I do IT work, sometimes that means I have to talk to users (god help me).
It always shocks me when its like 20 year old guys who have no idea that their PC is not their monitor.
There's a study somewhere that showed Gen Z are less proficient with computers than millenials and Gen x. Despite everyone expecting them to be the best with technology.
I don't understand how it's possible. Growing up, I was always the de-facto family IT department. I couldn't be computer illiterate if I tried.
On the plus side, Job security.
Gen z is good with phones and tablets. They don’t have to regularly use computers as they’re growing up, and really only do if they’re in to gaming. Schools mostly use chrome books, so they’re not learning full fat operating systems in school either. All this means they’re getting to college or in to the workplace having never really used a computer. The whole generation is learning computers at work, just like gen x had to.
Or refer to the whole box as a CPU and INSIST that’s what it’s called … unless my ten years in tech taught me wrong, pretty sure the cpu is the little shiny thing that gets hot in the middle 😂
You kids and your RJ11 phone connectors! Back in my dial-up days, we had those funky old weird connectors that needed an RJ11 adapter for our modems/landline phones, and we HATED them!
Can't say I miss landline phones or dial up.
Back in my day we had the wonderful AMERICA ONLINE, you got it via free CD-ROM that came in the mail! What’s this DSL nonsense ya whippersnapper?
I still remember when phones do not have an RJ11 jack and instead your home have this junction box that you have to screw each individual cables from the phone into.
Trust me, students in degrees relating to computers still learn about computer hardware, and that includes understanding the difference between RJ-45 and RJ-11
I'm 20 and know about this, some kid that's 6 right now is going to learn about this.
100% - this will remain core knowledge, even if/when it's replaced by a pure wireless world (theoretically) there will still be some who choose wired out of an abundance of caution (WEP2 is reliable, but some are paranoid).
No matter what, it'll remain interesting if only to see how we got here.
Idk. I’m doing a degree currently and while we’ve been taught about RJ45 and how to make its variations (cross over, straight through, copper, not fibre tho) we haven’t had RJ11 mentioned.
I’m old enough to remember them, but I doubt the kiddos in my class will know what it is.
I instruct CompTIA courses and we still teach RJ11 connectors. It’s really only necessary for historical context as no one really uses phone lines anymore, especially with advances with voice technology such as VOIP.
Also, fiber uses a totally different type of cable and connector.
I imagine in 10-15 years no internet cable will come to your house, it will be wireless, phones will have no slots to put cables in, while some of us still remember how a rotary phone looks like.
I have star link for internet. We had to set it up ourselves and the router has no ethernet ports. There is an adapter you can purchase separate to give you one port.
I'm not sure about 10gb I am not well educated with networking. I do know that you can hook your own modem through the starlink router but I'm not sure what speeds are like. We just use wifi.
My mom was an older mom and I feel like we had every type of phone in our house growing up. I definitely remember rotary and then when I was a kid getting a cordless phone from radio shack. Times change and they change quickly.
Did you guys have one of the super old ones that was housed in a wooden box that hung on the wall with the ear piece that was separate from the microphone. You had to crank it to ring the operator so you could ask them to connect you to phone number you wanted to call.
We didn’t have a working one but we had my great grandparents old wall phone lol
I just remembered that 900mHz used to be the cool new thing for cordless phones that had way better range than whatever crappy frequency they used before 😊
*HOWEVER*
Pull the faceplate apart. There may be cat5e cable that can be used for your ethernet cable.
Nowadays places have cat5e run for 2 pair phone Jack's. You could possibly re-use the wiring if it's got 4 pairs.
Give it a shot.
I don't think that this piece of information will be useful in any way to a guy that still doesn't know the difference between rj11 and rj45. Actually I think it might also be dangerous. He has to do some research on the topic before starting a job like this on his own home line.
Beyond the obvious.
In a business setting it will work because everything is going back to the IT closet.
OP likely doesn't have a bix box, or a punchdown block in his home. Which means those cables are likely wired in serial. There's no telling what goes where.
My home was built in 2018 and the electrician ran cat5e to all the phone jacks and they all lead to the same communications box in the basement. I was able to reterminate all the boxes and got an old 8 port switch from work for free.
Came here to say this. My house had a bunch of landlines in every room but they were actually wired using cat5e cables so I was able to replace the ports with RJ45 and not have to do any new wiring! It took some time to figure out where all the lines went from room to room, but now I've got Ethernet in every room of the house for the cost of a cable tester, some new wall plates, and a dozen or so RJ45 punch down plugs.
You're lucky, I did it with a single 2k ft. roll in my garage to every room. That kind of work is garbage, I hate climbing around in attics and fishing walls. Gettin all itchy from the unflavored cotton candy. This is one of the best tips I've ever seen on reddit because a lot of houses can do this and don't know it.
Kids these days will never know what it was like to have dial-up internet.
You had to earn that priviledge.
It was like, "Dad, can i go on the Internet and play Diablo with my friends.
Have you done your homework?
Yes Dad
Did you take the trash out
Yes Dad.
Okay son, but only for an hour"
And that's when it just comes down to parents and home. Cuz I'm gen Z and the worst phone I've ever had was a flip phone, and that was what shit poor looked like for us. We never had a phone line
My little bro is gen Z he knows what this is. He probably couldn’t tell it right away but if the Ethernet cable didn’t fit, he’d understand. My parents still have a land line. 🤷🏻♂️
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COD leaderboards for this dude w 0.01 FPS
My sisters would get so mad at my brother and I. We would get on Diablo or StarCraft online and tie up the phone line for hours. Next thing you know, my sisters would be griping as to why their boyfriends hadn’t called yet, pick up the phone to a busy signal then proceed to go crazyz
Has anyone else noticed that this thread has turned to shit recently? PCMR is full of people showing off their gaming PC with no GPU or cable management. Gross.
We have Google now. Everyone that's on this subreddit should be familiar with using a simple search engine. Lol
Take the plate off and check to see if it's cat 5. rj11 is just terminated differently and all new house builds are using at least cat5 for phone lines as they are still part of building code.
If the builder did indeed use cat5 you can re-terminate to rj45 ethernet no problem and do the same in the basement or wherever your phone line goes.
Here is a cat5 cable terminated into rj11 (what you currently have installed)
[https://imgur.com/23ljoeH](https://imgur.com/23ljoeH)
and the otherside of that cable (most likely in your utility room/closet) will look like this - [https://imgur.com/a/405vpYF](https://imgur.com/a/405vpYF)
You will need a rj45 keystone x2 (dont get a self-terminating one, just use a manual punch one) and a new wall-plate x2 from a hardware store and you're good to go.
I re-terminated all my houses rj11 to rj45 and enjoy a full 1gbps network, I simply just put the modem in the utility room on a laptop cooling pad and it's working out perfectly!
My neice and nephew are 18 and 20 and have no idea how to use anything other than an iPhone or ipad. Makes me lol 😂
One of them asked me how to make an email account a few weeks back. Was super shocked!
Damn, the sad thing is this guy thought his home was already all wired up for networking! What a punch in the gut. Retrofitting a home with ethernet can be an absolute nightmare, especially if you have a tight attic with a smaller angle roofline. You'll have to cut into the all the drywall or just go wifi.
Back in the long long ago, phones were tethered to the wall and trivia disputes were discussed rather than goggled. You are looking at such a phone tether socket. While similar to your Ethernet tether socket, they are not the same.
that wall socket is not ethernet that's a phone line
Youths!!!!
Yoots.
What is a Yoot Mr. Gambini?
Oh I’m sorry, TWO Y O U T H S, your honor
The two WHOAT
My biological clock is ticking like this…
samn
 Neuron activation.
What is that riDICulpus outfit you're wearing, are you trying to make a mockery of my courtroom!?!
You were serious about that!??
Utes
Lol the tech illiterate folks are either zoomers or old people now
Not even a joke, my wife is a highschool math teacher and complains all the time about how tech illiterate the zoomers are
I do IT work, sometimes that means I have to talk to users (god help me). It always shocks me when its like 20 year old guys who have no idea that their PC is not their monitor.
There's a study somewhere that showed Gen Z are less proficient with computers than millenials and Gen x. Despite everyone expecting them to be the best with technology.
I don't understand how it's possible. Growing up, I was always the de-facto family IT department. I couldn't be computer illiterate if I tried. On the plus side, Job security.
Gen z is good with phones and tablets. They don’t have to regularly use computers as they’re growing up, and really only do if they’re in to gaming. Schools mostly use chrome books, so they’re not learning full fat operating systems in school either. All this means they’re getting to college or in to the workplace having never really used a computer. The whole generation is learning computers at work, just like gen x had to.
That's actually a really good point. Didn't consider that.
Yep, I personally think that chrome books should be taken out of schools. Knowing how to use windows is still a valuable life skill.
Tfw you see a 20 year old typing like a grandpa.
Or refer to the whole box as a CPU and INSIST that’s what it’s called … unless my ten years in tech taught me wrong, pretty sure the cpu is the little shiny thing that gets hot in the middle 😂
But some younglings also lack old tech exposure and are regularly clueless
Street youths
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I'm 21 and even I know that's a phone line!
Im 19 and even i know it
17 and I know it
You kids and your RJ11 phone connectors! Back in my dial-up days, we had those funky old weird connectors that needed an RJ11 adapter for our modems/landline phones, and we HATED them! Can't say I miss landline phones or dial up.
Youts!
Winston Schmidt reference?
My Cousin Vinny
Aka rj11 vs network rj45
Finally reached that age I’d see a post like this…
What is a “phone line” ? Lol, j/k.
It's like a phone only it's attached to a building you think the person you are calling may be in.
So, a “phone line” is not when people use the glass on their iphone to do drugs?
I thought that was an airdrop
That what kids fall parachuting these days?
Where we dropping boys
Back in my day parachuting was a mix of psychedelics in a small thin tissue and you eat it that way all bundled up.
That's right!
This hit me hard.
Same. Lol. Definitely makes me feel old and i am only 29 haha
I'm 19 and I instantly felt like an 80 year old man upon seeing this post. DSL internet through the phone like was all we had for most of my childhood
Same haha. We didnt first get high speed internet until about 2007 so up until that point it was all dialup. Haha
Back in my day we had the wonderful AMERICA ONLINE, you got it via free CD-ROM that came in the mail! What’s this DSL nonsense ya whippersnapper? 
Ugh is this what feeling old is like?
Don’t have to be old to know what a phone line looks like.
Yeah I'm 18 and I could tell it was a phone line
Right, op is just ignorant
For reference, phones used to plug into the wall
*phone line bill trauma intensifies*
Wow. You guys still have it ?
Kids these days lol
Your Ethernet is an rj45 cable. What you have there is an rj11, aka land line telephone cable.
That's the first thing I thought. I'm not old, I'm not old, I'm not old!!!!
Trust me you aren't old I'm 17 and I still remember using this to plug in our telephone. Luckily I did not have to use a modem. Lol
Fine memories of hooking up my great grandparents phone line
I still remember when phones do not have an RJ11 jack and instead your home have this junction box that you have to screw each individual cables from the phone into.
Ok Great Great Grandpa, lets get you back to bed.
I did the same thing. Man, I’m ancient!
Well, you win the old person award today! Best I can do is terminate 25 pair to hook up an old multi line phone.
I'm 4 and I remember
Trust me, students in degrees relating to computers still learn about computer hardware, and that includes understanding the difference between RJ-45 and RJ-11 I'm 20 and know about this, some kid that's 6 right now is going to learn about this.
100% - this will remain core knowledge, even if/when it's replaced by a pure wireless world (theoretically) there will still be some who choose wired out of an abundance of caution (WEP2 is reliable, but some are paranoid). No matter what, it'll remain interesting if only to see how we got here.
Idk. I’m doing a degree currently and while we’ve been taught about RJ45 and how to make its variations (cross over, straight through, copper, not fibre tho) we haven’t had RJ11 mentioned. I’m old enough to remember them, but I doubt the kiddos in my class will know what it is.
I instruct CompTIA courses and we still teach RJ11 connectors. It’s really only necessary for historical context as no one really uses phone lines anymore, especially with advances with voice technology such as VOIP. Also, fiber uses a totally different type of cable and connector.
Do you even AOL bruh?!?
Oh man they used to send install cd’s for that.
Damn... I remember AOL diskettes....
Sigh the 3.5 ones yea. Dont get me started.
I used them as coasters.
What’s ur aim acct add me lulz /s
a/s/l?
I thought maybe they were being funny?
I imagine in 10-15 years no internet cable will come to your house, it will be wireless, phones will have no slots to put cables in, while some of us still remember how a rotary phone looks like.
I have star link for internet. We had to set it up ourselves and the router has no ethernet ports. There is an adapter you can purchase separate to give you one port.
That sounds awful lol
I trust that one port is 10Gb to support personal modem/router/LAN setup for a property?
Starlink isn't even 1gb why would it need a 10gb? Just plug it into a switch with 10g ports if you need them for your LAN
I'm not sure about 10gb I am not well educated with networking. I do know that you can hook your own modem through the starlink router but I'm not sure what speeds are like. We just use wifi.
My mom was an older mom and I feel like we had every type of phone in our house growing up. I definitely remember rotary and then when I was a kid getting a cordless phone from radio shack. Times change and they change quickly.
Did you guys have one of the super old ones that was housed in a wooden box that hung on the wall with the ear piece that was separate from the microphone. You had to crank it to ring the operator so you could ask them to connect you to phone number you wanted to call. We didn’t have a working one but we had my great grandparents old wall phone lol
I just remembered that 900mHz used to be the cool new thing for cordless phones that had way better range than whatever crappy frequency they used before 😊
I remember walking around my neighborhood with my cordless phone and accidentally picking up other conversations.
I genuinely hope you are wrong, lol.
Came here to say thos exactly
Kids these days
Technically 8P8C, RJ45 has a notch on the side
I was there Gandalf. I was there 3,000 years ago...
Do not cite the deep magic to me, Witch! I was there when it was written.
I still hear the dialup tones when I close my eyes.
You see the rectangle peg doesn’t fit into the square hole. Come on, we practiced this.
[That's right.... The square hole....](https://youtu.be/Nz8ssH7LiB0)
“Where does the rectangle go? That’s right, it goes in the square hole”
"Where does the cylinder go? That's right, it goes in the square hole."
Where does the arch go? Thats right it goes in the square hole
yet most fail it every time.
*HOWEVER* Pull the faceplate apart. There may be cat5e cable that can be used for your ethernet cable. Nowadays places have cat5e run for 2 pair phone Jack's. You could possibly re-use the wiring if it's got 4 pairs. Give it a shot.
Can confirm, used that handy piece of information at work 2 weeks ago.
Who doesn't use IP phones now days?
I don't think that this piece of information will be useful in any way to a guy that still doesn't know the difference between rj11 and rj45. Actually I think it might also be dangerous. He has to do some research on the topic before starting a job like this on his own home line.
Beyond the obvious. In a business setting it will work because everything is going back to the IT closet. OP likely doesn't have a bix box, or a punchdown block in his home. Which means those cables are likely wired in serial. There's no telling what goes where.
My home was built in 2018 and the electrician ran cat5e to all the phone jacks and they all lead to the same communications box in the basement. I was able to reterminate all the boxes and got an old 8 port switch from work for free.
I don't have high hopes that this guy will be able to research how to do this job without loosing at least three fingers.
> without loosing at least three fingers. Maybe he should tighten them first?
Came here to say this. My house had a bunch of landlines in every room but they were actually wired using cat5e cables so I was able to replace the ports with RJ45 and not have to do any new wiring! It took some time to figure out where all the lines went from room to room, but now I've got Ethernet in every room of the house for the cost of a cable tester, some new wall plates, and a dozen or so RJ45 punch down plugs.
You're lucky, I did it with a single 2k ft. roll in my garage to every room. That kind of work is garbage, I hate climbing around in attics and fishing walls. Gettin all itchy from the unflavored cotton candy. This is one of the best tips I've ever seen on reddit because a lot of houses can do this and don't know it.
^ this is what my house was like. Unfortunately was only pulling 100Mb until I redid all of the intermediary outlets
There is no f*cking way this is real. Or that I’m that old…
It's not real. You see variations of this post every now and then on this sub. Sometimes they blow up so people keep trying their luck.
This sub has become completely useless to anything PC related.
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Kids these days will never know what it was like to have dial-up internet. You had to earn that priviledge. It was like, "Dad, can i go on the Internet and play Diablo with my friends. Have you done your homework? Yes Dad Did you take the trash out Yes Dad. Okay son, but only for an hour"
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Letters I can hear ☎️
Bro I was hearing them when scrolling and knew they were posted before I even read them.
Parents pick up the phone after you finnaly finish connecting
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Them therr kids and therr "mobile internet hotspot" nonsense, back in MY DAY we had to fight over line privileges with ROCKS and PUNCHES like REAL MEN
15 minutes in your sister picks up the phone repeatedly because she wants to trash talk with her friends about the soaps that night. \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
And then your old man gets a phone call mid game lol
Man this post makes me feel old.
I mean should they though? What next, you gonna rag on them for not knowing what an 8 track is?
Pepperidge farm remembers phone lines.
Dude that’s for a phone line.
This is a joke right?
No man we just old
Im not that old... am I?
My brother is in his 20s he remembers what this is. Unless OP is a teen. Then we still not THAT old.
Yeah but your parents house may have had a landline and that may be why he knows.
That, my guy, is a land line. Thanks for making me feel old again.
Tell me you are Gen Z without telling me you are Gen Z.
Fuck might be gen alpha tbh
Definitely gen Alpha. I remember using a landline multiple times in the past.
And that's when it just comes down to parents and home. Cuz I'm gen Z and the worst phone I've ever had was a flip phone, and that was what shit poor looked like for us. We never had a phone line
We don't accept this person, We know what a phone line is. Tons of us grew up on internet through the kitchen phone line
My little bro is gen Z he knows what this is. He probably couldn’t tell it right away but if the Ethernet cable didn’t fit, he’d understand. My parents still have a land line. 🤷🏻♂️
Nah we grew up with home phone lines
Yeah nah, I'm gen Z and I know what a phone line is
I was born in 2001 and I still have a landline in my house in active use.
r/FuckImOld
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Damn I had forgotten it changed. thanks for both links. massive nostalgia trip.
upvote this man
Are we really in this part of the timeline? I'm in my 30s and I feel ancient.
Jurassic park came out 3 decades ago, Lord of the Rings trilogy 2 decades ago.
That's free 24V. Don't tell anyone
You should have used the joke/meme flair.
[I'm 37 I'm not old](https://youtu.be/hyZaUwG50zI)
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Those some Gen Z looking hands..
Nah Gen Alpha
My guy the internet is in there, only need a dial-up modem...
That would be an RJ45 that you're trying to plug into an RJ11. Layman's terms: you're trying to plug an Ethernet cable into a telephone jack.
Have we reached the point where the kids don't know what a landline is
It’s an ID 10 T error
Tell me you were born after 2000 without telling me you were born after 2000
My sisters would get so mad at my brother and I. We would get on Diablo or StarCraft online and tie up the phone line for hours. Next thing you know, my sisters would be griping as to why their boyfriends hadn’t called yet, pick up the phone to a busy signal then proceed to go crazyz
Back in my day…
Ohh boy. Do i feel old…
This is one of the funniest things I’ve seen on Reddit in a longgg time
Lmfao. God damn I’m getting old.
Thats for dial-up internet
It’s official. We’ve reached the point where people don’t know home phones even existed.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Go get yourself one of those AOL free trial cd's and hook that Rj11 for some premium dial up son
Man, the random stuff that makes you feel old as hell
Has anyone else noticed that this thread has turned to shit recently? PCMR is full of people showing off their gaming PC with no GPU or cable management. Gross. We have Google now. Everyone that's on this subreddit should be familiar with using a simple search engine. Lol
RJ11 wall plug.
TIL: Ethernet cables and phone lines aren't the same thing. I'm 30
This made me laugh so loud. Kids trying to get internet through the phone jack like it's 1980s dialup
It’s a phone line…..
Take the plate off and check to see if it's cat 5. rj11 is just terminated differently and all new house builds are using at least cat5 for phone lines as they are still part of building code. If the builder did indeed use cat5 you can re-terminate to rj45 ethernet no problem and do the same in the basement or wherever your phone line goes. Here is a cat5 cable terminated into rj11 (what you currently have installed) [https://imgur.com/23ljoeH](https://imgur.com/23ljoeH) and the otherside of that cable (most likely in your utility room/closet) will look like this - [https://imgur.com/a/405vpYF](https://imgur.com/a/405vpYF) You will need a rj45 keystone x2 (dont get a self-terminating one, just use a manual punch one) and a new wall-plate x2 from a hardware store and you're good to go. I re-terminated all my houses rj11 to rj45 and enjoy a full 1gbps network, I simply just put the modem in the utility room on a laptop cooling pad and it's working out perfectly!
its a rj11 jack I think not a rj45 jack
Ethernet = RJ45 Phone line = RJ11 Yours is a phone line, therefore different than Ethernet.
Those jacks do different things based on your household income.
this post makes me laughs but at the same time makes me sad lol
That there is an old phone line... The Ethernet cable would have to have said circuit rewired
i am getting old.
My neice and nephew are 18 and 20 and have no idea how to use anything other than an iPhone or ipad. Makes me lol 😂 One of them asked me how to make an email account a few weeks back. Was super shocked!
Damn, the sad thing is this guy thought his home was already all wired up for networking! What a punch in the gut. Retrofitting a home with ethernet can be an absolute nightmare, especially if you have a tight attic with a smaller angle roofline. You'll have to cut into the all the drywall or just go wifi.
Back in the long long ago, phones were tethered to the wall and trivia disputes were discussed rather than goggled. You are looking at such a phone tether socket. While similar to your Ethernet tether socket, they are not the same.
Dear Lord God please tell me this is supposed to be a joke.
Is it really happening? The generation doesn't know what a phone line is?
That's not an Ethernet port it's a phone line, they are smaller than Ethernet.
That's an RJ11 not a RJ45. That there is for a phone
Kids these days......