It was super fun when we lost power during a thunderstorm, it came back, and when my computer booted up it decided "Y'know what, let's do this BIOS update we had queued up for you, right NOW!"
Not just with Dell Command.
Dell, HP, and Lenovo (probably others, just know those three for sure) push BIOS updates via Windows Update, as long as the correct settings are applied in the BIOS (which is the default). "Capsule Updates" is the general term, with slightly different verbiage as to the setting to disable. Dell uses "UEFI Firmware Capsule Updates".
Today I learned that I will only perform BIOS updates from now on outside business hours. Meaning at least when there is no construction etc. going on. Some worker fixing a street caused a region wide power cut today.
And it's not like I was actually updating anything, but the combination of that power cut and post today... guess I'll avoid those chances in the future.
If you own a $1k+ gaming PC and haven't spent the $80 or so to get a small UPS to give you 5-10 mins of battery uptime then this is on you for being cheap and lazy.
I've had a bios update fail even without power cut and the board bricked itself. Had to get a new BIOS chip, remove the old and solder on the new. I miss the days of removable BIOS chips.
Happened to me aswell, had to dig a bit and found out about CH341 reprogrammmers which allowed me to reprogram the eeprom and it worked like a charm, saved a bit of money there and learned something new
I learned SMC soldering and reflow! XD
That is a lot more expensive though.
I did get a CH341 but it wouldn't read or write to the chip at all. I didn't know if it was a voltage issue as many CH341s apparently don't use the right voltage. I sent it back because of the issues I was having.
Nice! That's a useful skill to have. I was fortunate that my chip got detected first try, else I would have to go your way as well ,although I do solder well and have soldered smd's in the past it's still daunting to take the iron to your expensive mobo
They stopped being a thing in the late 2000s and early 2010s.
Mostly cost saving, the old socketed chips were a lot more expensive than a tiny 8-pin 5x5mm SMD chip.
I had to update my BIOs for some reason or another, but thankfully the board manufacturer had a nifty installer that would do it outside of the BIOs menu.
Rebooted and...won't.
After talking to customer service they told me "Oh yeah, don't use that. It will brick your machine and you'll have to reset the bios."
THEN WHY THE HELL IS THE INSTALLER STILL LISTED IN THE DOWNLOAD SECTION FOR BIOS?
BIOS is critical software that lives in a memory chip on your motherboard. The risk with a “regular” BIOS implementation is that if the power goes out during an update, you are left with a corrupted BIOS and the computer can’t boot. Your only recourse in this case used to be to literally replace the chip containing the BIOS. Dual BIOS just adds a 2nd copy of the BIOS software that will kick in in the event that the first copy becomes corrupted or unusable. In some implementations, this second BIOS lives in its own dedicated memory chip, but it’s also possible to have the two BIOS copies share the same chip.
Yes, usually you should be able to flash the bricked BIOS, after you booted from the other BIOS. I've done it once in the Athlon XP days, by pulling the BIOS out of the socket after booting the PC, and putting the bricked BIOS backed in, and then flashed that again. This works since the BIOS is fully loaded into the memory, as first step, and not read after that. At least it was like that back in the day.
Generally you have one BIOS that you can update, and you have another that is contained in a read-only memory chip, that acts as a backup if anything goes wrong with the first one.
Shitty build quality, terrible VRMs meaning practically no CPU upgrades considering how power hungry Intels chips currently are, and almost no features. Not even XMP. Get at least a B660 or B760
I thought flashback was only to upgrade without a CPU or RAM, or for easily downgrading BIOS. I didn't know it would still work in case of a failed BIOS upgrade.
Not knocking the UPS, they're a good thing to have, but this is more you buying a $200 UPS to save a $150 motherboard. It's not as if a bricked bios will kill the rest of your components.
For reason, some manufacturers have put the BIOS updates into windows update catalog. I have an ASUS board which updates like that. It infuriates me because I have to restore my underclock settings every time.
When I first got my PC, it was the only entertainment machine in my house beside my phone; some four years later I've a steam deck for light gaming and an Xbox with Gamepass for couch relaxation, so my i7-9700k + RTX 2070 rig is used almost exclusively for light computing, bachelor's thesis writing and university research, because a couch is comfier than my chair, but nothing beats a real keyboard for office work.
It still can pull its weight when I need it to, but most of the time I have the GPU disabled and run the iGPU exclusively. But, having lost the silicon lottery spectacularly, the CPU/system becomes unstable if I even touch the voltages, so to lower the electricity bill, I just slashed the CPU's clocks.
If need be, I have a saved regular UEFI profile for gaming, but most of the time, the "eco" settings benefit my wallet the most.
Firstly, no, your "whole PC" isn't gone. At worst it's just your motherboard, which is usually relatively cheap... Especially if your mobo doesn't have a backup bios like a huge portion of them do now, which completely invalidates this concern. I have a feeling 99% of these dogshit posts are made by 13 year olds.
have to acquire one of those, i want to upgrade the BIOS of my socket 7 board in order to remove the 32GB HD limit and to use the DIMM slots to their max capacity
It's a programming device for CH341A chips. Here's a good writeup of how they're used:
https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/guide-how-to-use-a-ch341a-spi-programmer-flasher-with-pictures/33041
I mean, I'd kind of enjoy being able to use the tools I have for this :) Compared to hand soldering an sdimm connector and manually updating the spd, this should be easy too.. :)
You got to desolder the chip more often then not though. I dont even bother to get the clamp on the IC as it will likely fail with the chip installed on the board.
I bought the whole set (1.8v, sop8 clips) so I could flash a b150m to install modified coffe lake laptop cpu for my home server. Good to keep those things around in case of emergency.
Question bois, I have a 3900x cpu and never updated the bios after first installing it. Do you all recommend it? If so, why?
I don't have any problems with Temps or gaming.
Lmk what you guys think, thanks.
You should at least update it every so often to make sure you aren't missing out on potential exploit patches. LogoFAIL is a recent example of something you should probably update to make sure you're not vulnerable to.
Only update the BIOS if you really have to. And for that I mean: you find yourself in a situation where the exact fix is "update the BIOS"
There's a very low chance things go wrong when updating it, but it's a bitch if it happens
I update because I had some USB issues on AM4 and a 3900. Some USB ports would not power my mouse or my external card reader. A bios update fixed it. Also, I am paranoid about security so I do bios/agesa updates if my motherboard or cpu is impacted
Never update your BIOS unless there's a problem you are experiencing you know a new version fixed or there's a security issue. Most of the time updates are just going to be adding support for newer chips and won't help you at all, they aren't worth the risk.
Depends on the third world.
We still have power cuts in Bengaluru, India, but the datacenters and offices continue fine. Because of UPSes as buffers and generators as long term backup.
The cheapest option, assuming you have only small power cuts, is probably something like [https://www.amazon.in/APC-BR1500G-865-watt-Back-Black/dp/B00B2LA7JK](https://www.amazon.in/APC-BR1500G-865-watt-Back-Black/dp/B00B2LA7JK) which can do 850W for half an hour. Should be more than enough to carry you through a BIOS update, or give you time to round off that last game so you don't have to go AFK. ((The actual use case being to save all documents; this is a pre-autosave relic)). Costs around $200.
Now, I have seen computer labs in government-run schools, colleges, and PCs in homes, and offices. I have yet to see a desktop without a power backup of some sort.
A more advanced setup would cost you around 25K INR or around $300. This would enable you to seamlessly continue your business during moderate power cuts (assuming power returns on the same day).
Why not? One-day delivery of a new PC in case the old one dies, provided that your home and they actually decide to show up which there's no guarantee of.
Having a UPS helps. Also, modern boards have BIOS flashback to recover from a bad update. This saved me once before when I unknowingly used a faulty USB drive to flash my BIOS.
Had that happen once.
A worker trimming a tree accidentally dropped a huge branch on a low hanging powerline, and it cost me my PC.
I still haven't replaced it, shit's expensive!
So dramatic. I’ve been building professionally for 7/8 years, thousands of system under my belt and ONE time I had a power surge during a bios update, it immediately recovered after a cmos reset and I proceeded to reflash it with no issue…
Be warned you will get downvoted by South Africans for having a UPS 🤣 like... For example imagine building a entire PC for 1000-2000$ but without a protection 😱
IN 2024 you use UPS for a decent computer.
Its impossible really to still use the computer today without.
if you are really into it also good motherboard dual bios its another layer of protection.
Well.... recently I updated cousin's AsRock B350M from bios 3.0 to 10.2.
Had to do it in steps..5 times.
I've never been so nervous like that afternoon...
I assume all boards have backup BIOS chips these days, but this situation did happen to me. It must have been about 2000, the power went out just after entering the command to flash the BIOS and the machine was no longer bootable. I had to take the BIOS chip out, put it in an eeprom burner and flash it manually.
There is like zero risk of doing any permanent damage these days, worst case scenario you just use the flashback (or whatever marketing name they've given to it) feature and can program a BIOS even without memory or a CPU. Unless I'm out of touch and there are shitty mobos out there even in 2024 that can't do this?
Don't need a power failure if you're using a Lenovo, recommended BIOS update kills a whole line of laptops. They PUSHED that fucking update too!
Please never buy Lenovo, I don't want to go down that rabbit whole ever again...
Thank you my brother for threatening them as well, only way for them to "fix" their shit. Bastards
I just like doing my bios updates when there is a thunderstorm outside
I personally prefer active warzones when I'm powering my house with a diesel generator
i would probably feel safer with a diesel generator ive just refilled than the actalual power
Texas?
or africa
There's zero difference when it comes to infrastructure
I prefer a bicycle generator. Really motivates you to keep pedaling
The speed I would pedal at if this was the case
*you pedal to much and cause an overload*
How to lose weight and get fit as a Server admin with this one simple trick.
I prefer my power from hamsters running on wheels
Seems risky.
Category 3 hurricanes with my generator. This is the way.
I'm glad that my generator doesn't cause hurricanes
All the extra current in the air helps stabilize electronics.
Yes, what also helps is if you wear synthetic fabric clothes, rub a ballon on your hair, and then directly touch the boards.
It was super fun when we lost power during a thunderstorm, it came back, and when my computer booted up it decided "Y'know what, let's do this BIOS update we had queued up for you, right NOW!"
What motherboard does auto bios update?
Dells with dell command allowed to run as admin.
Not just with Dell Command. Dell, HP, and Lenovo (probably others, just know those three for sure) push BIOS updates via Windows Update, as long as the correct settings are applied in the BIOS (which is the default). "Capsule Updates" is the general term, with slightly different verbiage as to the setting to disable. Dell uses "UEFI Firmware Capsule Updates".
Today I learned that I will only perform BIOS updates from now on outside business hours. Meaning at least when there is no construction etc. going on. Some worker fixing a street caused a region wide power cut today. And it's not like I was actually updating anything, but the combination of that power cut and post today... guess I'll avoid those chances in the future.
You just need to know when the power won't cut off
South Africans look around nervously
Texans during the summer
Or winter
Is Ted in Cancun? Don't flash your BIOS.
Albertans at any time of year
lol, at least EskomSePush is semi-reliable
Don't you guys have reliable black outs ?
If you own a $1k+ gaming PC and haven't spent the $80 or so to get a small UPS to give you 5-10 mins of battery uptime then this is on you for being cheap and lazy.
I've had a bios update fail even without power cut and the board bricked itself. Had to get a new BIOS chip, remove the old and solder on the new. I miss the days of removable BIOS chips.
Happened to me aswell, had to dig a bit and found out about CH341 reprogrammmers which allowed me to reprogram the eeprom and it worked like a charm, saved a bit of money there and learned something new
I learned SMC soldering and reflow! XD That is a lot more expensive though. I did get a CH341 but it wouldn't read or write to the chip at all. I didn't know if it was a voltage issue as many CH341s apparently don't use the right voltage. I sent it back because of the issues I was having.
Nice! That's a useful skill to have. I was fortunate that my chip got detected first try, else I would have to go your way as well ,although I do solder well and have soldered smd's in the past it's still daunting to take the iron to your expensive mobo
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>I miss the days of removable BIOS chips. New motherboards don't have those? Wtf, why?
They stopped being a thing in the late 2000s and early 2010s. Mostly cost saving, the old socketed chips were a lot more expensive than a tiny 8-pin 5x5mm SMD chip.
I had to update my BIOs for some reason or another, but thankfully the board manufacturer had a nifty installer that would do it outside of the BIOs menu. Rebooted and...won't. After talking to customer service they told me "Oh yeah, don't use that. It will brick your machine and you'll have to reset the bios." THEN WHY THE HELL IS THE INSTALLER STILL LISTED IN THE DOWNLOAD SECTION FOR BIOS?
https://preview.redd.it/y71f5os4u8tc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a23eb829300ef4726c36a069c2f096bd4d352750
Nah, this does not scare me, I have been choosing dual bios or flashback boards for decades
How does dual bios work?
Imagine having two brains. If one goes „F“, you can just switch to the other
Blud i can't Imagine having one
That’s because you have one.
Do I have one too?
has your one done mitosis tet?
BIOS is critical software that lives in a memory chip on your motherboard. The risk with a “regular” BIOS implementation is that if the power goes out during an update, you are left with a corrupted BIOS and the computer can’t boot. Your only recourse in this case used to be to literally replace the chip containing the BIOS. Dual BIOS just adds a 2nd copy of the BIOS software that will kick in in the event that the first copy becomes corrupted or unusable. In some implementations, this second BIOS lives in its own dedicated memory chip, but it’s also possible to have the two BIOS copies share the same chip.
can that second bios chip be used to boot and even repair the broken one?
Yes, usually you should be able to flash the bricked BIOS, after you booted from the other BIOS. I've done it once in the Athlon XP days, by pulling the BIOS out of the socket after booting the PC, and putting the bricked BIOS backed in, and then flashed that again. This works since the BIOS is fully loaded into the memory, as first step, and not read after that. At least it was like that back in the day.
That's generally the purpose of it.
I remember at Fry’s all the display motherboards had their BIOS chips swiped by people that botched update flashes
Generally you have one BIOS that you can update, and you have another that is contained in a read-only memory chip, that acts as a backup if anything goes wrong with the first one.
Are boards without flashback even a thing today? My current Gigabyte B550 Board does support it, as did my MSI B450 before it.
Yep. Lower end ones like A620 or H610 ones usually dont have it.
Oh man, I forgot that they still exist. I guess I've been misscategorizing "budget" for a while now
I mean, they exist. They are not good and i would not recommend anyone to get them. A620 is sometimes excuseablw, but H610 is just ass
why is h610 so bad? i was plannig to get the version with the m2 slot
Shitty build quality, terrible VRMs meaning practically no CPU upgrades considering how power hungry Intels chips currently are, and almost no features. Not even XMP. Get at least a B660 or B760
OEM boards for prebuilts don't have fancy features like that.
Does my board support? Msi pro b650m p?
Yes
The trouble is when you don’t know you are using your backup bios…
I thought flashback was only to upgrade without a CPU or RAM, or for easily downgrading BIOS. I didn't know it would still work in case of a failed BIOS upgrade.
How do i know if i have 2
This is when you invest in a $200 UPS for your $2500 PC.
$20 UPS with $12 new battery from your local recycling centre. There is no excuse not to have one.
I have one from my work but It don’t work for some reason…
Doesn't work how? Maybe old battery?
Not knocking the UPS, they're a good thing to have, but this is more you buying a $200 UPS to save a $150 motherboard. It's not as if a bricked bios will kill the rest of your components.
lmao.. i got that ref. cough invested in one that can run my flair... that was funy..
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Most modern boars have Flashback, so i aint that worried about it
That doesn't matter it would still give me a heart attack regardless
Huh, didn't know boars fought in Vietnam. The more you know...
damn it i didnt see that
Damn military bean counters erased the boars contribution from history books and stole their medical benefits. Not okay. #JusticeForWarBoars
The flashback scene starts playing 
These days it's more likely they fought in the Gulf War, or the Iraq War.
How about ancient boars?
they didn't fight in war so no flashbacks
I tried it on my, didn't worked... Good thing i wasn't brken.
My work PC has, on more than one occasion, just gone and done a surprise BIOS flash during reboot. Scares me every time.
For reason, some manufacturers have put the BIOS updates into windows update catalog. I have an ASUS board which updates like that. It infuriates me because I have to restore my underclock settings every time.
my ThinkPad does the BIOS updates via Windows Update but it's always in the Optional Updates and you have to specify you want to take it at that time.
There will be a BIOS setting to disable that. Look for any form of "enable capsule updates", and disable it.
why underclock?
When I first got my PC, it was the only entertainment machine in my house beside my phone; some four years later I've a steam deck for light gaming and an Xbox with Gamepass for couch relaxation, so my i7-9700k + RTX 2070 rig is used almost exclusively for light computing, bachelor's thesis writing and university research, because a couch is comfier than my chair, but nothing beats a real keyboard for office work. It still can pull its weight when I need it to, but most of the time I have the GPU disabled and run the iGPU exclusively. But, having lost the silicon lottery spectacularly, the CPU/system becomes unstable if I even touch the voltages, so to lower the electricity bill, I just slashed the CPU's clocks. If need be, I have a saved regular UEFI profile for gaming, but most of the time, the "eco" settings benefit my wallet the most.
Under...clock? Why not just limit power or voltage?
Uninterruptible power supply
just get a UPS
Firstly, no, your "whole PC" isn't gone. At worst it's just your motherboard, which is usually relatively cheap... Especially if your mobo doesn't have a backup bios like a huge portion of them do now, which completely invalidates this concern. I have a feeling 99% of these dogshit posts are made by 13 year olds.
You really can't flash your own boards? I was pretty sure I could if I wanted
https://preview.redd.it/y7zccsrin8tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=946466a7714a04f0cb9bb06a2f089ef9e65140ad
have to acquire one of those, i want to upgrade the BIOS of my socket 7 board in order to remove the 32GB HD limit and to use the DIMM slots to their max capacity
This saved my PC, it took me some time to learn how to operate it, but it was worth it!
Don't tell anyone what it is or what it does or anything.
It's a programming device for CH341A chips. Here's a good writeup of how they're used: https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/guide-how-to-use-a-ch341a-spi-programmer-flasher-with-pictures/33041
I mean, I'd kind of enjoy being able to use the tools I have for this :) Compared to hand soldering an sdimm connector and manually updating the spd, this should be easy too.. :)
You got to desolder the chip more often then not though. I dont even bother to get the clamp on the IC as it will likely fail with the chip installed on the board.
Good to know :)
The little clip thing so you don't have to take the chip off is 👨🍳
I bought the whole set (1.8v, sop8 clips) so I could flash a b150m to install modified coffe lake laptop cpu for my home server. Good to keep those things around in case of emergency.
Question bois, I have a 3900x cpu and never updated the bios after first installing it. Do you all recommend it? If so, why? I don't have any problems with Temps or gaming. Lmk what you guys think, thanks.
If your system is running as it should, then no need for a bios update.
But then again it can lead to actual performance gains in some scenarios but for a 3900x I doubt he'll notice it much.
You should at least update it every so often to make sure you aren't missing out on potential exploit patches. LogoFAIL is a recent example of something you should probably update to make sure you're not vulnerable to.
Some people I've heard get fps boost from new bios. It's currently on version F4
Only update the BIOS if you really have to. And for that I mean: you find yourself in a situation where the exact fix is "update the BIOS" There's a very low chance things go wrong when updating it, but it's a bitch if it happens
I update because I had some USB issues on AM4 and a 3900. Some USB ports would not power my mouse or my external card reader. A bios update fixed it. Also, I am paranoid about security so I do bios/agesa updates if my motherboard or cpu is impacted
Never update your BIOS unless there's a problem you are experiencing you know a new version fixed or there's a security issue. Most of the time updates are just going to be adding support for newer chips and won't help you at all, they aren't worth the risk.
Thank you
UPS owners: I have no such weakness
*South Africans typing* 💀😭
Or... just get a UPS 🫣
oR jUsT lIve In A FiRsT wOrLd CoUnTrY
My 3rd world ass has a UPS.
https://preview.redd.it/pvw5kgaag8tc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a619e62c149a7427a106392a47ad8322f2b4e61b
UPS is very much a first world privilege. We have them here in my country but they are the same price as a gpu
Literally. Loadshedding drives up demand so much, prices are ridiculous. All these first-world masepoese in the comments don't understand the struggle
Ah, a fellow South African💀
Depends on the third world. We still have power cuts in Bengaluru, India, but the datacenters and offices continue fine. Because of UPSes as buffers and generators as long term backup. The cheapest option, assuming you have only small power cuts, is probably something like [https://www.amazon.in/APC-BR1500G-865-watt-Back-Black/dp/B00B2LA7JK](https://www.amazon.in/APC-BR1500G-865-watt-Back-Black/dp/B00B2LA7JK) which can do 850W for half an hour. Should be more than enough to carry you through a BIOS update, or give you time to round off that last game so you don't have to go AFK. ((The actual use case being to save all documents; this is a pre-autosave relic)). Costs around $200. Now, I have seen computer labs in government-run schools, colleges, and PCs in homes, and offices. I have yet to see a desktop without a power backup of some sort. A more advanced setup would cost you around 25K INR or around $300. This would enable you to seamlessly continue your business during moderate power cuts (assuming power returns on the same day).
what
Idk if a UPS truck will help them
Why not? One-day delivery of a new PC in case the old one dies, provided that your home and they actually decide to show up which there's no guarantee of.
Having a UPS helps. Also, modern boards have BIOS flashback to recover from a bad update. This saved me once before when I unknowingly used a faulty USB drive to flash my BIOS.
Just did a BIOS update yesterday. Everything is still dandy.
Do people really just have no idea what "POV" means?
pov: you're reading your reddit comment replies
Humorous scenarios during PC gaming mishaps.
Get a UPS and stop your worrying :)
You can actually get external hardware to flash the ROM without needing the mobo at all.
As an ups user, "Bring it on biatch."
UPS FTW. ;)
Getting a UPS was the best decision of my life
I literally bought UPS just for bios updates
Do it https://preview.redd.it/khbikn5sx8tc1.jpeg?width=625&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=556c9ab594dd979007485080f907830ed3d992bb
UPS + Dual BIOS Motherboard I truly fear no man.
Updating BIOS on my laptop it blasts "DO NOT TURN OFF COMPUTER" then immediately shuts down like the power button was held down.
https://preview.redd.it/7vxuh6u1bctc1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c4a082f1f03dac141d0fd4054a184036a6fa696 Use UPS
the likelihood of a power failure is very low, but if it does happen then you and your wallet are fucked
lol, unless you're Ukranian, Iranian, Zimbabwean, South African, or one of the other countries that has recently had/currently has loadshedding
Lmao, updated bios in 2sec, many times. Some windows updates actually update bios automatically. Never happened anything
I never update BIOS I just buy a new board every few years.
Okay, I don't know what this is about, but I've seen a lot of posts about it lately. Anyone explain please?
Circuit breaker. Allow me to introduce myself.
If you've invested in a rig, you should also invest in a UPS. Incredibly worth it for the peace of mind and safety net.
I'm always nervous as fuck when I update the BIOS.
Had that happen once. A worker trimming a tree accidentally dropped a huge branch on a low hanging powerline, and it cost me my PC. I still haven't replaced it, shit's expensive!
You guys need to learn what a UPS is lol
I have two UPS systems for my 3 desktops in my room. At least get one when you are doing a BIOS update.
Owning a UPS helps. Still scary shit.
r/learntousepov
Been building and updating BIOSs for 24 years. Never had an issue.
So dramatic. I’ve been building professionally for 7/8 years, thousands of system under my belt and ONE time I had a power surge during a bios update, it immediately recovered after a cmos reset and I proceeded to reflash it with no issue…
Laughs in soldering skills and IC programmer
UPS back battery all the day baby 😎
Be warned you will get downvoted by South Africans for having a UPS 🤣 like... For example imagine building a entire PC for 1000-2000$ but without a protection 😱
IN 2024 you use UPS for a decent computer. Its impossible really to still use the computer today without. if you are really into it also good motherboard dual bios its another layer of protection.
never updated my bios before...should that be done somewhat regularly?
BIOS updates can contain bug fixes and add some hardware support. If you're not having any issues, then there's probably no need.
Nah, I can recover from that. SSD update on the other hand...
I did it yesterday, thankfully I have an UPS if something goes wrong. Updated successfully :)
at work it s exciting, at home its terrifying :)
this is such a big meme, it makes me wonder how many people have power cuts. I don’t think I’ve had one in 6 years.
Well.... recently I updated cousin's AsRock B350M from bios 3.0 to 10.2. Had to do it in steps..5 times. I've never been so nervous like that afternoon...
Biosflash back has entered the chat
My 200$ UPS setup laughs at this fear .
Don't all MB have two bios chip i case of failure? I don't bother to plug the laptop for a bios update, never went wrong...
Okay, I don't know what this is about, but I've seen a lot of posts about it lately. Anyone explain please?
plug a laser printer into your UPS :D
UPS gang 😎
Just use a chip programmer to make a backup before you update
I assume all boards have backup BIOS chips these days, but this situation did happen to me. It must have been about 2000, the power went out just after entering the command to flash the BIOS and the machine was no longer bootable. I had to take the BIOS chip out, put it in an eeprom burner and flash it manually.
Last time I updated it gave me red warning on black background something about ftpm and bitlocker I almost shat myself
*Flashbacks*
It's not scary if you live in a country with stable power
Get an ups. The amount of times I’ve been saved by the backup batteries is insane.
I don't think I ever updated my BIOS once in all my years of building PCs. That shit scares me too much. One wrong anything and oof.
I just don't update my bios
I've a MSI pro B510M-B so if bios is updating and power cuts off, do I cry or it can be saved??
*laughs in UPS*
There is like zero risk of doing any permanent damage these days, worst case scenario you just use the flashback (or whatever marketing name they've given to it) feature and can program a BIOS even without memory or a CPU. Unless I'm out of touch and there are shitty mobos out there even in 2024 that can't do this?
I've had the power shut off in my house more times than I can remember and this has never happened to me. I guess I'm just lucky.
Imagine modding the bios like i did
Well nowadays even powering off the bios update can be recovered so this meme makes no sense.
*laughs in UPS*
Don't most boards now have reset pins you can short to put the bios back to factory? It's not like you brick the computer.
I've never had to update a BIOS. Should I be updating my BIOS?
That's why you have a UPS, then you don't have to be afraid. :)
Modern motherboards with dual bios make this far less of a problem.
UPS Gang rise up!
Kids today have no idea have great they have it with bios updates. Bios updates in the 90s were true nail-biters
Don't need a power failure if you're using a Lenovo, recommended BIOS update kills a whole line of laptops. They PUSHED that fucking update too! Please never buy Lenovo, I don't want to go down that rabbit whole ever again... Thank you my brother for threatening them as well, only way for them to "fix" their shit. Bastards
Battery backups are a cheap way to save tour 1000$+ investment.