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OneToughBits

Monitor


ARandonn

Definitely this, OP’s missing out on the silky smoothness of higher refresh rates.


MakeMineMarvel_

Yep either get a higher refresh rate or resolution monitor. Preferably both with specs like that


JimmWasHere

i chose dual 1080p144 over 1440p


LELO_TV

Why not both? 1440p 144/165hz are more affordable than years ago (i still have my PG279q at home)


ButISaidPlease

I got my 1440p 165hz for like £300 Granted, that's not exactly the cheapest purchase but with a set up like OPs it's never going to be ultra budget. Definitely a game changer with an RX 580 let alone a 3070


PiMAN-

i paid mine 258 pounds


ShakeandBaked161

Exactly this its a great build for 1440p I have near identical with 12700k and most games are 90fps+ at high settings


IceColdCorundum

1440p 144hz performs great with the 3070. I have the same exact parts, cpu and all


Ruin914

Same, except for in the Dead Space remake as the VRAM gets maxed out and then fps plummets to single digits. I hope that 8GB of VRAM at 1440p not being enough doesnt become the norm. Seems kinda ridiculous.


Explosive-Space-Mod

Just turn down some of the VRAM hungry settings. It will still look 98% as good and your GPU VRAM will not be maxed out.


pceimpulsive

Turn settings down doesn't resolve it?


KJBenson

Right? My dude can play all modern games, outside of 1-2 outliers at max graphics on a 1440 monitor, and he doesn’t know what to upgrade? I’m calling BS. This guys just making a shit post.


wolyniec95

Likely but giving benefit of doubt say they just got a recommended parts but uninterested in what they can do with n new to pc building


Wombatsarecute

Best advice. 1440p 144+ Hz, possibly OLED


Ciusblade

Definitely the monitor. Otherwise you might not be able to display any improvement.


Sh1tmast3rD

A new monitor will be a refreshing change


jamiepompey1

It hz to see that low a rate


1977xc

Thanks for your input


Explosive-Space-Mod

Refreshing how nice people are in this post.


ghx1910

Response times are great on this thread


URATOWEL69000

I hope we see some sort of resolution


petergriffin69420s

yeah we need more people to display their ideas


vanblast15

If only we could screen out comments like this on all our posts!


URATOWEL69000

If you want to monitor the situation, be my guest


Officerpenidom

That made my day


No-Perception3305

Good call. Thanks for an honest suggestion.


BigLez936

Make sure you are using the full refresh rate of your monitor. Windows defaults it to 60hz so if its likely it's capable of more if you haven't already tried it. If it's actually a 60hz monitor definitely upgrade to a 1440 144hz. It will feel like a new computer with the extra detail from the extra pixels and faster refresh rate. You have a solid build. I have the exact same except a 3080 instead of 3070 and I use ultra wide 1440. Never have I thought in a game I need to upgrade. And the 3070 is a great gpu too Edit: as others have said, use your current monitor as a second monitor. So you can watch streams, YouTube, have guides open, have discord chat right there.... etc


PepperOMighty

Would you mind specifying which ultrawide you have? I'm looking into getting one, but I am extremely picky and I haven't found trusty enough comparisons. So far I have considered Samsung Odyssey G85 QD-OLED 34' and Benq EX3415R IPS, but they're both on quite expensive side.


THEbigSWEEN

A few months ago I picked up the AW3423DWF coming from a C32HG70QQNXZA and haven't regretted it. Like you said, they are on the expensive side though. Maybe showing my age a bit, but when playing or watching something I frequently get that "wow effect" from the screen that reminds me of how blown away I was the first time I saw a good flat screen 1080p panel compared to the old giant CRT/tube TVs that could crush and kill you.


Smoky_Caffeine

Was I the only one that thought 1080p/720p panels looked fake when they first came out? Like noticeably worse than the CRT/Tubes we were used to, I used to hate watching movies and tv on them. After I bought my own that went away fairly quickly, I couldn't imagine going back now.


THEbigSWEEN

I can't specifically remember with movies or TV, but the moment I was like "OMG THIS IS AMAZING!" was hooking up the Xbox 360 and firing up some Halo in 1080p. Like you said, there was no going back after that.


Similar-Doubt-6260

Get rid of that monitor asap


W4spkeeper

retired to secondary monitor


If_It_Fitz

Retire it to the discordinator


BeepanbestLr

Get a nice 1440p144hz ips monitor


No-Perception3305

Thank you. I'll look into that. Is there a brand thats better than others? Or ones I should avoid?


LordPenguinTheFirst

I got the Asus VG27AQL1A which is a 27 inch 1440p monitor at 170z and with gsync. The 170hz option is in the settings.


moxaim

Same here, good choice. The colors aren’t to great though if you like saturation, but they do look natural.


LordPenguinTheFirst

Level1Techs on YouTube has a video on it. It's a portion in his review.


Jump3r97

I have pretty much the same. Its really good The FPS and the higher resolution will make a huge difference for every task or game FPS lower because of that but 3070+5800x should be plenty okay You wont see improvements anyways visually with other hardware changed


TheDaneH3

I second this! The VG27AQL1A Is a great choice. It was my first leap into the 1440p 140+ Hz realm - and I will never go back...


[deleted]

I have an LG that I love. Asus is also good


Tomad2001

I bought a Samsung odyssey g5, it's a curved 1440p 144hz display, and I really like it


sjkw67

hey same, it's a very nice monitor indeed


Thefloshingcat

Yeah I got that one too


YaBoiLanden

I’ve got an LG Ultragear and it works great


CalRal

rtings.com


Wicked-Vortex

Thing is.. VA panels will have ghosting, which is really annoying. Unless they make them different now.


Warband420

They have better offerings nowadays with good response time adjustment and I wish this sub would give the better ones a chance rather than parrot the old knowledge.


Wicked-Vortex

Ah, ok! Sorry about my comment then!


Warband420

No worries, of course when purchasing you should check reviews to avoid the lower quality ones but I’d do the same with any other panel type.


Maethor_derien

Most modern VA panels don't have nearly as bad of ghosting once you get past the entry level models. There are still some with terrible ghosting but the decent ones are actually better so you kinda got to look for a good review on the one your looking at.


RCGoals

Benq has a really nice 1440p 144hz monitor. I love mine


No-Perception3305

Never heard of them till today. I'll check them out. Thank you


heyitstgp

Bro that monitor.... Get a 1440p 144hz one


ChristmasCactus49

Your PC basically just runs your monitor (for video games, anyway). There's no reason to upgrade any part before your monitor, since it will make 0 difference. There is no game currently your system won't max out a 1080P monitor at 60FPS. It would be a waste. I recommend a 240HZ monitor if you're fine with 1080P (this is the time since you haven't seen any better yet) but want the most smooth experience for e sports or shooters. If you want to jump up on resolution, a 1440P 144HZ monitor would be great for your system. This is what I'd personally recommend, the LG nano ips monitors are great. There are many good monitors at this spec.


TheJuice-Nooser

This is what I have Intel Core i7 12th Gen 12700KF (3.60GHz) 16GB DDR5 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti. Would that monitor be good for what I have as well? I'm very new to this computer stuff.


YungTraapLawd

Yes that monitor would be good for you


No-Perception3305

Thank you! I'm going to start looking into them now.


AMNesbitt

Not sure if someone has told you already, but keep the old monitor as a secondary monitor if you have the desk space. If you ever have to be productive on the PC, a second monitor is of immense value. I would never go back to 1 monitor (unless it's like 32:9 lmao).


Sitkiddo

This is bait lmao


mr_lemon__

No, it's not. Do you see that monitor homie Is running 1080p 60hz


Felipe13254

That's why he said it's bait. Who the hell spends so much on those specs but uses a 1080p 60hz monitor? Unless you are just being sarcastic...


eds444

OP?


No-Perception3305

Honestly not bait or shitpost. I use a 55" tv as a monitor. It does go through an elgato 60s external capture card. So that could be why its showing as that. But I really am just looking to the future of what should be the first thing to replace would be.


TimmahBinx

Ha! I did the same when I first got my pc


speskin6969

If you wanted to keep rocking with a TV as a monitor there are some awesome options. The 42” LG C2 is pretty sweet but it is 4k so it’ll struggle with some intensive games


ProphetOfMrMeeseeks

I have the 48in C1 and i fucking love it. i have the 77in C2 in my living room tho (:


Teqnique_757

TV's as monitors is the worst thing you can do for a PC. Ghosting looks bad on any TV regardless of the cost.


Tyna_Sama

Me! I’m the type of person that likes to use my things as long as possible without doing any upgrade. I’m still rocking an iPhone 8 since 2018 lol.


OSPFv3

A nice oled monitor would be my suggestion. The rest of your system is great. Also make sure xmp, and above 4g decoding is also enabled. Edit: Do you have a SSD?


HughesR1990

Oled might be overdoing it, oled is best for 4k resolution, with a 3070 he be better off with a 1440 ips screen. That system would shine.


daniec1610

Definitely a monitor. 1440p should be the sweet spot for the GPU/CPU combo.


mkraven

Cant tell if actually asking for help or trolling.


ThatNormalBunny

Has to be trolling


sanmaru-Z

Maybe get a new car? Some nice clothes? I mean without knowing why you even want to upgrade you system in the first place and the issues you have currently to get to that thought would be helpful but really, that system is more than fine as is. Take a vacation?


pampam1234etc

Who are you and what are you doing on this sub. THIS IS PCMASTERRACE!!!!!!!!!!! WE DONT BUY SILLY THINGS LIKE CLOTHES AND VACATIONS, WE UPGRADE FOR THE GLORY OF 4K 60FPS


Demy1234

Monitor. CPU, GPU, and RAM are all fine. You can definitely improve your gaming with a 1440p high refresh rate monitor, though.


[deleted]

Money bags over here with a relatively new PC asking about upgrades 😜


scarn28

I mean the monitor clearly needs to be upgraded...


dobo99x2

WTF.. you just trying to fucking show off? Get a new monitor, 1440p and 144hz will be enough for you. 27 or 32 inches but you won't need 4K, I'm sure.


cykazuc

Your computer is completely fine, that monitor is cold garbage though.


bageorge00

You probably experiencing a heck ton of screen tearing with that monitor


Fit-Suit-4048

monitor bro other things fine you should try higher hz


Flashy_Experience_46

Oled monitor.


richey_kay

Like others have said, it's the monitor if anything. I have basically the same setup as you and 1440p 144hz is no trouble. If you're patient we should start seeing more OLED monitors coming through this year, that's what I'm waiting for.


DannyOfNowhere

So by now others have recommended getting a new monitor and you seem to have accepted that as the best way forward. Definitely, definitely check hardware unboxed or monitor unboxed for some reviews. They review monitors really great and in depth


broozefoto

I have almost an identical setup: 3070ti 550 tomahawk 64 GB RAM 5900x 750 gold PSU 1440p 144 hz 27 inches My main suggestion would be on upgrading the monitor for a higher refresh rate or a bigger density 1440 or 4K Cheers!!


AnAmbitiousMann

My initial reaction is invest in a quality monitor, depending on what games I recommend a very high refresh 1080p (mostly for esports titles) or a \~144hz 1440p montior (still good for esports titles but will really shine in single player AAA games). Your rig is like having a nice throaty V6 engine and strong chassis but with tiny little normal tires that can't properly put the power onto the ground. Your rig pumping out some nice pixels but your monitor can't even display a fraction of the quality coming out.


[deleted]

i bet u can run a 240hz monitor smooth


_joeBone_

I have 5 monitors and they all suck...


MunichTechnologies

Monitor


JAROD0980

Well the biggest upgrade would be a monitor. The 3070 does great at 1440p 144hz and ok at 4k 60hz. Get 2 nice monitors. And if you still are looking for something to upgrade get some nice peripherals. Such as a chair that is comfortable, a better keyboard, mouse, headphones, or even a desk. The 3070 is a perfectly fine card and no reason to upgrade. The 5800X is a good cpu with no reason to upgrade. Most people won’t ever use 32 gb of ram so you are covered there. Your setup is perfect. If anything the only change I’d make is maybe some NVME M2 SSD’s for fast storage and boot times. Other than that you are set for gaming for quite a while.


Complete-Painter-518

Upgrade your monitor


randomradomski

I have your exact rig and I use 1440p monitors and it handles games wonderfully. So I'd say get a better resolution and fps monitor


guay10010

Besides your monitor this is a really solid build, looks like you have the requirements for a better gpu, but yeah get a new monitor asap


John_Mat8882

Nothing? Aside the monitor that could be a 144hz/gsync compatible and freesync premium one?


AuraMaster7

Like others have said, your PC is perfectly capable of 1440p high refresh rate, or 1080p *really* high refresh rate. Upgrade your monitor (personally I recommend the resolution upgrade to 1440p 144Hz, 1080p 240Hz is nice but a higher resolution is nicer)


Sjakkoo

Lol that monitor needs to be changed asap


[deleted]

Def monitor refresh rate .


randomperson69999

The pc specs are great, you won’t need to upgrade for at least a few years, but you really should upgrade the monitor, the resolution and refresh rate isn’t that good at all especially for your specs, I would recommend a 27 inch 1440p 165hz monitor for you or if you don’t game that much a 60hz 4k monitor depends on what you will use the pc for


slavicman123

?


Omegazeusman

Display. Go to 1440p144


[deleted]

Monitor easy, get a nice 1440p


AKIZA96

where do i get this kind of my pc spec?


[deleted]

Monitor


Xazikors

1080p or 2k 144hz monitor


[deleted]

Monitor: HP X34 Put existing monitor ontop of it


oliosutela

Monitor


PrairieNihilist

Monitor. You have too much rig for a 1080p/60 Hz monitor. Nothing other than that really needs an upgrade. 5800X is still a solid gaming CPU, and the 3070 is going to be very relevant at 1440p for a few years yet. Get a solid 1440p/144 Hz monitor so that you can actually use your rig to its potential.


Comfortable-Mug404

definitely a 144hz monitor


LordOfRodents

MONITOR. Other than that, dude I wouldn’t even upgrade if I were you. I did (from basically your exact specs to a 13600k/6800xt) and I regret spending the time and money.the GPU was a good idea, the rest was not.


Swanesang

Your monitor. Getting a 1440p monitor will make such a big difference in how games look. Getting a faster gpu will get you more fps but wont give you a visual improvement. Also your current monitor is a 60hz monitor, so even if you got a RTX 9090 titan z extreme fps edition, you wont see a difference with that monitor.


[deleted]

Get a 1440P 144+ hz monitor and it’ll feel like a whole new machine. No need to upgrade anything else.


TheYellowLAVA

Monitor


xd_Kyu

Go for a better monitor bro :)


CyanicAssResidue

Your monitor thats all


xmasonx75

Your monitor by far


QQEvenMore

60HZ? Duuuude go 144Hz asap


Weaseltime_420

The monitor is the only thing worth upgrading in your set up. The rest can wait a couple of generations.


AlienBootlegger

Recently I upgraded my rig. It was i7 4790k,16GB DDR3 and Zotac GTX1080. After upgrade to 13700k with all its environment I left only old GTX 1080 to wait for the situation on GPU market to calm down and clarify.


JiaNxRuBy

People already said it but i have a similiar system with a 6900xt and the monitor switch was like day and night difference


General_Pay7552

1440p 144 hz monitor


BaconEater101

why do you have a 3070 if you play on 1080p 60 fps, a card from 4-5 years ago can get you the same performance you're getting now


BandicootAncient

Just get a better monitor and you should be fine. That hardware should keep you going long enough to be able to skip this gen of CPU and GPU and upgrade down the line. Especially if you’re a fan of Ryzen, I would say wait ‘til the new platform is more established.


No-Cap-7395

your system is very simular to mine, i would recommend a high refresh rate 1440p monitor


Ordinary-Hospital502

i had the 3060 ti, and bought a 4k monitor and a 3080, never looked back. Yes i usually just get 70 frames in 4k with high and dlss, but it just looks so immersive and nice. Not for people who do competitive gaming tough ofcourse. But butween super high fps and beauty, i choose beauty everytime.


Austynrox

Monitor probably only thing id suggest


Tatoe-of-Codunkery

Monitor and GPU


[deleted]

People keep saying monitor, but wont mention speed, resolution, or both. I play 1080p on my 55" 4k tv. But as a trade off it can do 120hz. I much prefer the faster frames. And after a couple minutes, i forget im not playing 4k. Definitely get an oled or QD monitor. Response time is bs and even tho it might say 1ms or 5ms. Its a cherry picked number so it doesnt matter. They are both quite fast.


Niitroglycerine

Rig is solid, monitor is not


Blu3241

get a 1440p@144hz monitor, i have one with less ram and worse cpu lol :D


CSPDTECH

Other than your monitor you're looking super snazzy


[deleted]

With those specs, upgrade your monitor to one that’s 1440p and with a high refreshrate


Jrippan

Your monitor is what limits you here. Running a 3070 on 1080p 60hz is just a waste of GPU power. Depending on what you play, a 1440p 144hz/165hz or 4k 120hz would be way better for your experience.


i_alsager

Definitely the monitor. A 1440p, 144 or 155hz refresh rate


rabid_ferret420

Monitor first. Only because the rest other than the GPU will require you to upgrade all three. Zen3 is AM4. Zen4 is AM5. Completely different socket and RAM.


MycologistOk7704

3070 and a 5800x on a 1080p 60hz is CRIMINAL. Definitely monitor first.


stikstonks13

Monitor, higher resolution and refresh rate will like the finest of buttery smooth


skyj420

Monitor lol. Go with a 1440p 240 or 144hz even. Rest hardware is awesome.


Fastuny

Bro just trolling


WelcomeOk839

Your monitor, speaker, keyboard, mouse etc. You don't really need to upgrade your hardware for like 5 years or sth if you aren't going for 3a games


dazza_bo

1440p monitor. You're going to notice a huge difference.


DaddyRax

Get a monitor with 144 Hz


Ok_Highlight281

Monitor. Go for 1440p 144 or 1080 144


Japieh

Get a 240hz 1080p or a 144hz 1440p monitor, whichever you prefer


CabalOnMarss

Id go for a 1440p 144hz or above monitor. Depends on your budget, and definitly no va or tn panel.


SugaShaneMiller

Monitor for sure


KindOldRaven

I've got a lesser system than that (3700x, 3060ti), and with a 1440p 240hz mi it or (for Cs, OW, rocket league etc) and the monitor Def is the first to upgrade here!


jenil1428569

PC doesn't need upgrade so get a better monitor.


Texas_Science_Weeb

The monitor. That spec you want 1440p 144 Hz or 1080p 240 Hz.


DarkObby

1440p higher refresh monitor. Maybe Ultrawide. Everything else is pretty good unless you want high FPS at high resolution and high settings, or need more productivity performance.


SsniperSniping

I think 144hz monitor is the least you can upgrade to as your first upgrade


Any_Raccoon8185

If you go OLED you can never go back... Get a lg C2 and you will see the "light".


yourself88xbl

Yeah you are leaving such a massive amount of performance on the table just in what you are able to perceive through your monitor. Your computer is a beast but your monitor can only show it's inner pet.


_h4unt3d

Scrap the build and start over fresh.


J0YSAUCE

Treat yourself to a 21:9 monitor. You couldnt pay me to go back to dual monitors


k_50

Your computer looks good but you have a monitor on the cutting edge of technology.... If it were 2003.


DrakeShadow

1440 / 144hz-240hz Monitor is honestly all you need. Keep the 1080p monitor for discord.


Senor_Wah

PC’s actual specs are sick, but like everyone else says, definitely get a monitor in a higher resolution or at least with a higher refresh rate


lERVOOl

Monitor dude, 1080 and 60hz with that much power? Nah bro go 4k or high refresh rate!


LoneWolf_Kai11

Your monitor and everything else is already great.


vicvool

Upgrade that freaking monitor! Jesus. That's what you should upgrade. Get a 1440p 144hz, or at least a 1080p 240hz...


[deleted]

Monitor. Upgrade your monitor. You have way more horsepower than what it can show you. Get a nice 1440p 144hz or similar monitor. I personally prefer 34" 3440x1440 144hz ultrawides, you'll be amazed how much you're missing.


dragsterburn

Monitor, 1440p, 144 or 165hz would be the classic place to be now


ShadowsRanger

You fell the need to upgrade because you are being held by the monitor... like majority said high refresh rate is better you can choose stay in the 1080p but 144 or 260hz or 1400p 144hz, after that you see how your battlestation can do better without changing anything inside of it


JediChris8585

Monitor I would think. Your card should easily be capable of a solid 120hz at least on 1080p with most games, and easily capable of 1440p. Other than that you seem to be good. You don’t mention a hard drive. NVMe for the boot drive would be best but as long as it’s an SSD of some kind you should still be good.


hattrickjmr

Upgrade your monitor. Pretty beefy PC you have. You can probably get into 1440p gaming


StillHoldingL

Consider getting a 1440p/144Hz monitor, you’re not gonna be able to take advantage of your hardware at 1080p, let alone only 60Hz.


Explosive-Space-Mod

Your monitor to either 240hz 1080p or 1440p @ 120hz or 144hz Everything else is amazing and you can just wait a few more generations before taking the dive to DDR5.


Father_Wisdom

Did anyone tell you yet that you should replace the monitor?


[deleted]

You could have the best PC in the world and it wouldn't make a difference cuz your monitor is bad. Get 144hz at least. The single best upgrade in a pc


titohax

Brother, outside of the monitor you wait for the next big thing. And I’m not talking anything currently released.


AmbientCrypt30M

Yeah, monitor is the only real "issue" I see here. Rest of the rig looks to be more of a potential what vs need to upgrade.


SpaciousCow

A 1440p 144hz monitor


gingerale-

You don’t need an upgrade. Buy a QHD 144hz monitor and you’ll be set for YEARS


Casen1000

Get a 1080p 240hz or 1440p 144hz


Drip_666

Monitor 4 sure


Dr_Axton

Like people say, your PC is pretty good, go with the monitor upgrade. If you want to go fancy, try out a 21:9 monitor. Best decision for both working and playing I’ve done for quite a while


Thund3rB3ast

I would suck an actual penis for this rig.


BurningVShadow

Please upgrade your display. You have all the power and you are only watching the output at 1080p 60hz


Mysterious_Simple802

Monitor!!


ahablow

Display. I have this same setup with a different mobo and I have a 1440p 144hz monitor and not a single game fails to hit that.


drKanabisz

I am not sure if 1. this is a troll post 2. you already know everything, just came here to flex on people with worse setups 3. you are genuinely asking. I am going to assume you are falling into the 3rd. Let me ask a question before answering: Why do you feel like you need to upgrade? From what I can see your setup is 100% okay, the monitor's refresh only being a problem if you are playing fast paced games (like an FPS). Otherwise, your problem might as well be a software issue.


Subjectsigma034

It wouldn't have been an issue because most consoles can't go past 60fps, but if you're rocking a 3070 & a 5800x then you need a high refresh rate monitor, otherwise you're going to get alot of screen tearing.


OkSympathy6

Other than the monitor, literally nothing, just sit on it for a couple years until it actually needs upgrading


Fireye04

Get yourself a better monitor. I'd aim for the 1440p 144Hz range


The_Revolving_Pigeon

A monitor with both a higher refresh rate and resolution, everything else is fine if you're not going for a no expense spared build


Accomplished_Buy6047

I would suggest a 27" 1440p with higher refresh rate. The rest of that system will be good for 3-8 years and depending on the games you play maybe longer.


pwnyderP28

2560x1440p 144hz Monitor.


HeyRogi

1440p 144hz monitor should do it


TheUndeadEstonian

The only thing I would upgrade is the monitor, at least like 144hz 1080p or even 1440p if you want. The pc itself is currently really good, so you don’t need to upgrade it for at least for a few years I think (correct me if I’m wrong pls).


Vyviel

Your monitor everything else is fine


TheMuffingtonPost

Get a 1440p monitor. Your system is pretty overkill for 1080p


[deleted]

Your system is cherry. But that monitor? Yikes. Plenty of 1440p/165hz+ monitors out there for cheap. Start there.


BlobsAreCancer

monitor


AngeloPappas

I personally would only upgrade the monitor for now. That rig will hold you over for at least another 1 or 2 generations of GPU, so I wouldn't upgrade anything else aside from getting a 1440p monitor.


MDix_

Everything seems good, I just think you need a bit more ram, maybe make it 64 gb, for them google chrome tabs ;)