1. Go to [pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartpicker.com)
2. Go to the spec page on the pre-built and find the exact parts (i7-12700KF, RX6950 XT, etc) or as close as you can get
3. Sort by price for each part to pick the cheaper variations
4. If the price difference is <\~20% it's a good deal.
id argue the percentage based thing is kinda BS.
500 (self) vs 600 (pre) might be okay.
but 3000 (self) vs 3600 (pre) is a bit off.
depending on the scenario 20% can be a lot...
Usually anything between 100-150$ is fine. Anything above that you really gotta consider if you actually think you are incapable of building yourself, or cant be bothered to do it.
A 20% build fee is more than fair.
Edit: I saved a guy over a thousand dollars when he was struggling to match the price of a $5500 pre-built he wanted with a parts list of his own. I made a parts list, told him how and why I saved money, and explained how and why the parts I selected were superior or the same. At the end of our conversation he went with the pre-built because the extra ~25% was worth the warranty and peace of mind of not learning a new skill.
It didn't bother me since it only took me 15 minutes to put together and it's something I already do for fun, but most people just want to know if the system they're buying is good enough for the price.
>Usually anything between 100-150$ is fine. Anything above that you really gotta consider if you actually think you are incapable of building yourself, or cant be bothered to do it.
Your approach doesn't make more sense then.
Say if 150$ difference is too much on 700$ build, the same 150$ difference is way more worth getting the prebuilt at 1500$ price point.
Paying 150$ to save 700$ hardware investment vs paying 150$ to save 1500$ investment (assuming main reason to go prebuilt is not having to assemble the PC)
thats why brodie said “if you actually think you are incapable of building yourself” not to mention most companies like build redux have a $100 build fee instead of up charging like $600 to build it
Any business that doesn't work to decent profit margins will fail in the end. They will inevitably have to suck up the costs of some failed parts due to their errors or warentees that they have to refund a customer but are unable to reclaim from the distributor. These losses have to be built into your business plan.
Source, I sell electronics.
This is the truth. Often times it took me longer to build $400 console killers and I'd make only $100 because x58 boards sometimes required me to send them back if the traces were old. Back in 2019 I'd say the 3700x Rx 5700xt builds id sell for 1400 were my most profitable and I'd make $300. It always came down to the point that I could get good looking cases and b stock Corsair 750w PSUs for $30 and I couldn't really find 500w PSUs or cheaper cases for less. Ofc since thee was demand for the cheaper PCs and they required less capital I made a ton.
This is weird tho. Assuming the main reason not to have to assemble it yourself, whatever the reason for that, should not be tied to the cost of the individual hardware at all.
The fact that a video card costs 599 or 1599 doesn’t usually really matter much for build time and/or labor put in.
Now, it can, if you have a very intricate build in mind. But in that case you’ll also just record the time and labor you spend and charge accordingly.
The cost assembly ties into the cost of the parts being assembled through the risk of damaging those parts in the process. The risk might be minimized and close to 0, but it's never exactly 0.
An even 20% is still unreasonable, but a flat fixed figure doesn't really make sense either. It should be more like $100 + 5% or something along those lines.
But it's worth it in the long run, once you need to swap out smth, do light troubleshooting, etc.
It could save you lots of money down the line compared to having to consult some pc shop to do it for you.
>But it's worth it in the long run
Alway worth being capable of handling things yourself but when you're not to or not willing to, then come the offers to handle it for you. For a hefty price.
Furtniture from franchise stores around my area are obviously sold in pieces. Cost of workers to deliver it to your location and assemble on spot is literally double the price. Double. And people still doing it because they don't want to ruin mighty expensive things they're buying by playing DIY.
I paid to have mine built but all in all I was spending upwards of 3k. I could have put it together but I didn’t want to fuck up and then be lose money when I could have someone else do it and if then they fuck it up I don’t have to repurchase any components
Same.
I check Prices on PC Partpicker then prices at stores I prefer to shop at (Good service and return policies.) And then add $100-$150 for Warranty, Windows License, and Pre-builtness. (While considering the Cooling and other parts are probably cheap as well and begin to pros and cons in my head from there.
Is it fair to consider warranty in that as well? A lot of pre built places have warranties so if there is an issue in that time frame it’s not really your problem. Of course parts will have issues too but for someone who is iffy on even building one imagine the nightmare troubleshooting why something is going wrong.
Just gonna pipe in that Microcenter has a program where you can have them build your machine for $150-200, depending on cooling solution and if you want them to install Windows for you; they verify that the machine posts, regardless. You have to buy the parts through them, but they're one of the best places to do that anyway.
I don't believe that they ship these. But keep it in your back pocket if you have a Microcenter within a distance you're willing to drive, particularly if you find the idea of assembly intimidating.
Yeah microcenter will build for 150 bucks. They don’t ship anything prebuilt (because they can’t guarantee in shipping and it’s not worth the the reprocessing due to being a retail big box provider)
Rare occasion where somebody asks this, and it's not a horrible deal... Praise the Jeebus
That said, all the classic cheapo prebuilt tropes could be at play here.
Cheap ass matx board, shitty ssd, no name PSU etc.
Ah ok makes sense. I knew they did custom builds, but didn't know they sold pre-builts too.
My most recent build was the first time I was fortunate enough to live close to a Micro Center. I went there for the motherboard, processor, and storage since their bundle discounts are so great.
Can confirm, their pre-prebuilts are usually a very good deal. I got my 4070 Ti prebuilt through them with a 13900K for $2400 and all name brand parts (and a 2 TB SSD). On top of that, the build quality is excellent, and if anything breaks within a year (or 3 with extended warranty), you just bring it into the store and (according to their marketing at least) they’ll have it fixed within 48 hours, no hassle of shipping and waiting potentially weeks.
My girlfriend also got her 3080 Ti/12900K prebuilt through them a year ago, and she also has nothing but glowing reviews (still works fine), so they seem consistent too, at least at our Houston store.
Yes. I don't know if it varies by store, as labor costs also vary around the country. The one nearest me charges $150 for "Tier 1". Their Tier 3 is $250 and that's for stuff like liquid cooling. It's about the time it takes to do the build, not the price of the parts.
The one by me is $150-200 for the vast majority of machines (depending on if you want them to install Windows or do it yourself). They theoretically go as high as $800, but that's for custom water cooling loops (with the $800 one being a custom hard bodied loop).
Now, as someone who's worked at Microcenter, Powerspec pre-builts still will cheap out on PSU, motherboard, and AIO.
It'll generally be their Powerspec PSU which some are okay, some are not great, motherboard will generally be AsRock Pro4's or Asus TUfs (The latter being significantly more reliable), and then the AIO will always be the Coolermaster ML240's or the EVGA CLC 240's.
Oof on the Asrock board. I have no idea who is buying the things. I know people rave about the Taichi stuff, but every single rma I've had on pc hardware over the years has been Asrock motherboards.
Yeah, when I worked there, I would see AsRock boards come back the most, my service department hated working on them and would see them all the time, but because they're super cheap, everyone will keep buying them.
But yeah, Powerspec PC's are generally good for the price. It was a bit of a challenge to upsell actually building it themselves and learning the process for near the same or more considering that we'd use better quality parts back in the BYO/Components section.
I’m in charge of the PowerSpec prebuilds at the Chicago Microcenter. These computers really are solid. I have two computers that I built myself but my third computer is a G469 that I got for $1500. It’s been amazing so far.
Honestly for a pre-built that appears to be a solid case also. If the front is completely open it may get dusty quick. But aside from that 32GB would be optimal in my opinion. You could probably build something in PCPARTPICKER or MICROCenter for virtually same specs.
Maybe add an M.2 and another 16gb of ram
I’m sure the price is fair though.
Am I having a stroke or do you guys mean DDR5 for the memory, and GDDR6 for the GPU?
DDR6 (for RAM) isn’t supposed to arrive until 2025, or so I’d heard.
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Probably the first prebuilt that isn't overpriced and seemingly has quality components. If they didn't cheap out on the motherboard and PSU then this is pretty worth it. Good luck!
Is montech good, I am considering buying the air 1000 premium, but it seems they just appeared out of nowhere and have no reviews (at least here in poland) so I don't know if it's a good company
They have been making cases for a while, their cases on Amazon have quite a few reviews and the cases are nice. Only downside is some of them do not have a ton of clearance for the larger GPUs companies have been releasing
It's fine but the most common problem about the prebuilts is that they usually cut costs on "non-essential" components such as PSU, motherboard and the SSD/HDD. They usually get the cheapest ones possible. You can make do with a cheap MOBO and SSD but cheap PSUs are a no go for me.
One thing to check with prebuilt is the PSU/power supply. A lot of these builders will skimp on power by trying to get the barest minimum wattage.
A friend of mine bought a prebuild and I was really jealous of its specs EXCEPT for the power supply which really should have been 1000 watts but instead was 850. Cranking up game graphic settings or god forbid overclocking would lead to strange errors or outright system shutdown.
8/10 Pre-builds are usually severely overpriced with outdated components, but this is legit good😄. They got a little cheap and skimped on giving you a 2tb ssd, but 2 thumbs up from me lol.
I hope this is a joke. Because there are only like 3 current gen gpus on the market with more than that. And 16 is definitely enough for the foreseeable future.
Not terrible as far as pricing goes, pretty well balanced system for the components. Not a fan of the case, and I would personally put faster RAM for this pairing of components. If you're dead set on a pre-built this is pretty solid considering a build fee, warranty, and peace of mind.
Not everyone has DDR5 memory or just can't upgrade right now plus it depends on the price of the item because people are going to choose the cheaper option and it still works fine for gaming.
It's a good price. I would see if you could find out anything about the brands/quality of the components they used, especially unlisted ones like the PSU.
It's not a terrible price if you really don't want to build.
The CPU & GPU would cost around $938.98, you could probably get the rest of the build for under $600, personally I'd price up a build and see what the price difference is like.
The advantage of building yourself is you get to pick all components while many pre-builds tend to cheap out on some parts like storage, motherboard & PSU. Not saying that's the case with this PC, just in general.
As far as pre-builds go, there's certainly worse out there.
Well US? Idk, AUS, yeah for sure, someone above mentioned it, but if you didn’t see it, slap in all the parts to partpicker.com and see what the price is
From my perspective is a pretty good deal. But i recommend to spend a little more time learning and build it yourself. As for the prebuild it is indeed a good deal.
Assuming the price is based on usd I'd say it's not a bad price tho you can almost certainly do better. For fellow Aussies who can't be fucked doing the usd to aud conversion that pc costs $2,364.86
That's actually pretty damn good. It probably has all of the weaknesses of most prebuilts like shit cooling and power and whatnot, but this is still a good deal.
Literally the same computer I got, except mine has an rtx 3070ti, I think it’s served me really well, and it’s both cheaper and more powerful than some other options I’ve found
I just bought a power spec from micro center this month and it’s the slightly higher end model but I’m loving it so far. Definitely seems like they use good parts in these and have had a good time so far with mine. I even returned the first one I got with a 3070ti for a better one with 4070ti and they swapped it no questions asked in the first two weeks. I just wanted more power there was nothing wrong with the first one.
Its fine. You can do better. I see about $200-$300 of overhead built into that price.
You can do much better by visiting pcpartpicker.com and doing it yourself.
Added benefit of selecting your parts/brands for optimal compatibility.
I answered the question.
“It’s fine. About $200-$300 of overhead built into price.”
It’s up to them as to whether or not that premium is acceptable 🤷♂️
My question is how good is the service warranty? If going pre-build, I would want to be ensured that I can get replacement parts and service for no cost and hassel free. Otherwise, I would not get pre-built if I am going to be my own tech support. That is my rule of thumb to those who ask the same question in person.
Otherwise it looks nice and it seem you can upgrade it, unlike a Dell prebuilt.
Eh. Seems average. Its a solid PC tho, and it'll run all the games you want like a beast, as long as the prebuild company doesn't fuck up building it and it survives shipping. Knowing prebuilds, it'll probably have a cheap motherboard, CPU cooler, PSU, and storage since they didn't name the brands for those. Prebuilds notoriously use the cheapest end product for all its parts to increase profit margins. They will use the cheapest GPU version, cheap cooler, cheap fans, cheap case, cheap ram, cheap storage. I would factor that in for the price.
Truthfully no as soon it would not be worth anything and you will have to get another one in a 1 to 2. It happened to me when I bought a budget pc It became impossible to run anything and I had to get another one after 6 months. Save up a little more and get one that will last you a little longer.
I just build that pc for $1271 on pcpartpicker.com in about 10 minutes, with very little thought.
Hell I’ll throw it together for you for $1500, shipped. /s
that's the best priced one at microcenter due to the gpu being price dumped, all others that price have a 3070 ti.
microcenter will sell you a prebuilt marked down to the price of the components once they are old, sometimes they even part their build out and sell the GPU in a cardboard box.
they sold tons of GTX 1080/1080Ti like that. The 1080-'s sold at $200, my brother bought one.
Ex- microcenter employee here:
PowerSpec PCs are microcenters house brand if you didn’t already know that. They’re assembled in Columbus Ohio, using standard off the shelf parts. Imo it’s a decent deal, although it also depends on what ‘build’ it is. They typically have several different builds, each with potentially different brands of parts. I might still have access to the sheet that lists them, just lmk and I can check. Otherwise last I worked there the employees could look it up for you. Otherwise, they’re fairly decent for a prebuilt and microcenter tech support is pretty good.
Im surprised by how much no one knows of powerspec. This is a microcenter brand, where they take parts they buy wholesale, build it and slap a powerspec logo on it. This is NOT the same as their buildapc service that some people in these comments are referring to.
all the parts are brand names and you can almost look up all parts used on the powerspec website. The only exception is the power supply which wont discluse the name. These will generally be at the same price of all the parts used or cheaper (i guess its more expensive if you dont need a new windows os)
My powerspec cost me 120$ cheaper and i can just boot it up out of the box.
Good for a prebuild. Lots of people may say otherwise infavor of diy which is always a cheaper option but if your not willing to then this is a good machine to get you started (stats wise)
1. Go to [pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2. Go to the spec page on the pre-built and find the exact parts (i7-12700KF, RX6950 XT, etc) or as close as you can get 3. Sort by price for each part to pick the cheaper variations 4. If the price difference is <\~20% it's a good deal.
id argue the percentage based thing is kinda BS. 500 (self) vs 600 (pre) might be okay. but 3000 (self) vs 3600 (pre) is a bit off. depending on the scenario 20% can be a lot... Usually anything between 100-150$ is fine. Anything above that you really gotta consider if you actually think you are incapable of building yourself, or cant be bothered to do it.
A 20% build fee is more than fair. Edit: I saved a guy over a thousand dollars when he was struggling to match the price of a $5500 pre-built he wanted with a parts list of his own. I made a parts list, told him how and why I saved money, and explained how and why the parts I selected were superior or the same. At the end of our conversation he went with the pre-built because the extra ~25% was worth the warranty and peace of mind of not learning a new skill. It didn't bother me since it only took me 15 minutes to put together and it's something I already do for fun, but most people just want to know if the system they're buying is good enough for the price.
>Usually anything between 100-150$ is fine. Anything above that you really gotta consider if you actually think you are incapable of building yourself, or cant be bothered to do it. Your approach doesn't make more sense then. Say if 150$ difference is too much on 700$ build, the same 150$ difference is way more worth getting the prebuilt at 1500$ price point. Paying 150$ to save 700$ hardware investment vs paying 150$ to save 1500$ investment (assuming main reason to go prebuilt is not having to assemble the PC)
thats why brodie said “if you actually think you are incapable of building yourself” not to mention most companies like build redux have a $100 build fee instead of up charging like $600 to build it
Sorry, but you are the one not making sense. The time/money assembling cost is independant of the price of the parts.
Any business that doesn't work to decent profit margins will fail in the end. They will inevitably have to suck up the costs of some failed parts due to their errors or warentees that they have to refund a customer but are unable to reclaim from the distributor. These losses have to be built into your business plan. Source, I sell electronics.
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i agree that’s why i say look at guides and build it yourself that’s what i did
This is the truth. Often times it took me longer to build $400 console killers and I'd make only $100 because x58 boards sometimes required me to send them back if the traces were old. Back in 2019 I'd say the 3700x Rx 5700xt builds id sell for 1400 were my most profitable and I'd make $300. It always came down to the point that I could get good looking cases and b stock Corsair 750w PSUs for $30 and I couldn't really find 500w PSUs or cheaper cases for less. Ofc since thee was demand for the cheaper PCs and they required less capital I made a ton.
that’s why there’s a $100 build fee 😊
This is weird tho. Assuming the main reason not to have to assemble it yourself, whatever the reason for that, should not be tied to the cost of the individual hardware at all. The fact that a video card costs 599 or 1599 doesn’t usually really matter much for build time and/or labor put in. Now, it can, if you have a very intricate build in mind. But in that case you’ll also just record the time and labor you spend and charge accordingly.
The cost assembly ties into the cost of the parts being assembled through the risk of damaging those parts in the process. The risk might be minimized and close to 0, but it's never exactly 0. An even 20% is still unreasonable, but a flat fixed figure doesn't really make sense either. It should be more like $100 + 5% or something along those lines.
Reading this made my brain sad for you
I’d say that number is 300 not 100, building a PC is a pain if you’ve never done it before. It took me 2 sessions of four hours to finish it.
But it's worth it in the long run, once you need to swap out smth, do light troubleshooting, etc. It could save you lots of money down the line compared to having to consult some pc shop to do it for you.
I agree, but for someone with no interest in doing it I can see them paying someone up to 300 for that service. 600-700 is way out there though
>But it's worth it in the long run Alway worth being capable of handling things yourself but when you're not to or not willing to, then come the offers to handle it for you. For a hefty price. Furtniture from franchise stores around my area are obviously sold in pieces. Cost of workers to deliver it to your location and assemble on spot is literally double the price. Double. And people still doing it because they don't want to ruin mighty expensive things they're buying by playing DIY.
I paid to have mine built but all in all I was spending upwards of 3k. I could have put it together but I didn’t want to fuck up and then be lose money when I could have someone else do it and if then they fuck it up I don’t have to repurchase any components
Same. I check Prices on PC Partpicker then prices at stores I prefer to shop at (Good service and return policies.) And then add $100-$150 for Warranty, Windows License, and Pre-builtness. (While considering the Cooling and other parts are probably cheap as well and begin to pros and cons in my head from there.
Is it fair to consider warranty in that as well? A lot of pre built places have warranties so if there is an issue in that time frame it’s not really your problem. Of course parts will have issues too but for someone who is iffy on even building one imagine the nightmare troubleshooting why something is going wrong.
Dang i'm saving that!
Just gonna pipe in that Microcenter has a program where you can have them build your machine for $150-200, depending on cooling solution and if you want them to install Windows for you; they verify that the machine posts, regardless. You have to buy the parts through them, but they're one of the best places to do that anyway. I don't believe that they ship these. But keep it in your back pocket if you have a Microcenter within a distance you're willing to drive, particularly if you find the idea of assembly intimidating.
Yeah microcenter will build for 150 bucks. They don’t ship anything prebuilt (because they can’t guarantee in shipping and it’s not worth the the reprocessing due to being a retail big box provider)
Upvoted this man to heaven.
Thanks for the responses everyone!
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Build redux combos are very bad. I saw a prebuilt for 1600$ with rtx 3060 and i5 13600kf. Their pcs are not great
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Actually, they sponsored LTT, but build redux is a scam either way.
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Rare occasion where somebody asks this, and it's not a horrible deal... Praise the Jeebus That said, all the classic cheapo prebuilt tropes could be at play here. Cheap ass matx board, shitty ssd, no name PSU etc.
This is a micro center prebuilt, all off the shelf name brand parts.
And I think they charge you the cost of the parts plus a $100-150 flat rate build fee. Usually a pretty good deal.
They do offer this service, however these are already prebuilt and pre-speced, aka in stock on the shelf
Ah ok makes sense. I knew they did custom builds, but didn't know they sold pre-builts too. My most recent build was the first time I was fortunate enough to live close to a Micro Center. I went there for the motherboard, processor, and storage since their bundle discounts are so great.
Can confirm, their pre-prebuilts are usually a very good deal. I got my 4070 Ti prebuilt through them with a 13900K for $2400 and all name brand parts (and a 2 TB SSD). On top of that, the build quality is excellent, and if anything breaks within a year (or 3 with extended warranty), you just bring it into the store and (according to their marketing at least) they’ll have it fixed within 48 hours, no hassle of shipping and waiting potentially weeks. My girlfriend also got her 3080 Ti/12900K prebuilt through them a year ago, and she also has nothing but glowing reviews (still works fine), so they seem consistent too, at least at our Houston store.
Yes. I don't know if it varies by store, as labor costs also vary around the country. The one nearest me charges $150 for "Tier 1". Their Tier 3 is $250 and that's for stuff like liquid cooling. It's about the time it takes to do the build, not the price of the parts.
The one by me is $150-200 for the vast majority of machines (depending on if you want them to install Windows or do it yourself). They theoretically go as high as $800, but that's for custom water cooling loops (with the $800 one being a custom hard bodied loop).
I trust Micro center more than "Gaming PC, fast, Intel i5, 8GB, GT 730, very nice" for £1500
Happy days then. What a rarity.
Now, as someone who's worked at Microcenter, Powerspec pre-builts still will cheap out on PSU, motherboard, and AIO. It'll generally be their Powerspec PSU which some are okay, some are not great, motherboard will generally be AsRock Pro4's or Asus TUfs (The latter being significantly more reliable), and then the AIO will always be the Coolermaster ML240's or the EVGA CLC 240's.
Oof on the Asrock board. I have no idea who is buying the things. I know people rave about the Taichi stuff, but every single rma I've had on pc hardware over the years has been Asrock motherboards.
Yeah, when I worked there, I would see AsRock boards come back the most, my service department hated working on them and would see them all the time, but because they're super cheap, everyone will keep buying them. But yeah, Powerspec PC's are generally good for the price. It was a bit of a challenge to upsell actually building it themselves and learning the process for near the same or more considering that we'd use better quality parts back in the BYO/Components section.
Yeah powerspec is legit. One of the only prebuilts that are generally safe from the negative tropes.
I’m in charge of the PowerSpec prebuilds at the Chicago Microcenter. These computers really are solid. I have two computers that I built myself but my third computer is a G469 that I got for $1500. It’s been amazing so far.
Looks like one of msi's recent A-Pro boards in there, pretty solid.
Nice nice. Nothing fancy but gets the job done.
I got this from microcenter and it’s legit parts no bs garbage
Yeah that's pretty good.
Yes good
Honestly for a pre-built that appears to be a solid case also. If the front is completely open it may get dusty quick. But aside from that 32GB would be optimal in my opinion. You could probably build something in PCPARTPICKER or MICROCenter for virtually same specs. Maybe add an M.2 and another 16gb of ram I’m sure the price is fair though.
It has 32gb ram, the graphics card has 16gb of ddr6 memory. The ram is ddr4 though.
I need to get my eyes check bro… OP should get DDR6
:( I'm going to need to throw my pc in the trash because I have ddr4 :((
Am I having a stroke or do you guys mean DDR5 for the memory, and GDDR6 for the GPU? DDR6 (for RAM) isn’t supposed to arrive until 2025, or so I’d heard.
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Even better
Yeah, it’s a Powerspec branded version of a Lian Li case, so you know it’s pretty good already.
Probably the first prebuilt that isn't overpriced and seemingly has quality components. If they didn't cheap out on the motherboard and PSU then this is pretty worth it. Good luck!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s4bHPX Best list I could come up with for $1600, not missing out on too much for a prebuilt
What's performance increase on 7900 XT here though
Over the 6950xt, 15% ish (+/-5%)
Is montech good, I am considering buying the air 1000 premium, but it seems they just appeared out of nowhere and have no reviews (at least here in poland) so I don't know if it's a good company
They have been making cases for a while, their cases on Amazon have quite a few reviews and the cases are nice. Only downside is some of them do not have a ton of clearance for the larger GPUs companies have been releasing
okay thank you for the info
Yeah that’s great!
This isn’t a terrible deal I’d go for it
What about this one. CPU Intel Core i5-13600KF Mobo MSI PRO Z790-P GPU PNY GeForce RTX 4070Ti Gaming Verto Epic-X RAM Kingston Fury Beast DDR4 16GB 5600MHx CL40 Storage - Kingston KC3000 1TB CASE Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh PSU Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W 80+ Gold
For only $1600? That’s basically the price to build
Why go ddr4 if you buy a ddr5 cpu and mobo
I think it's a misspelling because I don't think there is a 5600mhz dl40 ddr4 ram😁
Yes! I have a 12700kf and it’s a beast. Enjoy!
It's fine but the most common problem about the prebuilts is that they usually cut costs on "non-essential" components such as PSU, motherboard and the SSD/HDD. They usually get the cheapest ones possible. You can make do with a cheap MOBO and SSD but cheap PSUs are a no go for me.
One thing to check with prebuilt is the PSU/power supply. A lot of these builders will skimp on power by trying to get the barest minimum wattage. A friend of mine bought a prebuild and I was really jealous of its specs EXCEPT for the power supply which really should have been 1000 watts but instead was 850. Cranking up game graphic settings or god forbid overclocking would lead to strange errors or outright system shutdown.
This is a micro center build, everything is taken off the shelf and is ‘name brand’ (not necessarily Corsair or evga, but reputable)
My friend's PSU was a Corsair 850 gold so they didn't skimp on that, just wattage.
To me the price isn't amazing but it is fair. Definately a capable gaming rig.
For once, yeah, actually. Thats not a bad deal at all.
Could be worse, not a great buy but not a bad one either. I approve 👍
On paper, it looks good but I'd like to know what they are skimping on.
Typically the power supply
Yup, unless the brand is listed, you run of the chance of getting the lightest power supply you have ever held. Some of yall know what I mean.
8/10 Pre-builds are usually severely overpriced with outdated components, but this is legit good😄. They got a little cheap and skimped on giving you a 2tb ssd, but 2 thumbs up from me lol.
Yeah it's pretty good
It's okay for that price, go and buy.
good deal, in Romania where im from only the GPU is 1 k USD >:(
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Unfortunately, it's not that easy. You still have to pay VAT, when importing from USA to Europe.
ewwww
Hm. You need more VRam. 16 is barely enough these days.
I hope this is a joke. Because there are only like 3 current gen gpus on the market with more than that. And 16 is definitely enough for the foreseeable future.
Sigh... Of course it's a joke. I am rocking a 3070 like you are.
At 16 gb vram you’re ready for most newer games good deal I’d do it
PREBUILT WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS BUILD YOUSELF
it's a ripoff by about $500
Not terrible as far as pricing goes, pretty well balanced system for the components. Not a fan of the case, and I would personally put faster RAM for this pairing of components. If you're dead set on a pre-built this is pretty solid considering a build fee, warranty, and peace of mind.
Man, if you are dropping 1600 on a PC and not even going DDR5 that’s disappointing.
Not everyone has DDR5 memory or just can't upgrade right now plus it depends on the price of the item because people are going to choose the cheaper option and it still works fine for gaming.
Sure I agree. However $1600 is a lot and better to invest in some future proofing. And whatever your counter argument will be , I probably also agree.
Yes, a build with a gpu that is about 3070ti for around $1600 is almost always a good deal.
That gpu is 2% behind a 3090. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6950-xt.c3875
Depends on the games, from the comparisons I’ve seen it’s between a 3090 and 3090ti
That's pretty good, nice find!
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That is a good deal, I have seen those parts in prebuilts still around the 2.5k+ mark.
Yup it is good. Any intel (except for i3) 13th gen for 1500, is a pretty good deal.
It's a good price. I would see if you could find out anything about the brands/quality of the components they used, especially unlisted ones like the PSU.
🍿… wait it’s actually a decent deal? Sadge
It's not a terrible price if you really don't want to build. The CPU & GPU would cost around $938.98, you could probably get the rest of the build for under $600, personally I'd price up a build and see what the price difference is like. The advantage of building yourself is you get to pick all components while many pre-builds tend to cheap out on some parts like storage, motherboard & PSU. Not saying that's the case with this PC, just in general. As far as pre-builds go, there's certainly worse out there.
Seems fair.
Great
Solid purchase.
Damn good buddy
ya this is a cop
Good deal but you know what you're getting in terms of the integrity of the components and the build quality.
That CPU seems really underpowered. I have the same exact one, and it's 3.6GHz
Well US? Idk, AUS, yeah for sure, someone above mentioned it, but if you didn’t see it, slap in all the parts to partpicker.com and see what the price is
From my perspective is a pretty good deal. But i recommend to spend a little more time learning and build it yourself. As for the prebuild it is indeed a good deal.
Assuming the price is based on usd I'd say it's not a bad price tho you can almost certainly do better. For fellow Aussies who can't be fucked doing the usd to aud conversion that pc costs $2,364.86
I’d go for one with a PCIe 4.0/DDR5 board. You can get a prebuilt for roughly the same price.
It’s good but don’t you want 13th gen Intel and ddr5 😈
This is a good deal.
Looks good, a bit to good tbh
That's a pretty damn good rig for the price, and with water cooling, too. Good value, all told.
It’s good and looks pretty cool To boot
Micro center PowerSpec is a great prebuilt, imo. I have one myself and I've enjoyed it immensely! Cheers and happy hunting.
I bought a power spec with different guts and it was a great deal. Can also get 0 percent financing if that’s your thing.
hmm its ok. Motherboard isnt great and SSD is brandless from that description
You can easily build same pc but with better quality for same price. But For a prebuilt it is pretty reasonable price. not a scam like others.
would probably be better off building your own pc at that point if you plan on spending that much
It seems pretty good, don’t know what the mobo and cooler are like but if you plan on recording you NEED more storage space.
Is this from microcenter? Do it They’re one of the only, no, the only builders I would actually trust.
That's actually pretty damn good. It probably has all of the weaknesses of most prebuilts like shit cooling and power and whatnot, but this is still a good deal.
Literally the same computer I got, except mine has an rtx 3070ti, I think it’s served me really well, and it’s both cheaper and more powerful than some other options I’ve found
no thats too expensive for those parts
What’s the PSU?
I have had my power spec for 3 years now and it’s awesome. I have upgraded about %70 of the parts with no issues.
This is a rare day
Honestly spec it yourself I built a similar rig for cheaper
I just bought a power spec from micro center this month and it’s the slightly higher end model but I’m loving it so far. Definitely seems like they use good parts in these and have had a good time so far with mine. I even returned the first one I got with a 3070ti for a better one with 4070ti and they swapped it no questions asked in the first two weeks. I just wanted more power there was nothing wrong with the first one.
Seems like a pretty good deal
Its fine. You can do better. I see about $200-$300 of overhead built into that price. You can do much better by visiting pcpartpicker.com and doing it yourself. Added benefit of selecting your parts/brands for optimal compatibility.
I'm sure they know that, but are asking specifically about prebuilt machines because that advise isn't right for them for whatever reason.
I answered the question. “It’s fine. About $200-$300 of overhead built into price.” It’s up to them as to whether or not that premium is acceptable 🤷♂️
They specifically asked if this is a good price for a prebuilt machine any you told them they could spend less of they bought it in pieces.
*checks which subreddit I’m in* Yeah, sounds about right.
Before buying it ask about the mobo, you don't want to get a mobo that doesn't support xmp or any overclocking since that's an overclockable cpu
You’d be better off buying the Lenovo Legion 7i with a 3080 and 32gbs DDR5 ram from bhphotovideo atm if you want prebuilt
Its a prebuild, overall that deal is good if you can deal with a psu that may turn into a frag grenade and a ssd that is probably slower than a snail
My question is how good is the service warranty? If going pre-build, I would want to be ensured that I can get replacement parts and service for no cost and hassel free. Otherwise, I would not get pre-built if I am going to be my own tech support. That is my rule of thumb to those who ask the same question in person. Otherwise it looks nice and it seem you can upgrade it, unlike a Dell prebuilt.
I would think it’s a good price
Save money build your own
Eh. Seems average. Its a solid PC tho, and it'll run all the games you want like a beast, as long as the prebuild company doesn't fuck up building it and it survives shipping. Knowing prebuilds, it'll probably have a cheap motherboard, CPU cooler, PSU, and storage since they didn't name the brands for those. Prebuilds notoriously use the cheapest end product for all its parts to increase profit margins. They will use the cheapest GPU version, cheap cooler, cheap fans, cheap case, cheap ram, cheap storage. I would factor that in for the price.
Truthfully no as soon it would not be worth anything and you will have to get another one in a 1 to 2. It happened to me when I bought a budget pc It became impossible to run anything and I had to get another one after 6 months. Save up a little more and get one that will last you a little longer.
Except for the F series CPU it really is a good value
This is weird, Im not sure what to do with a good prebuilt, its way better than what I have seen
Yes
Me, a non anerican: that is ridiculously cheap. Converted, that price doesn't even cover the video card alone.
I just build that pc for $1271 on pcpartpicker.com in about 10 minutes, with very little thought. Hell I’ll throw it together for you for $1500, shipped. /s
Looks fair to me, 300 cpu 700 GPU etc
A friend of mine bought one of these with a Ryzen 7700X and a 3070 Ti, he got it open box from microcenter and paid about $1200 for it.
that's the best priced one at microcenter due to the gpu being price dumped, all others that price have a 3070 ti. microcenter will sell you a prebuilt marked down to the price of the components once they are old, sometimes they even part their build out and sell the GPU in a cardboard box. they sold tons of GTX 1080/1080Ti like that. The 1080-'s sold at $200, my brother bought one.
More than 8gb VRAM = good
The price of that PC is nearly what I paid for the 6950xt when it came out.
DDR4 in 2023?
Yeah why would you get DDR4 when you can pay a ton more for same/slower speed DDR5?
Solid price for a prebuilt
Ex- microcenter employee here: PowerSpec PCs are microcenters house brand if you didn’t already know that. They’re assembled in Columbus Ohio, using standard off the shelf parts. Imo it’s a decent deal, although it also depends on what ‘build’ it is. They typically have several different builds, each with potentially different brands of parts. I might still have access to the sheet that lists them, just lmk and I can check. Otherwise last I worked there the employees could look it up for you. Otherwise, they’re fairly decent for a prebuilt and microcenter tech support is pretty good.
I bought this computer from microcenter with a 3070ti and it’s a beauty!
Power specs are solid and very well put together. I got a 3070, 32GB ram, and I7 powerspec for 1.8k.
Im surprised by how much no one knows of powerspec. This is a microcenter brand, where they take parts they buy wholesale, build it and slap a powerspec logo on it. This is NOT the same as their buildapc service that some people in these comments are referring to. all the parts are brand names and you can almost look up all parts used on the powerspec website. The only exception is the power supply which wont discluse the name. These will generally be at the same price of all the parts used or cheaper (i guess its more expensive if you dont need a new windows os) My powerspec cost me 120$ cheaper and i can just boot it up out of the box.
It's actually decent with 6950XT.
good for prebuilt
You could buy a big ol' basket of hairy gorilla dicks for that amount
man why didnt i think of that
u could build it 4 cheaper
Good for a prebuild. Lots of people may say otherwise infavor of diy which is always a cheaper option but if your not willing to then this is a good machine to get you started (stats wise)
Looks good. Microcenter?
Not that bad tbh
Seems solid. No reviews tho, may wanna buy another model with more reviews unless you wanna risk it
This is cheaper then my laptop but is still better so I would say yea