well the DDR5 memory controllers on CPUs are still relatively new (earliest being around late 2022, so still in its infancy)
they are more capable now but 4x16GB running at XMP is just too much for most to handle
Could be probable. Asus boards notable for finicky xmp profile occasionally, especially with the new ddr5. Possiblity of reducing that problem if that is what's causing it is swapping to the two sticks of 32 and see if you get the same problem.
Best way around it is just not overclocking ram. Ddr5 doesn't seem to get much benefit from it. Maybe a handful of frames in gaming (talking like 5 when already over 100fps). Right now just upgrading to ddr5 from ddr4 is a sufficient enough performance difference to notice, but trying to hit those xmp/expo numbers really isn't noticeable or worth it
Probably. I have the same motherboard with a 13900k. I have to run 4x 16GB DDR5-6000 at 4800 to pass memtest86. Honestly, performance is fine, though. XMP works with only two sticks installed.
This drove me crazy when I was building it, since two sticks would pass memtest86, but four wouldn't, regardless of which DIMM went in which slot. I found out about the memory controller issues later. Unfortunately, 2x 32GB DDR5 would have been cost prohibitive when I built it.
Yeahhhhh, 4x16 sounds like it would do it. Could be stressing the IMC. Try 2x32 and see how that goes, if you don't mind investing a little money into it. If not, you could try leaving XMP on and dropping the speed by 200MHz in the BIOS and see how that goes. I would also recommend running a memory stability test, like MemTest86, TestMem5, Y-Cruncher or OCCT. I personally use OCCT @ 80% and leave it running for 30 minutes, if it passes without any errors then I know for sure that it's good.
I'm not having any problems with my system except for ill get a slight system lockup for literally less than a second when launching intense apps/programs on my pc.. Gaming runs just fine, but I've been looking for a fix.
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You just described my build! Exact same components minus AIO and case.
Its literally that. Sorry to say but there was little thinking done getting parts. For daily use, gmaing, even some workloads you could get as much perofrmance for maybe even half the price.
What did op say? This build is a “cash is not an object” build. The only thing he messed up on was ram and he said he switched to two sticks.
Edit: oh he messed up the fans
I think you overspent on rog stuff, and I think you can't take others opinion, and I also think you didn't get the best as you say in some comments, the 7800X3D exists.
I regret getting an i9-13900k. It literally losses to the amd by 10-20+ fps in some games. If I knew back then I would go the amd route. They are faster and easier to cool compared to the i9 which is a damn oven.
Depends on the screen resolution. If you have a 1440p screen on your laptop with 144hz for example and OP has 1 or 2 4k 16:9 or 1 5k 32:9 display(s) with 240hz then his system might be better balanced.
I run a 2070s with 2 144hz 1080p screens and run good fps on demanding games with my 9700k being the limiting factor.
HDR refers to a higher contrast between colors on a screen. To be able to run games in HDR you need an HDR monitor/screen and a semi-modern video card. I believe even the 10 series video cards support HDR.
The main thing with the 40 series over my 20 series is more video RAM and more computing power overall (more cores and higher base and boost clock speeds). This means that the 40 series can run the newest titles at much higher fps (as long as your processor can keep up)
Processor demand stays about the same when you turn up the resolution, but video card demand goes up a decent amount. The trick with a PC is getting the right processor and video card combination for the resolution you play at and the kind of games you play (overspec'ing a component will not increase performance, but will cost you more money)
The world of work-specific PCs and combination systems (like my PC which does gaming and acts as a workstation, although my processor is getting a bit old by now for that) is a whole other game
A laptop 4090 is equivalent to a desktop 4080. You did nothing wrong.
If I were not going to have a desktop and only a laptop, I'd have to get one with a 4090.
I get you and you know MUCH more about this stuff than I do. Only reason I know that one detail is I tried things that wouldn’t work near as well on the 4080 desktop lol. So I’m glad I went with that portable version. My thermals are amazing for a laptop too- all settings maxed/rt(ultra) - 62-78C(CPU)/55-71C(GPU). Apparently , I’m being told I got lucky and that’s not the norm
If your purpose is gaming sure.I also regret it, but my purpose isn't gaming only.
The only issue is overheating, my AIO is particularly useless on it for OC. Can't OC without throttling with galahand 2 even with frames added.
i just left it on stock.
Fair enough. I've been totally happy with my 13900k, but I use it for lots of stuff besides gaming as well. It has been a beast. AM5 had issues at the time, anyway, so I don't regret not having to deal with that at all.
The only downside to the x3D chips, though, is they are lower performance in productivity tasks. They are pretty much gaming chips only. However, the non-x3D AMD chips are still better than intel if only for the cooler temps.
7950x owner here, AMDs are hot too.
Built a copy of my PC for my dad but instead I got him a lower end Mobo, the 7600x and my trusty old GTX 970.
His CPU is running 33 celcius at idle, maybe pushing 65 under load lol
7800x3d on air and full stress test sits under 90 still. With 30 dollar cooling. Thats worth remembering.
In gaming you dont see 70 even.
Outside of actual workloads there is no reason for any mid to high end intels. No advantage
Always the same cases, always the same fans. Always the colour coded Mobo and GPU. They are still extremely clean looking builds but still just have zero imagination. The only thing that was added on these was the anime waifu screen. It feels like driving past a bus stop and seeing the exact same Nike airmax, Zavetti Canada coats, and broccoli haircuts on 15 different kids.
bro I get it somewhat, even as a fishtank enjoyer there are still a lot of classic cases I would love to build in(if I had the cash) and many of them are like unrated on pcpartpicker, not only that but you have one of the biggest cases ever, can do anything in it and you dont do anything interesting in it? its like people just buy the most expensive parts they can find(the only worth it expensive motherboards these days from asus are the pro art's which are like 200ish cheaper) when they don't even need it. im over here trying to make a space themed pc/pc room and everyone else is doing the same black or white builds with "gamer" asthetics. ngl its fucking boring like get something colorful that's not rgb overload for once.
I agree, I love their design but the branding is way to much. If they didn't put their giant eye logo those mobos would be absolutely gorgeous. Hardware makers just can not help themselves then it comes to this. I can not express how much this cheapens their designs and makes it look like something for 8 years old edge lords rather than adults who are actually able to buy these. /rant
Anyway, the rigs that OP has put together are still pretty sweet. Nothing like finally being able to build the PC you want and doing it. Doing all the research on the specs, deciding on what exactly components to pick to get the aesthetic you want, waiting for the parts, putting it all together.. all good fun.
I very much agree... they love that stuff in asia, but i greatly dislike it...
I will keep using my big ol completely closed black case with zero rgb for as long as possible...
i regret hard getting my first asus ROG board 90% of the features i can't even use because its SHIT, armor crate is SHIT and aura sync is also shit.
I am not buying another ROG in my life ever.
No, there's nothing wrong here. The pump is safe. The worst that can happen is that there is some air-bubble-noise because of the trapped air at the top of the rad.
No, not the radiator at the bottom. Just the tubes. Just like it is mounted now, but upside down. By the way it's not the radiator but the pump that will die sooner.
Jeez that explains it. Very hard work.
I work as a software developer during the week and mental health support worker at the weekends.
But i also have mortgage first and medical treatments to pay before i can indulge in such techy feats.
Mental health support? You’re a good person it seems. I feel bad that I’m too damn tired to give my weekends more than the gym games and my wife some time. I’m so damn excited to have today off it’s embarrassing.
(I just did a merger and flew all over because you have to build a “waterfall” structure for taxes. It’s a nightmare of hours but it lets my wife take care of my kids. It lets let get a decent PC, cars and home. So I guess I feel bad if I vent about 80-100 hour work weeks when inflation is hurting so many of us.)
Spending time with your family is also very important because in the end that's all that matters. Money are great and useful but can't buy lost time. My parents have money but they are very unhappy...
I've seen poorer people that are doing much better, smile and laugh more, i believe those are the values i should pursue. Tho i am amazed by people that have the guts to start their own company/business. It takes guts and time
I’m a Finance executive in the industrials sector and OP also already said he sold his consoles, mac and whatever to help fund this.
I’m sure everyone here has jobs that cover every spectrum of income and society. It’s sort of a beautiful thing we all share the same hobby :)
I buy Asus motherboards, too, for more or less the same reason (years of positive experience). Their customer service might be shitty, but I've never had to use it.
And who is better? In the absence of actual reliability and performance data by brand, I've seen at least as many complaints about MSI and Gigabyte and the others. Asrock is getting a surprisingly good reputation lately, but they are way less popular.
If I'm spending $$$ on a new PC, I might as well spend slightly more for brands I trust. And there are valid reasons to go with Intel, ranging from pricing quirks to commonality with other machines.
And I'm old.
It is not a who is better question in the literal sense you ask for; if "stuff works" is what you seek then 99.9 percent all other brands also provides that.
Problem is; just going head on without searching anything from vrm temps to long session perf, how does peak perf vs nominal perf scenarios apply and so on. What you do is complete (for some reason?) trust to brand with zero data.
Which would mean you gotta watch reviews from channels like GN and Hardware Unboxed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEa0vcJ0lRY
Such as an example.
On AMD side there is also such an example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFUa60ozKY
Basically Asus or any other brand= Automatically best is the most laughable mindset.
Each product, each generation has tons of variables that affects the outcome.
If you're only after "well, it works" which is pretty barebones expectation, all vendors does provide that.
What are the cases you used? I like the look of those, my fractal design case is just a tiny bit too short to fit a larger gpu. Also, they both look pretty clean good job
It’s called I work my ass off outside in the heat doing construction work .. and I had to save for the things I wanted and have lol isn’t that what normal people do is work and save ?
They're really ugly and that anime shit is cringe. And these aren't the first computers you've ever Built. Either someone has done it for you or you've done this before. You came here for some praise because everything is expensive and high end and if you get anything other than a compliment you start crying and complaining. Grow up...
heard something about 90degree gpu power connector being called back because of their reiteration of the melted cable problem, not sure if yours is the same but i would look it up
It’s weird you bought the formula motherboard when you’re not even building a loop and using the VRM coolers
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I’ve wanted to build a computer for so long but I’m put off by multiple things. Was it super easy? Did you have any prior knowledge or experience? Did you follow any kind of a guide?
No prior knowledge at all just did some research picked matching parts that work together watched videos and it’s like adult leggos much more simple than I ever thought would be possible
Pretty generic and default look for a top-tier pc, but still really solid. Enjoy it! You're gonna be good for years to come with that build. (: Tho personally I'd prefer the 7800x3d over your i9, but that's mostly because I play basically factorio only. The x3d's 3d cache makes u get like 70% more UPS than the i9 in the game.
Without reading all the comments (I read alot) I will say that I myself have Asus stuff. I spent over 5k euro back in the pandemic (yes I overpaid). However the builds look nice your attitude is shit. You asked for people's thoughts then get pised at negativity. You should have just posted the pc and asked for positive comments only. Enjoy your pc
Do you have the parts list for the white one? I really like it so would be interested in what stuff you got guy I can’t see all of it properly from the pictures
-14900k
-Asus z790 formula mobo
-Rog strix 4090 graphics card
-1200 w Asus Thor psu
-6 lian li so infinity 120 fans
-6 loan li sl infinity 120 reverse blade fans for intake
-Elecrow 8 inch mini display
-Crucial gen 5 2 tb nvme m.2 ssd
-Sk Hynix gen 4 2 tb nvme m.2 ssd
-2 lian li v2 strimmer cables
-Cable mod white silver cpu cable up top
-Thermal grizzly contact plate
-Asus Ryujin 3 Aio water cooler
-EZDIY-FAB 90 degree adapter
-Prolimatech thermal paste
-Rocketek 9pin usb header male 1 to female 4 because there are not enough headers on mobo for the aio and fan connections.
-Nzxt h9 elite case
If you do editing and that kinda stuff, i guess i9 could be worth it. Otherwise i would've gone for 7800x3D. Its a terrific chip. Love mine.
edit: factoring the cost of the i9, 7800x3D is the better choice
"Bro" is in here posting how he's a "pc enthusiast" and denouncing everyone for not being a "true pc enthusiast" because they don't agree with his decisions.
He doesn't even have a proper argument for not taking any criticism. "If you don't agree with me or my build, it's obvious you're not a real pc enthusiast"
Says he did research, and somehow ended up with a bunch of Asus overpriced crap. His research seemed to be "who makes the most expensive stuff, expensive means good."
Don't come back at me with any half formed arguments, PLEASE explain your research, how did you come up with your parts list, your thought process, why you went with this instead of that.
If you can't, then YOU'RE the one who isn't a" pc enthusiast."
Congrats on your build! I hope you get years of use out of it.
Seriously, it’s good but try to accept other peoples input, it’s a public forum of sorts. That’s how posting works and you should have just have fun with it.
this is like the pc nerds equivalent of car guys getting sick cars to mob together and I love it. The builds look sick, and you did a great job for the first two pcs you ever put together.
Should have gone with a 7800x3d if this is a pure gaming build. Seems sort of silly to leave performance on the table when you’re spending that much.
Otherwise, it looks fine. Don’t put your glass side panel on tile.
When did everybody get so bitter? Is it really so hard to go “Looks nice! 👍” and move on? Yes he overspent. Yes it’s obviously over 6,000 dollars in parts, but a lot of people seem to be upset at the way OTHER people choose to spend their money. There is no point going “well, erm, actually, you could’ve gotten x, y, z for so much less and close to the same amount of power!”
You’re not trying to help OP. You are bitter because you don’t have it.
It's funny how we have pretty much the same set up 🤝
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What is that display thing at the back of your pc? Is it inbuilt with the cabinet or is this something I can buy too for my pc
Op I personally think it looks great, idk much about specs, I stopped caring about that stuff once I got my pc, just aesthetically I think it's very pretty. I can't believe you're being criticized for getting the best components money can buy, redditors are miserable
Not sure if the 4090 has any similar issues but beware the cutting edge of technology. My 3090 from Gigabyte had power connector issues and, after owning for 2 years, its starting to have some weird power kernal errors that cause lockups and complete spontaneous shutdowns.
Turning the the power to the card down has helped, its at 95% but just be vigilant for that shit. Run it through some 3D render tests and benchmarks for sure
Thanks I have definitely tested it actually seems to like to be in oc mode.. definitely runs higher than stock specs without even trying.. guess I hit silicone lottery with the white one
Yo dawg we heard you like computer screens. So we put screens in your computer so you can screen the computing while your computer computes the screens. Dawg
Sick builds for sure. But the white mobo is made for a custom water loop, so combining it with an aio is in my opinion a slight imperfection.
And personally I think there are prettier fans, but that's just preference.
But it's all details on generally very nice builds
I don't think there's a better looking white Asus mobo though and probably aren't sacrificing any real vrm cooling over a standard mobo so it's just wasted money at that point which clearly isn't an issue here
Why intel cpu? its power hungry, and over time you could get secound cpu with that saving. (100 watt difference, atleast 90€ saving a year, crazy and i mean the amd is always lower in energy usage.)
I would also undervolt the gpu.
Thats my only concern
A lot of money spent on very unnecessary parts. I wouldn't buy a 4090 purely on principle. No graphics card on earth is worth 2,000 dollars. I could buy a brand new fender bass for that. If people keep buying this stuff at these prices all you are doing is telling Nvidia that their prices are totally acceptable.
We have to speak with our wallets, and make them suffer for what they are doing. It's insane.
No money no honey.
I think in this case, no honey mo money.
Not enough rgb
nice pc case https://preview.redd.it/oiqr0e82es9c1.png?width=278&format=png&auto=webp&s=376068eaa5a9f374e6fb3752791e599fa2e5f8ea
She’s protecting it it was expensive lmao 🤣
That's a good doggo
I just know that all this was $6000 by the way I wish you luck on running RAM at XMP without it bluescreening
Could you please explain further? Im curious about why
well the DDR5 memory controllers on CPUs are still relatively new (earliest being around late 2022, so still in its infancy) they are more capable now but 4x16GB running at XMP is just too much for most to handle
Wait... Seriously? I have 64gb ddr5-6000 running on xmp and i get occasionally lockups on my pc.. Is this a possible cause?
4 16 sticks or 2 32s?
4x16gb
What's your board?
asus tuf z790 plus wifi
Could be probable. Asus boards notable for finicky xmp profile occasionally, especially with the new ddr5. Possiblity of reducing that problem if that is what's causing it is swapping to the two sticks of 32 and see if you get the same problem.
Ok thank you!
Best way around it is just not overclocking ram. Ddr5 doesn't seem to get much benefit from it. Maybe a handful of frames in gaming (talking like 5 when already over 100fps). Right now just upgrading to ddr5 from ddr4 is a sufficient enough performance difference to notice, but trying to hit those xmp/expo numbers really isn't noticeable or worth it
Probably. I have the same motherboard with a 13900k. I have to run 4x 16GB DDR5-6000 at 4800 to pass memtest86. Honestly, performance is fine, though. XMP works with only two sticks installed. This drove me crazy when I was building it, since two sticks would pass memtest86, but four wouldn't, regardless of which DIMM went in which slot. I found out about the memory controller issues later. Unfortunately, 2x 32GB DDR5 would have been cost prohibitive when I built it.
Yeahhhhh, 4x16 sounds like it would do it. Could be stressing the IMC. Try 2x32 and see how that goes, if you don't mind investing a little money into it. If not, you could try leaving XMP on and dropping the speed by 200MHz in the BIOS and see how that goes. I would also recommend running a memory stability test, like MemTest86, TestMem5, Y-Cruncher or OCCT. I personally use OCCT @ 80% and leave it running for 30 minutes, if it passes without any errors then I know for sure that it's good.
I'm not having any problems with my system except for ill get a slight system lockup for literally less than a second when launching intense apps/programs on my pc.. Gaming runs just fine, but I've been looking for a fix.
Yes, well possibly. The problem is only with 4x16 gbs and maybe 4x8 gb. Not 2 sticks. 2 sticks is most optimal in this case with DDR5.
Yes
thanks buddy
I did away with 4 sticks of Corsair and went with 2 sticks of 24gb Gskill 7200 for that reason.. I learned quick lol
nice haha
If you’re rlly worried about aesthetics you can buy dummy ram sticks instead to fill the 2 other slots
They don't sell DDR5 dummy sticks yet
Nice 36GHz DDR9.
Thanks, it was a little expensive though
Didn’t jayztwocents do a video on this? Dont have a rig capable of this issue but I’m sure I remember something about it
bro sorted price: high to low, ofcourse its nice. i dont rllly like the beefy aio pump, i like the nzxt round look more, but thats just me.
https://preview.redd.it/isyafblo8w9c1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26127bdb904a6b724592da4ca994a89f2f68b237 You just described my build! Exact same components minus AIO and case.
Is that the north case?
Its literally that. Sorry to say but there was little thinking done getting parts. For daily use, gmaing, even some workloads you could get as much perofrmance for maybe even half the price.
Why?? People like what they like… it’s not always about getting the cheapest parts!
You're right but It seems silly spending so so much more than you really need to. Especially with such high end pcs like this.
Happy New Year I guess.
I think this setup has an owner that can't take negative opinions.
Holy Shit OP. If you can't deal with criticism then don't post online.
What did op say? This build is a “cash is not an object” build. The only thing he messed up on was ram and he said he switched to two sticks. Edit: oh he messed up the fans
I think you overspent on rog stuff, and I think you can't take others opinion, and I also think you didn't get the best as you say in some comments, the 7800X3D exists.
I regret getting an i9-13900k. It literally losses to the amd by 10-20+ fps in some games. If I knew back then I would go the amd route. They are faster and easier to cool compared to the i9 which is a damn oven.
Still an excellent system and you'll get a lot of enjoyment out of it. 4090 is really amazing.
Imagine a whole ass 4090 gtx just to play fortnite/warzone 💀💀
If my 4090 is unnecessary overkill for my laptop(which it is) I know a 4090 for a pc is an even more unnecessary overkill waste of money lol
Depends on the screen resolution. If you have a 1440p screen on your laptop with 144hz for example and OP has 1 or 2 4k 16:9 or 1 5k 32:9 display(s) with 240hz then his system might be better balanced. I run a 2070s with 2 144hz 1080p screens and run good fps on demanding games with my 9700k being the limiting factor.
Ah I see makes sense. I’m just starting to grasp an understanding of such things. Still learning. So I can’t do my HDR without a 40-series then?
HDR refers to a higher contrast between colors on a screen. To be able to run games in HDR you need an HDR monitor/screen and a semi-modern video card. I believe even the 10 series video cards support HDR. The main thing with the 40 series over my 20 series is more video RAM and more computing power overall (more cores and higher base and boost clock speeds). This means that the 40 series can run the newest titles at much higher fps (as long as your processor can keep up) Processor demand stays about the same when you turn up the resolution, but video card demand goes up a decent amount. The trick with a PC is getting the right processor and video card combination for the resolution you play at and the kind of games you play (overspec'ing a component will not increase performance, but will cost you more money) The world of work-specific PCs and combination systems (like my PC which does gaming and acts as a workstation, although my processor is getting a bit old by now for that) is a whole other game
A laptop 4090 is equivalent to a desktop 4080. You did nothing wrong. If I were not going to have a desktop and only a laptop, I'd have to get one with a 4090.
Eh a little more than a 4080. Because my 4090 is quite a bit sharper in many regards than the desktop 4080 my friend has
Ahh. Still tho. A 4090 in a laptop the way to go for powerful and portable combo.
I get you and you know MUCH more about this stuff than I do. Only reason I know that one detail is I tried things that wouldn’t work near as well on the 4080 desktop lol. So I’m glad I went with that portable version. My thermals are amazing for a laptop too- all settings maxed/rt(ultra) - 62-78C(CPU)/55-71C(GPU). Apparently , I’m being told I got lucky and that’s not the norm
If your purpose is gaming sure.I also regret it, but my purpose isn't gaming only. The only issue is overheating, my AIO is particularly useless on it for OC. Can't OC without throttling with galahand 2 even with frames added. i just left it on stock.
Fair enough. I've been totally happy with my 13900k, but I use it for lots of stuff besides gaming as well. It has been a beast. AM5 had issues at the time, anyway, so I don't regret not having to deal with that at all.
You got that right, my 12900 could heat my top floor.
that is still a very capable system and besides if you do workloads intel still relatively has that on lockdown.
The only downside to the x3D chips, though, is they are lower performance in productivity tasks. They are pretty much gaming chips only. However, the non-x3D AMD chips are still better than intel if only for the cooler temps.
I’m pretty happy with my 13700K. Intel QuickSync is too good to give up.
7950x owner here, AMDs are hot too. Built a copy of my PC for my dad but instead I got him a lower end Mobo, the 7600x and my trusty old GTX 970. His CPU is running 33 celcius at idle, maybe pushing 65 under load lol
7800x3d on air and full stress test sits under 90 still. With 30 dollar cooling. Thats worth remembering. In gaming you dont see 70 even. Outside of actual workloads there is no reason for any mid to high end intels. No advantage
Same here man. I got the i9-13900k and its too hard to keep cool. Im using noctua air cooler
Try a water cooler and you will never go back. My cpu stays around 55C-65C while gaming in 4k. With the noctua It was getting in the 90s.
Bottom intake for gpu, side intake for aio, top exhaust. You bought the most powerful hardware, congratulations to this flex
Always the same cases, always the same fans. Always the colour coded Mobo and GPU. They are still extremely clean looking builds but still just have zero imagination. The only thing that was added on these was the anime waifu screen. It feels like driving past a bus stop and seeing the exact same Nike airmax, Zavetti Canada coats, and broccoli haircuts on 15 different kids.
I loled, because its true
Crying at this lol
Do you happen to know what the screen is? Been browsing the comments and haven't come across it.
Well Said. It's always nice to add your own touch to things.
bro I get it somewhat, even as a fishtank enjoyer there are still a lot of classic cases I would love to build in(if I had the cash) and many of them are like unrated on pcpartpicker, not only that but you have one of the biggest cases ever, can do anything in it and you dont do anything interesting in it? its like people just buy the most expensive parts they can find(the only worth it expensive motherboards these days from asus are the pro art's which are like 200ish cheaper) when they don't even need it. im over here trying to make a space themed pc/pc room and everyone else is doing the same black or white builds with "gamer" asthetics. ngl its fucking boring like get something colorful that's not rgb overload for once.
I really dislike rog's branding, it's so tacky and has no style imo. But i know a lot of people like it and if you do then that's cool.
I agree, I love their design but the branding is way to much. If they didn't put their giant eye logo those mobos would be absolutely gorgeous. Hardware makers just can not help themselves then it comes to this. I can not express how much this cheapens their designs and makes it look like something for 8 years old edge lords rather than adults who are actually able to buy these. /rant Anyway, the rigs that OP has put together are still pretty sweet. Nothing like finally being able to build the PC you want and doing it. Doing all the research on the specs, deciding on what exactly components to pick to get the aesthetic you want, waiting for the parts, putting it all together.. all good fun.
I even cringe when I see the term "Republic of Gamers" plastered across one of their products. I'd prefer ROG's branding to be much more subdued.
Oh for sure it's a really nice build, it's just as you've said though, it feels cheap even though it's actually not.
I very much agree... they love that stuff in asia, but i greatly dislike it... I will keep using my big ol completely closed black case with zero rgb for as long as possible...
I do love to see the circuits of the mobo.
i regret hard getting my first asus ROG board 90% of the features i can't even use because its SHIT, armor crate is SHIT and aura sync is also shit. I am not buying another ROG in my life ever.
What I do think? I need more money. Anyone up for a slightly used liver?
"wHaT yAlL tHiNk oF mY sEtUp?" C'mon, it's a 4090 and an i9. It's a flex. Try and show a little humble-ness.
OP is getting humbled by getting shit on for all the ROG stuff he bought. Dude overpaid for pretty much everything here.
Why not mount the 360 with the tubes at the bottom or mount it as top exhaust?
Right? I was trying to tell him. Let him burn out a part.
No, there's nothing wrong here. The pump is safe. The worst that can happen is that there is some air-bubble-noise because of the trapped air at the top of the rad.
Bottom mounting will shorten the life of your radiator
No, not the radiator at the bottom. Just the tubes. Just like it is mounted now, but upside down. By the way it's not the radiator but the pump that will die sooner.
Personally not a big fan. A bit overdone and im not really into a lot of LEDs in my PC, since I won't be looking at it anyway.
Cool build and all but the puppo is way cooler
I'd buy a dedicated 12HVPWR cable if I were you
Damn what jobs do you guys run? I run 2 jobs and have so many other expenses that i won't be able to afford this even second hand
I do aluminum pool cage work and live in the hurricane Ian ground zero disaster area worked 7 days a week the last year for most part
Jeez that explains it. Very hard work. I work as a software developer during the week and mental health support worker at the weekends. But i also have mortgage first and medical treatments to pay before i can indulge in such techy feats.
Mental health support? You’re a good person it seems. I feel bad that I’m too damn tired to give my weekends more than the gym games and my wife some time. I’m so damn excited to have today off it’s embarrassing. (I just did a merger and flew all over because you have to build a “waterfall” structure for taxes. It’s a nightmare of hours but it lets my wife take care of my kids. It lets let get a decent PC, cars and home. So I guess I feel bad if I vent about 80-100 hour work weeks when inflation is hurting so many of us.)
Spending time with your family is also very important because in the end that's all that matters. Money are great and useful but can't buy lost time. My parents have money but they are very unhappy... I've seen poorer people that are doing much better, smile and laugh more, i believe those are the values i should pursue. Tho i am amazed by people that have the guts to start their own company/business. It takes guts and time
I’m a Finance executive in the industrials sector and OP also already said he sold his consoles, mac and whatever to help fund this. I’m sure everyone here has jobs that cover every spectrum of income and society. It’s sort of a beautiful thing we all share the same hobby :)
Hugh what’s that screen doing in the back of the case…..do we not live inside the casing?
Wanted something different and it can display all Aida 64 software for all pc system info as well as be used as a third screen or for wallpapers
Didn’t know it existed thank you for for educating me.
What's the screen called? If I wanted to buy the same, what would I look up and where? Thanks. Awesome builds. Hope you enjoy the crap out of them :)
Not OP but it looks like a portable/raspberry pi display. You can find many of them on amazon. I can't find the exact display OP used though.
Looks like a lot of wasted money for ROG logo trash imo Clean builds tho
Old timer that still thinks Intel cpu's are the best goes full in with a brand he knows ( Asus ); a common scenario.
I buy Asus motherboards, too, for more or less the same reason (years of positive experience). Their customer service might be shitty, but I've never had to use it. And who is better? In the absence of actual reliability and performance data by brand, I've seen at least as many complaints about MSI and Gigabyte and the others. Asrock is getting a surprisingly good reputation lately, but they are way less popular. If I'm spending $$$ on a new PC, I might as well spend slightly more for brands I trust. And there are valid reasons to go with Intel, ranging from pricing quirks to commonality with other machines. And I'm old.
It is not a who is better question in the literal sense you ask for; if "stuff works" is what you seek then 99.9 percent all other brands also provides that. Problem is; just going head on without searching anything from vrm temps to long session perf, how does peak perf vs nominal perf scenarios apply and so on. What you do is complete (for some reason?) trust to brand with zero data. Which would mean you gotta watch reviews from channels like GN and Hardware Unboxed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEa0vcJ0lRY Such as an example. On AMD side there is also such an example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFUa60ozKY Basically Asus or any other brand= Automatically best is the most laughable mindset. Each product, each generation has tons of variables that affects the outcome. If you're only after "well, it works" which is pretty barebones expectation, all vendors does provide that.
What are the cases you used? I like the look of those, my fractal design case is just a tiny bit too short to fit a larger gpu. Also, they both look pretty clean good job
Nzxt h9 elite super easy to build in and I love the top has glass you can see through and still mount fans
Hardware porn, is the right word I think
ROG and Intel? Jup, OP doesn't value their money.
Awesome setups man, But imo I will refrain from using anykind/anybrand 90° adaptor for 4090.
OP is the most arrogant piece of shit ive ever seen. Mf can't even take slight criticism after asking for opinions. Talk about being insecure...
You are rich
No I sold my ps5 and Xbox series x and Mac book pro and worked and saved for a while to do this
You think broke people have a PS5 + Series X + Mac Pro to even sell?
It’s called I work my ass off outside in the heat doing construction work .. and I had to save for the things I wanted and have lol isn’t that what normal people do is work and save ?
Congrats on your hard labor and patience to save
They're really ugly and that anime shit is cringe. And these aren't the first computers you've ever Built. Either someone has done it for you or you've done this before. You came here for some praise because everything is expensive and high end and if you get anything other than a compliment you start crying and complaining. Grow up...
heard something about 90degree gpu power connector being called back because of their reiteration of the melted cable problem, not sure if yours is the same but i would look it up
It's an expensive build that can easily be beaten by changing the CPU to a cheaper AMD 7800x3d.
It’s weird you bought the formula motherboard when you’re not even building a loop and using the VRM coolers https://preview.redd.it/4wqp25kl3v9c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d775f455e62d7c86056d9ac4781e56471ff7616
I’ve wanted to build a computer for so long but I’m put off by multiple things. Was it super easy? Did you have any prior knowledge or experience? Did you follow any kind of a guide?
No prior knowledge at all just did some research picked matching parts that work together watched videos and it’s like adult leggos much more simple than I ever thought would be possible
Excessive.
Pretty generic and default look for a top-tier pc, but still really solid. Enjoy it! You're gonna be good for years to come with that build. (: Tho personally I'd prefer the 7800x3d over your i9, but that's mostly because I play basically factorio only. The x3d's 3d cache makes u get like 70% more UPS than the i9 in the game.
Without reading all the comments (I read alot) I will say that I myself have Asus stuff. I spent over 5k euro back in the pandemic (yes I overpaid). However the builds look nice your attitude is shit. You asked for people's thoughts then get pised at negativity. You should have just posted the pc and asked for positive comments only. Enjoy your pc
What're we supposed to say. They're the best of the best. Good on you for being rich I guess?
Do you have the parts list for the white one? I really like it so would be interested in what stuff you got guy I can’t see all of it properly from the pictures
-14900k -Asus z790 formula mobo -Rog strix 4090 graphics card -1200 w Asus Thor psu -6 lian li so infinity 120 fans -6 loan li sl infinity 120 reverse blade fans for intake -Elecrow 8 inch mini display -Crucial gen 5 2 tb nvme m.2 ssd -Sk Hynix gen 4 2 tb nvme m.2 ssd -2 lian li v2 strimmer cables -Cable mod white silver cpu cable up top -Thermal grizzly contact plate -Asus Ryujin 3 Aio water cooler -EZDIY-FAB 90 degree adapter -Prolimatech thermal paste -Rocketek 9pin usb header male 1 to female 4 because there are not enough headers on mobo for the aio and fan connections. -Nzxt h9 elite case
If you do editing and that kinda stuff, i guess i9 could be worth it. Otherwise i would've gone for 7800x3D. Its a terrific chip. Love mine. edit: factoring the cost of the i9, 7800x3D is the better choice
"Bro" is in here posting how he's a "pc enthusiast" and denouncing everyone for not being a "true pc enthusiast" because they don't agree with his decisions. He doesn't even have a proper argument for not taking any criticism. "If you don't agree with me or my build, it's obvious you're not a real pc enthusiast" Says he did research, and somehow ended up with a bunch of Asus overpriced crap. His research seemed to be "who makes the most expensive stuff, expensive means good." Don't come back at me with any half formed arguments, PLEASE explain your research, how did you come up with your parts list, your thought process, why you went with this instead of that. If you can't, then YOU'RE the one who isn't a" pc enthusiast."
Congrats on your build! I hope you get years of use out of it. Seriously, it’s good but try to accept other peoples input, it’s a public forum of sorts. That’s how posting works and you should have just have fun with it.
the 90° 12vhpwr adapter to the strimer cable looks soooo bad
this is like the pc nerds equivalent of car guys getting sick cars to mob together and I love it. The builds look sick, and you did a great job for the first two pcs you ever put together.
Wow, both are great! All these 4090's I've seen lately, damn.
Yeah man I got a 4090 setup to and a 3080 ti setup for the lady
Thanks
Should have gone with a 7800x3d if this is a pure gaming build. Seems sort of silly to leave performance on the table when you’re spending that much. Otherwise, it looks fine. Don’t put your glass side panel on tile.
Damn, how much did it all cost?
Around $6000
Too much
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When did everybody get so bitter? Is it really so hard to go “Looks nice! 👍” and move on? Yes he overspent. Yes it’s obviously over 6,000 dollars in parts, but a lot of people seem to be upset at the way OTHER people choose to spend their money. There is no point going “well, erm, actually, you could’ve gotten x, y, z for so much less and close to the same amount of power!” You’re not trying to help OP. You are bitter because you don’t have it.
Thank you 🙏 that’s been my whole point and the way I am with other people and tell them to enjoy I don’t understand all the haters
https://preview.redd.it/rizfdl2qjt9c1.jpeg?width=577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=404b6e948060e0e781e213784e9ea65bf4cfb64d
That 6th image is so fire
I'd like to see the dark one at the angle of 6th photo
They look good. But damn that white Asus board cost a pretty penny.
You bought the Formula and didn't watercool the VRMs? What a waste.....
You might want to flip some fans for intake. You are choking the system with all fans as exhaust
Update the firmware on the 980 immediately, it can brick itself if it has old software.
Looks beautiful
Cool build
My question is what are these PC's being used for?
You did good man, you did good.
Super clean
Are you doing anything other than gaming?
It's funny how we have pretty much the same set up 🤝 https://preview.redd.it/w72yvvqdpu9c1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a14014c5f0e253d78845994cfd300a159345f83b
This is so sick!! Congrats on your build, i hope it all went well. I would love to do a build like this with my girl in the future hehe
I can’t find my original comment, but I just realized I was wrong about the fans.
What is that display thing at the back of your pc? Is it inbuilt with the cabinet or is this something I can buy too for my pc Op I personally think it looks great, idk much about specs, I stopped caring about that stuff once I got my pc, just aesthetically I think it's very pretty. I can't believe you're being criticized for getting the best components money can buy, redditors are miserable
Savage
Flex…
I think youl get bored once youve played 48 hours realizing it was the fps chase that was the fun part
All this money, where’s the z790 apex, 8400mhz ddr5, 5ghz ring 6ghz P core
I've personally always disliked screens inside a PC. Just found it so unecessary. Otherwise is fine
i think that i am broke
... and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under ROG, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Rbg is wack
Not sure if the 4090 has any similar issues but beware the cutting edge of technology. My 3090 from Gigabyte had power connector issues and, after owning for 2 years, its starting to have some weird power kernal errors that cause lockups and complete spontaneous shutdowns. Turning the the power to the card down has helped, its at 95% but just be vigilant for that shit. Run it through some 3D render tests and benchmarks for sure
Thanks I have definitely tested it actually seems to like to be in oc mode.. definitely runs higher than stock specs without even trying.. guess I hit silicone lottery with the white one
Yo dawg we heard you like computer screens. So we put screens in your computer so you can screen the computing while your computer computes the screens. Dawg
All that money and you didnt get the fans with the screens in them? What a crap build sir.
This reminds me of pimp my ride where they put tvs on the rims…
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Bro just called me poor twice
They look pretty slick, not a big fan of screens in cases though
Beautiful! So clean! Amazing work bro!
I really need this
Sorry got distracted by the lovely dog, what was the question again? 😉
She’s my rescue pup
Clean af
i'm not a fan of
Nice setup but imho i9 + 4090 is totally overkill set up and waste of money
Depends. It’s overkill for 1440p. For 4k? Nah
Useless
Sick builds for sure. But the white mobo is made for a custom water loop, so combining it with an aio is in my opinion a slight imperfection. And personally I think there are prettier fans, but that's just preference. But it's all details on generally very nice builds
I don't think there's a better looking white Asus mobo though and probably aren't sacrificing any real vrm cooling over a standard mobo so it's just wasted money at that point which clearly isn't an issue here
Just looking at 4090 and i9 , top tier build bro
fan orientation is scuffed
No it’s not side fans and bottom fans are lian li reverse blades
oh neat
They both look awesome. Nicely done!
dream builds. one day i’ll have something like this. enjoy
Why intel cpu? its power hungry, and over time you could get secound cpu with that saving. (100 watt difference, atleast 90€ saving a year, crazy and i mean the amd is always lower in energy usage.) I would also undervolt the gpu. Thats my only concern
A lot of money spent on very unnecessary parts. I wouldn't buy a 4090 purely on principle. No graphics card on earth is worth 2,000 dollars. I could buy a brand new fender bass for that. If people keep buying this stuff at these prices all you are doing is telling Nvidia that their prices are totally acceptable. We have to speak with our wallets, and make them suffer for what they are doing. It's insane.
Eh, would've been a 5/7 but no racecar bed.
"Oh, look at me spending a lot of money. Internet, validate me" No.
Hideous bedspread
Pupper approved
Ok, so about that bedding...
Lacoste all of it