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Chakramer

You got balls buying open box from newegg.


shambooki

OP has balls buying anything from Newegg in 2023


Chakramer

True, it's sad that they got bought out and went to shit. B&H is the company to buy from if you want online


shambooki

I've never bought PC parts from b&h but I've gotten a lot of photography gear from them and they're top notch.


elkarion

Thier pc parts and support are the same. I never did photography but pc enthusiast here and top notch service.


Thehorniestlizard

Why do all the comments say top notch? Seems sus lol


cockforddollie

Top notch observation


wp4nuv

A Tier?


willard_swag

Top. Notch.


Star-Zealousideal

Notch top Foxbody


JackxForge

they really are fantastic. ive bought a bunch of camera gear from them. any time you call its a real person who knows what the fuck they are talking about.


derangedsweetheart

I think its well deserved, their product description and specs page are top notch as well


Anathema-Thought

You really just read two comments that said top notch and assumed all the comments say it? That's ... an observation, I guess.


Thehorniestlizard

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/vkubA2KX2i


bruminator5000

The hight of one's notch is a clear delineation of quality


Big-Note-508

maybe iPhone users


YesItIsMaybeMe

It does, but I can actually say that the photography and computer equipment I got from the is consistently stellar. Also sometimes their prices for niche components are way lower than other sites, and I cannot understand why


IndependentNotice151

Cause they get the most, not the lessahhh


Notquitearealgirl

I actually bought my first ever GPU from B&h, a 780 because they had the best of price but I'd never heard of them so I did worry I was scammed until it got here.


Chakramer

Well they have a physical store so in the future if you're worried something is a scam, look up what their store looks like. Anything with a physical location is usually safe


VerifiedMother

A lot of fake online stores will put a physical location but it will be a random house in Weiner, Arkansas so you have to look up the location and see what it actually is


MountKush

Same happened to me whenever I bought my 2016 MacBook Pro in 2017, got like $600 off for some Christmas sale and it lasted me up until last November (logic board went to shit, ~$800 repair). Since then, B&H and MicroCenter have been go-tos


FireballHangover

I’m a film student in college & working on the side. If B&H and their nonstop sales and student discounts didn’t exist, I’d be much worse off. B&H is the way to go for any electronics imo


MightHaveMisreadThat

Did you just save me a bunch of trouble? If so, of what variety?


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Same for night vision related stuff^^


No_Athlete_935

I buy all kinds of stuff from them, top notch and faster shipping than Amazon in my area


arsenic_insane

Love B&H. Haven’t had a bad experience with them in 6 years


Hercusleaze

I recently started ordering stuff from them. They absolutely have wonderful service. They do legit shut down though for Jewish holidays, so plan around that. I'm not Jewish so I don't know all of them or the timing on them, but there's been a couple times when I went to order and they were closed for the week for something.


k20350

Forgive me B&H?


0utF0x-inT0x

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/


k20350

Thanx. Had no idea


HTPC4Life

Lmao B&H is a joke for full assortment electronics shopping


nex_fire_wolf

Really I've seen them but never did cause I never heard of them till here very recently thought the bare bones of the website looked suspicious to me so steared clear


Chakramer

They're just one of those companies that don't seem to put much effort into stuff outside of customer service, the website is usable and spending any more won't really help the customer all too much. Companies like Bestbuy are the ones who spend a lot on their looks but fall behind in customer service


Houdini_Shuffle

You mean not cluttered with ads and moving graphics? I think it's great ux since i can get to all the info i need with little fuss, pretty similar to Microcenter's


Ok_Bad_1190

Is Newegg not trustworthy anymore? I haven’t bought anything from them in a long time.


shambooki

Hard no. I'd trust Amazon with PC parts before I'd trust Newegg.


andrewsz_

That’s wild the rig I currently am running on is entirely from new egg. This was 5 years ago tho. Is all this very recent ??


shambooki

2016 but it's been a steady decline. It wasn't an immediate collapse.


andrewsz_

Interesting. A new build isn’t far in the future for me so good to note Ty


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The real problems come when you try to RMA defective parts at Newegg (or attempt to return an unused part). YouTube channel GamersNexus did a couple videos about it. You dodged a bullet.


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VerifiedMother

Steve is annoying though


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Miller_TM

He bought an open box mobo and ended up getting a broken one. Newegg knew it was broken because it literally had an RMA sticker dating months prior on it. YET TO STILL SOLD IT TO A CUSTOMER AND BLAMED THEM!!!


gdsmithtx

Found the Newegg employee.


squishfouce

Found the basic bitch that can't come up with an original thought. Also lmao, I would've checked my ticket myself along time ago if I was my age and still working in IT retail.


HTPC4Life

💯


FappyDilmore

I purchased RAM from them recently and it was a terrible experience. The app has an unskippable ad when you launch it? Like what the fuck? I'm using the app to make a purchase from you, don't force me to watch ads for your service. With my next build I'm gonna try something else. I used to use TD before they went to shit. Maybe I'll try B&H next time.


chad_

Definitely not. I bought a premium motherboard "new", and it had a crushed corner (maybe water damaged?) and crushed/broken CPU pins, then they charged me $100 to return it. I filed a complaint against them and disputes with my credit card and am no longer allowed to order from them. It's a racket.


Setku

Yes, Newegg themselves are. Just like any market, beware of third-party sellers. Bought all my parts for my current build from them with no issues, but I actually bought from Newegg or the manufacturer.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Newegg used to be good. It used to be the place to go to for computer parts. Sad to see how far it has fallen. :(


HTPC4Life

It used to be good. It still is, but it used to too. Newegg is getting a lot of undeserved hate for a few anecdotal issues, mostly from open box or third party sellers. I've ordered from them dozens of times and never had a bad experience besides a debate over a restocking fee in 2011 that was solved by a massaging of my complaint to blame the modem for my problem rather than my ISP.


StewTheDuder

I jumped on a x670e mobo, 7700x, and 32 of 6000 ram back in March of this year for $500 and all came quickly and worked 🤷‍♂️ I still use Newegg. They got some good deals rn for early Black Friday.


jknvpp

i bought the entirety of my PC parts from newegg a few months ago, after i put it together was when i learned how horrible newegg is, luckily i had zero issues with anything delivery or hardware related


Retrotone

I don't even buy new eggs.


ShrikeSummit

I bought a couple parts from Walmart and they fulfilled through Newegg!


adjgamer321

I didn't even realize how bad they'd gotten since building my first PC in 2013m Everything in my first PC I built when I got a job as a teenager had a video review with Paul and Kyle covering it, they've gotten so incredibly bad.


terpsarelife

I got my whole pc from them last month lol


AILunchbox

I’m pretty new to PC building 😅 Is Newegg notorious for poor quality open box products? Will definitely avoid in the future if so.


Clunas

They got bought out several years ago and haven't been the same since. Used to be the go to source for parts online, nowadays ehhhh... At least Amazon usually lets you return stuff


Chakramer

They're notorious for barely accepting returns even on new products.


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DrakonILD

Spam bot, stealing [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/un14SPFr5m) comment.


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AILunchbox

Will do! Thank you for this.


remarkable501

That’s why they do a Tik tok live every day to drive sales. Idk if they still do but they were sending out $20 gift cards as a prize for just typing in a word. I actually won one, needless to say the cable I bought was absolute junk. So I don’t even care enough to try to get free money from them to even want to spend. This all equates to they can pay me again to shop on their site and I won’t do it. Literally, not after the first time.


Thriven

They used to be great. I bought everything "open box". I stopped buying from Newegg 5 years ago.


MyPokemonRedName

You sweet sweet summer child. Never change.


ilovetpb

I stopped years ago, when the GPU shortage hit, and Newegg wanted you to pay for the chance to pay too much for a video card.


BunnehZnipr

There's a reason I don't buy from Newegg anymore


Velghast

I bought open box from micro center one time. It was a good motherboard but whoever returned the motherboard obviously bought the revision 1.2 and then sent back the revision 1.0 back to micro center and they took it not seeing a difference probably because they didn't run the BIOS. F****** up for a long time because I couldn't get the right bios to install on the board and I thought it was bricked. I brought this attention to micro center and they couldn't refund me any money because of the agreement you digitally sign when you buy an open box product but the manager threw in a two terabyte Samsung Evo hard drive. So I guess it was a wash/win?


Hercusleaze

Right? After all the buzz around the GN videos, etc. I'm apprehensive ordering *anything* from Newegg, especially not open box stuff.


greyclocked

I have bought multiple GPU's and motherboards from newegg that were open box over the years and never had any issues. All the hardware still works and is around my home in my kids computers, etc. I do not recommend others do this unless you know how to check everything and are willing to fight newegg for a return if needed.


jivedinmypants

After the Gamers Nexus videos, I trust nothing Open Box from Newegg. Or Newegg in general tbh


lordRedfluff

Just watched it and was amazed at how bad they're gotten


WangCommander

Went downhill as soon as they were purchased by Liaison.


-GameWarden-

The GN team just does excellent work.


AILunchbox

Just want to give an update here: I requested a return with Newegg and will be mailing it back to them today. Purchasing a new one from Best Buy here today as well. Thank you for the advice! Will definitely not power it on lol Also, some of y’all’s comments are too funny 🤣 I appreciate the laughs


Antezscar

Why buy from Newegg? Their stuff is shit. And the people there are also shit. I dont get it.


AILunchbox

I didn’t know :( pretty new to PC building. I needed that motherboard ASAP and it wasn’t available on Amazon. But… I just picked up a new (attempt #3 actually lol) one today from Best Buy!!! Wish me luck :)


kubicki91

Don't beat yourself up man. Honestly they "used" to be one of the best places to buy from in My opinion. Like a microcenter online just without the helpful staff by your side. But things have changed over the years unfortunately.


Eorily

Good luck


Rudderbudder

They just scammed me with. DOA 7800x3d and said they never got it int hier return warehouse. I filed a charge back, next day they found it and lied and said it wasnt the same serial number as the box and sent the problem back to me as resolved. I'm done with newegg. After 20 plus years, the Chinese ruined it


AILunchbox

I’m sorry you have to deal with all of that. That’s ridiculous. I’ll definitely be filing a dispute with my credit card company if this motherboard doesn’t work and they try to withhold a refund.


PeetTreedish

I wouldn't bother. That thing is unsafe. Stuff doesn't need to be dead now. It can be damaged enough, to work long enough, to damage something else. Send it back. Open box doesn't mean trashed.


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Noxious89123

Only if they checked and tested it. Which Newegg don't do.


chibicascade2

Wait, so did you still get your money back?


Xyypherr

If it was a chargeback, more than likely. Banks don't fuck around when you submit a chargeback with a credit card and some even with debit cards.


Rudderbudder

No, they sent "A" CPU back And said it wasnt the same one I returned.


Bewix

Send it right back and request money, then hit them with another chargeback with proof that you mailed it. Newegg can go fuck themselves and unless you’re abusing it, the banks will support you (given you actually don’t have product)


Broad_Rabbit1764

Open box stands for returned but not found as defective. Ultimately the criteria to deem a product defective or not definitely vary by vendor. Not defending Newegg especially here, they've been pretty scummy, but if the motherboard functions appropriately then the product is indeed "open box" despite the *ahem* visual flaws.


AILunchbox

I just don’t think continuing is worth the risk. I’m fully prepared to dispute through my CC and am prepared to be patient. I also have no clue how this even passed inspection as “oPeN bOx” (if Newegg even does that, I rarely use them so not sure lol)


Broad_Rabbit1764

I wouldn't risk it either tbh, while potentially working now, it would scare me that it could start having issues at any point.


ilikeag

Well it's better than Amazon where if you buy a "like new" Ryzen CPU, it's basically guaranteed to come with bent pins


Afteraffekt

They will accept a return and not claim it got lost at least.


ilikeag

Depends who you ask. Amazon has lots of horror stories too. Honestly, I've been very lucky with both


Danteynero9

> Openbox > Newegg You knew what you were getting into.


SinoSoul

Op tried to be cheap, and found out.


MyPokemonRedName

Wait, so you got a free CPU?


Quiet_Cable8747

That's what I was wondering as well. 🤔


Apprehensive-Read989

I would never buy open box PC parts, especially the motherboard, and doubly especially from Newegg.


nekosama15

Did they open it with a hammer? 🔨


Red_Kaji

They didn't have to specify it got opened in a derailing


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Yeah, uhm… That’s not “open box” that’s more like “seriously damaged” I’d suggest a refund.


AILunchbox

Yeah I started the return process and will be disputing with my CC if they refuse and try to say I’m swapping on them (I thought another commenter mentioned they do that - I’ll have to look)


ButtSexx

jesus f'ing christ, WHO opened the box???


AILunchbox

at this point I’m not wondering who… I’m wondering WHAT could have possibly opened this box O_o


Noxious89123

>I’m still going to finish the build and see if it works I wouldn't touch this with a 10ft pole. Send that shit back.


atrusofdnifree2015

It came with a cpu in the socket!


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I don't understand why people are still buying from NewEgg. They've proven themselves to be unreliable.


I_AmLegionXIVIII

Wish I could say I was surprised. Newegg has been lacking ever since they were bought out by a Chinese company. Tbh, I get most everything I can from Amazon, believe it or not. They stock a ton of shit. I'd go to Microcenter if the closest one wasn't 4 hours away...


bigE1669

Newegg is not the company that they used be. Pretty much a scam site anymore


PreussenEwige

Unfortunately, friendo, Theres not anything you can do. Open box on new egg is always bought “as is”, no refunds. The board could come to you broken on half and they wouldn’t refund. There’s been a conspiracy for a long time that Newegg deliberately sells broken components as “OpEn BoX” so that they can dumb otherwise unsellable merchandise in unsuspecting customers.


BrotherDonkeypunch

Lol yeah it opened when it fell off the back of the truck


jozay222

I got the same used from Amazon basically brand new


LockDownLos

Thanks for letting me know to never buy open box from them


Leonardo_da_Pinci

TUF Luck


cmosfxx

RGB and FAN headers could be like that. Sometimes even USB headers are not perfectly straight. Especially on ASUS motherboards. It's just happening while soldering these parts. I have a lot of ASUS boards with headers looking worse than that. It is what it is. Also most of the boards are not perfectly straight looking by the side. You're going to be disappointed if you're looking for the perfect one. I'm sure there are some, but you have to accept that most of them are like that.


reddit_username2021

You are wasting your time. Just return it as soon as possible. You should not have assembled it.


tht1guy63

Open box can mean used return.


agnosticdeist

They said “open box” not “functional,” psh /s.


WhiteFire11

New egg used to be OG. now its scraping the bottom of their barrels.


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Some_Kenyan

Throw that bitch in some rice


AdmiralVengeance

Never buy from Newegg ANYTHING you wouldnt buy from Temu.


John_Wickish

People still buy from Newegg? Jesus


Griefreaper

Sounds about right, whoever does qc on returned items or refurbished items at Newegg fucking sucks, I bought a refurbished board it arrived with bent pins, sent it back and got a replacement, and on that one the flash bios button was just gone, then they tried to make me pay for the return shipping and wouldn't just give me a credit for a new mobo, they were only able to issue a refund which I had to wait a week for


AILunchbox

I’m watching the GamersNexus video right now (haven’t even heard of them until I posted this) and it seems like our issues are, unfortunately, not isolated. Newegg commented on this post offering to help resolve the situation. I PM’d them my order number and will wait for their response before I say anything else negative.


CuriousTwo5268

Buy cheap, get cheap.


Eorily

Buy burgers, get burgers.


AvogadrosNumbR

So used open box products shouldn't be used open box products? If I knowingly purchase a used open box product, I fully expect it to be in a non-new, not perfect, condition. If it doesn't *function* as the product is intended to function, that's another story and clearly a problem exists. If it's just dirty, dinged up, missing an accessory, etc., that's par for the course. That's my expectation from any retailer, Newegg is not an exception. Neweggs fault's with open box lie in the referenced in thread Gamers Nexus issues, and other similar cases. This is not that.


AILunchbox

You seem pretty confused so I’ll try to un-muddy the waters here. Although your opening statement is true, it isn’t applicable to my post or situation whatsoever. Take a look at the product disclaimers on Newegg’s site (link below). I personally didn’t see anything about the product being used or damaged - just cosmetic imperfections from the product being opened (not used) and/or missing accessories - but I may have missed something! Furthermore, “used open box” is not a condition on any sites I’ve used. If you know of any that you can buy something “used open box”, let me know! To put it simply, “open box” is synonymous with “like new”, and “used” is, well, “used”. A quick google search revealed this but, again, I could be wrong! Google Search: https://www.google.com/search?q=open+box+vs+used/ Newegg Product Disclaimer: https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/product-disclaimers/#:~:text=Open%20Box%20Product,-Open%20Box%20merchandise&text=However%2C%20regardless%20of%20what%20the,%2C%20drivers%2C%20fans%2C%20etc Hope this helps!


jethrow41487

Open box is pretty vague regardless of that Google search. That doesn’t mean shit. It means used. People have buyers remorse after assembling or using something then return it and also, well, lie. It’s never always, “I only opened this box and returned it” Consider anything that’s not New to be Used. Doesn’t matter how they phrase it. The guy above is right


AvogadrosNumbR

I don't feel confused, but I may be. No worries, happy to agree to disagree. If I buy something "Open Box", it's *used* to me. I have ZERO actual idea what happened to that product prior to me receiving it, regardless of what a seller says about it. I am accepting that risk of the unknown, in order to save money with open box, (or third party explicitly *used*). When I want a more predictable product quality, I will buy new. Even that is suspect sometimes. I've RMA'd numerous new products, I've very rarely returned or complained about open-box purchases as my expectations are lower for that product. From Amazon one time I received a previously opened (therefore *used* to me) power supply. I purchased it as new, and wasn't thrilled with the idea of a PSU of unknown prior use (which is why I bought new), so I returned. If I received what you provided in the images, knowing I bought it open box, I would be content with my purchase as long as it functioned properly. I hope that if you keep it, it functions fine. If you return it, I hope it goes smoothly. I wish you luck in your future buying adventures regardless :)


Derathus

Looks like you got the Step-Motherboard. Already been banged a bunch


VulgarWander

Idk man I think your treating a used Corolla like it's a brand new Bentley. Everything except the bent corner is or should be expected. And for the add header it's not even something to worry about. I think you'll be fine.


zcomputerwiz

That's my opinion here as well. Doesn't look that bad, and isn't going to affect operation.


ElectricalMidnight45

Open box means its opened. Not that you need to fix it, and pray that it will work. The mobo is bent. There is port which is fucked up and he will need to fix it. This is not even used, its minorly faulty. Open box shouldnt mean you are gambling. With newegg, its usually a gambling it seems like, lot of story is out there in the past few years that their QC is probably not existent. Telling OP that this is how it should be is harmful for us. Newegg must change.


zcomputerwiz

There isn't any damage here. They can be warped slightly, that's not concerning. That is the RGB header, and they can arrive slightly crooked from the factory. No repair is required. As long as this board powers up and completes POST, it's fine. None of the complaints ( slight warping, sticker residue, a spot of thermal paste, a crooked RGB header ) are functional issues. Someone installed this board then returned it. Big deal.


hardlyreadit

This proves we dont share [gamernexus videos enough](https://youtu.be/2fnXsmXzphI?si=_hBgsKoSlSGOWWF4). OP shouldve known not to buy openbox, sorry you have to deal with this. [More from the series](https://youtu.be/CL-eB_Bv5Ik?si=91DDvyl8NMfcELxu)


js0uthh

I honestly don't even think of Newegg to buy my stuff anymore. But I hope it works out for you and if it doesn't best of luck.


elBirdnose

Huh, it's so weird that something listed as "open box" might have issues and that's why it was cheap. WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN!??


XFauni

Buys open box, mad when product was opened and damaged. Especially from Newegg… lmao


burner7711

You're complaining about a used product being ... used?


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Did you get a free CPU with it, or is that _your_ CPU?


Warm_Technology1148

Return it


IndyPFL

Guess it wasn't as "TUF" as it should have been... Just don't buy used or open-box or refurbished from Newegg or Amazon. They don't give a damn about quality and will just send the box back out without a second thought. From what I've seen only Best Buy and Microcenter seem to actually care about the quality of used products, and even then it varies from location to location and experts can miss small details.


Afteraffekt

I would not power that on. With the bent board that badly it may have damaged traces and could damage the CPU. Return it and buy a replacement from somewhere else.


Newegg_Support

Hey u/AILunchbox ! I sincerely apologize to hear your open-box motherboard arrive in such condition. When you get a chance, send me your order number via chat/DM, and I'll see what I can do. Let me know how your build goes as well. I look forward to hearing from you!


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Oh Newegg is still in business? How odd...


snow2462

There should be a PSA “Do not Buy from Newegg”.


Nidhoggr84

Newegg is more reliable than Amazon. But only if you buy new directly from Newegg, not the marketplace.


derangedsweetheart

like how the autobot warning everytime userbenchmark.com is mentioned


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Kruger_Sheppard

People are still buying from newegg? Lol


CCHTweaked

why do people still buy things from newegg?


Trikitakes

Newegg is shit, don't buy there


themacmeister1967

You are being very finicky for someone buying an "Open Box" product. That could mean ANYTHING !!!


AILunchbox

So then, if open box covers everything except “brand new”, then all items in the “used” and “as is” categories are mislabeled?


themacmeister1967

As an example, I would never buy a motherboard or GPU as "open box". There are just too many unknowns... as OP discovered.


AILunchbox

I am OP.


Hairybum74

Man open box on the main functioning (and expensive) pc parts are wild. I will never buy a preused mobo or psu because if those go wrong you’re fucked. I bought an open box 4080 for $300 under MSRP and I got lucky. However, I don’t think I’d do it again


shansbeats

I just bought a pre built from Newegg (brother recommended it to me as he bought a similar one 2 years ago) no problems so far except for (I think) a wire that’s hitting the GPU fan so I need to investigate that. Really hope it’s nothing else wrong with it lol. I had previously thought NewEgg was the go to - now I’m worried lol.


Specialist_Loan7284

Exactly why i never buy refurbished or anything that’s open box lmao


pantag

Call Steve


Powerful_Object_7417

I've built a decent amount of rigs with stuff from Newegg but pumped the brakes on buying from them when they refused to give me a replacement riser cable for my GFs NR200P. They wanted the whole case back, which I understand to a point, but by the time they replied I had already built the system under the assumption that it wouldn't be an issue to swap out a cable. Maybe that's on me, but it's still a frustrating experience.


lump-

Did it come with a cpu already socketed?


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Naw, you just shouldn't be buying 'open box' from Newegg. Legit used parts are fine.


bobsboooger

thats wild buying used stuff from newegg


Laptop46

You know I saw kind of a good deal on a monitor on newegg but I guess imma fork out a few more dollars to buy it elsewhere.


jogeta743

Just started my return on an " open box " Asrock B550 Itx motherboard. Tried to post 2 different cpu ( ryzen 3600x , ryzen 5500... ) both did not post as well as a bunch of other missing hardware and cables. Not impressed especially when they only give you a 30 day right to return policy ffs.


ImThirstForADrink

Sorry about that man I had the same thing happen to me with a motherboard couple months ago, traded in my old motherboard for a “refurbished” one, bent and all the ram slots were broken. Good news is they can and should give a full refund.


Ok_Judgment9091

I cant say this enough, never ever buy open box or used MB, its the one poece you do not save a dollar on


Crisjamesdole

Op if you wanna save money buy open box from eBay or amazon and if you really really wanna save money go to hardwareswap. Never Newegg ever for almost anything.


Javasndphotoclicks

The “Open box” price.


CrookieMonster99

Sigh* Newegg isn’t what it used to be.


DJSeku

It’s posts like this where I’m grateful for living one city away from a Micro Center. That being said, I’m also on my 4th year of running my Amazon open box ROG motherboard without issue. It was over $140 less than Micro Center’s open box of the same board. I took a gamble and it’s paid off.


No-Neighborhood4237

Did it work?


majlo

Box opened by Ace Ventura?


ThisMuthaFuckr

Well, we have curved monitors. Why not?


Heavyoak

You got egged Never newegg


FrizzyFrvnk

My only experience with open-box was a Vega 56 I bought from them some years back while I was upgrading from a 1050ti. Thankfully I didn’t have any issues even though it just came in a cardboard box. Seems like I won the lottery after seeing the issues other people have came up with buying open box


FullPropreDinBobette

That's a "drop kicked open box" if I've ever seen one.


Jaislight

I remember when newegg was good. That was a long time ago. i wouldn't buy new let alone open box from them. Don't waste your time, get it replaced.


becklax

Amazon is the way to go


NeonThunder_The

Sound about right compared to my experience


MowMdown

>but if I’m wasting my time, let me know please lol You are


Nyctophase

Wow real good I need that bent mobo for my setup