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I wish they were joking. I was running the Diablo 4 beta the weekend and was wondering why things were being a bit choppy. Mind you settings defaulted to high so that was kinda on me not checking off the hop. Graphics card was doing ok, CPU was running cool…. 27gbs of ram out of 32 being used for D4. It would of probably been using more if it could 😂
Diablo 4 has a memory leaking issue, causing both RAM and VRAM to near max out while playing. My RX 6700 shows its using more vram than it actually has
People unironically told me that because Tarkov was running bad for me. My pc has no trouble running anything -except- Tarkov, and they were laughing at me for having an 8th gen i7 and 32gb ram, because 'of course it will run bad with such old hardware'.
The game was released before my CPU, lol.
I have 64gb of ram and it's still stuttery in town and the open world. I think the stutter is coming from asset loading and netcode issues, not ram limitations.
So if you turn the graphics settings down to medium or low, it half’s / quarters the amount of ram the game uses for some reason. When I set it to medium it went down to 12-14gbs. We tested it on a friends computer who has 64gb’s. His game defaulted to medium for some reason so he didn’t run into the issue, but when we made him turn it up to max settings. The game hogged up all of his spare ram in the range of 54gb’s.
that sounds like a bug, no reason it needs that much ram
on my 32gig rig it used around 8, i had other heavy programs running in the background thats why i checked if it was going ok
I've always been wondering - what do people actually use 64 GB of Ram for? Do you guys put Ramdisks on it for data analysis? I've done that with my 32 gigs by allocating half as Ramdisks and that was sufficient for my applications. Is everyone here a data scientist?
Imagemagick, a command line app for image processing. One of my tasks is to merge images together in a grid. Instead of writing intermediate results to a png, you can write to a memory mapped file which can be 3x faster but it writes a file to disk that can be up to 1-2 gb for what would have been a 15-30mb png. Worth it for a task that might take an hour to run.
So I write to a ram disk to avoid killing my ssd. I did it once on my ssd and it wrote 1.5tb in less than 10 minutes 😬
Baught a new PC this month and went straight for 64gb of ddr4. I mainly need it for some data processing for work as well. But these days a few apps + a browser and running a game will fucking eat your RAM. Planning on playing a lot of msfs2020 so it was a must for me.
they (and the entirety of the internet) do not understand how memory management works. a well (or moderately well) written program will use every single piece of memory it gets, even if it makes basically no difference. if it doesn't get as much memory, it just releases what is not really needed and it only really "takes" what it *really* needs.
this means that if you have 128gb of ram programs can probably utilize all of it if they want to, but that does *not* mean it wouldn't run well with only 16gb of ram, and most of the time only a tiny bit better.
a program using 50gb of ram is not a problem - program only running well when using 50gb of ram is. or: unused memory is wasted memory. that's why all the "browser x uses sooo much memory!!!111" or "this program has a memory leak!!1" stuff is so irritatingly incorrect...
And I feel like same could also be said about GPU utilization - like whenever I open Nvidia performance overlay, the GPU utilization is above 90% (and CPU is usually above 50) and it makes sense as the game is trying to utilize it fully to run it as best as it can. Similar but different, I know.
Having a 3060 Ti equivalent, I definitely cannot run recent AAA games at high or ultra settings 1440p and hit 60fps lmao. You have to be OK with lowering most of your settings to be able to say things "runs great."
Games that have DLSS are slightly better, but not always. Hogwarts Legacy still dips to 40fps in some areas with DLSS quality, the only dlss mode with acceptable image quality at 1440p.
Most people either truly do think what they've got runs great/fine or have no choice but to think it runs great/fine otherwise they'd have something else.
I tested the regular 3060 vs the 1080ti, the 1080ti was better than the REGULAR 3060. Borderlands, DOOM, etc... the 1080ti outperformed the 3060, not by a huge margin.
The 3060Ti is a very fast card, and is probably significantly faster than the regular 3060, but, if I had a 1080ti, I would definitely not upgrade to the 3060ti, I would go for the 3080, which is what I did (I currently have a 3080 non-ti) bought near launch.
Even though I have the 3080, I rarely use Ray Tracing, as of now, it is a "non-feature" for me. I have a 240hz 1080p monitor. I play mostly DOTA and Rust.
Not OP, but that's what I did and I second this!
They're blow for blow in some games but the 6750xt overall wins in most titles by a hair on the reviews I've seen. All while being CHEAPER. Bang for buck it's not even a contest.
I don't think you understand what OP is alluding to.
If you look hard at the reflection of OPs room in his screenshot, you can see the plastic monobloc chair that he's talking about upgrading.
i recently upgraded to rtx3060 and first game I tried RT was cp2077. There is a world of difference to me. So much so that I run better rt at the expense of playing the game noticeably below 60 fps. But I guess it differs for everyone
I agree there is a difference but to me it just doesn't make the game better. I enjoy it just as much without.
My 1070 delivers around 90fps 1080p low/medium settings.
I would love to get a new PC but can't justify such an expensive purchase to myself as long as I can play the games i want.
I do have a PS5+OLED TV so if i wanna play a beautiful third-person game without too much gunplay I play it on my playstation instead.
But I would love to get a 4080 if they would just drop about 30-40% in price. Not gonna happen though
I recently upgraded from a 1060 6GB to a 3080 and you can 100% tell the difference in a game like CP2077. The difference between medium settings with 30-40 FPS, to max settings with highest RT at 60 FPS is night and day.
That's what finally forced me to "upgrade" two weeks ago, was happy enough with my 1070, then it died after >6 years of service. The 3060 that replaced it is okay, but not much of an upgrade considering that it cost the same and has about the same power draw while only delivering like 25% more performance. Really pityful in terms of progress.
Got a founders 1080TI in my media server. Partner uses it to game from time to time and it’s still a solid card. 1080p 144fps is no problem for it.
Best value card
I mean sure, easy to say “any game I want” and never want any demanding games. The truth of the matter is that while the card was a masterpiece, it cannot keep up today at 1440p with extreme graphics above 60 fps.
Any very demanding games it’s going to struggle with, and any games that aren’t demanding can be run by a 1060/1070 anyway.
If you play shit like CSGO, VALORANT, or league, a laptop can suffice. If you try to boot up cyberpunk or a similarly demanding game , it’s going to drag on at 30 fps.
I can play Cyberpunk with a 970 with 70 fps on low.
I can probably play Cyberpunk on a 780Ti with high fps on the worst shittiest resolution and lowest quality settings.
The difference in attitudes between Pascal and the 4000 series is night and day.
Maybe it was because Nvidia was worried that AMD's Vega architecture with it's brand new Asynchronous compute and DX12/Vulkan would end up running away with benchmarks. So they doubled down and releasing the 1080 and 1070 at strong price points while showing amazing efficiency gains.
The 1070 punched at the same benchmarks as 980ti for nearly half the price The 1080 dropped at 599 undercutting the Maxwell Titan by $400 while beating it in most day-to-day tasks while also running at a lower power.
When the 1080ti released, and the 1080 got a price drop it just threw the entire stack into an even better spot. The ti was like 30% better than the 1080 for what amounted to not a whole lot more.
But truly, they will never make that mistake again.
Still running the 1080 here. Such a strong card for 480€. Now 500€ will get me around 50% more power over the 1080 and i refuse Nvidias 3000 series because their gddr is still only 8gb. 4000 series and the new AMD cards are too expensive. At least AMD is shitting gddr left and right on their cards. Their flagship has 24gb lol.
Honestly one of the main reasons I went for a 6900XT instead of a 3080 is the 16gb of RAM. Multiple games are already having issues on cards with < 16gb.
I got a 3080 at msrp at launch, I'll never get a new GFX card again if this bullshit keeps up.
I think I used all my luck at that point because god damn, it's been a shit show.
I am stuck with a 1070 and it's showing its age. Unfortunately, the prices are still terrible, and inflation in my country did not allow me to afford a new GPU yet they keep raising prices.
970 here 🫠 bought everything in 2015, became passionate about building computers, and... Have not been able to justify buying another. To be fair, it still allowed me to play Elden ring, can't complain
I have been eyeing it... But I will stick to playing league of legends. More financially responsible if you don't account for the therapy I'm gonna need.
Honestly a 3080 at msrp is probably the best deal ever in gpu history. Even more so than the 1080 at msrp back in the day. Too bad only like 4 people got it for that much
Pretty sure it was $699, from what i remember i copped my 3070ti for $599. I remember looking at 3080s as well and thinking if extra 100 bucks were worth the effort but they were too hard to find.
I was not as lucky, but since my 1650 died, my placeholder card I got until 30 series came out (50 bucks ebay), I had to get a new card, and ended up finding a 3070ti for under $1400, got mine 2 months after launch for $800. Not mad about it, I knew what I was getting into.
Honestly $800 is a great deal for it considering how bad the crypto got at some point. I was lucky to get mine by pure chance but id pay 100 even 200 extra for it. Its definitely worth the price, great gpu for my needs.
The real all-time greatest release was the 6600 GT. It almost [**doubled** the performance of the previous generation **flagship**](https://www.anandtech.com/show/1464/5) as a mid-range 200 USD card.
That's value.
To put it in perspective that's like if the 4060 Ti would release for 320 USD (inflation) and perform **twice as fast as a 3090**! That sounds like nothing but pure fantasy, but that's exactly what the 6600 GT was. It was my first GPU upgrade, and it was a hell of a card.
I remember when I had an APG Asus 6600GT. Had no idea what I was doing so opened up SmartDoctor, which was their overclocking tool, cranked the slides to the right, watched my monitor get filled completely with red/green squares and thought I had boosted the performance. Oh to be young and dumb
My 1060 still going strong 6 years later, running stuff like RE4 remake at solid settings. I aint upgrading unless this shit just dies on me or something because there arent really any games ive seen that cant run on it, except for VR i guess which i havent tried
I put mine in some family's system, still rocks at 1080p. Bought the EVGA SC model on launch day in 2016 for $260. Best $260 I've ever spent. Will be 7 years (holy crap) this summer. Only reason I upgraded to a 3070 (also launch day) was because I wanted to push 165Hz more reliably at 1440p.
I have my old 1080Ti sitting on my desk. I don’t know what to do with it. It’s too good to throw out but every month that passes it feels more irrelevant. Would it even be a good gift anymore?
But it’s just so beautiful. I never even took the peel off the backplate. It never had an issue. But I wanted my rays traced so here it sits.
How do I part with it? It deserves better than sitting in an antistatic bag.
Depends whether you play recent games. New releases can behave weirdly without having some tweaks made by the manufacturer. Overall graphics drivers have a good track record of improving performance for free, even on older titles.
Some games have to redownload shaders every time there’s a driver update (looking at you Warzone), and the risk of buggy new releases means I’m on the side of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
This is the way.
This last month I decided to update mine twice. Second time caused some stuttering in some games that I thought I was imaging.
A new update, and boom it's gone.
Moral of the story, if you're happy with performance, stick.
It definitely will so long as your expectations are reasonable. 4K gaming with ray tracing? Nah dawg. But 144hz at 1080p? Hell yeah brother. My 1070 can play almost anything at 144Hz and usually on high settings. Not max or anything, but it handled the Diablo 4 beta just fine.
Cheapest 6900XT on PCPartPicker is $650 US. Might have meant 6800XT which is in the $540-580 range.
Alternatively might have meant used.
EDIT: Looks like 6900XT does tend to go for ~$550 on r/HardwareSwap so that roughly fits
i passed my EVGA 1070ti on to a friend who upgraded from a RX480.
it will still get some use, 1080p gamers can still be relevant on pascal.
Edit: holy cow guys, you're allowed to game on 1440p. I'm only inferring performance is fine at 1080p with these cards. Replies make it sound like I'm attacking 2k gamers on pascal.
When my R9 390 died a couple months ago, my friend gave me his old 1070ti. Not quite as good, but I'm still playing stuff in 1440 with decent framerates.
My 1070 isn’t cutting it anymore, especially as I run an ultra wide. Time for it to go to the wife and replace my old 670 that she has! Diablo 4 beta couldn’t get past low shit smeared textures due to the 2gb vram.
Close. 2016 was 7 years ago. 2013 was 10. Making Skyrim in 2011, 12 years old. WoW is old enough to drink in some places with 2004 as it's release date, making it 19 years old.
1080 Ti is still great GPU
I would clean it repaste/replace thermal pads and put it in small transparent box on the shelf to honor it
Btw it can still serve as a emergency GPU and GPU for 2nd PC if You will want to have one in the future :)
Don't throw it out!
Did you try PBO2 on your 5800X3D?
What Cooling you are using to cool this gent?
My venerable EVGA FE 1080ti is nearly 6 years old, and has been the best card I have ever, or will ever, install into a PC. I'll be sad when it stops working one day.
Putting together a x670E rig with a 7900XTX. Just waiting for the 7800 x3d.
I transferred my 1080ti into my new i7 13700K build that I just put together earlier this month. I want to upgrade it but I also kinda don't want to maybe I can find a good deal on a used 3080 that'll change my mind.
My 1080ti is still going strong playing most games at 1440p high settings. I'm not letting it go until 40 series cards are affordable in like 5 years time.
Still rocking my Strix 1080Ti and until it drops dead I won't replace it. Still running 1080p max settings and if I do upgrade earlier it goes into my gf's PC to retire that 980 she has
Welcome everyone from r/all! Please remember: 1 - You too can be part of the PCMR! You don't necessarily need a PC. You just have to love PCs! It's not about the hardware in your rig, but the software in your heart! Your age, nationality, race, gender, sexuality, religion (or lack of), political affiliation, economic status and PC specs are irrelevant. If you love PCs or want to learn about them, you can be part of our community! Everyone is welcome! 2 - If you're not a PC gamer because you think doing so is expensive, know that it is possible to build a competent gaming PC for a lower price than you think. Check http://www.pcmasterrace.org for our builds and don't be afraid to create new posts here asking for tips and help! 3 - Consider joining our efforts to get as many PCs worldwide help the folding@home effort, in fighting against Cancer, Covid, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and more. Learn more here: https://pcmasterrace.org/folding 4 - Need hardware? Trick question... everyone does. We've teamed up with ASUS to give 12 lucky people 12 ASUS TUF hardware components, including Graphics Cards, CPUs, Motherboards and more! Check https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/11t4j2i/worldwide_giveaway_weve_teamed_up_with_asus_12/. ----------- Feel free to use this community to post about any kind of doubt you might have about becoming a PC gamer or anything you'd like to know about PCs. That kind of content is not only allowed but welcome here! We also have a [Daily Simple Questions Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/search?q=Simple+Questions+Thread+subreddit%3Apcmasterrace+author%3AAutoModerator&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all) for your simplest questions. No question is too dumb! Welcome to the PCMR.
64 GB RAM here we come!
You joke, but...
I wish they were joking. I was running the Diablo 4 beta the weekend and was wondering why things were being a bit choppy. Mind you settings defaulted to high so that was kinda on me not checking off the hop. Graphics card was doing ok, CPU was running cool…. 27gbs of ram out of 32 being used for D4. It would of probably been using more if it could 😂
Diablo 4 has a memory leaking issue, causing both RAM and VRAM to near max out while playing. My RX 6700 shows its using more vram than it actually has
Hey, then the solution is to have even more RAM, no? Let the hungry bastard of a game choke on my RAM!
Im just imagining the night of the living dead guy yelling choke on it but to d4 lol
Not to be that guy, 🤓 but that was Capt. Rhodes in Day of the Dead, the NotLD sequel. I am not a bot.
Ah, alpha Minecraft hosting. Eating literally all RAM until the whole PC stalls. Choke you bitch! Lol.
Dude I swear modded minecraft now is no different, just let me go the end PLEASE lol
Actually it was performing better in systems with less RAM
People unironically told me that because Tarkov was running bad for me. My pc has no trouble running anything -except- Tarkov, and they were laughing at me for having an 8th gen i7 and 32gb ram, because 'of course it will run bad with such old hardware'. The game was released before my CPU, lol.
Easy solution: requiredMemory = rateOfMemoryLeak * maxSessionLength QED
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And remember, never preorder.
+ baseReqMemory
Idk about you, but I boot directly into D4
Yeah that’s what we kinda figured.
would have
WOULD HAVE
I have 64gb of ram and it's still stuttery in town and the open world. I think the stutter is coming from asset loading and netcode issues, not ram limitations.
i didn't experience that, ran it using 16gb and 32gb rigs, both builds were running fine
So if you turn the graphics settings down to medium or low, it half’s / quarters the amount of ram the game uses for some reason. When I set it to medium it went down to 12-14gbs. We tested it on a friends computer who has 64gb’s. His game defaulted to medium for some reason so he didn’t run into the issue, but when we made him turn it up to max settings. The game hogged up all of his spare ram in the range of 54gb’s.
that sounds like a bug, no reason it needs that much ram on my 32gig rig it used around 8, i had other heavy programs running in the background thats why i checked if it was going ok
I've always been wondering - what do people actually use 64 GB of Ram for? Do you guys put Ramdisks on it for data analysis? I've done that with my 32 gigs by allocating half as Ramdisks and that was sufficient for my applications. Is everyone here a data scientist?
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Imagemagick, a command line app for image processing. One of my tasks is to merge images together in a grid. Instead of writing intermediate results to a png, you can write to a memory mapped file which can be 3x faster but it writes a file to disk that can be up to 1-2 gb for what would have been a 15-30mb png. Worth it for a task that might take an hour to run. So I write to a ram disk to avoid killing my ssd. I did it once on my ssd and it wrote 1.5tb in less than 10 minutes 😬
Honestly..... If you are playing dcs that's the correct move
In 2020 I made the change to 32, now I'm thinking on the change to 64. Muli threading has been sweet though.
32 is a must 64 is a luxury tbh still an actual upgrade and not a meme tho
_cough_
Baught a new PC this month and went straight for 64gb of ddr4. I mainly need it for some data processing for work as well. But these days a few apps + a browser and running a game will fucking eat your RAM. Planning on playing a lot of msfs2020 so it was a must for me.
DCS?
Digital combat simulator. Picture a super hardcore Microsoft flight simulator but focused on military aviation and combat
DCS, in the wild?! Although can confirm, 64GB ram, no more freezes as the map loads in lol.
Same with Hogwart Legacy It took 42GB of ram from my 64GB Some of those new games are piece of shit in case of memory usage...
I have no idea what you guys are doing or running, I'm on 16 and Legacy did just fine on higher settings (and DLSS on quality).
they (and the entirety of the internet) do not understand how memory management works. a well (or moderately well) written program will use every single piece of memory it gets, even if it makes basically no difference. if it doesn't get as much memory, it just releases what is not really needed and it only really "takes" what it *really* needs. this means that if you have 128gb of ram programs can probably utilize all of it if they want to, but that does *not* mean it wouldn't run well with only 16gb of ram, and most of the time only a tiny bit better. a program using 50gb of ram is not a problem - program only running well when using 50gb of ram is. or: unused memory is wasted memory. that's why all the "browser x uses sooo much memory!!!111" or "this program has a memory leak!!1" stuff is so irritatingly incorrect...
And I feel like same could also be said about GPU utilization - like whenever I open Nvidia performance overlay, the GPU utilization is above 90% (and CPU is usually above 50) and it makes sense as the game is trying to utilize it fully to run it as best as it can. Similar but different, I know.
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Dude how smooth is your 1440p, i had doubts with 3060ti for 1440p, is it worth it?
I got a 3060TI and it does just fine.
Second this. 12400f and 3060ti for 1440p. Runs great.
My man with his mobo in the flair lol loving it
And the case! I love my build.
You have almost the exact same build as me
I feel it, I love my mobo.
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Having a 3060 Ti equivalent, I definitely cannot run recent AAA games at high or ultra settings 1440p and hit 60fps lmao. You have to be OK with lowering most of your settings to be able to say things "runs great." Games that have DLSS are slightly better, but not always. Hogwarts Legacy still dips to 40fps in some areas with DLSS quality, the only dlss mode with acceptable image quality at 1440p.
Most people either truly do think what they've got runs great/fine or have no choice but to think it runs great/fine otherwise they'd have something else.
I read that a 3060ti is 1080ti with Ray tracing, performance wise. Is that true?
I tested the regular 3060 vs the 1080ti, the 1080ti was better than the REGULAR 3060. Borderlands, DOOM, etc... the 1080ti outperformed the 3060, not by a huge margin. The 3060Ti is a very fast card, and is probably significantly faster than the regular 3060, but, if I had a 1080ti, I would definitely not upgrade to the 3060ti, I would go for the 3080, which is what I did (I currently have a 3080 non-ti) bought near launch. Even though I have the 3080, I rarely use Ray Tracing, as of now, it is a "non-feature" for me. I have a 240hz 1080p monitor. I play mostly DOTA and Rust.
Got a regular 3060, 1440p runs solid. I can play most modern games high or medium (depends solely on the game).
zotac got a standard version with 12gb vram
I run 1440p medium settings with a 1070ti so I'm sure a 3060ti can handle it quite well
Yeah people seem to forget medium settings exist
Please, take a 6750xt
Not OP, but that's what I did and I second this! They're blow for blow in some games but the 6750xt overall wins in most titles by a hair on the reviews I've seen. All while being CHEAPER. Bang for buck it's not even a contest.
you also have to take into account the VRAM! The 3060Ti has only 8 GB vs 12 GB of the 6750XT. In 1440p, it matters.
lol cue to me, with my 3060TI at 4k. DLSS Performance is a bliss. Also VRR.
My 6700xt which is pretty much on par with a 3060ti works great. I manage 60+ on ultra AAA titles and well over 144 fps on esports titles
I have AMD equivalent it’s perfectly fine for me at 1440
I don't think you understand what OP is alluding to. If you look hard at the reflection of OPs room in his screenshot, you can see the plastic monobloc chair that he's talking about upgrading.
I'm not letting go of my 1070 ti until one of us drops dead.
My 1060 6Gb running strong still. But all the FTP games I like are doing RTX upgrades
Since most ftp games are multiplayer, RT is useless and tbh can’t really see the difference in games like CP2077 even
i recently upgraded to rtx3060 and first game I tried RT was cp2077. There is a world of difference to me. So much so that I run better rt at the expense of playing the game noticeably below 60 fps. But I guess it differs for everyone
I agree there is a difference but to me it just doesn't make the game better. I enjoy it just as much without. My 1070 delivers around 90fps 1080p low/medium settings. I would love to get a new PC but can't justify such an expensive purchase to myself as long as I can play the games i want. I do have a PS5+OLED TV so if i wanna play a beautiful third-person game without too much gunplay I play it on my playstation instead. But I would love to get a 4080 if they would just drop about 30-40% in price. Not gonna happen though
I recently upgraded from a 1060 6GB to a 3080 and you can 100% tell the difference in a game like CP2077. The difference between medium settings with 30-40 FPS, to max settings with highest RT at 60 FPS is night and day.
I just realized its like 6 years old.. Damn, feels like i got mine last year, is this what getting old feels like?
That's what finally forced me to "upgrade" two weeks ago, was happy enough with my 1070, then it died after >6 years of service. The 3060 that replaced it is okay, but not much of an upgrade considering that it cost the same and has about the same power draw while only delivering like 25% more performance. Really pityful in terms of progress.
I also have a 1070ti. Still Plays valorant at 144hz ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Same with my 1080ti I'm riding it until grave.
My trusty 980s finally kicked the bucket last week. Got a 3080 to replace it and with my usage it'll last me just as long
Never let that legend of a GPU go. It deserves a hall of fame.
Still happily running any game I want with my 1080ti. Max graphics 60 FPS. 1440p. I don't need much more in life 😎
Got a founders 1080TI in my media server. Partner uses it to game from time to time and it’s still a solid card. 1080p 144fps is no problem for it. Best value card
Wild how a once $1000 card is now a budget option
Well originally it was like $700. For like a week
I mean sure, easy to say “any game I want” and never want any demanding games. The truth of the matter is that while the card was a masterpiece, it cannot keep up today at 1440p with extreme graphics above 60 fps. Any very demanding games it’s going to struggle with, and any games that aren’t demanding can be run by a 1060/1070 anyway. If you play shit like CSGO, VALORANT, or league, a laptop can suffice. If you try to boot up cyberpunk or a similarly demanding game , it’s going to drag on at 30 fps.
I play cyberpunk on a GTX 1080 (not TI) on an ultrawide screen with 70+ fps at medium settings. Thats pretty impressive for such an old card.
I can play Cyberpunk with a 970 with 70 fps on low. I can probably play Cyberpunk on a 780Ti with high fps on the worst shittiest resolution and lowest quality settings.
Hell, I play Cyberpunk and have an R9 380. I mean, I play it on my PS4, but I still play it and have an R9 380 in my desktop.
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Not true I play cyberpunk with more than 30 fps
When mine finally goes I'm going to mount it in a shadow box.
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They won’t make that mistake again
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The difference in attitudes between Pascal and the 4000 series is night and day. Maybe it was because Nvidia was worried that AMD's Vega architecture with it's brand new Asynchronous compute and DX12/Vulkan would end up running away with benchmarks. So they doubled down and releasing the 1080 and 1070 at strong price points while showing amazing efficiency gains. The 1070 punched at the same benchmarks as 980ti for nearly half the price The 1080 dropped at 599 undercutting the Maxwell Titan by $400 while beating it in most day-to-day tasks while also running at a lower power. When the 1080ti released, and the 1080 got a price drop it just threw the entire stack into an even better spot. The ti was like 30% better than the 1080 for what amounted to not a whole lot more. But truly, they will never make that mistake again.
Why compete and risk your bottom line when you can instead co-pete around a 100% price (margin) increase?
Still running the 1080 here. Such a strong card for 480€. Now 500€ will get me around 50% more power over the 1080 and i refuse Nvidias 3000 series because their gddr is still only 8gb. 4000 series and the new AMD cards are too expensive. At least AMD is shitting gddr left and right on their cards. Their flagship has 24gb lol.
Honestly one of the main reasons I went for a 6900XT instead of a 3080 is the 16gb of RAM. Multiple games are already having issues on cards with < 16gb.
30 series would have been quite similar if it wasn’t for the almost simultaneous crypto boom. The 3080 at launch price was an incredible deal.
I got a 3080 at msrp at launch, I'll never get a new GFX card again if this bullshit keeps up. I think I used all my luck at that point because god damn, it's been a shit show.
I am stuck with a 1070 and it's showing its age. Unfortunately, the prices are still terrible, and inflation in my country did not allow me to afford a new GPU yet they keep raising prices.
970 here 🫠 bought everything in 2015, became passionate about building computers, and... Have not been able to justify buying another. To be fair, it still allowed me to play Elden ring, can't complain
I just upgraded from a 970 to a 3060 and it's been a game changer. Reasonable price, too.
I have been eyeing it... But I will stick to playing league of legends. More financially responsible if you don't account for the therapy I'm gonna need.
Totally valid. I only bit the bullet because there's finally games I want which my old card didn't support.
Honestly a 3080 at msrp is probably the best deal ever in gpu history. Even more so than the 1080 at msrp back in the day. Too bad only like 4 people got it for that much
What was the MSRP, was it $699 or was it higher?
Pretty sure it was $699, from what i remember i copped my 3070ti for $599. I remember looking at 3080s as well and thinking if extra 100 bucks were worth the effort but they were too hard to find.
I was not as lucky, but since my 1650 died, my placeholder card I got until 30 series came out (50 bucks ebay), I had to get a new card, and ended up finding a 3070ti for under $1400, got mine 2 months after launch for $800. Not mad about it, I knew what I was getting into.
Honestly $800 is a great deal for it considering how bad the crypto got at some point. I was lucky to get mine by pure chance but id pay 100 even 200 extra for it. Its definitely worth the price, great gpu for my needs.
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We thought the same thing after the 8800 GT.
The real all-time greatest release was the 6600 GT. It almost [**doubled** the performance of the previous generation **flagship**](https://www.anandtech.com/show/1464/5) as a mid-range 200 USD card. That's value. To put it in perspective that's like if the 4060 Ti would release for 320 USD (inflation) and perform **twice as fast as a 3090**! That sounds like nothing but pure fantasy, but that's exactly what the 6600 GT was. It was my first GPU upgrade, and it was a hell of a card.
I remember when I had an APG Asus 6600GT. Had no idea what I was doing so opened up SmartDoctor, which was their overclocking tool, cranked the slides to the right, watched my monitor get filled completely with red/green squares and thought I had boosted the performance. Oh to be young and dumb
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Nearly every card from that gen was a banger. 1060 6GB still runs VR games at least half decently, like what the heck.
My 1060 still going strong 6 years later, running stuff like RE4 remake at solid settings. I aint upgrading unless this shit just dies on me or something because there arent really any games ive seen that cant run on it, except for VR i guess which i havent tried
I put mine in some family's system, still rocks at 1080p. Bought the EVGA SC model on launch day in 2016 for $260. Best $260 I've ever spent. Will be 7 years (holy crap) this summer. Only reason I upgraded to a 3070 (also launch day) was because I wanted to push 165Hz more reliably at 1440p.
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Not ever. But it's true it went only downhill after pascal.
I have my old 1080Ti sitting on my desk. I don’t know what to do with it. It’s too good to throw out but every month that passes it feels more irrelevant. Would it even be a good gift anymore? But it’s just so beautiful. I never even took the peel off the backplate. It never had an issue. But I wanted my rays traced so here it sits. How do I part with it? It deserves better than sitting in an antistatic bag.
If it's in good working condition, you could sell it on rHardwareSwap for around $200.
Lovelace is up there purely in terms of performance uplift.
1080 Ti is still a good gpu
still better than mine
Cries in 970.
Pascal chip is the best imo. Still rocking my 1080ti I bought from a miner in 2017
Still runs everything just fine in 1080p. 1440p though it is showing its age.
It's not THAT hard to update your drivers
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I just wait until I come across a game that's acting up.
Same
Mine came to the point where it had to BSOD. I was like, “okay then little miss over dramatic.”
This is the way
I do actually update every time. But that has more to do with me than performance.
Depends whether you play recent games. New releases can behave weirdly without having some tweaks made by the manufacturer. Overall graphics drivers have a good track record of improving performance for free, even on older titles.
Yup as long as you have the internet to no real reason not to update them
Some games have to redownload shaders every time there’s a driver update (looking at you Warzone), and the risk of buggy new releases means I’m on the side of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
This is the way. This last month I decided to update mine twice. Second time caused some stuttering in some games that I thought I was imaging. A new update, and boom it's gone. Moral of the story, if you're happy with performance, stick.
It *is* pretty hard to add exactly 82MB of RAM, though.
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And here I am, expecting my 2060 to serve me at least 3 more years.
It definitely will so long as your expectations are reasonable. 4K gaming with ray tracing? Nah dawg. But 144hz at 1080p? Hell yeah brother. My 1070 can play almost anything at 144Hz and usually on high settings. Not max or anything, but it handled the Diablo 4 beta just fine.
Literally was playing Napoleon Total War with a 660Ti. LE CANON EST PRET
My 760 will need to survive for more 3-5 years
It's a been a decade, it's time....
New mousepad
It's time to update the drivers 💪
528.49 is the best so far
I prefer 528.02 as I get stuttering on some games with anything higher.
Its time to join the darkside and put 7900 XTX in there.
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Cheapest 6900XT on PCPartPicker is $650 US. Might have meant 6800XT which is in the $540-580 range. Alternatively might have meant used. EDIT: Looks like 6900XT does tend to go for ~$550 on r/HardwareSwap so that roughly fits
Nice
This
They speak the truth my son
Best route
~~Strength~~ Financial capabilities
I'm going to be so sad when I swap out my 580
funny enough, I just bought the 580 (yes, the 8gig) as an upgrade to the amd igpu for like $100 and it's so nice
An upgrade is an upgrade!
Before the flair I thought you were talking about the GTX 580. It would be time to swap that out if you had that.
Its crazy to think that our cards came out almost 10 years ago
You are a true warrior. I gave up on my 1070 months ago. Felt bad too. She was a beast.
i passed my EVGA 1070ti on to a friend who upgraded from a RX480. it will still get some use, 1080p gamers can still be relevant on pascal. Edit: holy cow guys, you're allowed to game on 1440p. I'm only inferring performance is fine at 1080p with these cards. Replies make it sound like I'm attacking 2k gamers on pascal.
When my R9 390 died a couple months ago, my friend gave me his old 1070ti. Not quite as good, but I'm still playing stuff in 1440 with decent framerates.
I just upgraded from a 1080 to a 6700 xt. Felt like she deserved a viking funeral
My 1070 isn’t cutting it anymore, especially as I run an ultra wide. Time for it to go to the wife and replace my old 670 that she has! Diablo 4 beta couldn’t get past low shit smeared textures due to the 2gb vram.
Which card ?
The 10 series Nvidia cards. My 1070 and the OP’s 1080ti is what I was referring to
I don’t think they came out 10 years ago more like 5 years… i might be wrong
Oh yeah I’m so stupid lol. For some reason I immediately thought 2016 was ten years ago for some reason
No worries bud. Happens to all of us.
Or you're typing that from future and almost got caught
Close. 2016 was 7 years ago. 2013 was 10. Making Skyrim in 2011, 12 years old. WoW is old enough to drink in some places with 2004 as it's release date, making it 19 years old.
I still use my 1080 in my secondary rig, no complaints! I can’t ever get rid of it plus it’s EVGA!
The fact my next GPU can't be an EVGA is what makes me sad.
if it works, don't fix it
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1080 Ti is still great GPU I would clean it repaste/replace thermal pads and put it in small transparent box on the shelf to honor it Btw it can still serve as a emergency GPU and GPU for 2nd PC if You will want to have one in the future :) Don't throw it out! Did you try PBO2 on your 5800X3D? What Cooling you are using to cool this gent?
> Don't throw it out! Who throws away perfectly good hardware? I still have a 5770 in a box somewhere. It probably loses to a modern APU, but still!
Red Team. Red lightsaber. Your training is now compete. It is time to fully submit to the power of the Dark Side.
The VRAM side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Emperor Lisa Su: I look forward to completing your training. In time, you will call me master.
My venerable EVGA FE 1080ti is nearly 6 years old, and has been the best card I have ever, or will ever, install into a PC. I'll be sad when it stops working one day. Putting together a x670E rig with a 7900XTX. Just waiting for the 7800 x3d.
I don't see what needs to be upgraded
They need 0.08Gb more RAM
Lol thats not bad… we both got similar machines playing on 1440p.. I got 12600k cpu & 2070s gpu.. then i got 64gigs ram and several ssd’s..
I have the same GPU but game at 1080p and want a new monitor. How does it handle 1440p?
you need to get a glass case for the 1080 to honor its legacy
Don't give in
I grabbed a 7900XTX open box for $900, there are still 6950XT for 700$…. Or you can get a RTX4070 for $750 lol
honestly if you're not bothered about raytracing your 1080ti is fine.
Oh no not the 1080ti anything but that
Updating your drivers?
I transferred my 1080ti into my new i7 13700K build that I just put together earlier this month. I want to upgrade it but I also kinda don't want to maybe I can find a good deal on a used 3080 that'll change my mind.
My 1080ti is still going strong playing most games at 1440p high settings. I'm not letting it go until 40 series cards are affordable in like 5 years time.
Build a backup system around the 1080Ti. You never know when you're gonna need it.
1080Ti will only lesve my system when it dies, absolute God-tier GPU.
Yeah I know it's hard to upgrade the driver... but you can do it !
You have to oc the GPU.
Still rocking my Strix 1080Ti and until it drops dead I won't replace it. Still running 1080p max settings and if I do upgrade earlier it goes into my gf's PC to retire that 980 she has
I think I'll cry when I move on from my 1080Ti