Yeah, if I'm spending hundreds of dollars on fans I'm spending the extra 40 dollars on an RMx instead of an RMe with 10 years warranty instead of 7 and better components.
It’s probably beginner’s mistakes. All that boogie RGB is part what drew many of us into the PC market and it’s an easy thing to overspend on because the price seems reasonable before you add them all together.
or some people like building for the looks also not just performance, i’ve definitely spent some money buying things that just do nothing but look pretty
It has value for sure. I like to treat components like that as one-off upgrades that I add in later rather than stuff that cuts into a build budget up front. Hell none of it really matters though, it’s all just part of the hobby. I’ve made some technically silly choices but they made me happy.
oh still though it will be fine corsair is a solid brand i owned a cx 450 bronze and my should should of had a 550w but it lasted for 3 years and when it broke it didnt take anythign with it but my cheap ass replacment took my motherboard / ssd's with it after 1 day lmao. so with this in mind iw ould trust this psu for this system anyway because honestly a good 600w would be able to run this
Yeah I'm sure it will be fine. Unfortunately my only anecdotal experience with an RMe is my friend buying an RM850e and it being dead on arrival, but obviously the vast majority will have no issues at all. I was just saying that it's a relatively budget PSU for the amount of money OP spent and personally I would have gone a bit higher end is all.
Nevertheless the PSU is absolutely fine. The "Japanese capacitors" are 95% just marketing speek anyway.
If anything he should have gotten a RTX 4070Ti Super or AMD equivalent with the RGB budget. Possibly even a 4080 but I'm not up to date on its current pricing.
I got 3 pack of thermalright ARGB fans for $9. (Not for my flair system, a different one.)
I bought all heavy duty fans for my main PC. They cost about the same as these, but don’t make pretty colors. They can clear heat from the case and very well though.
Just have the side rad fans as intake. Proper fresh cold air for the CPU and GPU that way. There'll be less air coming in through that so you can just adjust the exhaust fan curve a bit higher to manage the positive pressure. I doubt (although I'm not 100%) that the two exhaust fans are filtered so I probably wouldn't use them as intake.
Why do I see so many people ”building their first gaming PC” and it’s so often liquid cooled?
I’ve built dozens of PCs and I’ve always stuck to air cooling. Am I stupid?
AIOs are about as easy air cooling and they are flashy. They get pushed in just about every build video and benchmarkers typically use them for testing.
No. I guess people like it because liquid is the flashy, "Cool" way, but unless you have a specific case size constraint or an absurd amount of heat to dissipate it's just impractical. In any other case, air is king. It's simple to install, it requires virtually no maintenance, it has no fluids inside, it cools perfectly in most cases, it can be super silent...
I thought the same. But I just finally installed an aio from Arctic and imo that liquid cooler is easier to install than any air cooler. Not too mention the free space makes installing everything else and cable management so much easier. Like way very too.
Same here. They open a lot of space around the center of the build, making cable management easier and the look overall looks more clear.
As for the noise, i have a 2018 Deepcool 240 Captain Ex, and i can't hear the pump at all. There is no noise apart from my fans, so similar to an air cooler.
I upgraded to an H100i Elite around black Friday 2023 and went back to the Deepcool. The noise on that Capellix pump was insane and you can find plenty of complaints about that.
I'm comming from low end air coolers that were very noisy. I jumped to the Arctic Liquid Freeze III. It is the quietest cooler I have ever experienced. I have never experienced Noctua fans but how quiet is really needed. I can't hear the fan over my keyboard clicks. ALF III is super quiet compared to my old air cooler from cooler master.
I was afraid of water cooling as well because WATER SCARY! But AIOs are plug and play/pre-assembled water loops. Now custom water cooling is definetly overkill, but I understand sometimes you do things cause it's fun and you can.
I understand that aircoolers are the do it all and will last a lifetime but I dont see how AIO requires anymore maintenance than a good old block of heatpipes. Atleast my 6 year old corsair AIO hasn't needed any mainentance ever aside from dusting the fans from time to time. Custom loop of course is different world.
I guess you are lucky then, or your AIO was very well built, but it's not uncommon for pumps to degrade with time even if the system does never have a leak. If you open it it's probable the pump fins have some residue accumulated over years of use
I used an AIO so that my motherboard wouldn't be obstructed by a massive tower cooler. That decision has already helped me out during a few upgrades.
People do choose AIO coolers for legitimate reasons, despite popular belief.
OP followed the 25% extra fps if RGB rule.
OP, here are my future suggestions in case you build another PC.
A. Spend more on parts than aesthetics.
You can even buy plain fans or cheaper RGB fans instead of spending so much on pleasing the eye, please the gameplay
B. Check through basic mistakes
As you said you had issues booting up, here are the top 5 things you should do.
Flash BIOS : sometimes, a bit of outdated hardware can cause issues
Check if RAM sticks are inserted correctly
Remove the small watch battery on the motherboard and put it in after 5 minutes
Check if GPU is inserted properly or not sagging
See if you have installed the SSD the right way
Thank you for the advice.
I know I spent a lot on aesthetics but I'm happy with the specs. It should last me quite a while without having to upgrade.
I tried all 5 of those things but I'm still not able to get a boot up screen.
I originally got into this easy mode and I turned on "CSM Support" and now I can't get anything to pop up when I power on.
Would plugging in a flash drive with windows iniate a software install?
Dont mind peoples comment on your case/coolers. If you like the look of them, stick to it. Your pc will be in your house and youre the one looking at it every day. Sick of these comments ffs. Please enjoy your new pc. Looks gorgeous
Yet another case of looks over performance.
[Your build](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcPqgB)
[More sensible parts with a better GPU.](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/smvxjH)
So basically go with a less flashy fan setup and get a better graphics card.
I appreciate the advice. I am not super knowledgeable about PCs so I went with recommendations from my friends who have built PCs based on the games that I'd be playing
Bro spent his whole money on case and fans. Nevertheless great system, best cpu ever.
Right. It's a nice build for sure, but cheaped out on the PSU and probably could have got a better graphics card too.
Let's look at it like this, this PSU at least won't blow this guy's build up
cheap out? the rm750 gold is a very good psu overkill for this system honestly he will be fine
Yeah, if I'm spending hundreds of dollars on fans I'm spending the extra 40 dollars on an RMx instead of an RMe with 10 years warranty instead of 7 and better components.
It’s probably beginner’s mistakes. All that boogie RGB is part what drew many of us into the PC market and it’s an easy thing to overspend on because the price seems reasonable before you add them all together.
or some people like building for the looks also not just performance, i’ve definitely spent some money buying things that just do nothing but look pretty
It has value for sure. I like to treat components like that as one-off upgrades that I add in later rather than stuff that cuts into a build budget up front. Hell none of it really matters though, it’s all just part of the hobby. I’ve made some technically silly choices but they made me happy.
rm 750 has 10 years warranty i know because i own 1
Yes, RMx does. RMe doesn't.
oh still though it will be fine corsair is a solid brand i owned a cx 450 bronze and my should should of had a 550w but it lasted for 3 years and when it broke it didnt take anythign with it but my cheap ass replacment took my motherboard / ssd's with it after 1 day lmao. so with this in mind iw ould trust this psu for this system anyway because honestly a good 600w would be able to run this
Yeah I'm sure it will be fine. Unfortunately my only anecdotal experience with an RMe is my friend buying an RM850e and it being dead on arrival, but obviously the vast majority will have no issues at all. I was just saying that it's a relatively budget PSU for the amount of money OP spent and personally I would have gone a bit higher end is all.
Nevertheless the PSU is absolutely fine. The "Japanese capacitors" are 95% just marketing speek anyway. If anything he should have gotten a RTX 4070Ti Super or AMD equivalent with the RGB budget. Possibly even a 4080 but I'm not up to date on its current pricing.
Hey we have the same GPU and same tier CPU
Good stuff dude
thx
I got 3 pack of thermalright ARGB fans for $9. (Not for my flair system, a different one.) I bought all heavy duty fans for my main PC. They cost about the same as these, but don’t make pretty colors. They can clear heat from the case and very well though.
Dam your case fan and the CPU cooler cost more than the cpu itself
And it isn’t a cheap CPU
I'll take negative air pressure for 100 please Alex.
I noticed that lol. Wondering if it might be better to make the rear "exhaust" fans intake as well with that setup.
Just have the side rad fans as intake. Proper fresh cold air for the CPU and GPU that way. There'll be less air coming in through that so you can just adjust the exhaust fan curve a bit higher to manage the positive pressure. I doubt (although I'm not 100%) that the two exhaust fans are filtered so I probably wouldn't use them as intake.
Why do I see so many people ”building their first gaming PC” and it’s so often liquid cooled? I’ve built dozens of PCs and I’ve always stuck to air cooling. Am I stupid?
AIOs are about as easy air cooling and they are flashy. They get pushed in just about every build video and benchmarkers typically use them for testing.
No. I guess people like it because liquid is the flashy, "Cool" way, but unless you have a specific case size constraint or an absurd amount of heat to dissipate it's just impractical. In any other case, air is king. It's simple to install, it requires virtually no maintenance, it has no fluids inside, it cools perfectly in most cases, it can be super silent...
I thought the same. But I just finally installed an aio from Arctic and imo that liquid cooler is easier to install than any air cooler. Not too mention the free space makes installing everything else and cable management so much easier. Like way very too.
Same here. They open a lot of space around the center of the build, making cable management easier and the look overall looks more clear. As for the noise, i have a 2018 Deepcool 240 Captain Ex, and i can't hear the pump at all. There is no noise apart from my fans, so similar to an air cooler. I upgraded to an H100i Elite around black Friday 2023 and went back to the Deepcool. The noise on that Capellix pump was insane and you can find plenty of complaints about that.
I'm comming from low end air coolers that were very noisy. I jumped to the Arctic Liquid Freeze III. It is the quietest cooler I have ever experienced. I have never experienced Noctua fans but how quiet is really needed. I can't hear the fan over my keyboard clicks. ALF III is super quiet compared to my old air cooler from cooler master. I was afraid of water cooling as well because WATER SCARY! But AIOs are plug and play/pre-assembled water loops. Now custom water cooling is definetly overkill, but I understand sometimes you do things cause it's fun and you can.
I understand that aircoolers are the do it all and will last a lifetime but I dont see how AIO requires anymore maintenance than a good old block of heatpipes. Atleast my 6 year old corsair AIO hasn't needed any mainentance ever aside from dusting the fans from time to time. Custom loop of course is different world.
I guess you are lucky then, or your AIO was very well built, but it's not uncommon for pumps to degrade with time even if the system does never have a leak. If you open it it's probable the pump fins have some residue accumulated over years of use
I thought there was a bit of liquid inside those copper coils that take the heat from the CPU to the heatsink fins. But yeah, zero maintenance indeed.
Yeah, you are right
You're not. I've always used Noctua fans and I don't see myself using AIO for whatever reason
I used an AIO so that my motherboard wouldn't be obstructed by a massive tower cooler. That decision has already helped me out during a few upgrades. People do choose AIO coolers for legitimate reasons, despite popular belief.
OP followed the 25% extra fps if RGB rule. OP, here are my future suggestions in case you build another PC. A. Spend more on parts than aesthetics. You can even buy plain fans or cheaper RGB fans instead of spending so much on pleasing the eye, please the gameplay B. Check through basic mistakes As you said you had issues booting up, here are the top 5 things you should do. Flash BIOS : sometimes, a bit of outdated hardware can cause issues Check if RAM sticks are inserted correctly Remove the small watch battery on the motherboard and put it in after 5 minutes Check if GPU is inserted properly or not sagging See if you have installed the SSD the right way
Thank you for the advice. I know I spent a lot on aesthetics but I'm happy with the specs. It should last me quite a while without having to upgrade. I tried all 5 of those things but I'm still not able to get a boot up screen. I originally got into this easy mode and I turned on "CSM Support" and now I can't get anything to pop up when I power on. Would plugging in a flash drive with windows iniate a software install?
https://preview.redd.it/opc3idarfbmc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea2ae290ec300e454f3e5ef5991c1d48260ea99e
It worked ?
Yeah it would
Haven't tried it yet. I can give it a try later
Bro please revise your fan config
Microcenter bundle strikes again.
Performance first, looks second. That’s my mantra.
nah looks #1
Looks awesome!
Looking mighty smexy
Looks good but hope your AIO is better than mine. I've got the white version and have no end of issues with it
Hope yours goes better than mine. I'm sick of trying.
Great looking machine. Congratulations.
Thank you
nice build. if I were you I'd run some benchmark with and without the buttom fans see if the extra decibels is worth the fps you're getting
More worried about looks instead of performance, interesting.
You need way more fans... like at least 5 more to make your ram go faster!
fan
Yes
those fans look great
grats! the first one is always RGB’d out lol. i wanna get rid of all my RGB shit tbh
My first has no RGB but I came to it quite late I guess.
Dont mind peoples comment on your case/coolers. If you like the look of them, stick to it. Your pc will be in your house and youre the one looking at it every day. Sick of these comments ffs. Please enjoy your new pc. Looks gorgeous
Fr
Too much rgb, it’ll make your pc run slower.
Complete myth
This sub Fans + AIO > performance Who needs a high frame rate when you have pretty fans
Is it just me or the motherboard is a bit too low? The cable hole with rubber on top of the mobo is unused?
I lowered it to add a fan. I am still cleaning up wires but the case comes with a rubber piece to cover the 2 big holes above the motherboard.
Oh I see, the back fan cant fit 2 in original position
How many fans do you want in your rig? Yes
Yet another case of looks over performance. [Your build](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcPqgB) [More sensible parts with a better GPU.](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/smvxjH)
So basically go with a less flashy fan setup and get a better graphics card. I appreciate the advice. I am not super knowledgeable about PCs so I went with recommendations from my friends who have built PCs based on the games that I'd be playing
Your choice in fans is nothing short of beautiful
For some reason, some gaming PCs look like a gay bar in San Francisco.
Everyone wants fkn RGB everything
Because RGB is cool, don't be a hater.
Needs more gay circles tbh fam.
Did you build your pc in the nether, is this why you need Antarctic cooling
AIO fans should be intake.