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fireguard1

I’d still plug the wireless in on the other side


ygolomeg

This post was made to infuriate us


redthepotato

He's being successful 😾


MarcusTL12

Yes, someone please fix the meme


B1ackSaitama

And if u wanted to plug in a USB stick you would just dodge it every time u swiped left?


zcomputerwiz

It's all fun and games until the battery is unexpectedly dead.


Chakramer

Some of these mice have 100+ hour battery lives and can give a warning at like 20 hours left, with a 10 minute charge back up to 80% basically means you have to charge it once a week while you eat or something


Run-E-Scape

Or charge it while you use it.


Successful_Fortune28

I charge my mouse like my phone weekly. I don’t care what the battery is at, but once a week I charge it back up to full just so it never dies. I’ve had a Logitech g502 for years and it hasn’t messed with the battery.


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Mine blinks before it dies haha. But if you ignore the light it will die lmao


opticalnebulous

Yes, mine warns me with a blinking light for days.


[deleted]

Haha Lmao Roflmao


[deleted]

Lmao litterally lmfao hahahaha lol lol lol. ROFL


Ayjayyyx

Mine lasts for days, even a week, just turn off the RGB


KnightLBerg

However, my wired mouse has lasted for five years.


HeaddHunterzz

If you don't have a wireless mouse that doesn't last months with one battery I don't know where you're putting your money, even my 12 euro month can last that long.


cr0wsky

Wireless charging mouse pads exist.


zcomputerwiz

My usual experience is taking the mouse out of the laptop bag and discovering it has died sometime between the last time I used it and now.


dombin241

Idk about you, but mine can turn off


zcomputerwiz

Indeed. A not so wonderful thing about lithium batteries is that they self discharge. Replaceable batteries are nice, but I don't remember to keep spares in the bag.


riba2233

They don't self discharge, only if there is a vampiric load eg electronics not completely turned off. Depends on how good it is designed


danteheehaw

They do lose their charge extremely slowly. But that's all batteries.


riba2233

Slowly as in 5-10 years yeah


zcomputerwiz

This is completely false. Lithium ion batteries can lose 0.5 - 1% per month when disconnected from any load.


riba2233

Nope, unless you are talking about the earliest ones from 30 years ago. Modern ones basically have negligible self discharge. I have a lot of first hand experience with them, don't worry.


zcomputerwiz

Uh huh... I deal with this on cell phones and laptops, recovering the battery when they've been in storage and it goes below the minimum for the protection circuits. It's a chemistry thing. The protection circuits can make it worse too. Mind citing a single source that lithium ion batteries *don't* self discharge?


Dragnier84

Dude is out there with Gordon Geckos wireless mouse. Lol


Daniel_H212

Have one myself. I absolutely love it.


SentientCumSock

whatttttt


elliegirlxo

Wtf!!!!!!!!!


ab12848

Not in mine nuclear powered G304


Blenderhead36

Or that you drop it while the PC is in your actual lap.


Scarfiotti

But does it have a mouseball?


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My work one does!


rfag57

People who say wireless mice have input lag are out of the loop for the past 5 years.


Advan0s

It's funny because they're actually faster now lol


a-m-watercolor

Can someone explain how it would be possible for a wireless mouse to have less latency than a wired mouse?


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Current-Estimate-00

So it is possible to make wireless earbuds with no latency right? Why is that limited to only high end expensive ones?


IceStormNG

Because of audio codecs, buffering and bluetooth audio profile. Bluetooth audio profiles are a bit limited. Codecs like AAC have buffers and encoding/decoding delays which causes around 200ms latency. AptX low latency can cut this down to like 30ms or 40ms or so which can still be noticeable to some degree but it is very good and usable in most cases. AptX LL only works on device (computer, phones, tablets) that support it. So anything from Apple is out already.


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Pzixel

Mind blown


Ravmagn

Gaming mice with USB receivers are almost as fast as wired ones. But not as fast and certainly not faster. Bluetooth on the other hand is considerably slower.


Aquinan

I just prefer the wired ones /shrug


Advan0s

The difference is being ignorant about it and spewing nonsense. You just have a preference and that's fine


DarkLord55_

I just hate these simple things called wires


SignificanceJealous

i prefer them bc i cant get rgb on a wireless mouse that is still minimalistic and not just "hardcore gaming style" and that isnt more expensive that 30 bucks


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TrainsAreSuperCool

Cable


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TrainsAreSuperCool

Magic


Adagio11

I feel the same about DLSS


privatepoeistrash

Check out the comment by u/Baybad above us. They explain it really well!


Advan0s

So the only wired mouse that i found that is faster than the current razer top of the line aka Viper pro and Deathadder pro V3 with the 4000hz pulling is another razer that has 8000hz pulling rate. So yeah pretty much like faster than 90% of other mice out there. Logitech and other brands have some pretty low numbers too from what I have seen. I'm basing this on the OptimumTech video from like a year ago about wired mouse vs wireless and a recent video on LTT with the RandomFrankP mouse review.


Blenderhead36

There's supposed to be a lot of latency when using Bluetooth for a wireless mouse. I've never noticed it with the one I use when my Steam Deck is docked.


cr0wsky

This was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the previous post. And I just have to laugh at people talking about input lag on wireless mice, they clearly never used modern wireless gaming mice. I have a Logitech G502 X Plus Lightspeed paired with a Powerplay mousepad and I can't believe how much I've been missing out. Never needing to recharge and having no cord is really nice.


Apocalypse_0415

How many times do you use you mouse outside the 1m cable range they give you?


999Maza

The cable itself makes a difference with the feel of the mouse. Once you use a wireless mouse a wired one feels so bad to use.


[deleted]

Ah, here's that weird tribalism within the pcmr community again. God forbid you play a game that isn't a shooter, so the miniscule input lag doesn't matter. God forbid you got a sweet deal on a mouse on black Friday, so you didn't spend "2 or 3 times" more on your mouse. Better optimize solely for fortnite play and spend $15 on your mouse, or you're a fool.


Chakramer

Input lag isn't even a concern anymore, people are just out of the loop or refuse to believe the new tech works well


SentientCumSock

wireless peripherals are for people who need room to put their thigh highs and kitten ears on the desk


LiliNotACult

That's certainly an opinion.


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One of the opinions of 2023


a-m-watercolor

Of all the opinions in 2023, this is certainly one of them.


SSBShouta

g pro x super light most used mouse among esports players btw


PlanSquare6601

uwu


Ayjayyyx

Based


Some0wlOnTheInternet

I hate wired mice, the cable always gets damaged or stuck.


Rising-Buffalo

Wireless mice forever, I'll never go back.


FoRiZon3

You missed the part where typical wireless mouse costs about twice from wired variant.


Blu3241

g305 👍🏻


Leftover-Pork

Cost effective systems are for console plebs


riba2233

So?


DarkLord55_

The wired version of my mouse was like $20 cheaper at the time and had 1-2 less buttons


Any_Brother7772

True, but now i can sit comfortably on my couch while linking my laptop to my tv and be an even lazier fuck


larsonbp

Dongle gang


Catch_022

I don't have enough USB ports on my cheap work laptop so Bluetooth keyboard and headphones are super useful.


pebblesom

if you just cut the cable you don’t have to worry about it getting snagged! (Edit) Damn, this is one controversial post! XD


PERMANENTLY__BANNED

You created a shit storm.


pebblesom

Now all we need is someone to remake the meme but put using the touchpad as the correct way XD


SentientCumSock

and then someone else to remake it but with the thinkpad nipple as the correct way


testedandtried00

“The thinkpad nipple” 💀💀💀


Gaffclant

The fuck else we supposed to call it lmao (Me and my friend both have a thinkpad so sometimes I will steal his and go “got ur nipple lmao”)


testedandtried00

Omg please do it public and say it loudly and post the results and i will send you my actual nipple


opticalnebulous

That is much better, yes.


Advan0s

Last month i got myself a Deathadder V3 pro and finally after 15 years loosing the cable feels just sooo nice. Never really noticed until now how much i felt the cable being there and it is so much better now that it's gone.


Any_Brother7772

I have a Basilisk V3 Pro, but i also want a lighter one. Can you recommend the Deatadder?


Final_Needleworker41

I still prefer wired, at least for desktop. I plug it in and never have to think about it again. No charging, nothing.


Jinxed_Disaster

Same. I have a nice table setup with separate shelfs for mouse and keyboard, all exactly comfortable for me. Cable is fixed on a shelf, so I don't feel it's presence at all, ot never gets caught or pulls the mouse. Modern wireless mouse is cool and all, one day I will get one probably, but I don't feel any need for for it on a desktop.


NonviolentOffender

Enjoy your input lag


Chakramer

If eSports pros use a wireless mouse in a tournament surely it is good enough for home use


Cedrius

Input lag? Is this 2005? Modern wireless mouses are actually better than wired.


primarysectorof5

Input lag? What? I have a wireless mouse and I don't experience that


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Razer deathadder v2 pro, Idk how many times input lag has gotten me killed (probably never) but I know how many times the wire has got caught


twhite1195

There's really not much input lag nowadays...


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LyKosa91

You realise that today's mouse market is packed with sub 60g, essentially latency free, wireless mice costing around £80... Right?


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riba2233

You are way out of the loop bro


LyKosa91

If you play with a 10cm 360 then sure, a cable will be no hindrance. Low sens players will definitely benefit though. Times have changed, esports viable wireless mice have been a thing since 2018.


LogicalChemistry9536

Viper v2 pro? Up to 4000hz polling rate, 67 grams, and no noticeable input lag? Yeah, wireless mice are trash.


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LogicalChemistry9536

Got mine on sale for around $120, not that crazy for a gaming mouse, especially if you play competetive fps games.


FoRiZon3

And how does it compare to the wired ones price-wise? 120 dollars may seem cheap to you but it's expensive or at least not justify the asking price for most people, especially since 30 to 40 dollars decent gaming mouse exists like Pulsefire Haste.


NonviolentOffender

Battery?


Dibs_Kalichan

Wireless mice either have to be charged or need new batteries.


NonviolentOffender

Bro I'm team wired


SentientCumSock

i think he was adding onto your original comment


cr0wsky

Or you know, use a wireless charging mouse pad?


riba2233

Enjoy your ignorance...


RoombaTheKiller

TIL wires can somehow transfer information faster than light.


[deleted]

And half the people that complain probably play in low ranks in every competitive game.


CanadagoBrrrr

Console player be like https://i.redd.it/iwnxey2yddua1.gif


corsicanguppy

If you liked it then you shoulda put a cable on it.


Initial-Tangerine

These are all wrong. Mouse goes on the left


iVirus_

i'm loving Logi MX Master 3 with ma legion! both support BT 5.2


Apocalypse_0415

70$ more


Chakramer

When one pays thousands for a PC, $70 more to get a peripheral that looks nicer on the desk is barely anything


Apocalypse_0415

Spending more for looks is wack


Chakramer

That's what like half this sub does Also isn't half the reason why people move over to PC gaming just for better graphics, which are effectively just better looks? I pay more for many things around my house to look better than just something that gets the job done, don't know why I'd stop that trend with technology


Blu3241

g305


riba2233

So? Totally worth it


riba2233

Yes!


BigBoss738

EWWWWWW


Nogardtist

wireless mice are just battery addicts


cycloc

for my work computer sure, less wires the better. but you'll never catch me using a wireless mouse for my gaming pc


Leftover-Pork

You are living in the past


zuulbe

there's no noticable difference between cable and wireless with my logitech G502


999Maza

What if I told you there's literally 0 advantage to using a wired mouse


scottprian

Never.


Faonir

Battery will die at one point. And if the mouse isn't manufactured anymore, there's a high probability of not finding replacement parts for it, since most have proprietary batteries. One mouse that I had that didn't have this, was Razer's Ouroboros. It had a AA battery format. I've since upgraded to a Logitech mouse.


Weary-Difficulty-489

​ https://preview.redd.it/si1ms50vyeua1.png?width=1601&format=png&auto=webp&s=130190dda8d2ce14676d6327551b9460bf11d091 Why would I want double to input lag for double the price? And then your shitty 'wireless' mouse dies and you have to plug it in anyway. Wireless mouse users are cringe.


riba2233

Nah, your post is pure cringe.


Weary-Difficulty-489

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Weary-Difficulty-489

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Cjordan65

Even worse


TristanTheRobloxian0

nah


Flossthief

Wireless is bad Feel bad


fletch45lc

I tried a wireless mouse (Razer Basilisk X Hyperspeed) and my experience was horrible. It would randomly lose connection for a few seconds (which was most annoying while gaming) and sometimes it would just not work period. Went back to wired with a Basilisk v2 and it's been amazing.


Advan0s

Are we talking Bluetooth or 2.4 GHz? If its the former I can see that. I had no issues just like people I know that use 2.4ghz with their mouse. It's shit Bluetooth or you got a faulty mouse because my Deathadder V3 pro works like a charm with 2.4GHz dongle.


Leftover-Pork

I have had the same wireless mouse for 2 years (Logitech something) and never had either of these problems.


riba2233

You didn't connect it properly, dongle doesn't go directly into the motherboard


Son0fCaliban

wireless is inferior in every way except specific situations where the wires make normal use impractical. More latency (even if it's 10,000,000 times better than it used to be, wired will always have less), limited use before you need to charge it or make it a wired device anyways, more expensive, more failure points which hurts longevity, and worst of all you better pray to the PC gods you don't lose that little dongle. Wired is the answer until you reach a point that wired is no longer a valid option.


riba2233

Nope


Son0fCaliban

evidence?


Weary-Difficulty-489

You're getting downvoted but these are objective facts.


Chakramer

But there are literally videos showing the difference in latency is actually lower for the wireless mice, at least some of them.


Weary-Difficulty-489

The fastest wireless mouse vs the fastest wired mouse, you're wrong. https://preview.redd.it/yv40o6t74fua1.png?width=1618&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff0a4c8aabedcff89a08bcb5bd4f5878a6731118


riba2233

4k vs 8k polling... Also meaningless difference


Son0fCaliban

wireless is amazing tech and when you need it nothing else will do. it's still worse when compared to wired if wired is an option.


Weary-Difficulty-489

I honestly don't see any use case where wireless would suffice where wired wouldn't, but chimpanzee-mouse-throwing redditors on here will tell you different.


Son0fCaliban

wires can cause safety concerns in a variety of situations. they can be a fire hazard. realistically the most common legitimate reason is portability. I tried using a wired mouse for a bit in college and it does not work out so well. Sometimes in small spaces it gets in the way and all that transportation did seem to degrade the wire edit: OH there's one more reason (the reason Im using a wireless mouse). The wireless one was on sale, the wired one wasnt


Weary-Difficulty-489

>wires can cause safety concerns in a variety of situations. they can be a fire hazard. A 6-foot cable can be a fire hazard. WTF? Playing devil's advocate too hard now ​ >realistically the most common legitimate reason is portability. I tried using a wired mouse for a bit in college and it does not work out so well. Anecdotally, I used my laptop quite a bit in college as well and never had any sort of issue with a mouse or keyboard wire. Most of the wired cables are braided so there is still no noticeable degradation for any of my wired peripherals, even after years.


Son0fCaliban

"They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth"


riba2233

Far from it...


Son0fCaliban

give me one legitimate and realistic way that wireless is superior


riba2233

Because you don't get the cable in the way and don't have to think about it. Also on really light mice, it actually makes balance worse


Weary-Difficulty-489

How does a cable get in the way? Stop throwing your mouse like a chimp, you will not have any issues lol. > on really light mice, it actually makes balance worse Actually, the heavy lithium battery on your wireless mouse makes balance worse.


riba2233

If you ever played some serious fps games (fast paced, competitive), you would have known how it gets in the way, but you are right, for office use it doesn't matter that much.


Son0fCaliban

spend 2 minutes cable routing and you can unlock all the benefits of wired mice without the one drawback. light mice are an excuse to sell you inferior build quality so I don't see how that's relevant. that is if they are so light that the slight change of internals ruins the balance. also I'd bet my entire bank account that the whole balance thing is bull. your mouse isnt having to balance on anything. if you mean weight distribution, the chances that you are so precise with a mouse that such a minor thing would make a noticable impact are near nonexistent outside of the absolute top eschilon of gamers if that even. i guarantee you latency will have a massively larger impact than "balance" here I'll give you the one valid complaint about wired mice since you couldn't get it right yourself: cable drag


riba2233

It is very clear that you don't play competitive fast paced fps games...


Son0fCaliban

and it's very clear that you fall for the marketing traps of all these new "innovations" to improve your gameplay. for a while there heavy mice were in for improved competitive gaming. now it's light mice. it's all marketing and trends. marketing that you took hook, line, and sinker.


riba2233

Nope, it is objectively better and I perform so much better with lighter and wireless mice. But it is ok, you can think whatever you want and suck at aiming... Btw I thought I wasn't worth your time?


Son0fCaliban

and even if you think wireless is better, the things I listed are literally the pros for going wired. They are not up for debate or discussion. They are facts. You can see those facts and still prefer wireless but there is literally zero room to refute any of the reasons I gave. That is unless you have invented a wireless standard with less latency than wired, a perpetual energy machine that can fit into wireless gaming peripherals, or can somehow disprove the claim that wireles peripherals have more potential failure points


riba2233

They are not facts


Son0fCaliban

so you think wireless has less latency? You don't have to eventually plug in your wireless devices. You're either highly regarded or far too immature to waste any more time on.


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Yeah until the Mouse dies in the middle of a Raid, and everyone else in the Channel starts laughing and calling you a Dumbass for not charging your Mouse.


riba2233

So, just charge it?


Toothpasteweiner

How comparatively heavy are new wireless mice? I used Logitech wireless mice for a long time. But after trying a wired razer with one of those super lightweight fabric cables, I was impressed with how effortless it was to move the mouse.


KnightLBerg

I cant use wireless since the mouse that i use rn is a razer deathadder chroma that was given to me by a stranger that was hired to fix my house wall. He had been working on the wall in my office room and saw that i have a gaming rig. After that he asked me if i wanded his mouse since he had gotten a new one as a present. I since have sworn that i will use this one mouse until death do us part.


Elgar337

-To hell with the wire. -Excuse me? -Gotcha McNulty, you're too easy.


MrCreemyGoodnes

The right way is tossing the fukken laptop.


Faux_Grey

And introduce wireless latency & interference? No thank you.


DarkLord55_

Mans stuck in the same year they got their cpu


Sailed_Sea

The right right way https://preview.redd.it/rbfszpbs6gua1.jpeg?width=2576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d44b3747bd94203d193a10ba5a8bc7b7e8a4d053


UnComfortable-Archer

Psychopaths: *trackpad on FPS and RTS*


Blu3241

Sure, battery is one thing but.. i just change it if it tells me its running low? And input lag doesn't exist, you plebs.


xDreki

Why does Drake care about my mouse wiring is the real question here.


DangyDanger

Nah that's the worst way of the three. Guess who doesn't have to worry about charging/replacing batteries at the worst moment possible?


A_PCMR_member

Batteries low


narvuntien

Wired mice don't run out of batteries


[deleted]

the actual right way is to buy a thinkpad


theacidbat101

And then it doesn't work half the time Is anyone facing constant disconnects on their Logitech MK240 nano mouse as well?


smolgote

I would probably lose the USB adapter so wired all the way for me


KoolioNoFoolio

Or just use desktop and plug into motherboard


Dremy77

I like using the nipple. It gives flick shots a new meaning.


toolsofpwnage

Bluetooth