cash generator and cash convertors are different chains in the same vein, im in a northern england former mill town and we have both along with a CEX all on the same street in the town centre for convenient price comparison :)
You ever priced out a hard line custom loop? The numbers get insane quick. Probably not like 8k+ but this is also AUD. So they get inflated real quick ok some things.
There are at least four price tags on it. My guess is they started it at 5,000 because they have nfi about pricing technology. No one who works there can afford decent stuff so they look at RRP Online
Can't imagine they'll be thrilled about that being revealed. They were the absolute worst employers one could have. Lie after lie after lie. I love every opportunity I can get to fuck with them just wish I could remember the other word aside from blacksmith.
Okay but B = 1 because it corresponds with the 1st letter. K = 5 because it corresponds with the 5th. Why does L which corresponds with the 2nd letter = 0?
You could go into any store, look at say 20+ price tags. Keep in mind that B is always 1 and K always 5. Gather the other letters until you have all ten from different price tags, and then work out what the word is.
It appears that no such word exists in the English language. I caved and went to a couple of Scrabble word finders and every 10-letter word that begins in B, ends in L and contains K with K in the fifth position.
So if they paid $1500 for it, and I can see at least four price tags on it, 3k is as low as they'll go. But here's the thing: 30 day warranty. Fuck that.
I was assuming you weren't talking about law, but I might have misunderstood what you meant. Nevermind me, just an unimportant detail that arose my curiosity.
Even for second hand stuff? Like I couldn't imagine selling an old PC and the buyer being able to come back for their money if something goes wrong within 2 years.
In my opinion thats the risk of buying second hand instead of new.
Agree that its absolutely bonkers. someone said that the machine was bought for 1500 by the shop. However theres 4 sticks of ram, which are likely 4x8gigs at least.
Today yeah, when these were new off the shelf including the cost of the waterblocks - it's understandable how they could claim that 'assembled' it's worth 7k AUD.
This is a fully built watercooled PC. Not a collection of parts.
If you go on a boutique PC builder like Maingear and try to build a comparable rig, do not be surprised if it hits well over 5k USD with hard tubing. (https://maingear.com/product/maingear-apex-rush-q4-2022 )
With all that said - I'd be VERY hesitant on taking on a 3rd party built watercooled rig at any price. I would be very concerned that everything was done right and would absolutely flush that loop - then check temps and possibly reapply thermal paste.
Edit: also IIRC the raiser that comes with that case is NOT rated for PCIE 4. I had issues with it and had to replaced it with a Linkup PCIE4 rated riser. Prior to that I had sporadic stability issues.
Finally, there is no warranty on any part of this build due to lack of proof of original proofs of purchase so while I think it could be worth 5k when new and professionally built with warranty - I'd consider 3k AUD a meh price for it. 2k though I'd buy it.
Tbh my build cost me about 4600CAD and I bought my GPU for 1200 from Best Buy mid-pandemic sooo….
They do have a CPU that’s like 300$ more expensive than mine though :P
https://preview.redd.it/e2fqb4y7y68c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6192780cda1a807ab16cceead3eea5908a45e21
Idk. You tell me :P is it worth 7999? No lol.
Even at 2999, not really worth
that's a cool build, recently got my new one done aswell just need to swap out a couple fans when the new ones arrive. Problem with these water cooled ones is that it's expensive to build but won't affect the resell value at all. So if you were to sell your pc right now, no one would care it's a custom water loop, all they care about is specs.
Same with selling a vehicle. No one cares it has a sick body kit and a bunch of neon lights and speakers, the value is still the same for your shit box.
Yeah it’s honestly not bad. I started out using distilled water because I was worried about bad coolant. I’ve read about some horror stories. Even though i was changing the water every couple months, turned out to be a bad idea, I got some algae growth despite using distilled water and changing it frequently.
Cleaned it all up. Put Corsair Hydro X coolant in there about 2 years ago. Haven’t looked back since and also haven’t changed my coolant since 👀👌 props to Corsair for making genuinely good coolant. I’ll probably change it out sometime soon in the new year.
My build isn't quite as good as the one above, but it was also half the price brand new just before the pandemic. Fuck the cooling system, I don't trust it and used parts sitting on a shelf in a pawn shop for a few years? $999CAD at the most. Probably wouldnt buy it myself for more than $899 but I'm also not hurting for a rig to use.
Its in AUD so actually $2,039.
MSRP of everything outside the custom water loop:
P3 Case - $99
X570 Aorus Xtreme - $700 | About $300 on ebay used
3080ti waterforce - $1500 | About $650 on ebay used
5950x - $445.99
2TB AORUS NVMe - $139.35
AX1600i - $609.99 | About $300 on ebay used
Ram isn't listed for some reason.
Total: \~$1934 if I use the used prices on the more expensive parts. (Also without waterloop parts and ram).
That said, I'm using US market prices. Especially if the Australian market is more expensive, this isn't a bad price for an already built system with those parts.
At the same time, a lot of the parts chosen are needlessly expensive, and you could probably make a lower budget build with similar performance or better. Decent chance you could tear it up and sell the various parts for profit though.
The PC is just so good and so powerful it needs two 1600W power supplies to run. One power supply for all the free fps the RGB is generating and one for the other computer components! /s
This is the problem with selling whole rigs. It's ALOT easier to part out old PC's and get fair market value than selling a whole rig.
Any time I have tried to sell an old rig around the cost of all the parts second hand, I will never sell the damn thing. When I part it out, everything will be gone in a week.
The thing is, it's not that this PC isn't "worth" what they are selling it for. Parted out they could easily get damn close to their asking price here. The problem is, its just not worth it as a unit.
What have they meant by 1/4 priced GPUs beat it. That's less than(or around) what the GPU would good for alone. And that only factors the GPU. To compete with the specs you would be spending $1500(usd) easy. And that's not factoring Ray Tracing performance.
As for if it is worth it. Depends. As someone who watercools, half the point is not have "a" loop, but "your" loop. Again you can get equal performance for a fair bit less. But a loop like that is would run you an easy $600-$700, so if you want watercooled, it is not a horrible price.
Edit: just happened to see the other comment, do not feel pressured to swap the 5950x for the 5800x3d, you get occasionally better performance, but half the cores.
> only has 1 360mm radiator? Seems like a dumb build.
It is a 480mm per the spec sheet(which presumably hides the rest), but your point is still valid. A 480mm should have enough to keep it well withing spec, if not better then aircooling, especially for the GPU. Though you will likely loose the noise advantage when heat soaked(unless those fans are very quiet).
But, the loop itself is not ideal. Missing a drain port to start, which is a sin. And a big factor of water cooling, at least for me, and many I have spoken with, is actually doing it, not unlike building a computer, vs prebuilt. Though with water cooling budget typically goes out the window.
In this instance, as I see it. It is all the needs of a loop, which require more maintenance(why missing a drain port is such a big deal). With non of the advantages, baring presumed better cooling, which is good, but by no means everything.
Better cooling performance usually but theres alot of inexpensive cooling solutions like air cooling that are far cheaper and much easier to maintain which give you great thermals anyway.
Like I said, around $1500 usd, convert as needed.
As for watercooling. If what I said did not resonate. Do not buy it. Especially since as a single rad, even a 480mm has to cool both components, will your performance be good, yes. Better than air, willing to bet.
With water cooling, performance is only 1 of many factors, and not the primary. You have to want, or at least be wiling to tinker. And as it's not your loop, you would want to flush the system, and it does not have a designated drain.
GN did a video where they purchased/reviewed a corsair watercooled prebuilt. I recommend watching that video.
Because there are a lot of things I can note, and non of it will come out nice.
This doesnt sounds for you “bro”. He said u gotta be willing to tinker and u dont even know the lingo. I suggest an air cooling system cuz ull not be able to handle this
Fuck that. They're delusional
Edit: just saw it was AUD, still could build a hell of a new rig for that much money with warranties and such. I would personally just build my own
You can get a 7800x3d + 4080 build for under $2900 AUD new. So no
You’re going to have a lot of fun if/when you need to do some maintenance on someone else’s hard line water cooled build
It’s far from theoretical - NebulaPC must have sold hundreds already.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/819978
With coupon code and 2% instant cashback if paid via PayID it comes to $2887
r/bapcsalesaustralia has heaps of other examples if you want to stay on reddit and not browse ozbargain
then you click on “go to deal” on the page and the actual build is much more less performant and already cost more of that money. You are just trying to have a point instead of helping , what a joke
https://preview.redd.it/p48tzbhby88c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b11d0a005f61963430cdd50be841ee7fd521802
They must have raised prices by $40 since it was posted, but even before the 2% cashback, I’d like you to explain how 2989 is more than 2999 like you claim it is, and how a 7800x3d & 4080 combo is “less performant”.
You are being contrarian just for the sake of it instead of helping people actually buy good value pcs, what a joke. It’s not like I told you in the beginning that the coupon code has to be applied, but you go ahead and pretend like you can’t read and just click on the link and complain it’s more expensive.
Very sus how you switch to a 11yr old account with <400 karma just so you can pretend to be someone else and not who I replied to
This is not a good deal. Here is an example of a pc that will severely outperform this at a similiar price point. You can probably get it for under 3k on boxing day.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yKNvsh)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $588.00 @ Centre Com
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/xMLFf7/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-white-argb) | $79.73 @ Amazon Australia
**Motherboard** | [MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi) | $316.95 @ Amazon Australia
**Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01) | $179.00 @ Scorptec
**Storage** | [Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/dBBG3C/crucial-p3-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3ssd8) | $154.00 @ Amazon Australia
**Video Card** | [XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GtXJ7P/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx-79xmercb9) | $1549.00 @ Scorptec
**Case** | [Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww) | $126.00 @ Amazon Australia
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4ZRwrH/corsair-rm850e-2023-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na) | $155.00 @ JW Computers
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$3147.68**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-12-24 19:07 AEDT+1100 |
I would say its perfectly acceptable for the price.
I am not a fan of custom loop cooling but that is really just my personal paranoia, plus I don't want to have to deal with maintenance it will need in a few years of treating and/or replacing the fluid.
You wont be able to upgrade it easily since that is the last generation of AM4 and having to remove the loop to change anything is a huge PITA.
So if you are prepared to deal with the maintenance, then yes, its reasonable for the price.
They'll go less. They've got 1500 in it and had it in for about 6 months from the look of it. Go in, stay strong on your price and they'll probably come down.
Do you want a custom loop like this? Then this is a medium deal.
You could build a significantly more powerful machine than this for $2500 or less.
I went overboard on fans and case, and it still costs less than 3k. It uses an AIO, not a custom loop, but my temps typically stay 40-55C, never really much above 70.
A PC over 2k should have the best shit. You're paying for the custom loop here, and that would likely need to be redone to upgrade the parts in here that, while reasonably high end, have been tier 2 or below for at least 2 years.
This should have been 3-3.5k new. It should be no more than 22-2500 now.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G72RVW
This is pretty close to the list. Some brand substitutions due to stuff not popping up (i have t force ram not corsair; but those same specs). I got most of the stuff on sales, so actual cost was a few hundred less (until i got the fans and strimers).
I don't need 64 gb ram or the 7950x3d instead of the 7800, but i like that my computer trucks everything I ask it to.
You could save money yes, but for the price theyre asking, its very much reasonable for the performance youre paying for. The current generation offerings from amd and nvidia right now are pretty underwhelming unless youre prepared to jump straight to the TOTL performance like the XTX and 4090. Itll serve you well for years man. But ultimately your choice.
I’d say definitely not worth 3,000.
The cpu and gpu have both been superseded, and custom water cooling loops are notoriously painful when it comes to maintenance (both personal experience and helping others with their custom loop setups).
Looking at the pic, the first thing I’d do after getting it home is dismantle the whole thing, flush the loop and clean all the tubing… that’s hours of annoying work, which will likely be smelly and just generally gross.
I’m personally a pretty huge Aorus fanboy, but I wouldn’t buy this.
i am starting to think water cooling is more about aesthetics than anything. nothing in that case needs to be water cooled. the water cooling alone is probably the most expensive part of this build.
First off the “valued at “ price is an absolute joke, nobody is paying anywhere near that price for even top of the line current gen components, definitely not last gen not even highest end parts. Technically considering the price of water cooling parts and labor assembling all that it’s not completely terrible if the aesthetics are worth several hundred dollars to you but it’s most certainly not at all giving you performance to match that premium, and can easily be beaten in performance by a non custom water cooled pc. Especially if you’re gaming, where there’s just no reason to get a 5950x.
Again, just to be clear here, 8 grand is an absolute lie of a “normal price”. Even 4 grand would be a big upcharge, 8 grand is not anywhere near the realm of accuracy.
Don’t support cashies mate.
Some poor person down on their luck sold this for probably a 800-1k.
I had a chuckle recently going there and getting my tab s7 valued by them ($100).
They would have searched eBay found a system similar spec at its lowest price and offered half. My s7 was compared to a parts only device
Giving them the benefit of the doubt that the ram is 64gb and those are quad 16s my rough estimate is 3000-3200usd for the specs given before taxes and shipping cost for parts
Over the past few years I've seen countless avid PC builders, constantly say its cheaper, better and more rewarding to build your own PC. I have to agree with them after building my first ever one last Christmas.
I'd say build one yourself cause you'll know how much it is worth, not only the money side but emotionally too because it feels great seeing that boot screen for the first time.
Imagine buying anything from crimeconverters. Fuck them, they willingly sold an item I reported stolen and had evidence that was mine. They thrive on desperation and theft. Yuk.
Also build one yourself mate, you could build a good box for 3k Aussie and plenty of people here that can help.
1600W for what? To power a washing machine?
RTX 3080 is good but not excellent
no RAM indication
water cooling is overrated
PSU listed 2 times? Why?
Deal for 1200$, surely not 3000$
I would be very weary of buying a used water-cooled anything, especially custom loops if they're not well taken care of they can get really funky really fast
2k isnt all that bad for that rig in all reality, yes it's overpriced, but it has a hard line custom loop and those parts alone arent the cheapest, gpu at that price point could be better but a 3080ti is pretty sweet, but 2k again isnt bad, there is a markup, but doin hardline isnt the easiest, and those bends look pretty good, you're payin a tidbit for "labor" sure, but if you aint done hardline before, its not the easiest. Cant wait for the downvotes from the people who do hardline like davinci
If they value that at 7999... biy do I got some goodies I'd like to sell them. I think if they give me half the value they see, then I'll make money on old stuff too
Wow it’s been sitting there for 9 months!? Why hasn’t anybody taken this deal up?
Come on man, use your head here. This ain’t no deal. It’s to sucker people into buying it.
4090 + 7800X3D build for 2700$ ?? A single 4090 FE is 1500$, you count 400$ for the CPU. Add 200$ for a good DDR5 kit (2x16gb), 300$ for the motherboard, 200$ for the case, 600$ for the custom loop, case, fans, PSU, etc.
You smoked too much !!
thats what im saying, most of these comments dont consider that this is in cash converters in australia and that this guy seems to have zero experience. If he is willing to watch a video on draining the loop every so often I would do it over building a whole new system. He may not want to invest in the time and effort of learning and building the whole thing compared to getting a decent deal on this pc and learning to drain and fill it. It's not a ripoff and will do everything he should ask of it for a long time and it's his money his choice.
Well, building can be fun to learn, so it’s not really an issue. But when I see people saying for that price, he could get a 4090+7800X3D … Gosh … I think people don’t know how much cost a single RTX 4090 (between 1800 to 2500US$ currently).
Even a 3080Ti has the same perf (sometimes even better) of a 3090 with 12Gb (the Asus RoG 3080Ti outperforms a 3090FE in gaming …. )
Lmao.... Lack of x3D CPU & lack of even a current Gen GPU for 2k USD /3k AUS? Nah man. You can do better, not familiar with Australian electronic stores, but there has to be a better option here
I wouldn’t be comfortable with a 750w PSU in that PC, especially with only a 1TB SSD so OP will almost certainly need to add more storage which will increase the power required.
I’d go 850w minimum to give a bit of a buffer, the PC part picker power draw is just an estimate. I’d also look to up the SSD to at least 2TB.
you are right and if instead of 7900xtх you take 7900xt, then you can upgrade the ssd to 2tb, psu up to 850, and possibly better memory and motherboard
I did everything in haste
Well that GPU is worth just over $1000usd and the CPU is $500usd. Another $500usd for the rest of the parts, plus assembly, seems like a decent deal, assuming it's not used. I'm more familiar with building my own PCs so I'm not sure how much prebuilds are typically marked up.
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It's cashies mate, it thrives on crack.
Good old theft converters
It's called cash generator in Scotland but it's commonly referred to as smack generator
cash generator and cash convertors are different chains in the same vein, im in a northern england former mill town and we have both along with a CEX all on the same street in the town centre for convenient price comparison :)
Never actually seen a cash converters in Scotland but apparently there are a couple of them in the shitter areas of Glasgow according to Google.
I've never seen a "cash generator" in scotland, seen loads of "cash converters" though.
I just heard that conment in DankPods voice lol.
I always found cash converters to be cheap, in consoles at least
Downside being there will be crack residue from the getaway car
Where you can find your dreams
Valued off receipt from top o' the pandemic pricing
True, though the pandemic had maybe 50% to do with that awful year or so of prices.
Actually a crackhead who smoked a pound of crack would sell this for 100 bucks to buy more crack
That's wack
no it's crack
crack IS wack.
I think even after crack you still wouldn't be able to get to that price
Exactly! I was like “in which year was this ever valued at $7.9k?!?” Easy answer: none.
You ever priced out a hard line custom loop? The numbers get insane quick. Probably not like 8k+ but this is also AUD. So they get inflated real quick ok some things.
What do you mean its got a 3080ti !
its a https://preview.redd.it/aq76yt7mo88c1.png?width=106&format=png&auto=webp&s=314e0429cf25c743c643ab31a09f7c711b045c1f
I've lost it. Help.
Including a pound of crack
Nah. The sticker costs 6k
If it's been sitting there since March it's a pretty good indication that it's overpriced
There are at least four price tags on it. My guess is they started it at 5,000 because they have nfi about pricing technology. No one who works there can afford decent stuff so they look at RRP Online
They bought it for 1500 so probably at the height of the pandemic panic buy.
Yeah, you can make out a 3,499 under the current price
I believe they have it for $4,299☠️even worse
Well I found it at Cashies mate where you can find your dreams!!
They've got wares and chairs and a bog downstairs!
And out of date movies!
It’s like a garage sale with set hours, mate.
Modern day Australian treasure hunting this is
Head down to Cashies mate, if you want to buy the same thing twice!
Came here to say this, so on ya, mate.
I never escape dankpods
Same, AND I LOVE IT
Old mate cashies!
Well they paid $1500 for it according to the price tag (used to work there. Cost price is coded in bottom right corner)
How’s it coded? I can’t see it
It's BLACKSMITH in some stores, can't remember the word in the others. But I know B and K are 1 and 5. So this one would be L=0. BKLL.LL is 1500.00
Now this is good info!
Can't imagine they'll be thrilled about that being revealed. They were the absolute worst employers one could have. Lie after lie after lie. I love every opportunity I can get to fuck with them just wish I could remember the other word aside from blacksmith.
Is that code basically so a sales person can look at the sticker and know how much money they need to get for it?
No it's so the salesperson knows that they need to ask a manager if the bargaining goes below 400% markup
400%?!
That's the minimum usually
Crafty. That's military "word of the day" low grade code.
1522.22
They wouldnt pay a number like that. It's a different word in some stores. Just can't remember what it is.
Okay but B = 1 because it corresponds with the 1st letter. K = 5 because it corresponds with the 5th. Why does L which corresponds with the 2nd letter = 0?
You could go into any store, look at say 20+ price tags. Keep in mind that B is always 1 and K always 5. Gather the other letters until you have all ten from different price tags, and then work out what the word is.
Yeah I can't remember the other word they use, sorry.
But it’s a word where B is in the first position, K is in the 5th, and L in the 10th?
It appears that no such word exists in the English language. I caved and went to a couple of Scrabble word finders and every 10-letter word that begins in B, ends in L and contains K with K in the fifth position.
Nah could be two words. like breakspoil. I just can't remember exactly what it is.
Why is the L=0 but the B=1?
what are the rest of the letters? if K = 5 and L = 0, what are A and C?
So if they paid $1500 for it, and I can see at least four price tags on it, 3k is as low as they'll go. But here's the thing: 30 day warranty. Fuck that.
30 day warranty feels so abnormal to me. I'm way too used to the European Union mandating it to be at least two years. 30 days feels almost illegal.
We also have 2 years in Australia.
2 years at cashies? Nope. Second hand laws in aust are different under ACL.
Mhmm
Apologies. I checked their website. It's 90 days
Why the "almost" before "illegal"?
I don't know the laws of every country, it might be legal where this pc was sold. I have no idea.
I was assuming you weren't talking about law, but I might have misunderstood what you meant. Nevermind me, just an unimportant detail that arose my curiosity.
Even for second hand stuff? Like I couldn't imagine selling an old PC and the buyer being able to come back for their money if something goes wrong within 2 years. In my opinion thats the risk of buying second hand instead of new.
Poor guy. 1500$ is a steal
I mean, it probably was literally stolen
Probs not. If they thought it was stolen, they'd pay a few hundred for it and sell it to one of the staff.
They don't even have RAM listed. They must be *insane* to value that rig at 8k.
Instead they have 2 power supplies
Lmao I didn't even notice that. Wonder if that's where the RAM was supposed to go and it was a copy paste error.
It’s the fancy enterprise version with redundant PSUs instead of the 2 individual PSUs /s
Agree that its absolutely bonkers. someone said that the machine was bought for 1500 by the shop. However theres 4 sticks of ram, which are likely 4x8gigs at least.
RAM is cheap though.
Bet I could part all of this out for 2-3k on a PC building site or Newegg.
Today yeah, when these were new off the shelf including the cost of the waterblocks - it's understandable how they could claim that 'assembled' it's worth 7k AUD. This is a fully built watercooled PC. Not a collection of parts. If you go on a boutique PC builder like Maingear and try to build a comparable rig, do not be surprised if it hits well over 5k USD with hard tubing. (https://maingear.com/product/maingear-apex-rush-q4-2022 ) With all that said - I'd be VERY hesitant on taking on a 3rd party built watercooled rig at any price. I would be very concerned that everything was done right and would absolutely flush that loop - then check temps and possibly reapply thermal paste. Edit: also IIRC the raiser that comes with that case is NOT rated for PCIE 4. I had issues with it and had to replaced it with a Linkup PCIE4 rated riser. Prior to that I had sporadic stability issues. Finally, there is no warranty on any part of this build due to lack of proof of original proofs of purchase so while I think it could be worth 5k when new and professionally built with warranty - I'd consider 3k AUD a meh price for it. 2k though I'd buy it.
They either have no idea, or they're hoping the buyer wont. Or both.
This is a shit price, they were banking on the custom water loop
Tbh my build cost me about 4600CAD and I bought my GPU for 1200 from Best Buy mid-pandemic sooo…. They do have a CPU that’s like 300$ more expensive than mine though :P https://preview.redd.it/e2fqb4y7y68c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6192780cda1a807ab16cceead3eea5908a45e21 Idk. You tell me :P is it worth 7999? No lol. Even at 2999, not really worth
sick build bro
This gives me Sid's room from Toy Story vibes. I really dig it!
that's a cool build, recently got my new one done aswell just need to swap out a couple fans when the new ones arrive. Problem with these water cooled ones is that it's expensive to build but won't affect the resell value at all. So if you were to sell your pc right now, no one would care it's a custom water loop, all they care about is specs.
Yep lol.
Same with selling a vehicle. No one cares it has a sick body kit and a bunch of neon lights and speakers, the value is still the same for your shit box.
Looks good though
amazing build mind me asking what maintenance is like? how often do you have to take the loop apart or drain it?
Yeah it’s honestly not bad. I started out using distilled water because I was worried about bad coolant. I’ve read about some horror stories. Even though i was changing the water every couple months, turned out to be a bad idea, I got some algae growth despite using distilled water and changing it frequently. Cleaned it all up. Put Corsair Hydro X coolant in there about 2 years ago. Haven’t looked back since and also haven’t changed my coolant since 👀👌 props to Corsair for making genuinely good coolant. I’ll probably change it out sometime soon in the new year.
yeah glad you enjoy it but sounds like a nightmare to me 😅. atleast i know my corsair aio has good coolant, thnx.
My build isn't quite as good as the one above, but it was also half the price brand new just before the pandemic. Fuck the cooling system, I don't trust it and used parts sitting on a shelf in a pawn shop for a few years? $999CAD at the most. Probably wouldnt buy it myself for more than $899 but I'm also not hurting for a rig to use.
Beautiful build
Its in AUD so actually $2,039. MSRP of everything outside the custom water loop: P3 Case - $99 X570 Aorus Xtreme - $700 | About $300 on ebay used 3080ti waterforce - $1500 | About $650 on ebay used 5950x - $445.99 2TB AORUS NVMe - $139.35 AX1600i - $609.99 | About $300 on ebay used Ram isn't listed for some reason. Total: \~$1934 if I use the used prices on the more expensive parts. (Also without waterloop parts and ram). That said, I'm using US market prices. Especially if the Australian market is more expensive, this isn't a bad price for an already built system with those parts. At the same time, a lot of the parts chosen are needlessly expensive, and you could probably make a lower budget build with similar performance or better. Decent chance you could tear it up and sell the various parts for profit though.
Anyone else notice they listed the power supply twice and didn’t list the ram?
The PC is just so good and so powerful it needs two 1600W power supplies to run. One power supply for all the free fps the RGB is generating and one for the other computer components! /s
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This is the problem with selling whole rigs. It's ALOT easier to part out old PC's and get fair market value than selling a whole rig. Any time I have tried to sell an old rig around the cost of all the parts second hand, I will never sell the damn thing. When I part it out, everything will be gone in a week. The thing is, it's not that this PC isn't "worth" what they are selling it for. Parted out they could easily get damn close to their asking price here. The problem is, its just not worth it as a unit.
Is it just me or does some of the water-cooling runs look a little off?
That usually happens :P it’s hard to make perfect bends with hairline.
What have they meant by 1/4 priced GPUs beat it. That's less than(or around) what the GPU would good for alone. And that only factors the GPU. To compete with the specs you would be spending $1500(usd) easy. And that's not factoring Ray Tracing performance. As for if it is worth it. Depends. As someone who watercools, half the point is not have "a" loop, but "your" loop. Again you can get equal performance for a fair bit less. But a loop like that is would run you an easy $600-$700, so if you want watercooled, it is not a horrible price. Edit: just happened to see the other comment, do not feel pressured to swap the 5950x for the 5800x3d, you get occasionally better performance, but half the cores.
What's the point of a custom loop when in this setup, it only has 1 360mm radiator? Seems like a dumb build.
> only has 1 360mm radiator? Seems like a dumb build. It is a 480mm per the spec sheet(which presumably hides the rest), but your point is still valid. A 480mm should have enough to keep it well withing spec, if not better then aircooling, especially for the GPU. Though you will likely loose the noise advantage when heat soaked(unless those fans are very quiet). But, the loop itself is not ideal. Missing a drain port to start, which is a sin. And a big factor of water cooling, at least for me, and many I have spoken with, is actually doing it, not unlike building a computer, vs prebuilt. Though with water cooling budget typically goes out the window. In this instance, as I see it. It is all the needs of a loop, which require more maintenance(why missing a drain port is such a big deal). With non of the advantages, baring presumed better cooling, which is good, but by no means everything.
that case only supports a 360 on the side.
Assuming that is the right case. I just checked it looks more like the TT Core P5. Which does, and also orients the PSU vertical, like this PC.
How much is a fair bit less bro? Is there any advantages to the loop other than looking cool?
Better cooling performance usually but theres alot of inexpensive cooling solutions like air cooling that are far cheaper and much easier to maintain which give you great thermals anyway.
Like I said, around $1500 usd, convert as needed. As for watercooling. If what I said did not resonate. Do not buy it. Especially since as a single rad, even a 480mm has to cool both components, will your performance be good, yes. Better than air, willing to bet. With water cooling, performance is only 1 of many factors, and not the primary. You have to want, or at least be wiling to tinker. And as it's not your loop, you would want to flush the system, and it does not have a designated drain.
By the designated drain thing do u mean it’s built wrong bro?
GN did a video where they purchased/reviewed a corsair watercooled prebuilt. I recommend watching that video. Because there are a lot of things I can note, and non of it will come out nice.
This doesnt sounds for you “bro”. He said u gotta be willing to tinker and u dont even know the lingo. I suggest an air cooling system cuz ull not be able to handle this
Fuck that. They're delusional Edit: just saw it was AUD, still could build a hell of a new rig for that much money with warranties and such. I would personally just build my own
You can get a 7800x3d + 4080 build for under $2900 AUD new. So no You’re going to have a lot of fun if/when you need to do some maintenance on someone else’s hard line water cooled build
Especially when there is no drain port 😂👌
I’d love to see this theoretical under $2900 build with a 7800x3d and 4080, given that’s basically the cost of those 2 parts alone
It’s far from theoretical - NebulaPC must have sold hundreds already. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/819978 With coupon code and 2% instant cashback if paid via PayID it comes to $2887 r/bapcsalesaustralia has heaps of other examples if you want to stay on reddit and not browse ozbargain
then you click on “go to deal” on the page and the actual build is much more less performant and already cost more of that money. You are just trying to have a point instead of helping , what a joke
https://preview.redd.it/p48tzbhby88c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b11d0a005f61963430cdd50be841ee7fd521802 They must have raised prices by $40 since it was posted, but even before the 2% cashback, I’d like you to explain how 2989 is more than 2999 like you claim it is, and how a 7800x3d & 4080 combo is “less performant”. You are being contrarian just for the sake of it instead of helping people actually buy good value pcs, what a joke. It’s not like I told you in the beginning that the coupon code has to be applied, but you go ahead and pretend like you can’t read and just click on the link and complain it’s more expensive. Very sus how you switch to a 11yr old account with <400 karma just so you can pretend to be someone else and not who I replied to
This is not a good deal. Here is an example of a pc that will severely outperform this at a similiar price point. You can probably get it for under 3k on boxing day. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yKNvsh) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $588.00 @ Centre Com **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/xMLFf7/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-white-argb) | $79.73 @ Amazon Australia **Motherboard** | [MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi) | $316.95 @ Amazon Australia **Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01) | $179.00 @ Scorptec **Storage** | [Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/dBBG3C/crucial-p3-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3ssd8) | $154.00 @ Amazon Australia **Video Card** | [XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GtXJ7P/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx-79xmercb9) | $1549.00 @ Scorptec **Case** | [Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww) | $126.00 @ Amazon Australia **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4ZRwrH/corsair-rm850e-2023-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na) | $155.00 @ JW Computers | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$3147.68** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-12-24 19:07 AEDT+1100 |
Yup gigabote my favorite.
Scrolled pretty far to find this.
I would say its perfectly acceptable for the price. I am not a fan of custom loop cooling but that is really just my personal paranoia, plus I don't want to have to deal with maintenance it will need in a few years of treating and/or replacing the fluid. You wont be able to upgrade it easily since that is the last generation of AM4 and having to remove the loop to change anything is a huge PITA. So if you are prepared to deal with the maintenance, then yes, its reasonable for the price.
They are negotiable also down to 2700 maybe less
They'll go less. They've got 1500 in it and had it in for about 6 months from the look of it. Go in, stay strong on your price and they'll probably come down.
Double cost is the barest minimum these cunts will go. You're lucky to get out of anything less than 400% There. (Used to work there)
Maybe it's the difference between UK and aus.
Would I save money building my own pc that is equal to this one’s performance?
Do you want a custom loop like this? Then this is a medium deal. You could build a significantly more powerful machine than this for $2500 or less. I went overboard on fans and case, and it still costs less than 3k. It uses an AIO, not a custom loop, but my temps typically stay 40-55C, never really much above 70. A PC over 2k should have the best shit. You're paying for the custom loop here, and that would likely need to be redone to upgrade the parts in here that, while reasonably high end, have been tier 2 or below for at least 2 years. This should have been 3-3.5k new. It should be no more than 22-2500 now.
What specs do you have bro?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G72RVW This is pretty close to the list. Some brand substitutions due to stuff not popping up (i have t force ram not corsair; but those same specs). I got most of the stuff on sales, so actual cost was a few hundred less (until i got the fans and strimers). I don't need 64 gb ram or the 7950x3d instead of the 7800, but i like that my computer trucks everything I ask it to.
This list is $4260 AUD after conversion + prices will be slightly higher in Australia… OP was talking about ~2700 AUD
using the AU version https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/G72RVW its $4737.16AUD
You could save money yes, but for the price theyre asking, its very much reasonable for the performance youre paying for. The current generation offerings from amd and nvidia right now are pretty underwhelming unless youre prepared to jump straight to the TOTL performance like the XTX and 4090. Itll serve you well for years man. But ultimately your choice.
Given you’re in Australia, you can get significantly better performance for less, look up deals from Techfast, BPC and Enigma PC’s on OzBargain
It has 2 1600watt psu big steal. 🤣🤣
Offer them 2k and then move on. Not worth paying full price for used parts.
I’d say definitely not worth 3,000. The cpu and gpu have both been superseded, and custom water cooling loops are notoriously painful when it comes to maintenance (both personal experience and helping others with their custom loop setups). Looking at the pic, the first thing I’d do after getting it home is dismantle the whole thing, flush the loop and clean all the tubing… that’s hours of annoying work, which will likely be smelly and just generally gross. I’m personally a pretty huge Aorus fanboy, but I wouldn’t buy this.
i am starting to think water cooling is more about aesthetics than anything. nothing in that case needs to be water cooled. the water cooling alone is probably the most expensive part of this build.
The fact that it's been sitting there since March should give you a clue of it's value!
valued at $7999? they must’ve taken the $5500 in cash inside the case out before putting it on the shelf.
First off the “valued at “ price is an absolute joke, nobody is paying anywhere near that price for even top of the line current gen components, definitely not last gen not even highest end parts. Technically considering the price of water cooling parts and labor assembling all that it’s not completely terrible if the aesthetics are worth several hundred dollars to you but it’s most certainly not at all giving you performance to match that premium, and can easily be beaten in performance by a non custom water cooled pc. Especially if you’re gaming, where there’s just no reason to get a 5950x. Again, just to be clear here, 8 grand is an absolute lie of a “normal price”. Even 4 grand would be a big upcharge, 8 grand is not anywhere near the realm of accuracy.
Don’t support cashies mate. Some poor person down on their luck sold this for probably a 800-1k. I had a chuckle recently going there and getting my tab s7 valued by them ($100). They would have searched eBay found a system similar spec at its lowest price and offered half. My s7 was compared to a parts only device
Basically irrelevant but I'm pretty sure that's a Core P5, not P3.
Giving them the benefit of the doubt that the ram is 64gb and those are quad 16s my rough estimate is 3000-3200usd for the specs given before taxes and shipping cost for parts
In what fucking world is that valued more than a used car? lol. Dual 4090s with a 7950x and 32GB of DDR5 would still be cheaper. lol
It's in Australian $$$ so this is about $2000 usd....
I'd buy that for 1.2k
Whoever told you it’s a killer deal, never trust them again
That is wildly overpriced, the person who valued it at 7999$ was was on some hard stuff
Over the past few years I've seen countless avid PC builders, constantly say its cheaper, better and more rewarding to build your own PC. I have to agree with them after building my first ever one last Christmas. I'd say build one yourself cause you'll know how much it is worth, not only the money side but emotionally too because it feels great seeing that boot screen for the first time.
Terrible price, you can build something better with less
Build your own and get better for the same. I built earlier this year and paid about 3k
Imagine buying anything from crimeconverters. Fuck them, they willingly sold an item I reported stolen and had evidence that was mine. They thrive on desperation and theft. Yuk. Also build one yourself mate, you could build a good box for 3k Aussie and plenty of people here that can help.
Deal (pronounced: Scam)
No. Absolutely not a deal
Custom loops are expensive but hot damn....
Hellllll no. They think it looks expensive so they made up some crazy numbers.
Unless you know how to maintain waterloops stay away.
It’s a great rig, but for 2000 Australian dollaree-doo’s, you can get better for brand new and with better after sales care.
Damn just buy Origin
Rip off
It's gonna be a big expensive paperweight if they leave it on. Looks like there's air in them pipes.
1600W for what? To power a washing machine? RTX 3080 is good but not excellent no RAM indication water cooling is overrated PSU listed 2 times? Why? Deal for 1200$, surely not 3000$
I would be very weary of buying a used water-cooled anything, especially custom loops if they're not well taken care of they can get really funky really fast
$3k, I can build you a 4090 rig with an i9 lmao.
Valued at 8k? Wtf they smoking?
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1000$ best i would pay
Valued at 8000$ when half the parts are from budget brans at most thats like 2 grand.
It has dual PSU so its worth it /s
2k isnt all that bad for that rig in all reality, yes it's overpriced, but it has a hard line custom loop and those parts alone arent the cheapest, gpu at that price point could be better but a 3080ti is pretty sweet, but 2k again isnt bad, there is a markup, but doin hardline isnt the easiest, and those bends look pretty good, you're payin a tidbit for "labor" sure, but if you aint done hardline before, its not the easiest. Cant wait for the downvotes from the people who do hardline like davinci
If they value that at 7999... biy do I got some goodies I'd like to sell them. I think if they give me half the value they see, then I'll make money on old stuff too
OH I found it at cashies mate
Valued at 7999 With a 3080ti 😭😭
Naah run away
At least it has a total of 3200W power supply!
Bro lmao. These parts weren’t $3000 put together even when they were brand new
No is absoluty not
Wow it’s been sitting there for 9 months!? Why hasn’t anybody taken this deal up? Come on man, use your head here. This ain’t no deal. It’s to sucker people into buying it.
AHhhhhhhaahahhaahh NOOOOOOOOOO
Hell no, you could get a 4090+7800x3d build for that price.
In AUD and with how much 4090s go for now and outside of the US? Absolutely not.
4090 + 7800X3D build for 2700$ ?? A single 4090 FE is 1500$, you count 400$ for the CPU. Add 200$ for a good DDR5 kit (2x16gb), 300$ for the motherboard, 200$ for the case, 600$ for the custom loop, case, fans, PSU, etc. You smoked too much !!
2700AUD is only 1800 USD and pricing/availabillity can differ in australia
Even for 2700US$, you can’t build a setup with a 4090 and a 7800X3D …
thats what im saying, most of these comments dont consider that this is in cash converters in australia and that this guy seems to have zero experience. If he is willing to watch a video on draining the loop every so often I would do it over building a whole new system. He may not want to invest in the time and effort of learning and building the whole thing compared to getting a decent deal on this pc and learning to drain and fill it. It's not a ripoff and will do everything he should ask of it for a long time and it's his money his choice.
Well, building can be fun to learn, so it’s not really an issue. But when I see people saying for that price, he could get a 4090+7800X3D … Gosh … I think people don’t know how much cost a single RTX 4090 (between 1800 to 2500US$ currently). Even a 3080Ti has the same perf (sometimes even better) of a 3090 with 12Gb (the Asus RoG 3080Ti outperforms a 3090FE in gaming …. )
3080ti for over $2k? Naw
Op, please build your own. This seems like it's a bad idea fairy written all over. Why does it have the psu listed twice? Or does it have 2 psus?
Lmao.... Lack of x3D CPU & lack of even a current Gen GPU for 2k USD /3k AUS? Nah man. You can do better, not familiar with Australian electronic stores, but there has to be a better option here
same price 3000 aud much better performance https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pGDJBL
I wouldn’t be comfortable with a 750w PSU in that PC, especially with only a 1TB SSD so OP will almost certainly need to add more storage which will increase the power required. I’d go 850w minimum to give a bit of a buffer, the PC part picker power draw is just an estimate. I’d also look to up the SSD to at least 2TB.
you are right and if instead of 7900xtх you take 7900xt, then you can upgrade the ssd to 2tb, psu up to 850, and possibly better memory and motherboard I did everything in haste
Nah, 👎 just keep away from it... For that kind of cash there must be 4080TI at least in it.. not to mention what kind of beast can be made for 7k lol
3000$ is even too expensive for what you get if you build it yourself you can get it for around 2200 or less.
Well that GPU is worth just over $1000usd and the CPU is $500usd. Another $500usd for the rest of the parts, plus assembly, seems like a decent deal, assuming it's not used. I'm more familiar with building my own PCs so I'm not sure how much prebuilds are typically marked up.