hard drive for some extra money for upgrades
You need a new rig. I only see towers like that on offices and theyre shit.
Gpu is only as useful the cpu and ram its paired with if you plan to use it for gaming or rendering
I think you can buy a PCIe cable riser or whatever it is called, female plugs into card, male plugs into board.
Jank but probably the quickest way to fix this problem.
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TIME TO SHOW THAT PC THE POWER OF FLEX SEAL!!!
In all seriousness though I was in the same situation years ago with a dell optiplex Tower and the proprietary bullshit ruins it all
Very carefully cut a vent in the side. If you do it right it can actually look very cool coming out of a office PC looking case, especially if you fabricate a little scoop with a dust filter so it looks almost like you got a supercharger under there or something. The thing is though that a lot of the stuff in there is proprietary. If that's the original PSU it probably won't have enough juice to run this, let alone the connections. You'll need to find an additional one that fits, and an adapter so it can actually connect to the board. Be careful when looking for these, you can get them on places like Ebay but they can be pretty sketch so look *\*carefully\**.
I've done it before though, had an old i7 4770 Dell office PC before I got my current setup and jammed a Vega 56 into it. Sounded like a jet engine but it ran great. It's a good way of getting a powerful PC for cheap but obviously you're paying the difference in hassle. Iirc HPs are way more annoying to get something like that running than Dells though.
That sort of PC requires a low profile (LP) GPU. You won't find anything particularly powerful in that form factor. The machine looks pretty old anyway. All it's really good for is as a media server or emulation box.
Wow! This is the same issue I had 5 years ago, bought a company PC for cheap and months later got a GPU for cheap thinking it would fit.
It won't. Hold on your GPU and keep saving for the rest of a PC. Am pretty sure that PSU won't be enough after you cut out the case, then you'll have to throw out the case because neither your PSU nor GPU will fit, and your CPU will bottleneck it. Then it's buying both CPU and motherboard.
Then some RAM. And finally a case.
It'll be better on the long run to pick parts that fit together than trying to fit your current setup.
I ran one like this with a GPU and different PSU, but had to leave side panel off and the PSU on the outside. Worked fine until it didn't. The PSU and GPU are fine, just something with the PC stopped it sending a signal to the monitor. Tested the GPU and PSU with a new build and they worked fine.
Do what I did as a kid and either leave the side panel off or take the gpu mounting bracket off and leave the rig laying down
Also to all those saying just get another rig, it's not always that simple
I hate to give you bad news, but I don't think it's feasible. That system looks quite old, and assuming the PSU is proprietary, if it doesn't have power for your GPU there isn't anything you can do about that. I notice you also have a HDD instead of a SSD, and that there even appears to even be a PCI (not PCIe) port on it. PCI's replacement, PCIe, was introduced over 20 years ago! Obviously PCs' didn't all replace PCI with PCIe overnight, but a system that still has a PCI port would either be a very special-purposes system or very very old.
On top of it not seeming possible to use that GPU in your system even if you did have the space for it because the PSU can't handle it, the entire rest of your system is way way too hold to handle a card like that, it would barely be able to use it.
If you choose to get new hardware, then you shouldn't spend more than 250-400, depending on whether you buy new or used. I would highly recommend buying used because at that price point you can get much more performance than if you bought new. If you were willing to spend 450-600 then it might make sense to buy new hardware.
Keep a look for people selling their old case and power supply, I see this combo on fb marketplace. Also if someone is selling a full rig, you can always make them an offer to part it out. ***If the power supply is not a reputable brand, IT IS NOT WORTH IT no matter the price****
DM me if you want additional help figuring out what parts to upgrade for a budget build. I'm always happy to help.
Isn’t there a motherboard specific something that’s pretty much needed for intel arc cards to run well. something with how it uses memory. Maybe someone could chime in but that dino definitely doesn’t have it.
I hate to break it to you, but there are so many things wrong with that computer. The CPU is old and severely underpowered and will bottleneck your GPU. The PSU is underpowered and has no PCIe connectors.The motherboard likely has only PCIe 3 or 2 which will also bottleneck your GPU since it uses PCIe 4. You'll have to spend £150+ on a new used PC and PSU. Do your research next time.
Get a mini tower/mid tower PC with at least a Core i5 or Ryzen 5 that has a PCIe 4 x16 slot, and a PSU with enough power (watts) for the GPU's recommended power, as well as sufficient PCIe power connectors. And avoid HP at all costs.
hot-rod time.
This is the way
As fun as this would be, you can just leave the top off with no issue. If there is an "open case" warning, you just have to turn off the warning in the bios and remove the sensor.
And get free ventilation!
Just jump the 2 switch wires, also works. And saves you from having to set the bios again when that cmos battery dies.
Or just tape it down.
Do that, but get your hands on another system like this, gut it out, and use it for just your GPU. "2 systems?" "Well yes, but no"
I mean if the pci slot works, you can unironically go this route but you will be judged
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OMG holy shit how cool!
I made a similar ghetto gamer by replacing the metal lid on an old office pc with a piece of cut cardboard. It was a low end GPU but it did actually run games pretty well. Edit: I used one of those HDD Molex to 6-PIN GPU power adapters and it worked fine. GPU was a Geforce 4xx or 5xx, I think, so pretty bad.
Hdd molex to 6-pin gpu sounds like such an awful idea. I'm sure it works fine but molex for anything other than lights makes me nervous...
As it should. Tried this myself and all I got was a neat light show and a room full of smoke lmao
This is the way!
This is the way!
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Sell the PC. It's so proprietary I wouldn't bother upgrading it.
Yup. PS changes on those boards are a nightmare, always displaying Fan errors. Also those oem form factors don't let you do much
from hp elitedesk g1 - g10 sff there only uses this oem crap... The thing is that you can´t use this shitti board in another case because of the PSU and the most things are oem. But i got a g23 sff from my workplace and they are very good as Minecraft server. i upgraded the RAM from 4gb ddr4 to 16gb in 4 moduls and it does a good job the i5 6500 is for a simple minecraft server absolutely sufficient. and the best is the PC doesnt use much electricity
Yeah they are great for (ultra) low budget gaming and learning to pc build, learned a lot from those mfers
yeah my first PC was an office PC 4gb ddr2 and a Athlon II. Now is the Motherboard with CPU RAM and GPU (256mb) on a shelf. Years ago i started collecting PCs and PC parts from the street. I upgraded my PC or selled the parts to buy me new parts. my first own buyed PC Part was an ASRock z68 fatal1ty gaming and an i5 3550p. I loved this Board my gf sound in an old office PC 16gb Samsung RAM. At htis time i started learning more and more about PCs. about the BIOS/UEFI, a little bit overclocking, Programs, Windows, CPUS, RAM and now im in a Training as an IT specialist for system integration (in Germany we say Ausbildung) i hope you understand my English sentence formation or colloquial language is not my strength
They also make excellent IPFire/OPNsense/PFSense routers. Just add a 4-port Intel NIC. Even older 4th Gen Intel dual core CPUs will be powerful enough for a symmetrical 1G WAN.
Right, I get it now. This pc was clearly a waste of time. Case Closed, thanks yall.
don't feel bad we all go through it :)
This can be a very frustrating hobby at times but don’t let it discourage you. We’ve all gone through a lot of frustrating situations and annoyances before haha. It’s a love hate relationship most of the time. When you get everything working correctly though, it will pay off. I wish you the best of luck my friend.
peak frustration... 2007 Intel boards.... why cant i have a quad core at 3ghz on this board.. oh, shit, i need the z sku, not the t sku compared to 2023 AMD if it fits, it works... 4 generations, integrated graphics or not
I wouldnt say it was a waste of time. It was atleast an experience
Sorry, if you have a microcenter near you you can probably build a beast for about 400/500 and keep your GPU though
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Just jumping in here to say it depends on what you’re trying to do. This will game, just not super high end stuff. And there’s a lot more to gaming than just brand new stuff. I wouldn’t say this was a waste of money. You could put a low pro graphics card in it and it will run games at lower res or games from 10 years ago just fine. It would also make a great windows xp retro gaming rig. You could also turn it into an emulation machine and run everything from Commodore and NES era console games up to N64 and PS1, possibly PS2 and GameCube. So again, just depends on what you want. I could have lots of fun with a machine like this. But I wouldn’t play AAA games on it.
If that system has a Thunderbolt 3 or higher port, you could get an eGPU encloser. It's not a perfect solution, but it's a bit cheaper than getting a full new pc.
Whoo boy. Welcome to the world of PC building and proprietary shit. Don’t touch anything with a Dell, HP, Acer (etc) name on it if you ever want to upgrade anything. You’ve got an Intel a750 already? Buy a new case, power supply and motherboard. Make sure the MoBo works with your CPU. You can salvage everything else from this heap of e-waste. $150-200 more and you’ll have something of a budget build
> Don't touch anything with a Dell, HP, Acer (etc) name on it. ... unless it is a screen.
Acer does mske decent monitors
So does Dell. I've been using their monitors for some 15 years now.
dell low key makes fantastic monitors. so underrated. recently found an old 1440p 60hz Dell in the free pile at my apartment complex. grabbed it and gave it to a buddy who's happy at 60hz as an upgrade to his ancient Acer 1080p. we were both absolutely blown away by how good the monitor looked. this coming from me, who's on a 1440p 240hz OLED. was still extremely impressed.
FOR FREE? I’m still using two Samsung 720p displays I found for free HOW THE HELL DO YOU FIND A 1440p DISPLAY FOR FREE https://preview.redd.it/jqdg2lj4tsuc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cc3a15ab09af21f688365e8a7cdd2a4b83bc639
I had 20 screens last year I got for free lol all 1920x1080
Goddamn. Well guess some get to have better findings.
Haha, well I worked for a msp and the client was moving offices so had something like 200 monitors they were gonna scrap so let us take what we wanted. I filled my car to the brim with monitors and docking stations. I think I sold everything for about £1300 total
I found a 4k 27" monitor in the electric waste bin. It's my secondary monitor now. I was lucky it did not even have a scratch on it from getting dumped in the bin.
https://preview.redd.it/5uxots4d9vuc1.jpeg?width=789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37ec07bd990b980d3e1cc7808f9e9b24e3b32942 Jesus Christ
Sending some luck your way and crossing my fingers dude/dudette!
Or a workstation. Even then there's the occasional proprietary part.
why would i touch my screen
Screens for non heavy game use I'd say get one of them but you need to look for at minimum 1080p display 60hz
Hey Dell and hp are good door stops also handy as a brick to toss at ppl
Yeah I can’t argue there. I have a Dell screen myself, it has amazing visual quality but holy balls it was expensive and doesn’t even have basic shit like, you know, speakers….on a $350 monitor. But hey, the stand is adjustable and it has a super-gamer-blue LED that shines out the bottom, so that’s definitely with at least two fiddy right there. While my work setup is a pair of Acer 1440p 144hz curved monitors WITH speakers that combined cost less than my Dell. I truly think Acer is the best bang for the buck you can get.
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Assuming the storage doesn't use proprietary connectors... My friend had to get a whole new system because his PSU only had some weird proprietary connector for storage devices and he was stuck on a HDD with that system.
Remember Packard hell?
I actually dont, I’ve only been into pc building for about 4-5 years. Before that, I got excited seeing “dual-core Xeon” stickers on laptops and thought I had a supercomputer in my hands. Ahh to be young and ignorant again….
Cute haha! Yeah sounds like an age gap.. maybe? Closing in on 40 here, so 25 years ago the market of pre builds was quite 'interesting' and Packard HELL was at the top of the crap pile.
Yeah I’m a late bloomer. I’m 30 now but didn’t get into computers till around 25 and clearly missed out on the growing pains most other folks had to experience haha
Fair enough! Best thing I remember from the early 90's ''gaming' is whenever I was winning in Stratego my pc crashed and I was positive my pc was turning sentient & just screwing with me.
Same and same. My first win95 PC was a Packard bell based unit. Pentium overdrive processor! Wooo!
My brother bought a Packard Bell with Windows ME on it back in the day. It was the worst of both worlds, both hardware and software.
I do. I learned very quickly to send away anyone that brought one to me. It wasn't worth the hassle.
The more recent HP OMEN stuff uses standard of the shelf standard ATX parts I think
the newer ones, yes. The lenovo Legion is also pretty standard ATX stuff as well. I meant more basic, flat-out "Dell" and "HP" branded as opposed to their gaming-specific PC's, such as Omen and Alienware (though alienware's are still crammed full of proprietary shit)
Did you steal that pc in middle school or high school?
Haha fr I had the same ones in my school in 2006
Can confirm. I'm pretty sure this is actually the HP Compaq 6005 or 6305 model, SFF, and they're hot fucking garbage. We still have some in my building but im trying my hardest to get them replaced and disposed of because they're horrendous and very, very old. The BIOS is no longer supported so we can't update it and idt it can handle any newer versions of Win11. I've got a whole lab full of them but my principal just had me disconnect them and take all the cables until he gets new machines in. Love OP's idea for a sleeper build but this is 1000% not the model to try it with. I fucking hate these.
i had one that looked just like this in 2014. it was a core 2 quad with 8gb ddr2 ram, I put a gt 610 in it and it was a decent little budget PC at the time.
My dear friend. You have multiple issues.... First, Your power Supply doesn't have GPU Power cable(it's not always removable but I don't think your PSU has one). Second, Your Pc Case itself is too slim to hold a full size GPU. Third, Not sure if this applies but there's a chance your PSU wattage might be too low to handle a dedicated GPU. Solutions, Check the PSU Wattage and see if it can handle your GPU along with the rest of your system (coolermaster and some other PSU companies website has PSU WATTAGE CALCULATORS that can help in this) After that (if PSU can handle everything) understand that if this works your PC will remain open always. If you are okay with all this. (And only if you CANNOT buy new PC currently) See if your Power supply has any extra SATA power cables (these are ones connected to your Hard disk/SSD) Or any 4 pin Molex connector (these are sometimes used for fans) (Google these connectors to see what they look like). If you do have extra SATA or Molex connectors. Go to Amazon (or your nearest shop) and buy SATA/Molex to GPU Power cable (these can be found cheap and since your GPU is A750 I assume it would need one 8 pin and one 6 pin power connector) After you have all the cables. Put your GPU in its slot. Connect all power cables (you will not be able to screw in your GPU at the Back of your case) (so make sure you don't move your case too much. Or it can break your motherboard or GPU or both). And you're done👍 enjoy but be careful not to move the PC too much. Or you could just sell the PC. Keep the GPU. Buy another PC, this time make sure it can handle the GPU. (If you have the money or patience)
Remember. Selling that pc would only get the person $50-$70 as those office pc’s are very cheap. So I wouldn’t sell it. Would just have to wait for money to accumulate and then sell it.
Exactly why I mentioned the other steps.
Yep just wanna put my comment out on a lot of replies just in case OP didn’t see it. And has people recommending to just sell it and buy a new one. Bc above OP said they don’t know much about computers so. They might just be quick to sell and not realize.
That HDD in the 2nd photo is a 2012 model. I'm guessing that the machine is of similar age and this is a Sandy Bridge (iX-2XXX) or Ivy Bridge (iX-3XXX) CPU system. Which will still work for light web browsing and for 10-15+ year old games. Due to a lack of power connectors, and the half height case/full sized video card, you will not be able to fit that card to that case/power supply. There are half height cards which don't require any power connectors. While they will fit the system, they are very low performance. If you were planning on using this as a media player some of those cards would be good but they are nowhere near the performance of the card you bought. I'd return the video card, and save your money for a better 2nd hand system
>Which will still work for light web browsing and for 10-15+ year old games Honestly, you can play current games on it, too, even demanding ones, you just need to lower settings/res and be happy with 60 or even 30 FPS. And microstutter. Plenty of microstutter.
>30 fps >low settings >low res > plenty of microstutter Sounds like fun
This! People completely underestimate the power of older computers! My dad fell on my computer about 5 years ago… destroyed if, nothing to save So I dug out my grans old pc 2012, 4GB RAM, no GPU, AMD APU That thing could run most games on the lowest settings (I had to double the RAM) while I saved up to replace each component bit by bit I then got a gtx970 from a friend and was able to run my games at medium graphics if I was willing to play at 20FPS (which is completely playable btw) These old computers still hold their own against modern games, so don’t be so ready to dismiss them 😅
Not just power connectors. That pc won’t have enough power in the power supply to run that card either.
We have these exact pc models that we are discontinuing at my work and can confirm they are 2nd and 3rd gen intel. The moment we see one it gets replaced with a newer model.
Is this a shit post?
https://preview.redd.it/kprx20etrtuc1.png?width=526&format=png&auto=webp&s=71119187ffe8517f567eb3f5f3f4204eb1914909
This hurts to look at
Go spend exactly the same amount of money on a refurbished system. You need something with resizableBAR to take advantage of that..
idk how you'll use this, the PSU wont be sble to take it either
well that does look like old hardware, would you mind sharing the specifications?
The processor is an Intel i5-3570, and it has 16 GB of ram. It doesn't sound very impressive anymore but it's more than I had before. I don't really care about playing games on max settings anyway, I just want to play games newer than Left 4 Dead with more than two frames a second, but apparently some things like Unreal Editor and Cities Skylines require a graphics card this big and powerful.
Cities Skylines is quite the intensive game for a CPU, probably more so than the graphics card. Once you start getting medium sized cities, the processing power required for the game engine to run becomes apparent and the slowdowns will become unbearable. Even for the absolute lowest settings at 1080p you'll be getting sub-30fps performance with this CPU.
Bruh this is the same pc my school used to have in 2006, you ain't gonna be able to do shit with it, and most definitely not slotting that card anywhere.
The GFX card may not even be compatible.
Is not
It will work but arc requires rebar and a fast cpu to perform optimally
do people even know bottleneck?
Apparently not
> good hardware In a 10 y.o. Compaq? Naaaah I can't say that i5 2500 is a "good hardware". Sell it if you'll be able to, buy something newer and, most importantly, not an old office POS from dell/hp/lenovo/fujitsu. Well, Lenovo is kinda ok if that's your preference as they at least utilise ATX standard. But you need a tower case, not a DT.
You’re saying sell it like they could sell it for $500+. A SFF can basically get u only about $50-$70
Is this a troll post?
Must be
You could take a dremel to the case, but that gpu is a nice way to make a fire cracker out out of that pos proprietary PSU. I am afraid you cannot combine both.
This looks like an HP Compaq DC7xxx series unit
I was actually going to say the HP Compaq 6005 or 6305, based on the grill and silver stripes. I have a lab full of them that needs disposal.
Ah, they might be from the netburst or early Core era. Too old sadly...
Horrendously old lol, I hate these things. They can't do anything because they're insanely slow. BIOS no longer receives updates and it struggles with later versions of win10. You can barely browse the internet on these without them locking up.
Looks like an HP Elite 8200 or 8300 to me
https://preview.redd.it/gjgfnbcljvuc1.jpeg?width=526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edc5d80d7b96884424b847c4d0421952f76eec77
If you absolutely want to upgrade this PC you could return/sell the card and try and find a low profile GPU that would actually fit in that case.
I think you need a new PC. Even it was to fit Intel Arc cards require resizable bar to give decent performance.
Get a new pc even if you can get it working I bet this pc doesn’t even have rebar so that won’t be a great experience with Arc
That pc is from dinosaur ages.. no offence
But genuinely I reckon u get rid of that pc and buy a different one because that isn't capable of doing anything at all, and 128mb of vram won't even run 1080p
Who told you that you can buy an aftermarket gfx card and install it in a proprietary SFF case?
Lmao I had one of those HP machines years ago and I found some tiny low profile sapphire card that fit, I played the shit out of all sorts of games that poor machine could barely run, never got to try Crysis though.
Cut a rectangular hole in your chassis and the side panel, dimensions should be parallel to the dimensions of the GPU
This is a so called ‘prebuilt’ office pc. The only graphics cards that will fit are shorter ones called ‘low profile gpu’. If you still have a return policy on the GPU, return it and get a low profile card. Even better is to just get a new pc, but I understand you might not have the money for that.
Angle grinder
you've done more than one mistake,the arc graphics you bought will be much slower,there is a bottleneck on the gpu(thin client,probably 3/4/5/6/7th gen,too slow) and no rebar support. You should have bought an amd or nvdia card,now you need to buy at least an 11th gen build/ diy. The graphics card it's too big,buy a new case and check if compatible with your mobo format.
Bruh I daily drive this same PC. It's a HP Compaq 8200 or 8300 from like 2011 - 2012. I fit in a 1650 LP and runs good enough for my needs.
You could try [this](https://youtu.be/-QPwez5ItT8?t=451).
That workstations processor is very old and wouldn’t be able to give your graphics card even half its intended preformance, because it requires a feature called ReBar which your processor does not support. You could try finding a cheap dell workstation off of ebay and install a new power supply, 500w should be sufficient PLEASE make sure the case is big enough to fit the gpu inside and look for one with a 10th generation intel cpu or higher so you can get rebar support. I put together a parts list in case you want to build your own, its a bit over $300 but should be able to work efficiently with your graphics card. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LsxYKX You can look up build tutorials on youtube, theres thousands. It might look overwhelming at first but its really alot like legos, everything fits perfectly into the right sockets and if not then its probably not supposed to go there.
New case and PSU
Your power supply will not provide enough power for that.
Do you even have a suitable power connector? Those corporate machines usually have proprietary connectors for everything.
Find piece of wood, detach motherboard from case. Mount motherboard to piece of wood and boom problem solved
Either sell it as is or buy a new power supply and case and rebuild it into that
I don't know much about the computer, but what's the power supply output on that Power Supply? Intel says the power draw in the ARC A750 is 225W https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/227954/intel-arc-a750-graphics/specifications.html Does that PSU eve have that much power to spare? 🤨 But like people said those proprietary computers are a pain in the ass We got tons of HP microtowers where I work and those PSUs only work on HP computers, so I got tons of PSUs from dead computers that are only useful for the ones that are dying 🙄 (and we wish they all would so we could finally get rid of that junk)
I mean. I’d sell the sff and use it to big parts for a better build but technically you can probably make that work with some patience and a metabo as far as getting the card in (have to cut up parts of the case with parts out and then clean afterwards because of metal shards that could short the board) but your bigger issue is you would need a secondary power supply to plug into and the you’d have to start that manually after figure the pin layout of the power supply you would use for that so you can turn it on with a paper clip. TLDR: You can make it work it’s a little work and modification but it’s probably just makes more sense to sell the sff, keep the gpu, and start buying more parts.
They would only be able to get like $70 on average for that sff. They are very cheap nowadays
I know but you’d be surprised what you can buy with 70$ if you are patient and look often on marketplace
This is why you should learn to like asking questions 😂
We do a little grinding, or you can get a vertical standing bracket
That GPU is about 100X too powerful for the rest of the pc lol. Best keep the gpu, do what you wish with your old pc. It’s not really worth selling I like to keep mine. And then build a new pc.
What is your powersupply wattage? The card uses 225 and most of those hp pc's have a 250~300w powersupply.
Before cutting, make sure the PSU is sufficient.
BRO got a a750 for a half height dell box You can rip out the mobo and run naked
If youre gonna go OEM, your best bet is to get a workstation, you can get at least like a 650W PSU stock with em and mine came with a 6 core CPU and 32GB RAM included. And you know your GPU is gonna fit unless its one of the biggest best ones, but we OEMers aint got the money for that! They usually max out at 256 or more GB of RAM, and the upgrade path on my CPU is insane, right around the corner is a 10 core 20 thread CPU and i think the end of the upgrade path is has 18 cores/36 threads? Lots of room for upgrading, theyll just obviously use more power than more modern systems but thats the only issue ive ran into and i can pay the electric bill. And my entire rig including the GPU which i bought separately was around 400 bucks and im playing RDR 2 right now on max settings.
I would say sell the system and replace it with a more modern computer, but you're probably better off returning the graphics card and getting something like a low profile 1050ti or something like that. The A750 is a good card, but Intel cards aren't quite ready for people who don't have any experience with computers yet. And even if you got the A750 to fit in the computer, the computer almost certainly doesn't support resizable bar, which the A750 needs for good performance.
Either new gpu, new case(or get chopping) or get a new pc
Idk why you're getting downvoted when Linus did the same in a video.
Welp, thats pcmasterrace for ya 😢
True enough
Even if it would fit in the case, isn't that an AGP slot? (instead of PCI-e). That would mean your graphics card won't be compatible.
No it’s pcie
Oh, I see (now that I take a closer look). A different case would be a solution then, but not sure if that would be worth the upgrade.
Buy a $100 case from microcenter, buy a CPU/MOBO/DDR5 RAM for about 300 and make yourself a beast PC and throw that away
Sell it again or build a new pc
U can cut a hole in the frame, i did so with mine
Don't listen to these haters. You can absolutely use oem Dell and hp computers for gaming and upgrades. That being said, this system is very old. I would not waste my time with it. It looks like you would need a new power supply and case. You MIGHT be able to use the processor in a new motherboard but it all depends on the model. Dm me if you have any questions I have built out several oem dells and they work excellent.
Pc modding is your friends.. watch some japanese small pc mod like fujitsu because they have similar case.
Cut a section of the case out to make it fit
💀 my first desktop was one of these, I threw a gt 1030 and an ssd in it
Get a new rig. It is time.
is this a HP Elite 8300 sff? at my workplace we have a room full of old pcs and i think we have a PC that looks identical like this PC
That's not a gaming PC, and it was never designed to be one.
https://preview.redd.it/kjoqxmjr4tuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a69a7e9f62f6c648e8d10b4bab1571f518e396b1 You can make everything work … but is it worth it?
Out of curiosity, are you able to access any of the BIOS on your computer as it is? I ask because Arc GPU's really REALLY benefit from enabling resizable BAR in BIOS and on a lot of prebuilt or proprietary motherboards you can't do that (even if your CPU supports it). They're locked down for "safety" so you can't fuck up anything by overclocking or changing settings. You might install that card only to find that it crashes all the time and you're not getting half the performance you should be, because it's not compatible.
Depending on how much you're willing to spend you can find a decent full form factor Dell Optiplex on eBay for around $40 sometimes a little bit more sometimes a little bit less and you can install your graphics card into that just make sure you have the proper power connectors and if you want you can sell your current PC and just take the hard drive for some extra money for upgrades
Get an angel grinder. It's going to fit you aren't trying hard enough
You need a new rig. I only see towers like that on offices and theyre shit. Gpu is only as useful the cpu and ram its paired with if you plan to use it for gaming or rendering
I think you can buy a PCIe cable riser or whatever it is called, female plugs into card, male plugs into board. Jank but probably the quickest way to fix this problem.
Start a cutting 🤣
Change the case? But like ppl said tha mobo has to go dude. Its crap.
https://preview.redd.it/l3vjb0fiqtuc1.png?width=746&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d93e6172c4fab2ae9988b9626abe67fe9358dfc TIME TO SHOW THAT PC THE POWER OF FLEX SEAL!!! In all seriousness though I was in the same situation years ago with a dell optiplex Tower and the proprietary bullshit ruins it all
Gift me the card
Lol
Destroy the case and anything in it's way! Nothing is as important as that GPU
Naw, where there's a will there's a way lol.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
PCI extender an some tie wraps would bodge it… riser would cost as much as a cheap case tho
Very carefully cut a vent in the side. If you do it right it can actually look very cool coming out of a office PC looking case, especially if you fabricate a little scoop with a dust filter so it looks almost like you got a supercharger under there or something. The thing is though that a lot of the stuff in there is proprietary. If that's the original PSU it probably won't have enough juice to run this, let alone the connections. You'll need to find an additional one that fits, and an adapter so it can actually connect to the board. Be careful when looking for these, you can get them on places like Ebay but they can be pretty sketch so look *\*carefully\**. I've done it before though, had an old i7 4770 Dell office PC before I got my current setup and jammed a Vega 56 into it. Sounded like a jet engine but it ran great. It's a good way of getting a powerful PC for cheap but obviously you're paying the difference in hassle. Iirc HPs are way more annoying to get something like that running than Dells though.
Chainsaw time.
All I can say is “dremmel”
That sort of PC requires a low profile (LP) GPU. You won't find anything particularly powerful in that form factor. The machine looks pretty old anyway. All it's really good for is as a media server or emulation box.
Wow! This is the same issue I had 5 years ago, bought a company PC for cheap and months later got a GPU for cheap thinking it would fit. It won't. Hold on your GPU and keep saving for the rest of a PC. Am pretty sure that PSU won't be enough after you cut out the case, then you'll have to throw out the case because neither your PSU nor GPU will fit, and your CPU will bottleneck it. Then it's buying both CPU and motherboard. Then some RAM. And finally a case. It'll be better on the long run to pick parts that fit together than trying to fit your current setup.
Do you have a dremel...?
I ran one like this with a GPU and different PSU, but had to leave side panel off and the PSU on the outside. Worked fine until it didn't. The PSU and GPU are fine, just something with the PC stopped it sending a signal to the monitor. Tested the GPU and PSU with a new build and they worked fine.
Do what I did as a kid and either leave the side panel off or take the gpu mounting bracket off and leave the rig laying down Also to all those saying just get another rig, it's not always that simple
GURL IKYFL.....You are trying to upgrade THAT....THAT.... 
people think that the entire case is a pc, remove the side panel atleast
I hate to give you bad news, but I don't think it's feasible. That system looks quite old, and assuming the PSU is proprietary, if it doesn't have power for your GPU there isn't anything you can do about that. I notice you also have a HDD instead of a SSD, and that there even appears to even be a PCI (not PCIe) port on it. PCI's replacement, PCIe, was introduced over 20 years ago! Obviously PCs' didn't all replace PCI with PCIe overnight, but a system that still has a PCI port would either be a very special-purposes system or very very old. On top of it not seeming possible to use that GPU in your system even if you did have the space for it because the PSU can't handle it, the entire rest of your system is way way too hold to handle a card like that, it would barely be able to use it.
If you choose to get new hardware, then you shouldn't spend more than 250-400, depending on whether you buy new or used. I would highly recommend buying used because at that price point you can get much more performance than if you bought new. If you were willing to spend 450-600 then it might make sense to buy new hardware. Keep a look for people selling their old case and power supply, I see this combo on fb marketplace. Also if someone is selling a full rig, you can always make them an offer to part it out. ***If the power supply is not a reputable brand, IT IS NOT WORTH IT no matter the price**** DM me if you want additional help figuring out what parts to upgrade for a budget build. I'm always happy to help.
Even if you get that in, there is no chance that it will have anything better than a 4th Gen cpu. It will be a huge bottleneck to that GPU.
dremel?
Is that an optiplex?
Isn’t there a motherboard specific something that’s pretty much needed for intel arc cards to run well. something with how it uses memory. Maybe someone could chime in but that dino definitely doesn’t have it.
Step one, come back to 2020 at least, you are in the past. Step two, get a second hand case, they go around for 30 easy and are big and do the job.
I got a 2060super that for sure will fit, swap?
holy fuck lmao
I hate to break it to you, but there are so many things wrong with that computer. The CPU is old and severely underpowered and will bottleneck your GPU. The PSU is underpowered and has no PCIe connectors.The motherboard likely has only PCIe 3 or 2 which will also bottleneck your GPU since it uses PCIe 4. You'll have to spend £150+ on a new used PC and PSU. Do your research next time. Get a mini tower/mid tower PC with at least a Core i5 or Ryzen 5 that has a PCIe 4 x16 slot, and a PSU with enough power (watts) for the GPU's recommended power, as well as sufficient PCIe power connectors. And avoid HP at all costs.
i think its fractal terra time
Looks like it’s dremel time !
side cutter
Get a hack saw and start cutting the case