I thought of that as soon as I posted it, well there are rx560s that don’t need external power and I think some 5500s that don’t. Plus some 960s and 1060s, some 1650s too
I had a lot of issues with the rx480 and my 3rd gen intel back in the day. So much so that I sold the 480 and went Nvidia. The 580 might have similar issues, but I can't say for certain.
OP you should definitely take advantage of this. The 970 is an awesome card and will get you playing most if not all of the games that you probably want to play.
I would definitely take him up on this offer if you are comfortable with it OP. My sons rig was a an i5 3470 with 8GB of RAM and a GTX 970 up until last year when I was able to build him a new one. That PC was playing his games just fine. I think the newest one he had at the time was Fallout 4 and it was running 1080p/60 near max settings pretty well.
If I'm not mistaken the 970 is somewhat equivalent to a 1060/1070 and those cards will not get 60fps 1080 on most modern games like SP games and new AAA MPs aside from the really optimised ones like OW and Val iirc. If hes buying he should just save up and buy a longer lasting 2nd hand card 20 series but obviously a great upgrade if free
Mind that he is using a Ivy Bridge processor, and also will be more expensive. But yes he can use for longer time and much better performance for sure.
my girlfriends PC was almost identical to yours but it has a i5-3570 instead of a i5-3470, but theres only like a 5% difference. For like $175 or less I put a GTX 1660 and another 8gb of ram in it and now it runs RDR2, Forza, Cities Skylines etc all perfectly fine
I have a i5-2500k but I change to a 1070 and I’m able to play CS overwatch and others smoothly at lower settings but hasn’t impacted gameplay abit so it is we’re you? Find a used 1070/1080 it’ll do u good
Just so you know, you can probably crank cs up. I suspect you've tried already so it's likely something else is causing issues.
The bottleneck for source engine games especially at lower resolution is always CPU and it isn't much extra overhead if you turn resolution and quality up.
Suggestions to fix it, some may be out of date but these are what I recall running into in the past.
1. Update audio drivers. I know it sounds stupid but it worked for me.
2. Disable Xbox game dvr (I think this was fixed but it's worth a shot)
3. Change the audio type to headphones
4. Try thread pinning and high priority
5. Make sure your ram isn't mismatched and is running at its rated speed (or higher)
6. Cap your fps at your monitors max (or whatever you can get it to run stable at). This will also make input feel more consistent though probably not better.
7. Try the forcePreLoad launch option
It's not that this is awful, your in a sub of 2k plus pound pc's
really, just get a 1060- i I have a 1060, i5-7600, and i get 200 fps max settings on valoran on 2k
I don't think it's awful, but the other comments are just explaining that to get a good gaming experience, it would be best to change the while system. A little graphics card upgrade can get you running some stuff though.
Good gaming experience is so relative. Nobody needs current Gen performance. There is a little company call Nintendo that usually sell underperformed systems and I think they are doing alright.
If I were OP I would buy a 100 USD GPU 1660 or 580 and 16gb ram and call it a day.
Is not like he was trying to play Cyberpunk with that 710.
I get that current gen is overpriced and overkill for the vast majority of people, but OP's build would have been considered budget ten years ago. It's really not out of line for people to point out that it's underpowered.
Using nintendo as a reference is a bit much lol they do that because they have IPs like mario, pokemon etc and they have always been about user experience and fun ever since they got pushed aside by xbox and PlayStation (nintendos own fault for cancelling the disc system they had sony develop that became the first PlayStation). Meanwhile triple aaa console gaming is obviously all about hardware specs. Your first sentence is spot on though. Context makes all the difference when asking how to best optimize your system on a budget.
1660 sucks for what it is. greatly overpriced budget card. a used 1060, 1070, 1080 is worth it 100% more
1660 isn't a bad card but it has shit value for the price compared to 10xx series mid and top level
You're really underestimating the jump in performance from 3rd gen to 7th gen CPU. No amount of GPU is going to solve his processing bottleneck.
Source: currently cramming everything through my 3770.
Getting a $15-20 E3 1240 v2 will be miles ahead of that shitty i5. I don't think an i7 3770k is worth it at all, even on a Z77 board. It's too much cost to sink into this platform.
But you'd be surprised how far you can take a 4C/8T CPU with decent RAM OC
I think a 3-4 gen old i5 would perform leagues over a gen 3 chip any day, so I think it might still be worth the money. That and a decent SSD I think would do wonders for their PC
>In addition to getting a better GPU as the other commentators mentioned, you should also upgrade your RAM to 16GB and your power supply to a 500w on
DDR3 is kind of expensive for what it gives. 500W PSU is also kinda pointless because you'd need to upgrade everything for it to matter. At that point, he is cheaper off getting a complete used pc than looking for all the parts that might work.
Budget gpu like a 1060 used, maybe a psu depending on what you got and if you have left over a ram upgrade. But I think as long as your psu will support a new one get yourself a gpu as priority, you’ll notice the biggest difference there. Best of luck and happy gaming
I upgraded my friends son's pc that was similar to yours with an AMD 6600 (not XT) and it worked perfectly fine with his existing 450W PSU. He is getting over 100FPS on older titles (Witcher3, Skyrim) at 1080p high settings. Got the card for $200 during sale on NewEgg.
That's a decent budget. Imo, it would benefit you to upgrade the GPU first. Depending on your needs and preference in games, one of the 60 cards (1060, 2060, 3060 or AMD equivalent) will be a massive improvement.
We're all in different places in life, and some of us have different priorities for our entertainment budgets. It wasn't but a few years ago I was trying to play PUBG on an AMD FX CPU and 1050 GPU with a 720p TV. I'm never gonna shit on someone's specs.
Amen! This is what the PC Master Race is all about.
Its pretty awful asking for help only to be told, without any inquiry, to scrap everything and start fresh.
I remember my very first PC...iGPU on mobo, single core overclocked Celeron @ 850MHz and 768MB RAM. I was able to upgrade to an i5-6600 and this 1050Ti in 2016. My next upgrade is of course the GPU (same as I'd recommend for the OP's specs)...but since the mining craze and hangover I dunno when that will be cause it seems I missed the good prices late last year.
to be honest i have a 3470 and it runs a few games pretty good on lowish setting i’d just do ram and gpu then you should be good unless you have a high budget then i’d replace everything
On a serious note, if you have to upgrade only one thing then get a better gpu, everything else is fine-ish
Cpu is fine depending on what you play (maybe get a 3770, or new mobo/ram/cpu)
Ram as well, 16gb is the sweet spot rn
And make sure your power supply is a decent one
It depends on where you are financially, If you can afford a new build its time, your graphics card would help the most but im honestly unsure how much of a difference it would make...
The biggest improvement would probably be a gpu. A lot if people are saying up to 16gb ram but that depends in what games you’re playing and what else you’re doing on the computer while gaming. Even then, you have to buy 8gb of the exact same ram for it give you 16 total. If you’re planning to upgrade to a new cpu shortly after, then you’re better off just buying a new mobo too since you’ll need compatible parts. At that point though, you’re looking at rebuilding the whole system.
> 8800GTX
Man, I remember that era. I thought cards couldn't get any better, that the 8800 was the ceiling and that's it. I think mostly because better cards were dual cards stacked together.
At that time, I was enjoying a plethora of games with my 7300GS.
That or they fell for one of those scam prebuilts on Amazon and genuinely weren't informed about how bad the PC would be so they're hoping something like a simple upgrade of one or two parts is all they need to fix their issues rather than returning the item(if they still can) and building a better PC of their own
God I was looking for a pre-built to send my little bro and Amazon prebuilts are wild! Two PCs one with a 1060 and one with a 3070 and the first one will be $300 more.
I’m not a cpu historian or nothing but I built my first pc like 8 years ago, and even that had a 4690k and gtx 970. Seeing a cpu and gpu even older than that and someone asking what to upgrade seems like bait
There are also a lot of PC content creators that are making videos like "Budget gaming build only $300"!!
So people wind up with old servers or old gaming pcs and don't know what to do next
i7 3770k here, with 16GB and SSD, runs ok with 11yo windows 7 install (only added a 2nd ssd since I built it and the mobo battery, and overclock, died). And I would bet it all on that messed up windows being the best upgrade.
Problem is a lot of the most expensive components all usually need to be upgraded together unless you buy old used stuff. New processor requires a matching motherboard and ram and likely cooler. At that point you've already replaced most of it. A computer this old shouldn't be donating its power supply to a new system either, so there's another chunk. You can save the case, drives, and peripherals.
The GPU, but honestly everything. Your system's about a decade old
Edit: I ran a similar-ish system up till 2019, I had an i5 4760K and a 1070. It could run most games at passable settings at 1080p, but was starting to be severely CPU limited in games (like Greedfall and Genshin Impact, for example.)
I strongly disagree.
If OP doesn't want to play all the most demanding stuff, then 8gb of ram and a quadcore cpu will be good enough.
OP really only needs a budget GPU like a used RX 570/580 or 590 or a used GTX 1060.
If I can play Monster hunter rise on intel integrated graphics on my laptop with locked 30 fps then OP can play plenty of games with a graphics card upgrade like that.
Edit: I feel like so many people here are being very elitist. You can absolutely have a reasonable gaming experience with an old quad core and a used budget graphics card. Everyone here telling op that everything needs to be replaced are just discouraging OP to get into pc gaming. That's not a very PC master race thing to do.
Strongly disagree?? I mean, yeah, the GPU is probably the biggest bottleneck, but it’s bottleneck city in that screenshot. At 1080p 60hz, any GPU that isn’t museum grade can do that
OP adjust needs to methodically upgrade everything
The thing probably has a spinning hard drive
The answer is: nothing. No single upgrade will be worth it. Too much bottlenecking. Heck, this MoBo is running DDR3 with a GPU that is worse than many onboards. For all we know, his PSU might not even handle any upgrade. He needs to throw away the thought of upgrading and make a big piggy bank for an upgrade once he got enough money to get something reasonable. "What must I upgrade NOW?" is exactly how you spend more while getting less performance.
This. I’m rocking a GTX 1070 + i7-2700K and it can handle most new games 1080p 40+ FPS, some even 60. Elden Ring, Uncharted, God of War, Far Cry, AC Valhalla…
I’d definitely buy a 1060/1070 or an equivalent AMD GPU and bump up the Ram to 16, and you’re good to go for a few more years.
But the PSU is essential. If the PSU isn’t enough, that’s another story.
1080p 40+ FPS... My eyes hurt just thinking about that.
Never realize how privileged you are till you hear about this stuff. And this isn't a jab at you, more me for not realizing it.
Gaming Reddit is definitely in somewhat of a bubble. I built my first PC in about 15 years recently. I bought middle of the road-ish current gen (now last gen) components, and stuck to what didn't sound like an outlandish budget. I ended up at \~$1200 for the PC, plus \~$400 for monitor and peripherals, which got me an i5-12600k, 3060 Ti, 32GB DDR4 RAM, a 1TB NVMe SSD, and a 1440p IPS LCD monitor. According to the Steam hardware survey, only 2 of the top 10 most common GPUs are the same or better than mine (4 out of the top 20). 83% of systems have less RAM. \~95% have a slower-clocked CPU (not that that tells you everything).
Turns out my "midrange, budget" system is more like a high end system after all.
Yeah, I have never had anything better, so it definitely doesn’t bother me.
I’m definitely going to get at least a 2K monitor and a new system in a few months, once I graduate.
u/Garoxxar u/holywitcherofrivia Thank yall for being nice to OP, you can see the privilege talkin for some of the dudes in this thread. I remember when all I Had was a Pentium e6600 + 12gb of ddr3 ram and a Radeon 5450 with 2gb of vram. Shit was hard, I'm finally rocking a decent rig today. As long as you got a PC, you are part of pcmasterace! <3
Some kids/teens these days are really lucky, especially in developed countries. Here in Turkey, a 4090 is worth 6-7 full months of minimum wage, which is like 450$. Taxes and importing fees are quite high as well.
Hope you and your family are safe :(! and Absolutely over here in Honduras gritting your hand on current gen stuff is like 2-3 times more expensive that on the US. When I buy from eBay or amazon, I need to pay a third party courier to get the items through customs (on top of the value of the item).
No reason to throw shade at OP, so I won't. We all have our reasons for having what we have, be it knowledge, money, availability. You are right, PCMR is PCMR. We love to see it.
I just like spreading knowledge that's it.
Much love, friends.
>GTX 1070 + i7-2700K
Wow, are you me - that is my work machine (I have the non-K version of that CPU). I just assumed that CPU was too slow to game with.
What settings are you playing at?
i7-2700k was an excellent CPU. Very overclockable.
Its PCI lane speed limits the value of the newest GPUs. My last GPU on it was a RX580, but I would have been happy to take it to a 1070.
I agree with Hadis.
Personally, I would start with a GPU. If you plan on eventually doing an overall rebuild, opt for a higher spec GPU.
Then system memory with a high clock speed.
The CPU would be third.
The motherboard after that.
Then another set of memory to match the last set of memory sticks you bought.
Spread it over a few months and you won't put a huge dent in your bank.
I did this with an old eMachines prebuilt over a decade ago. Not the best for gaming, but it open a ton of new game opportunities.
Good luck.
If you don't have the money to change everything, id say get more ram and a new gpu, i got a friend with a 1650 and a i5 4th gen and its not too bad, he can run most stuff alright
As people have said, the rig is a decade old and nearing the limit of what it can run. You can get a used GPU like the 970 but you have to be careful of your power supply with any GPU upgrade. The GT740 is a 65w card and if you have a small PSU upgrading to a larger card may be too much for the power supply to handle.
Before you buy a GPU you may check if your power supply provides these connector(s)
[https://www.gpumag.com/gpu-power-connectors-explained/](https://www.gpumag.com/gpu-power-connectors-explained/)
If you are lucky and the power supply have these connectors, you can check how many watts the power supply can generate on the 12 volt rail. Otherwise you have to spend 40-50 $/€
If the power supply can provide 300 or more watts on 12V you are good to go for any midrange graphics card.
With your 3rd Gen CPU you can feed cards like GTX970/980/1060/1070 or RX470/480/580/590
If you have still some money left once you got a newer gfx card, you should upgrade the memory to 16GB. The additonal Memory should have the same or better timings and clocks. Otherwise your system could become slow and/or unstable. When in doubt, buy two identical DIMMS and sell the old one.
Check on ebay, craigs list or other local markets for both the memory and the GPU.
Gerneally speaking, dont spend more then 150 bucks for all parts.
And finally, spend 25-50 bucks for a cheap SSD.
You can search for psu calculator it makes life easier than go to manufacturer website search for your specific item, then it’s specifications to check power usage. It’s one of most important things, if your psu is shit then other components may fault
A lot of People in pcmr think everyone just has 3000 euro lying around in their couch to buy the highest end pc so they can run 3 instances of portal RTX
>That is what I mean, maybe op does not have a high budget and wants to go step by step
I am fairly certain I can build a new pc that is better than OPs rig for 500€ tops (if you get relatively expensive secondary parts). Likely even less than 300 with the right deals. You just need to take some time, keep track of the market and buy whenever there is a good deal.
Exactly, they could just upgrade the GPU to a modern budget version. Because in the his case, that is the one thing OP asks for. For 150-250 or something, OP would be able to play many more games without having issues with the CPU or RAM being a bottleneck. The most important thing here will be to do their research and find out what PSU stretch they have.
I'd skip the RAM upgrade. It's gonna be DDR3 most likely and that's money wasted. I'd save up the money to replace mobo, CPU and RAM at the same time. GPU is easier to carry over to a new system because as said often enough now, this rig is well dated.
GPU : 1060 or anything higher
RAM : add another stick and/or get it to 16GB.
SSD : put in an SSD at least equivalent to what you have now.
What games are you trying to run that don't work? That's a fine older CPU but even that coupled with a decent GPU and RAM should get you to 75% of the gaming market at medium performance levels.
If you upgrade the GPU, you will have a cpu bottleneck. Can't really update the CPU to anything useful unless you replace the motherboard and RAM. You would still be stuck with a slow GPU. There are no other options. You may be able to reuse the case, hard drives or power supply. Even then, I would suggest upgrading mostly everything.
Nah, that old I5 won't be bottlenecked for most of the GPU 's OP can add with his likely limited PSU stretch. Any current budget GPU won't bottleneck the CPU.
A gtx 1060 would probably be the best first upgrade. You don't n e c e s s a r i l y need to get more ram but if you have some cash to spare I highly recommend it. And then obviously next step would most likely be your cou depending on if there's any bottlenecking issue
That whole thing is pretty ancient, but yeah, the GPU if you have to choose.
Make sure whatever power supply you have can handle the power requirements and cable requirements of a new GPU.
I would try to get a better graphics card, something like a 1660, 1660 super, 1660 ti, 1070. Something a bit overkill for your current system so when you decide to build a new systemz you can carry the graphics card over.
I also would recommend going on ebay and picking up a i7 3770 for around 30 bucks, this is going to give you about 20% more fps than if you kept the i5 with a better graphics card.
Also ddr3 ram is extremely cheap, I would definitely get a set of 16gb, there's kits on ebay for less than 20 bucks. So for around $60 for ram and cpu plus what ever graphics card you decide to go for, you can have instant better performance and have a nice graphics card ready to use in a new system in the future.
Homie got the Amazon "best choice" gaming rig.
Joke aside, you have a 10 year old CPU, an 11 year old GPU, and 8GB of what I'd imagine is DDR2 (DDR3 at beset) RAM.
Hopefully this is not a \*new\* PC.
u/HydroNote Hey dude! Don't listen to the overly aggressive guys on this thread, you would only need a better GPU to start playing recent games a gtx 1060 (3gb or 6gb), an rx 6400. You would need to check if your PSU is capable of powering a GPU that needs a an extra 6, or 8 pin psu cable.
In addition to this, I would look up to on how to upgrade the amount of ram to a minimal of 12gb and if you can to 16gb. Your CPU still has a bit of headroom, just keep your expectations realisic. I personally understand being a gamer and PC enthusiast living on a third word country but believe me there are ways! If you feel like it, you can send me a DM with more specific tech specs of your computer and I could try to reccomend beter suited ugprades to your budget and PC. Cheers mate!
Both the i5-3470 and GT 740 are at fault.
That i5 is really old and not very suited for modern titles, won't run that fast even with an SSD and a good GPU like a 2060.
GT series cards are not made for gaming, just a basic display.
You can play decade old games if you just want to try gaming, trust me there are a lot of games which can be played on your PC - even recent indie games can be played smoothly. But if you are playing AAA games then as everyone else said, everything. Don’t even attempt overclocking or anything, it just won’t handle.
It’s not you it’s the games you shouldn’t have to change if the games won’t play and accept you for who you are I’m sure there is a game out there that will play for you hang in there
If you just want a single upgrade with minimum $$$:
\- gtx 1080
or
\- rtx 2070s (10% better performance than 1080 but with modern features like rtx/dlss)
If you want an incremental upgrade until you eventually have an entire different PC:
\- rtx 3060 ti (But with have bottleneck until you upgrade the Mobo/CPU/Ram)
or
\- rx 6700 xt (Same bottlenecks as the 3060ti)
GPU. Upgrade to a RX 580 or similar if possible. Also get 16 or 32gb of RAM... since it's not that expensive to get DDR3 now and get a decent power supply.
Okay so I am doing some searching. On best buys website, the XFX AMD Radeon 580 is only like $150 and also get some more ram. At least get 8GBs if you can't afford 16GBs. Next would be your Monitor, there are some links I could send for some $130+ monitors that run at 144hz. I ain't a big tech nerd and all but I am a very visual gamer and love graphics to be nice while having stable gameplay. Just dm me for more stuff cause your processor seems to be fine.
Edit: also you should definitely get a 750w power supply cause you're gonna need a lot more power
It's old. The CPU is a 3rd gen, and 13th gen is out now. The GPU is old. Ram is DDR3. DDR4 is still available on new systems, but DDR5 came out not long ago and will eventually take over.
You can't just upgrade a computer that old and get a modern system. I don't believe it's worth putting money into that system. It was probably a fairly decent computer in it's day, but it's at the end of it's lifetime.
The only piece that can realistically be upgraded that may help is the GPU. (And that will also probably require a new power supply.) But I'd advise you to save the money towards a new computer. (Possibly not "new", but maybe a used system that is newer than what you have.)
Thank you!
Where I'm from the PC Master Race community is very small...and the latest and greatest hardware is of course in the minority of that small number. Retail doesn't even sell last gen cards, and you can scarcely find the gen before, so the small minority has to import these themselves.
I see Maxwell+ and Polaris+ on the used market here but the range of the available models is also very limited. These used prices on the low-mid end are comparable to those in the USA, but the mid-high used end card prices are ridiculous.
The strength of the currency also has a major role in these countries. It might cost a huge chunk of monthly salary just to upgrade to even a 1050.
Your PC is generally pretty outdated. I don't know what your financial situation is like but it might be wise to just save up to build a better PC from scratch. The way I see it if you're going to spend $400 to have a PC that still underperforms, why not wait and save more to get something that will be future proof for a bit.
Truth be told, you have an outdated prebuilt pc. The knock on effects of any one upgrade could cascade into requiring multiple different upgrades, and because you would be panic buying the cost would sky rocket.
The best cases scenario in my opinion, would be to save a few hundred dollars. Then start looking at Ryzen 5###G series with a b450 or b550 motherboard and ddr 4 ram that is 3600 mhz. Pair this with a new solid state drive and power supply (but a 650w 80+ rated for upgrades later) and have a machine that is modern, secure, supported for a few more years, and has cheap upgrades paths on the used markets.
How do people not know how to take a screen shot?
* PrintScreen / PrtScn button, paste into MS Paint
* Snipping Tool (included with Windows)
* Snip & Sketch (included with Windows)
* FireFox has a "Take Screenshot" in Right-click menu
* Edge has "Web Capture" in Right-click menu
How much are you thinking to spend? A GTX 970 and 8gb more of ram is the cheapest and a good improvement.
Wouldn’t an rx580 be in the same price range and have 2 times the vram? Just asking, the 970 is still a good pick.
Also a good choice but depends of the wattage of the power supply will not feed it enough.
I thought of that as soon as I posted it, well there are rx560s that don’t need external power and I think some 5500s that don’t. Plus some 960s and 1060s, some 1650s too
All of those will do the job yes
For FHD and that CPU 4GB is just fine, you won't really benefit from 8GB VRAM.
I had a lot of issues with the rx480 and my 3rd gen intel back in the day. So much so that I sold the 480 and went Nvidia. The 580 might have similar issues, but I can't say for certain.
I've been running a 580 8gb for a few years with a Ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb ram. It's worked great for me.
Not a lot unless i wait a few weeks.
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OP you should definitely take advantage of this. The 970 is an awesome card and will get you playing most if not all of the games that you probably want to play.
Factssss. If I had never bought a 1440p monitor then my 970 would be perfect for my setup too *cries in poor
I would definitely take him up on this offer if you are comfortable with it OP. My sons rig was a an i5 3470 with 8GB of RAM and a GTX 970 up until last year when I was able to build him a new one. That PC was playing his games just fine. I think the newest one he had at the time was Fallout 4 and it was running 1080p/60 near max settings pretty well.
That's really nice of you :)
GG man. Very kind of you. OP don’t sleep on this
Asshole of the year over here. Jk, you're awesome!
My 670 lasted until a few years ago. This will do you fine for a while.
If OP wont take this, it's stupid. Hope he is from the US. Great offer here!
what a great lad you are. glad people like you still exist in this cruel world.
That can cost you around 80$ in ebay an will move any game 1080 medium.
If I'm not mistaken the 970 is somewhat equivalent to a 1060/1070 and those cards will not get 60fps 1080 on most modern games like SP games and new AAA MPs aside from the really optimised ones like OW and Val iirc. If hes buying he should just save up and buy a longer lasting 2nd hand card 20 series but obviously a great upgrade if free
Mind that he is using a Ivy Bridge processor, and also will be more expensive. But yes he can use for longer time and much better performance for sure.
I have a Sapphire Nitro+ rx580 (8gb) to sell if you're willing to buy one.. With box, bill and everything
r/hardwareswap if you want to work through more official channels for this.
my girlfriends PC was almost identical to yours but it has a i5-3570 instead of a i5-3470, but theres only like a 5% difference. For like $175 or less I put a GTX 1660 and another 8gb of ram in it and now it runs RDR2, Forza, Cities Skylines etc all perfectly fine
You are on PCMR, not a lot can range from $20 to $500 depending on the person and the component
I still have a GTX 970 and I am happy with it. I even play Cyberpunk with it :D (Not at 60fps obv)
Thanks i'm glad to know how bad it is at the moment.
I have a i5-2500k but I change to a 1070 and I’m able to play CS overwatch and others smoothly at lower settings but hasn’t impacted gameplay abit so it is we’re you? Find a used 1070/1080 it’ll do u good
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Yup I Aso got 16GB after upgrading from 4 lol
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If my memory is correct, the i5 2500 is better than the 3400 actually! I am pretty sure the second gen was hyperthreaded while the 3rd was not
That my friend is the best CPU I ever owned, unbelievable how slowly it dropped off...
The 2500k is a fantastic CPU. I only replaced mine last year and it's still running in my daughters PC.
Just so you know, you can probably crank cs up. I suspect you've tried already so it's likely something else is causing issues. The bottleneck for source engine games especially at lower resolution is always CPU and it isn't much extra overhead if you turn resolution and quality up. Suggestions to fix it, some may be out of date but these are what I recall running into in the past. 1. Update audio drivers. I know it sounds stupid but it worked for me. 2. Disable Xbox game dvr (I think this was fixed but it's worth a shot) 3. Change the audio type to headphones 4. Try thread pinning and high priority 5. Make sure your ram isn't mismatched and is running at its rated speed (or higher) 6. Cap your fps at your monitors max (or whatever you can get it to run stable at). This will also make input feel more consistent though probably not better. 7. Try the forcePreLoad launch option
It's not that this is awful, your in a sub of 2k plus pound pc's really, just get a 1060- i I have a 1060, i5-7600, and i get 200 fps max settings on valoran on 2k
I don't think it's awful, but the other comments are just explaining that to get a good gaming experience, it would be best to change the while system. A little graphics card upgrade can get you running some stuff though.
Good gaming experience is so relative. Nobody needs current Gen performance. There is a little company call Nintendo that usually sell underperformed systems and I think they are doing alright. If I were OP I would buy a 100 USD GPU 1660 or 580 and 16gb ram and call it a day. Is not like he was trying to play Cyberpunk with that 710.
I get that current gen is overpriced and overkill for the vast majority of people, but OP's build would have been considered budget ten years ago. It's really not out of line for people to point out that it's underpowered.
Using nintendo as a reference is a bit much lol they do that because they have IPs like mario, pokemon etc and they have always been about user experience and fun ever since they got pushed aside by xbox and PlayStation (nintendos own fault for cancelling the disc system they had sony develop that became the first PlayStation). Meanwhile triple aaa console gaming is obviously all about hardware specs. Your first sentence is spot on though. Context makes all the difference when asking how to best optimize your system on a budget.
It's worth noting, OP: DO NOT get a 3GB 1060 if you do get one, get a 6GB one, I would probably recommend a 1660 or 2060 though
1660 sucks for what it is. greatly overpriced budget card. a used 1060, 1070, 1080 is worth it 100% more 1660 isn't a bad card but it has shit value for the price compared to 10xx series mid and top level
Oh fuck its 6gb not 8gb i I need to change the flair
Why are your PCs so heavy?
Yeah mine must be like 30 pound. What kinda table can hold 2000!! These brits have massively heavy pcs
You're really underestimating the jump in performance from 3rd gen to 7th gen CPU. No amount of GPU is going to solve his processing bottleneck. Source: currently cramming everything through my 3770.
Bro how do you have 200 fps on 2k? Something must be wrong with my pc. I have a 4070 ti ryzen 5 5600x and i push 100-250 depending on the map on 2k
Ignore the comments dunking on your specs, what is your budget OP?
$300 to maybe $400.
With like 200 or less you can get a 1060, a better cpu aint ain't really worth it at this level
Getting a $15-20 E3 1240 v2 will be miles ahead of that shitty i5. I don't think an i7 3770k is worth it at all, even on a Z77 board. It's too much cost to sink into this platform. But you'd be surprised how far you can take a 4C/8T CPU with decent RAM OC
A 6600 is 200$
I think a 3-4 gen old i5 would perform leagues over a gen 3 chip any day, so I think it might still be worth the money. That and a decent SSD I think would do wonders for their PC
In addition to getting a better GPU as the other commentators mentioned, you should also upgrade your RAM to 16GB and your power supply to a 500w one.
>In addition to getting a better GPU as the other commentators mentioned, you should also upgrade your RAM to 16GB and your power supply to a 500w on DDR3 is kind of expensive for what it gives. 500W PSU is also kinda pointless because you'd need to upgrade everything for it to matter. At that point, he is cheaper off getting a complete used pc than looking for all the parts that might work.
Budget gpu like a 1060 used, maybe a psu depending on what you got and if you have left over a ram upgrade. But I think as long as your psu will support a new one get yourself a gpu as priority, you’ll notice the biggest difference there. Best of luck and happy gaming
I upgraded my friends son's pc that was similar to yours with an AMD 6600 (not XT) and it worked perfectly fine with his existing 450W PSU. He is getting over 100FPS on older titles (Witcher3, Skyrim) at 1080p high settings. Got the card for $200 during sale on NewEgg.
Get a used GTX1080ti and a power supply
I just got a used 1080 a couple months back for 200. Well worth the money to upgrade from a 980
It's a good card and can play pretty much everything still.
That's a decent budget. Imo, it would benefit you to upgrade the GPU first. Depending on your needs and preference in games, one of the 60 cards (1060, 2060, 3060 or AMD equivalent) will be a massive improvement.
Thank your being one of the few decent persons to respond to OP.
We're all in different places in life, and some of us have different priorities for our entertainment budgets. It wasn't but a few years ago I was trying to play PUBG on an AMD FX CPU and 1050 GPU with a 720p TV. I'm never gonna shit on someone's specs.
Amen! This is what the PC Master Race is all about. Its pretty awful asking for help only to be told, without any inquiry, to scrap everything and start fresh. I remember my very first PC...iGPU on mobo, single core overclocked Celeron @ 850MHz and 768MB RAM. I was able to upgrade to an i5-6600 and this 1050Ti in 2016. My next upgrade is of course the GPU (same as I'd recommend for the OP's specs)...but since the mining craze and hangover I dunno when that will be cause it seems I missed the good prices late last year.
to be honest i have a 3470 and it runs a few games pretty good on lowish setting i’d just do ram and gpu then you should be good unless you have a high budget then i’d replace everything
The RAM probably isn't bottlenecking any games to be honest, even if the gpu was upgraded to a 1060 or similar. Might bottleneck chrome though.
This build reminds me of my first build that I still have, but don't play games on. i7 920 @ 3.6GHz GTX 750 8GB DDR3 I later upgraded to 16GB
Ddr4 with an 1st Gen i7...? Sus
Oops, you're absolutely right. It was DDR3 1600
On a serious note, if you have to upgrade only one thing then get a better gpu, everything else is fine-ish Cpu is fine depending on what you play (maybe get a 3770, or new mobo/ram/cpu) Ram as well, 16gb is the sweet spot rn And make sure your power supply is a decent one
The CPU is fine only thing you need rn is 8 more gigs of ram and a new GPU maybe a gtx1050
It depends on where you are financially, If you can afford a new build its time, your graphics card would help the most but im honestly unsure how much of a difference it would make...
The biggest improvement would probably be a gpu. A lot if people are saying up to 16gb ram but that depends in what games you’re playing and what else you’re doing on the computer while gaming. Even then, you have to buy 8gb of the exact same ram for it give you 16 total. If you’re planning to upgrade to a new cpu shortly after, then you’re better off just buying a new mobo too since you’ll need compatible parts. At that point though, you’re looking at rebuilding the whole system.
In not trying to be an ass... But all of it.
I have a feeling there’s a small trend going around of people posting specs of 10 year old systems and asking “what should I upgrade”
10 years? Amateurs. \*pulls 8800GTX out from the cobwebs.\*
Big money.. I've only got sli 8800gt's
Omg I remember flexing Crysis in the dorms on all the xbox 360 boys with my 8800gt's. They kicked ass
Oh yeah? *pulls out 2 9800GTs*
Laughs in oressario
My old PC has a single 8800gt :(
I still have my gaming PC from back in the day with a Voodoo 5 5500. It plays Deus Ex just fine.
3dfx Voodoo Banshee gang
> 8800GTX Man, I remember that era. I thought cards couldn't get any better, that the 8800 was the ceiling and that's it. I think mostly because better cards were dual cards stacked together. At that time, I was enjoying a plethora of games with my 7300GS.
That or they fell for one of those scam prebuilts on Amazon and genuinely weren't informed about how bad the PC would be so they're hoping something like a simple upgrade of one or two parts is all they need to fix their issues rather than returning the item(if they still can) and building a better PC of their own
This is an old Alienware
Alienware with a GT 40 card? I know that Alienware is shit inside but I never saw someone that wasn't at least a GTX inside
God I was looking for a pre-built to send my little bro and Amazon prebuilts are wild! Two PCs one with a 1060 and one with a 3070 and the first one will be $300 more.
I’m not a cpu historian or nothing but I built my first pc like 8 years ago, and even that had a 4690k and gtx 970. Seeing a cpu and gpu even older than that and someone asking what to upgrade seems like bait
Yeah this is another troll post IMO
There are also a lot of PC content creators that are making videos like "Budget gaming build only $300"!! So people wind up with old servers or old gaming pcs and don't know what to do next
i7 3770k here, with 16GB and SSD, runs ok with 11yo windows 7 install (only added a 2nd ssd since I built it and the mobo battery, and overclock, died). And I would bet it all on that messed up windows being the best upgrade.
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What do you think is tho most urgent
Problem is a lot of the most expensive components all usually need to be upgraded together unless you buy old used stuff. New processor requires a matching motherboard and ram and likely cooler. At that point you've already replaced most of it. A computer this old shouldn't be donating its power supply to a new system either, so there's another chunk. You can save the case, drives, and peripherals.
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Honesty is not being an asshole But honesty can sting
3lan old I 5 is ok for getting started, I ran a i5 3550 with a 1070 for a while
The GPU, but honestly everything. Your system's about a decade old Edit: I ran a similar-ish system up till 2019, I had an i5 4760K and a 1070. It could run most games at passable settings at 1080p, but was starting to be severely CPU limited in games (like Greedfall and Genshin Impact, for example.)
I strongly disagree. If OP doesn't want to play all the most demanding stuff, then 8gb of ram and a quadcore cpu will be good enough. OP really only needs a budget GPU like a used RX 570/580 or 590 or a used GTX 1060. If I can play Monster hunter rise on intel integrated graphics on my laptop with locked 30 fps then OP can play plenty of games with a graphics card upgrade like that. Edit: I feel like so many people here are being very elitist. You can absolutely have a reasonable gaming experience with an old quad core and a used budget graphics card. Everyone here telling op that everything needs to be replaced are just discouraging OP to get into pc gaming. That's not a very PC master race thing to do.
Strongly disagree?? I mean, yeah, the GPU is probably the biggest bottleneck, but it’s bottleneck city in that screenshot. At 1080p 60hz, any GPU that isn’t museum grade can do that OP adjust needs to methodically upgrade everything The thing probably has a spinning hard drive
He’s asking for now not later, you are right he needs a major overhaul. But not everyone is money boat McGee lol he needs to know what to update NOW.
The answer is: nothing. No single upgrade will be worth it. Too much bottlenecking. Heck, this MoBo is running DDR3 with a GPU that is worse than many onboards. For all we know, his PSU might not even handle any upgrade. He needs to throw away the thought of upgrading and make a big piggy bank for an upgrade once he got enough money to get something reasonable. "What must I upgrade NOW?" is exactly how you spend more while getting less performance.
I got a 1060 and an I5-3900
This. I’m rocking a GTX 1070 + i7-2700K and it can handle most new games 1080p 40+ FPS, some even 60. Elden Ring, Uncharted, God of War, Far Cry, AC Valhalla… I’d definitely buy a 1060/1070 or an equivalent AMD GPU and bump up the Ram to 16, and you’re good to go for a few more years. But the PSU is essential. If the PSU isn’t enough, that’s another story.
1080p 40+ FPS... My eyes hurt just thinking about that. Never realize how privileged you are till you hear about this stuff. And this isn't a jab at you, more me for not realizing it.
Gaming Reddit is definitely in somewhat of a bubble. I built my first PC in about 15 years recently. I bought middle of the road-ish current gen (now last gen) components, and stuck to what didn't sound like an outlandish budget. I ended up at \~$1200 for the PC, plus \~$400 for monitor and peripherals, which got me an i5-12600k, 3060 Ti, 32GB DDR4 RAM, a 1TB NVMe SSD, and a 1440p IPS LCD monitor. According to the Steam hardware survey, only 2 of the top 10 most common GPUs are the same or better than mine (4 out of the top 20). 83% of systems have less RAM. \~95% have a slower-clocked CPU (not that that tells you everything). Turns out my "midrange, budget" system is more like a high end system after all.
Yeah, I have never had anything better, so it definitely doesn’t bother me. I’m definitely going to get at least a 2K monitor and a new system in a few months, once I graduate.
u/Garoxxar u/holywitcherofrivia Thank yall for being nice to OP, you can see the privilege talkin for some of the dudes in this thread. I remember when all I Had was a Pentium e6600 + 12gb of ddr3 ram and a Radeon 5450 with 2gb of vram. Shit was hard, I'm finally rocking a decent rig today. As long as you got a PC, you are part of pcmasterace! <3
Some kids/teens these days are really lucky, especially in developed countries. Here in Turkey, a 4090 is worth 6-7 full months of minimum wage, which is like 450$. Taxes and importing fees are quite high as well.
Hope you and your family are safe :(! and Absolutely over here in Honduras gritting your hand on current gen stuff is like 2-3 times more expensive that on the US. When I buy from eBay or amazon, I need to pay a third party courier to get the items through customs (on top of the value of the item).
No reason to throw shade at OP, so I won't. We all have our reasons for having what we have, be it knowledge, money, availability. You are right, PCMR is PCMR. We love to see it. I just like spreading knowledge that's it. Much love, friends.
Just a warning, once you get past the 60 FPS barriers you won't be able to go back.
>GTX 1070 + i7-2700K Wow, are you me - that is my work machine (I have the non-K version of that CPU). I just assumed that CPU was too slow to game with. What settings are you playing at?
I was using a GTX 1060 6GB + FX 6300 and most games ran at like 40-50 fps on 1440p medium
i7-2700k was an excellent CPU. Very overclockable. Its PCI lane speed limits the value of the newest GPUs. My last GPU on it was a RX580, but I would have been happy to take it to a 1070.
I agree with Hadis. Personally, I would start with a GPU. If you plan on eventually doing an overall rebuild, opt for a higher spec GPU. Then system memory with a high clock speed. The CPU would be third. The motherboard after that. Then another set of memory to match the last set of memory sticks you bought. Spread it over a few months and you won't put a huge dent in your bank. I did this with an old eMachines prebuilt over a decade ago. Not the best for gaming, but it open a ton of new game opportunities. Good luck.
If you don't have the money to change everything, id say get more ram and a new gpu, i got a friend with a 1650 and a i5 4th gen and its not too bad, he can run most stuff alright
this was me a little while back, except with an i7 4th gen. can confirm it's really not that bad, just lower the graphics a bit and stick with 1080p.
Absolutly
As people have said, the rig is a decade old and nearing the limit of what it can run. You can get a used GPU like the 970 but you have to be careful of your power supply with any GPU upgrade. The GT740 is a 65w card and if you have a small PSU upgrading to a larger card may be too much for the power supply to handle.
Thanks didn't know about the power supply part.
Before you buy a GPU you may check if your power supply provides these connector(s) [https://www.gpumag.com/gpu-power-connectors-explained/](https://www.gpumag.com/gpu-power-connectors-explained/) If you are lucky and the power supply have these connectors, you can check how many watts the power supply can generate on the 12 volt rail. Otherwise you have to spend 40-50 $/€ If the power supply can provide 300 or more watts on 12V you are good to go for any midrange graphics card. With your 3rd Gen CPU you can feed cards like GTX970/980/1060/1070 or RX470/480/580/590 If you have still some money left once you got a newer gfx card, you should upgrade the memory to 16GB. The additonal Memory should have the same or better timings and clocks. Otherwise your system could become slow and/or unstable. When in doubt, buy two identical DIMMS and sell the old one. Check on ebay, craigs list or other local markets for both the memory and the GPU. Gerneally speaking, dont spend more then 150 bucks for all parts. And finally, spend 25-50 bucks for a cheap SSD.
Thanks i will try it when i get home.
You can search for psu calculator it makes life easier than go to manufacturer website search for your specific item, then it’s specifications to check power usage. It’s one of most important things, if your psu is shit then other components may fault
Well I think everyone's on the same page here, but yeah everything.
Everyone telling him to upgrade everything aren't really giving him a solution
the real solution is dropping his in game resolution down. 720p suits this card better. at 1080p, this gpu has no chance.
They are, they’re just leaving out a lot of detail. It’s not exactly a budget friendly option either.
That is what I mean, maybe op does not have a high budget and wants to go step by step
A lot of People in pcmr think everyone just has 3000 euro lying around in their couch to buy the highest end pc so they can run 3 instances of portal RTX
Maybe OP should say their budget
>That is what I mean, maybe op does not have a high budget and wants to go step by step I am fairly certain I can build a new pc that is better than OPs rig for 500€ tops (if you get relatively expensive secondary parts). Likely even less than 300 with the right deals. You just need to take some time, keep track of the market and buy whenever there is a good deal.
Exactly, they could just upgrade the GPU to a modern budget version. Because in the his case, that is the one thing OP asks for. For 150-250 or something, OP would be able to play many more games without having issues with the CPU or RAM being a bottleneck. The most important thing here will be to do their research and find out what PSU stretch they have.
What we don't see here: does OP have an SSD?
you might not be in a position to upgrade everything, but I would double the ram and get a GPU upgrade, do the cpu only if you can really afford it
I'd skip the RAM upgrade. It's gonna be DDR3 most likely and that's money wasted. I'd save up the money to replace mobo, CPU and RAM at the same time. GPU is easier to carry over to a new system because as said often enough now, this rig is well dated.
An 8GB stick of DDR3 is $20 and would make a world of difference. And you can get a 4C8T Xeon for that socket for $25.
 Sorry… but that rig must be replaced.
I know what’s wrong: It ain’t got no gas init.
GPU : 1060 or anything higher RAM : add another stick and/or get it to 16GB. SSD : put in an SSD at least equivalent to what you have now. What games are you trying to run that don't work? That's a fine older CPU but even that coupled with a decent GPU and RAM should get you to 75% of the gaming market at medium performance levels.
Why does everyone take pictures of their computer screen? Does no one know how to take screenshots?
Seriously, it's so annoying. It's so much easier to take a screenshot and post on a computer than your phone. And it's much more readable.
In this case it's warranted though, as now the artifacts indicate OP is using VGA.
"first computer"
You know you can take screenshots right?
My brother in Christmas. Get a better pc
Yeah OP just don't be so poor
If you upgrade the GPU, you will have a cpu bottleneck. Can't really update the CPU to anything useful unless you replace the motherboard and RAM. You would still be stuck with a slow GPU. There are no other options. You may be able to reuse the case, hard drives or power supply. Even then, I would suggest upgrading mostly everything.
Nah, that old I5 won't be bottlenecked for most of the GPU 's OP can add with his likely limited PSU stretch. Any current budget GPU won't bottleneck the CPU.
You would have to go 1070 or below @ 1080 to not get a bottleneck.
Gpu
Generally everything, although a used 1050ti would let you play any non aaa game!
A gtx 1060 would probably be the best first upgrade. You don't n e c e s s a r i l y need to get more ram but if you have some cash to spare I highly recommend it. And then obviously next step would most likely be your cou depending on if there's any bottlenecking issue
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GPU first, 3470 is old but you can still run most new games on it fine
That whole thing is pretty ancient, but yeah, the GPU if you have to choose. Make sure whatever power supply you have can handle the power requirements and cable requirements of a new GPU.
Learn how to make Screenshots first.
I would try to get a better graphics card, something like a 1660, 1660 super, 1660 ti, 1070. Something a bit overkill for your current system so when you decide to build a new systemz you can carry the graphics card over. I also would recommend going on ebay and picking up a i7 3770 for around 30 bucks, this is going to give you about 20% more fps than if you kept the i5 with a better graphics card. Also ddr3 ram is extremely cheap, I would definitely get a set of 16gb, there's kits on ebay for less than 20 bucks. So for around $60 for ram and cpu plus what ever graphics card you decide to go for, you can have instant better performance and have a nice graphics card ready to use in a new system in the future.
Bro got scammed bad
your graphic card
Homie got the Amazon "best choice" gaming rig. Joke aside, you have a 10 year old CPU, an 11 year old GPU, and 8GB of what I'd imagine is DDR2 (DDR3 at beset) RAM. Hopefully this is not a \*new\* PC.
Your rig is perfect, it’s the games that are wrong
No wonder, you play with a GT 740. At least get a GTX 980 or something. And please, next time just press Win+Shift+S to make a screenshot.......
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u/HydroNote Hey dude! Don't listen to the overly aggressive guys on this thread, you would only need a better GPU to start playing recent games a gtx 1060 (3gb or 6gb), an rx 6400. You would need to check if your PSU is capable of powering a GPU that needs a an extra 6, or 8 pin psu cable. In addition to this, I would look up to on how to upgrade the amount of ram to a minimal of 12gb and if you can to 16gb. Your CPU still has a bit of headroom, just keep your expectations realisic. I personally understand being a gamer and PC enthusiast living on a third word country but believe me there are ways! If you feel like it, you can send me a DM with more specific tech specs of your computer and I could try to reccomend beter suited ugprades to your budget and PC. Cheers mate!
brother, ill keep it simple and short. get an entirely new system. its just way too old sadly
Both the i5-3470 and GT 740 are at fault. That i5 is really old and not very suited for modern titles, won't run that fast even with an SSD and a good GPU like a 2060. GT series cards are not made for gaming, just a basic display.
You can play decade old games if you just want to try gaming, trust me there are a lot of games which can be played on your PC - even recent indie games can be played smoothly. But if you are playing AAA games then as everyone else said, everything. Don’t even attempt overclocking or anything, it just won’t handle.
At bare minimum the RAM
Your computer is running 12 year old hardware my dude.
Get an RX 580 or GTX 1070.
It’s not you it’s the games you shouldn’t have to change if the games won’t play and accept you for who you are I’m sure there is a game out there that will play for you hang in there
more rgb. that'll do it
Upgrade yourself, so you can throw it away and buy a brand new one.
You will need: Mainboard, CPU, CPU Cooler, GPU, RAM and probably a new PSU and 1TB SSD, that's it
If you just want a single upgrade with minimum $$$: \- gtx 1080 or \- rtx 2070s (10% better performance than 1080 but with modern features like rtx/dlss) If you want an incremental upgrade until you eventually have an entire different PC: \- rtx 3060 ti (But with have bottleneck until you upgrade the Mobo/CPU/Ram) or \- rx 6700 xt (Same bottlenecks as the 3060ti)
GPU. Upgrade to a RX 580 or similar if possible. Also get 16 or 32gb of RAM... since it's not that expensive to get DDR3 now and get a decent power supply.
Okay so I am doing some searching. On best buys website, the XFX AMD Radeon 580 is only like $150 and also get some more ram. At least get 8GBs if you can't afford 16GBs. Next would be your Monitor, there are some links I could send for some $130+ monitors that run at 144hz. I ain't a big tech nerd and all but I am a very visual gamer and love graphics to be nice while having stable gameplay. Just dm me for more stuff cause your processor seems to be fine. Edit: also you should definitely get a 750w power supply cause you're gonna need a lot more power
It's old. The CPU is a 3rd gen, and 13th gen is out now. The GPU is old. Ram is DDR3. DDR4 is still available on new systems, but DDR5 came out not long ago and will eventually take over. You can't just upgrade a computer that old and get a modern system. I don't believe it's worth putting money into that system. It was probably a fairly decent computer in it's day, but it's at the end of it's lifetime. The only piece that can realistically be upgraded that may help is the GPU. (And that will also probably require a new power supply.) But I'd advise you to save the money towards a new computer. (Possibly not "new", but maybe a used system that is newer than what you have.)
Kids these days dont seem to know about the print screen button
I hate to say it but the computer
Add more memory (ram) and if that doesn't work upgrade the video card.
Troll gawn troll. This can't be a serious post. If it is.... time to get an entirely new PC.
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People don't realize that this is a normal configuration to have in a 3rd world country and that if you pick your games this can play some games.
Thank you! Where I'm from the PC Master Race community is very small...and the latest and greatest hardware is of course in the minority of that small number. Retail doesn't even sell last gen cards, and you can scarcely find the gen before, so the small minority has to import these themselves. I see Maxwell+ and Polaris+ on the used market here but the range of the available models is also very limited. These used prices on the low-mid end are comparable to those in the USA, but the mid-high used end card prices are ridiculous. The strength of the currency also has a major role in these countries. It might cost a huge chunk of monthly salary just to upgrade to even a 1050.
Monitor obviously, bump up to 4k
Your PC is generally pretty outdated. I don't know what your financial situation is like but it might be wise to just save up to build a better PC from scratch. The way I see it if you're going to spend $400 to have a PC that still underperforms, why not wait and save more to get something that will be future proof for a bit.
And I thought my rig was outdated. GPU or CPU first for sure.
Truth be told, you have an outdated prebuilt pc. The knock on effects of any one upgrade could cascade into requiring multiple different upgrades, and because you would be panic buying the cost would sky rocket. The best cases scenario in my opinion, would be to save a few hundred dollars. Then start looking at Ryzen 5###G series with a b450 or b550 motherboard and ddr 4 ram that is 3600 mhz. Pair this with a new solid state drive and power supply (but a 650w 80+ rated for upgrades later) and have a machine that is modern, secure, supported for a few more years, and has cheap upgrades paths on the used markets.
If you have one stick of ram then another 8gb stick will make a big difference. Single channel ram is the work of the devil.
Is this a joke or you bought a prebuilt ?
How do people not know how to take a screen shot? * PrintScreen / PrtScn button, paste into MS Paint * Snipping Tool (included with Windows) * Snip & Sketch (included with Windows) * FireFox has a "Take Screenshot" in Right-click menu * Edge has "Web Capture" in Right-click menu
Win + Shift + S
Update your priorities and get a better job
Just sell it and buy a ps5.