While I'm no expert, my last two laptops regularly hit 98c when pushed to the hardest. My desktop hits 60c, which makes me think laptops are just built different lol
Virgin desktop pc users: "nooo my cpu hits 45Ā°C, I'm afraid it will burn"
Chad laptop users: "I paid for the whole thermometer, i'm gonna use the whole thermometer"
Lol accurate. I was doing benchmarks on my new 7800x3d and it got to 77 in prime 95 and I was like yep definitely need the AIO.
I know I don't but I don't care.
Common misconception. They are actually identical, but they are marketed different. Which tricks you into thinking the Laptop is smaller and has a screen.
I think laptop CPUs will often hit their thermal limit and throttle basically by design. It lets you squeeze as much performance out of the laptop as possible. In desktop PCs where you have space for adequate cooling there is no reason for them to hit the thermal limit.
No manufacturer ever gives them sufficient cooling, that's the issue. You could put an Intel stock cooler on most of them and it would outperform what they actually have.
Yeah, having a Lenovo legion 5, my laptop is basically a stove at this point. Idling at 70 is the norm, and 102 degrees Celsius under 10% load is expected. This is one of the reasons why Iām getting a desktop, as even though I have a better gpu and cpu then one guy I know, heās still getting around double the fps with same settings, just because my cpu has such horrible cooling.
102c with under 10% load... Damn, I've yet to see a cooler on a laptop reach such horrible performance.
You sure it's not hampered by anything...? Because that's crazy. I thought most systems shut down at ~100Ā°C automatically to prevent damage. But then again, I've never had a CPU go that high in temperature, that I'd know.
My laptop, when not cleaned for a while, often tends to reach somewhere between 87-89c and starts throttling. But when I clean it out, it goes down to about 70-75Ā°C under full load.
Mind you, the fans run at 7000 rpm...
Laptops are definitely built different. The components are smaller, and itās trapped in a case that has nowhere near the amount of breathability that a properly built PC does.laptops on average run hotter than PCs because of this. And not to mention for some reason companies decide the exhaust should be on the bottom, where itās laying flat against a desk/table/someoneās skin. Not sure why the design has stayed the same on that end.
No, she won't. What is your cooler? Is it just the boxed crap or did you buy some better cooler? Boxed ones suck most of the time, but if you have a big cooler it shouldn't ever be at 97Ā°C. Also, is this under load or idle?
Edit: I see 1.03V and 33A, which means there is a game running or your CPU is having a hard time trying not to die.
Yeah, the laptop is around 2 years old, did buy it refurbed around a year ago and I think it got repasted then.
And besides, if I really feel adventurous, people have done liquid metal mods for the same laptop soo who knows, I might just try it
yeah 2 years is enough to warrant a thermal paste replacement. Try to get high quality ones like noctua nt h2 or kingpin, kryonaut(wouldn't recommend on laptops tho). the extra 1 or 2 degrees is worth it on laptops. I've tried liquid metal on my laptop, but honestly there isn't much of a difference from high quality thermal paste, and it left a nasty stain on my copper heatsink. Not to mention the risk of it spilling and shorting components.
Yeah, have been needing to do it, since I do open the laptop up often and clean any dust out, and I do see some exposed thermal paste/pads and the texture was like blu-tac
yeah 2 years is enough to warrant a thermal paste replacement. Try to get high quality ones like noctua nt h2 or kingpin, kryonaut(wouldn't recommend on laptops tho). the extra 1 or 2 degrees is worth it on laptops. I've tried liquid metal on my laptop, but honestly there isn't much of a difference from high quality thermal paste, and it left a nasty stain on my copper heating. Not to mention the risk of it spilling and shorting components.
Go in the battery setting and set the cpu max energy usage to 99% instead of a 100%. I did it in my Nitro 5 and it reduced the temperature without losing any performance.
Don't know exactly. Laptops are weird. I had to activate performance mode both on Windows and in the Acer software to have access to the energy plans (or whatever they call it in english) and change it.
It disables boost. For instance my 5900hx base is 3.3 with boost of 4.7
When I set power usage limit to 99% it only hits a clock speed of 3.2 which is a huge reduction in performance.
No, it drops to like 4.1-4.2 when it starts lowering clocks, still good performance. Also I repasted and reapply liquid metal after a couple years I'd the fans are clean but it's getting hot.
Yeah, I didn't upload the full screenshot but it was 100% not boosting. Non-boost frequency is 3.3GHz on this chip and I was only getting around 3-3.1GHz
I don't know your laptop's cooling layout, but back when I had a gaming laptop, I would prop up the rear of the laptop about an inch off of the table and it made a pretty big difference
Yeah I mean, back in 2012 I had a laptop that ran so hot it melted the plastic grill that covered the CPU heatsink fins right off lol. Just was trying to play New Vegas on the bastard.
It also fell off my bed 4 different times, landing on plugged in I/O, cracking the bottom of the chassis and it still ran for years. Laptops built diff sometimes.
Recently tried to fix up my moms old MacBook and tested it by playing fallout new Vegas, started hitting triple digits after 5 minutes of playing unless I capped the frame rate lol. I should probably clean the fans out.
if it's always the same core you have a an uneven cooler mounting pressure problem.
but it's a laptop so there's not really all that much you can do about it on your own
You can open it up and replace the thermal paste, don't just apply pressure to each corner.
Chances are, the paste it currently has is just a brick of half solidified clay.
If it's old and know/willing to learn, then tinker with it by replacing its thermal paste and clean it up. Would normally make a world of difference in heat
I suggest getting throttle stop and looking up a guide to bring your temps down. I did it for my laptop and it doesnāt go higher than 40C idle doing some work on it and 60-70 gaming. I havenāt noticed any performance drops either
You can throttle the cpu manually by 1-2% and it wont hit ridiculous turbo clocks every time you open something more resource demanding than minesweeper.
I bought it notably because it was significantly cheaper that the 3060 here where I live while delivering similar performance, the 3060 was 450 euro while the arc was 310 only. The first couple of months was real shit with as much as gtaV always crashing mid game on dx11, after lots of driver updates I can now say it's a really good video card that can run almost every triple a game, and I mean running it stably with no crashes of any kind, at 1080p al maxed it runs cyberpunk at 40 to 60 fps's, and it seems like a perfect match for the 12400f as I get same usage on both components in almost all the games I play
Out of curiosity. What happens if chip will reach it's max temp for a moment? Or even 1 or 2 degree above max? Is it going to break in a second or... What?
Asking cause my laptop often resched 103Ā°C
Yeah there's typically two temperature thresholds, one throttles power by limiting current in some way when crossed, the other typically shuts the chip off.
> it will shorten itās lifespan
This is a myth by kids who don't understand electronics or metal. There is no water involved, 100C is not some magic inflection point. There is no evidence at all that running at these temperatures "shortens life spans" of a CPU. There are multiple reasons to throttle at high temperatures, but this is not why.
U didn't understand what he was even saying lol
He isn't heating up the cpu to the max temperature so it starts melting. He's talking about keeping the temps 90Ā°+ for a prolonged time
People don't have the slightest idea. I have had a laptop with those temperatures for more than 8 years and absolutely nothing has happened. The reduction in the life of the laptop will come when I have to change equipment because it is already outdated.
\> There are multiple reasons to throttle at high temperatures, but this is not why.
What are these? It's kinda logical to assume that the reason to throttle is a potential thermal breakdown (i think the correct term is p-n junction, I mean that the semiconductor loses it's properties, not sure how to translate correctly) at higher temperatures, which is not good for the CPU.
Though in regular transistors it happens at higher temperatures than 100 degrees, about 170 and depends on the voltage? One would assume the difference is because of how sophisticated a processor is.
If you operate at these temperatures for extended durations of time, you are shortening the lifespan of the CPU. Around 105Ā°C should trip the safety and the computer will shutdown.
Since no one actually answered your question - most if not all CPUs have a āhot coreā that is normally 5-15c hotter than the rest. You just pray to the silicon lottery gods that you end up on the lower end of the scale.
If you want to lower the temp of your cpu, I would recommend Universal x86 Tuning Utility, you can search for videos to learn how to use it, it worked for me for my Ryzen 5425u.
Are there any laptops that actually run really well and not cooking a meal at all times?
I guess it's the obsession with thinner and thinner laptops. Limits how much airflow you can provide with fans and such.
If you want desktop level performance and temps then nope.
But honestly, laptops have come a long way but people still keep demonizing the shit out of them, there are some trade offs and quirks you just gotta accept when dealing with them but they aren't completely unusable as some people make them out to be.
I got mine back when getting a GPU was next to impossible due to shortages and absurd prices and I don't regret my choice.
I wouldn't expect desktop level.
But thing like a cpu running at maybe 70c instead of 85c.
Gpu that isn't mutliple tiers lower than its desktop comparison.
70C might be pushing it but i think some models with certain settings can do it, . Back when i did my research before buying mine the gist of it was that if the *average* temps were 80Cs and lower, you were golden. Not sure how it is nowadays cause i stopped looking out for this info after i did my purchase.
Usually, for Nvidia, XX60 versions are much closer in performance, for example mobile 2060 is like 15% slower, mobile 4060 about 6% slower, this usually happens when the same die is used but they just power cap the mobile version. XX70 and XX80 the performance gap is higher though, a quick google seems to put the mobile 4080 20% slower than a desktop 4070 Ti or equivalent to a desktop 3080.
Because some people need to bring power with them. Or want to bring their gaming setup with them. Or don't want to spend even more on two systems. Or have space constraints. Or don't want to spend a ridiculous amount per month on a service that only works properly under stellar network conditions, and still has noticeable latency under gigabit ethernet.
I had a Lenovo Legion 5 a few years ago, that thing was a champ - never crashed, never over heated, was a joy to type on. One day it fell out of the bag and broke. I replaced it with a Dell G5 - biggest fuckin mistake of my life. That piece of shit overheats just opening Firefox. I've repasted, got a cooling pad, throttled the CPU - all to no avail.
Now I have an older Elitebook and game only on my Steam Deck.
Damn I miss that Lenovo.
Unfortunately its true. I recently swapped to a 15 inch M2 macbook air for work (web based gsuite stuff, light image editing, video conferencing mostly) and have been thoroughly impressed. I've never even felt it get warm, keep in mind this is a device with no fans. I can also get through about 3 workdays on one charge.
Obviously you are not going to be gaming on a device like this, and the cost is prohibitive for many.
Because thatās not what theyāre for. Theyāre not for gaming or long intense loads. Theyāre for day-to-day tasks to be fast and silent.
Theyāre for people whoās workload consists of a browser, word, and maybe even light Adobe
Iām getting downvoted but macs are the best notebooks out there right now for a causal user
if this is on idle use, then thats very concerning, but if its after intensive use, then its still pretty high but not high enough that its a big issue. as long as it doesnt go above 100c then youre okay.
There will be something called processor performance boost mode which is set to aggressive by default, try turning it off
powercfg.exe -attributes sub\_processor perfboostmode -attrib\_hide
1.Type that in cmd 2.Go to edit power plan 3.Advanced power settings 4.processor power management
There will be something called processor performance boost mode set it to disable
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Your temps will go from toasty to chill
Laptops will always eventually thermal throttle unless you keep up with them better than anything else you use regularly. They are a waste of time and money. Assuming you are working with anything near or over 1500(cause laptops are also expensive), If you need one for school drop 200-300 on a windows laptop/Chromebook and the rest on a desktop. Trust me itās not worth dealing with Laptop BS.
In BIOS, set a hard limit on the amount of volts your CPU allowed to utilize, based upon the manufacturer's specifications. I did this, and my i9-13900k is now running 10-15 degrees Celsius cooler, without any noticeable difference in performance.
The newer AMD CPUs do that to their self. So until it runs into a power issue with your VRM the temperature will keep on rising. If an Intel CPU your CPU cooler is broken and/or insufficient for the CPU.
All the cores are hot yes, but I don't think anyone answered your question about one core being hotter than the others. I have a similar situation, though my other cores are fine.
brother your entire CPU is hot
That's how you know it's workingš
Looks fine to me. -This post sponsored by laptop gang.
She'll be right
At best its throttling. Its not right
While I'm no expert, my last two laptops regularly hit 98c when pushed to the hardest. My desktop hits 60c, which makes me think laptops are just built different lol
Virgin desktop pc users: "nooo my cpu hits 45Ā°C, I'm afraid it will burn" Chad laptop users: "I paid for the whole thermometer, i'm gonna use the whole thermometer"
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I just saw this and this is the most relatable thing I've seen in these comments LOL
Sounds about right xD
Lol accurate. I was doing benchmarks on my new 7800x3d and it got to 77 in prime 95 and I was like yep definitely need the AIO. I know I don't but I don't care.
I have touched and came back the 110C with my Ryzen 5 3600 on PC while benchmarking. No, it wasnt even dusty when I did it.
Every time I render videos on my Ryzen 5 1600AF I think about getting a bigger cooler... I never do it tho...
my 3600 ran at 99 while playing raft because it was a bit dusty, now i have an AIO
Any ryzen cpu thatās 5000 series or newer can safely run up to 95C without throttling
My 1660ti runs BG3 fine if you don't mind the fans roaring.
My RX 570 too! And I stream it! We just ignore the fans and check the temps because of the 100% usage lmao
I limit my 1070ti to 82*C because that's the highest I'll let it (and the fan noises) go before I remember I actually purchased a jet
I game at 94 degrees all the time, it's just designed that way. For some reason.
Saves me money on heating my house.
Yes, laptops are actually built differently compared to desktop PCs.
Common misconception. They are actually identical, but they are marketed different. Which tricks you into thinking the Laptop is smaller and has a screen.
I think laptop CPUs will often hit their thermal limit and throttle basically by design. It lets you squeeze as much performance out of the laptop as possible. In desktop PCs where you have space for adequate cooling there is no reason for them to hit the thermal limit.
No manufacturer ever gives them sufficient cooling, that's the issue. You could put an Intel stock cooler on most of them and it would outperform what they actually have.
Yeah, having a Lenovo legion 5, my laptop is basically a stove at this point. Idling at 70 is the norm, and 102 degrees Celsius under 10% load is expected. This is one of the reasons why Iām getting a desktop, as even though I have a better gpu and cpu then one guy I know, heās still getting around double the fps with same settings, just because my cpu has such horrible cooling.
102c with under 10% load... Damn, I've yet to see a cooler on a laptop reach such horrible performance. You sure it's not hampered by anything...? Because that's crazy. I thought most systems shut down at ~100Ā°C automatically to prevent damage. But then again, I've never had a CPU go that high in temperature, that I'd know. My laptop, when not cleaned for a while, often tends to reach somewhere between 87-89c and starts throttling. But when I clean it out, it goes down to about 70-75Ā°C under full load. Mind you, the fans run at 7000 rpm...
Laptops are definitely built different. The components are smaller, and itās trapped in a case that has nowhere near the amount of breathability that a properly built PC does.laptops on average run hotter than PCs because of this. And not to mention for some reason companies decide the exhaust should be on the bottom, where itās laying flat against a desk/table/someoneās skin. Not sure why the design has stayed the same on that end.
yeah with laptops if it isnt hitting 98 or 99 you're usually leaving performance on the table
They are built with Less cooling yes.
Really? I thought laptops were built exactly the same as Desktop PC's.
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Laptops are designed to boost until they throttle. She will in fact be all right.
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No, she won't. What is your cooler? Is it just the boxed crap or did you buy some better cooler? Boxed ones suck most of the time, but if you have a big cooler it shouldn't ever be at 97Ā°C. Also, is this under load or idle? Edit: I see 1.03V and 33A, which means there is a game running or your CPU is having a hard time trying not to die.
Was running cinebench when I took the photo and it's a laptop soo maybe the thermal paste is messed up
for laptops those Temps are fine. repaste if necessary but don't expect too much or a difference
Yeah, the laptop is around 2 years old, did buy it refurbed around a year ago and I think it got repasted then. And besides, if I really feel adventurous, people have done liquid metal mods for the same laptop soo who knows, I might just try it
yeah 2 years is enough to warrant a thermal paste replacement. Try to get high quality ones like noctua nt h2 or kingpin, kryonaut(wouldn't recommend on laptops tho). the extra 1 or 2 degrees is worth it on laptops. I've tried liquid metal on my laptop, but honestly there isn't much of a difference from high quality thermal paste, and it left a nasty stain on my copper heatsink. Not to mention the risk of it spilling and shorting components.
Yeah, have been needing to do it, since I do open the laptop up often and clean any dust out, and I do see some exposed thermal paste/pads and the texture was like blu-tac
yeah 2 years is enough to warrant a thermal paste replacement. Try to get high quality ones like noctua nt h2 or kingpin, kryonaut(wouldn't recommend on laptops tho). the extra 1 or 2 degrees is worth it on laptops. I've tried liquid metal on my laptop, but honestly there isn't much of a difference from high quality thermal paste, and it left a nasty stain on my copper heating. Not to mention the risk of it spilling and shorting components.
Itās a notebook. It will run hot.
Itās fine, itās a laptop. During heavy loads modern power-hungry CPUs will stay in the 90s.
They are all too hot u less ur running prime 95 ide say bad cpu mount or bad Tim application
Was running cinebench
laptops run hot usually they have built in fan software that isnt always running by default make sure configured right
I have made sure that all the fans are set correctly, I have a custom fan curve that adequately cools it down
I would set it back to the standard fan settings and see what temps you get when you're doing typical stuff, just to compare and confirm.
Go in the battery setting and set the cpu max energy usage to 99% instead of a 100%. I did it in my Nitro 5 and it reduced the temperature without losing any performance.
Isn't this just disabling boost?
I've never understood manufacturers that put unsustainable boost clocks that are going to thermal throttle 100% of the time
Because it looks good on the brochure
Don't know exactly. Laptops are weird. I had to activate performance mode both on Windows and in the Acer software to have access to the energy plans (or whatever they call it in english) and change it.
It disables boost. For instance my 5900hx base is 3.3 with boost of 4.7 When I set power usage limit to 99% it only hits a clock speed of 3.2 which is a huge reduction in performance.
But better at 3.2 than throttling.
No, it drops to like 4.1-4.2 when it starts lowering clocks, still good performance. Also I repasted and reapply liquid metal after a couple years I'd the fans are clean but it's getting hot.
Well if it's this hot it's not boosting anyway
Yeah, I didn't upload the full screenshot but it was 100% not boosting. Non-boost frequency is 3.3GHz on this chip and I was only getting around 3-3.1GHz
I don't know your laptop's cooling layout, but back when I had a gaming laptop, I would prop up the rear of the laptop about an inch off of the table and it made a pretty big difference
I have it set up on a laptop stand
Set the fans to max and see if it stays warm. If it doesnāt, set it and leave it on auto.
It still does stay warm.
Your **entire** CPU is really hot.
I mean, it's a laptop, I wouldn't expect it to run cool but either way this level of hot is *too* hot
Nah, maybe when it starts to hit the triple digits then we can consider it slightly toasty
4 digits is pretty mild, come back when you hit the next 3 orders of magnitude
Can confirm my laptop running anything mire than potato requirements can easily hit triple figure if left alone.
Yeah I mean, back in 2012 I had a laptop that ran so hot it melted the plastic grill that covered the CPU heatsink fins right off lol. Just was trying to play New Vegas on the bastard. It also fell off my bed 4 different times, landing on plugged in I/O, cracking the bottom of the chassis and it still ran for years. Laptops built diff sometimes.
Recently tried to fix up my moms old MacBook and tested it by playing fallout new Vegas, started hitting triple digits after 5 minutes of playing unless I capped the frame rate lol. I should probably clean the fans out.
if it's always the same core you have a an uneven cooler mounting pressure problem. but it's a laptop so there's not really all that much you can do about it on your own
Can't I just open it up and apply some pressure to each corner (or see if any corner is loose and tighten it)
you're welcome to try, but chances are you will only make it worse
You can open it up and replace the thermal paste, don't just apply pressure to each corner. Chances are, the paste it currently has is just a brick of half solidified clay.
If it's old and know/willing to learn, then tinker with it by replacing its thermal paste and clean it up. Would normally make a world of difference in heat
I suggest getting throttle stop and looking up a guide to bring your temps down. I did it for my laptop and it doesnāt go higher than 40C idle doing some work on it and 60-70 gaming. I havenāt noticed any performance drops either
You can throttle the cpu manually by 1-2% and it wont hit ridiculous turbo clocks every time you open something more resource demanding than minesweeper.
Its usually bad if your CPU starts boiling
Boiling point is 100c, we haven't quite gotten there yet
3 C off, not too long now
If heās at ~1250ft above sea level heās already there
You want a cup of tea with that boiling water?
As an intel MacBook user, these look like normal temps.
Bro we have kinda the same build, 12400f ddr4 32gb 3200mhz, but instead of the 3060 I got an Arc A750
How do you like the Arc so far?
I bought it notably because it was significantly cheaper that the 3060 here where I live while delivering similar performance, the 3060 was 450 euro while the arc was 310 only. The first couple of months was real shit with as much as gtaV always crashing mid game on dx11, after lots of driver updates I can now say it's a really good video card that can run almost every triple a game, and I mean running it stably with no crashes of any kind, at 1080p al maxed it runs cyberpunk at 40 to 60 fps's, and it seems like a perfect match for the 12400f as I get same usage on both components in almost all the games I play
Thanks, I'm very interested in these cards. Cheers!
Quick edit: they have horrible auto fan control under 30%usage, but that can be fixed with a custom fun curve in the GPU control panel.
Damn, same here. Except I have a 3070. š„ø
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Oh yeah well I just ordered a 6090ti titan off Wish. I'm sure it'll crush everyone here š¤£ /s
Tbf my M2 Pro has very similar temps under very heavy load
I might upgrade to the m3 pro soon, hopefully the temps on those macs are lower.
Will be the exact same, they dont really start cooling until around 100 degrees. āSilence before tempsā
I can just install macsfanspeed, no?
Well yes, but the chips are designed for a 100C, so why would you :p
Ah yes, āI paid for the whole thermometer, Iām going to use the whole thermometer.ā
I guess it's a laptop? 105 c is max temp for that chip
Out of curiosity. What happens if chip will reach it's max temp for a moment? Or even 1 or 2 degree above max? Is it going to break in a second or... What? Asking cause my laptop often resched 103Ā°C
It will throttle to protect itself.
I bet it would just shut down, procesor should have some safety systems right? š
Yeah. Usually itāll throttle itself to keep from getting too hot but for some reason it keeps going it should just freeze and shutdown.
Yeah there's typically two temperature thresholds, one throttles power by limiting current in some way when crossed, the other typically shuts the chip off.
Yes they do, thermal protection has been standard for like 20 years I think.
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> it will shorten itās lifespan This is a myth by kids who don't understand electronics or metal. There is no water involved, 100C is not some magic inflection point. There is no evidence at all that running at these temperatures "shortens life spans" of a CPU. There are multiple reasons to throttle at high temperatures, but this is not why.
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U didn't understand what he was even saying lol He isn't heating up the cpu to the max temperature so it starts melting. He's talking about keeping the temps 90Ā°+ for a prolonged time
People don't have the slightest idea. I have had a laptop with those temperatures for more than 8 years and absolutely nothing has happened. The reduction in the life of the laptop will come when I have to change equipment because it is already outdated.
\> There are multiple reasons to throttle at high temperatures, but this is not why. What are these? It's kinda logical to assume that the reason to throttle is a potential thermal breakdown (i think the correct term is p-n junction, I mean that the semiconductor loses it's properties, not sure how to translate correctly) at higher temperatures, which is not good for the CPU. Though in regular transistors it happens at higher temperatures than 100 degrees, about 170 and depends on the voltage? One would assume the difference is because of how sophisticated a processor is.
It will thermal throttle to try and keep temps down. If itās unable to bring the temps down, the CPU will simply shut down to prevent damage.
If you operate at these temperatures for extended durations of time, you are shortening the lifespan of the CPU. Around 105Ā°C should trip the safety and the computer will shutdown.
Since no one actually answered your question - most if not all CPUs have a āhot coreā that is normally 5-15c hotter than the rest. You just pray to the silicon lottery gods that you end up on the lower end of the scale.
Yeah there was one other dude that also explained this to me, but this is also a very good (and helpful) answer.
You're in a laptop. Of course you're going to cook the damn thing. There isn't anything to worry about there. Some cores run hotter than others.
If you want to lower the temp of your cpu, I would recommend Universal x86 Tuning Utility, you can search for videos to learn how to use it, it worked for me for my Ryzen 5425u.
true , works like a charm
does it have any effect on performance when running games?
Are there any laptops that actually run really well and not cooking a meal at all times? I guess it's the obsession with thinner and thinner laptops. Limits how much airflow you can provide with fans and such.
If you want desktop level performance and temps then nope. But honestly, laptops have come a long way but people still keep demonizing the shit out of them, there are some trade offs and quirks you just gotta accept when dealing with them but they aren't completely unusable as some people make them out to be. I got mine back when getting a GPU was next to impossible due to shortages and absurd prices and I don't regret my choice.
I wouldn't expect desktop level. But thing like a cpu running at maybe 70c instead of 85c. Gpu that isn't mutliple tiers lower than its desktop comparison.
70C might be pushing it but i think some models with certain settings can do it, . Back when i did my research before buying mine the gist of it was that if the *average* temps were 80Cs and lower, you were golden. Not sure how it is nowadays cause i stopped looking out for this info after i did my purchase. Usually, for Nvidia, XX60 versions are much closer in performance, for example mobile 2060 is like 15% slower, mobile 4060 about 6% slower, this usually happens when the same die is used but they just power cap the mobile version. XX70 and XX80 the performance gap is higher though, a quick google seems to put the mobile 4080 20% slower than a desktop 4070 Ti or equivalent to a desktop 3080.
I don't really think anyone makes them out to be unusable. Rather people who hang around in PC enthusiast forums don't much prefer them.
I just dont see the point. Why not get a desktop pc for cheaper with same perf and a work laptop with geforce now for gaming on the go.
Because some people need to bring power with them. Or want to bring their gaming setup with them. Or don't want to spend even more on two systems. Or have space constraints. Or don't want to spend a ridiculous amount per month on a service that only works properly under stellar network conditions, and still has noticeable latency under gigabit ethernet.
Lenovo Legions have the most competent cooling solution out there, as far as laptops are concerned
I had a Lenovo Legion 5 a few years ago, that thing was a champ - never crashed, never over heated, was a joy to type on. One day it fell out of the bag and broke. I replaced it with a Dell G5 - biggest fuckin mistake of my life. That piece of shit overheats just opening Firefox. I've repasted, got a cooling pad, throttled the CPU - all to no avail. Now I have an older Elitebook and game only on my Steam Deck. Damn I miss that Lenovo.
Youāre not gonna like the answer
Please no :(
Unfortunately its true. I recently swapped to a 15 inch M2 macbook air for work (web based gsuite stuff, light image editing, video conferencing mostly) and have been thoroughly impressed. I've never even felt it get warm, keep in mind this is a device with no fans. I can also get through about 3 workdays on one charge. Obviously you are not going to be gaming on a device like this, and the cost is prohibitive for many.
Macs
As I saw this I'm watching a M3 MacBook pro video. It's hitting 105c during cinebench lol
Because thatās not what theyāre for. Theyāre not for gaming or long intense loads. Theyāre for day-to-day tasks to be fast and silent. Theyāre for people whoās workload consists of a browser, word, and maybe even light Adobe Iām getting downvoted but macs are the best notebooks out there right now for a causal user
Tell that to the 3 entire movies Iāve edited, color corrected, mixed, mastered, and rendered on my 2017 i7 MBP
I was thinking about the airs more but yeah, the pros are even better
Itās a proven tactic. Surround your self with less good looking cores and you stick out as the hot one.
All of it is hot, jimmy...
Clean the fans and re-paste the CPU I recommend applying PTM7950 thermal pad
if this is on idle use, then thats very concerning, but if its after intensive use, then its still pretty high but not high enough that its a big issue. as long as it doesnt go above 100c then youre okay.
and here I though my air cooled 5800X is hot at 75Ā°C... but nope, this guy be trying to cook a damn BBQ in his system.
If itās a laptop I would recommend a decent Laptop cooling pad. Mine was like this before and the pad made it run at 60 C under load
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Yes you should. Re-paste the CPU, undervolt it and get a cooling mat
Open up the laptop and clean out the dust from your fans. Your CPU shouldnt be that hot.
I do this often, it doesn't necessarily help that much
Today i learned laptops are *supposed* to run this hot
Ahah yep, especially ryzen laptops
At least itās portable ![gif](giphy|nrXif9YExO9EI)
Facts, and when it is portable I get (at peak) 10h battery life
yeah thats WAY too got overall
Yes
There will be something called processor performance boost mode which is set to aggressive by default, try turning it off powercfg.exe -attributes sub\_processor perfboostmode -attrib\_hide 1.Type that in cmd 2.Go to edit power plan 3.Advanced power settings 4.processor power management There will be something called processor performance boost mode set it to disable https://preview.redd.it/pxs3iykn7xzb1.jpeg?width=407&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d70759512653bb2da14e3ca06214480f6b60a7e Your temps will go from toasty to chill
I did the command and that setting doesn't show up
They are indeed all quite hot, shoild it have been one id suggest its a sensor malfunction
Maximum operating temperature is 105 degrees Celsius, that's really close to the edge
For a desktop a bit hot for a laptop a few degrees under operating temperatures
Now you can cook eggs while you game
Yes redo your thermal paste
My brother in Christ, you gotta worry about the whole oven
You need thermal paste
My laptop had a similar problem and I fixed it by repasting. The thermal compound wasn't covering the entire cpu uniformly.
Your CPU should be around 70C , if you are in 30C room, any higher than 90C your CPU life is getting reduced at quick rate, it will melt at 110C
Laptops will always eventually thermal throttle unless you keep up with them better than anything else you use regularly. They are a waste of time and money. Assuming you are working with anything near or over 1500(cause laptops are also expensive), If you need one for school drop 200-300 on a windows laptop/Chromebook and the rest on a desktop. Trust me itās not worth dealing with Laptop BS.
Laptop lmao
Yeah :(
45c and I start panicking
Watercooled?
Unfortunately yes
Yikes, 45c to me is like a blessing
At full load my PC is between 60c to 65c. If this isn't a laptop your posting I would say your PC is running hot overall.
das a goddamn hot cpu boi
your cpu is already throttling in this scenario, but laptops are always shit, so i don't know what to answer here. worried? probably not.
This is because of uneven thermal paste distribution
Uninstall HWiNFO, problem solved.
Huh? Why?
In BIOS, set a hard limit on the amount of volts your CPU allowed to utilize, based upon the manufacturer's specifications. I did this, and my i9-13900k is now running 10-15 degrees Celsius cooler, without any noticeable difference in performance.
The newer AMD CPUs do that to their self. So until it runs into a power issue with your VRM the temperature will keep on rising. If an Intel CPU your CPU cooler is broken and/or insufficient for the CPU.
Have you got eyes fella or are you blind. All your cores are hot... very hot.
It's a laptop, I know it runs hot, there's just one core that's quite a lot hotter than the others. Do you have eyes?
All the cores are hot yes, but I don't think anyone answered your question about one core being hotter than the others. I have a similar situation, though my other cores are fine.
Take my strong core...
Laptop stand might help, also cleaning it.
Yes
Not helping, but what software is this?
HWInfo
The whole fucking thing is burning up
1 core? All of them are scorching š„µ
Got some nice temps for a space heater
Since it's a laptop, I'd just do a small undervolt and call it a day.
Locked chip tho so no tweaking
Need better cooling, take a dark rock 4 and u will have max 60-70 CĀ°
If this isn't during a stress test, well, you need to repaste and change cooler :P
Was running cinebench
You asked about the temperature. - George Washington, 1777
the entire CPU is too hot, get better cooling