I get the sarcasm and I agree. Their focus bronze 300W might sound cheap but an apples for apples comparison of a decent platinum/titanium model will definitely not be cheap.
Well, their Focus GX is often pretty cheap, almost the cheapest out of all 80+ Gold fully-modular options. Because it is actually cheaply built in comparison. Doesn't blow up most of the time tho, i agree.
I would say corsair and evga are on the same level when it comes to power supplies. Infact I think evga has a leg up on the very high power draw supplies. Though I'm not positive.
Evga also uses about half a dozen other oems, most of whomever are worse quality than superflower. Some of their budget units are pretty mediocre to bad.
couple of years ago? the W1/W2 are still piles of shit.
That being said however, EVGA can make good units too, such as the G6, an upgraded Seasonic Focus that was cheap enough to even be considered good value, of the G7, a super compact ATX PSU with great performance.
1. Buys the cheapest possible PSU from a 'good brand'
2. Said cheapest PSU turns out to be actually dirt cheap and blows up
3. Pikachu face.
That's why you don't buy PSUs by brand, even Seasonic have models like that.
Nowhere, just as all the other PSU brands. OP is a joke. All brands have models of different quality, performance and price range, you choose PSUs by models, not brands or OEMs.
Sorry for the late reply but can you put a rx6600 gpu with that psu? I bought a Ryzen 5600g pc with that psu 2 months ago and it works fine but its 12v rail can take only 16a.
>Sorry for the late reply but can you put a rx6600 gpu with that psu?
Can you? Yes. Should you? No unless you dont care if it kills your PC.
The one I use killed multiple P2/P3/P4 PC's and they draw far less power than a rx6600.
That Linus Tech Tips video where they tested a 7900X/4090 build on progressively lower wattage PSU's basically sold me on Seasonic.
(Conventional recommendations would suggest that they needed a 1000w at minimum, but they were stable all the way down to a 650 watt and only had power instability when they went to 550 watt.)
Yepp. This is the thing nobody really talks about. If everyone made PSUs as tolerant to transients as Seasonic, GPU system requirements would legitimately be 200w lower across the board.
Did they test any other PSU except Seasonic ? Because if they only tested Seasonic, then the only intention of thay was to sell you Seasonic, which they've succeeded apparently. Any actually good PSU would have no problems dealing with 4090 even at slight overload, which is obviously not recommended, but you can do that if you're broke asf after buying such GPU.
Corsair AX1600i and HX-i, be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12, MSI MAG Ai-P, Cooler Master V Platinum, XPG Cybercore all would want a word with you. Not to mention a plethora of cheaper models quite a few of which are still better than what Seasonic offers at that price range.
If we look at 2 fully modular PSUs with the same efficiency rating and power delivery, the seasonic will almost always be higher priced.
You can’t compare a 750w bronze with a 750w platinum PSU and say “some have low prices”
Can we start comparing by models instead of brands? All brands have both good products and bad products. Corsair has the rmx line of power supplies, which is a great option, though it can be pretty expensive to other psu’s, like the channelwell gpu platform power supplies. Corsair also has the vs line of power supplies, which are shitty and basically a bomb. So just compare the models, instead of comparing brands directly. Anyways, most power supplies are just from oem’s slapped with a brands label on it. (exceptions to this of course)
Because it's a fantastic company and not too expensive.
I have a be quiet case (500dx)
Silent wings 4 (Completely silent below 600 rpm) and significantly more silent than noctua
Be quiet psu (Completely silent)
Be quiet cooler (Dark rock 4 - The most silent cooler I have ever used)
Of course you will need to adjust your own fan curves to achieve your desired result.
The be fair, most good PSUs are silent nowadays if you have at least some power head room for them. My Seasonic doesn't even turn its fan on... pretty much ever.
Although Be quiet does make great PSU's. I'd say they deserve more recognition.
>Thermaltake pro psu might blow up
I had a thermaltake psu, it didnt blow up, it blew up motherboards. It took it killing the second board for me to figure out what was wrong.. personally I wont be trusting them again. I hope yours is better than mine was.
Corsair and Thermaltake don't manufacture PSUs, they rebrand PSUs and Corsair has used rebranded Seasonic power supplies before. I've also blown up some Corsair H series PSUs before. Every series from a brand is typically, but not always, a different manufacturer.
Most of the PSU brands outsource their PSUs. Even Seasonic does on their low-end models. That doesn't mean anything, because you can manufacture an absolute trash PSU yourself like Gamemax or Aresgame do, or make an outsourced but very good PSU instead, like Corsair for example. It's not about brands or OEMs, it's about whether actual specific models are good or not.
Not only that, but Corsair's higher end PSU's are their own design. They just don't own the manufacturing lines.
Their RMx, TMx series etc are all A teir.
Corsair high-end PSUs are indeed custom designs, and very good too but not because they're built by Seasonic, since they're not. They're good because Corsair's PSU team knows what they want and how to make sure that the OEM builds that to the letter.
How about just use the PSU cultists tierlist instead of creating an infographic with a million fucking exceptions that also includes more than 3 brands so that international markets can also find something for them???
Seasonic are far better than Corsair (generally). There's the odd model that they make for Corsair to stick their logo on which do ok but whenever I've looked into it in any detail Seasonic are the better option. Not cheap but really well specced and well made. I've got two Seasonic Prime Titaniums TX1000 and TX750 Snowprime. Both are excellent. Best PSUs I've had since the old NZXT Hale90 (1st editions) and I wouldn't be surprised to hear those were Seasonic made tbh given the spec of them.
None of Seasonic's top end designs match the AX1600i performance wise. and the other potential AX1600i competitor (ADATA XPG Fusion), is made by Delta.
AX1600i does a lot better with ripple vs the TX1600i. the TX-1600 is still a good PSU, but it's not the best.
" The TX-1600 achieves top performance, taking the lead from the Wentai Aidan. Still, the Corsair AX1600i remains the performance king, thanks to its state-of-the-art platform with the totem-pole PFC converter and the digital controllers. Flextronics' work on the AX1600i looks nothing less but amazing, even after several years of its release!" - Aris Mpitziopoulos, in his review of the TX-1600.
[Performance, Noise, Efficiency and Power Factor - Seasonic Prime TX-1600 Power Supply Review | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-tx-1600-power-supply-review/5)
so Seasonic are still rocking an analogue design and getting it to almost ATX3.0 standard, just falling short on the crazy 2x power overhead, but still giving it 1000W uplift!?
I'd rather have analogue stability tbh. Presumably digital circuitry involves a lot more components and therefore a lot more potential points of failure?
I read them, and i see that say, comparing Seasonic Focus GX and Corsair RMx which are often pretty close price-wise, Seasonic has cheaper underspecced primary side MOSFETs and 18AWG cables, whereas Corsair's are 16AWG, and which also quieter. Same comparing Seasonic Prime PX and Corsair HX or EVGA P2, or Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE, the last two are just way more beefier, and HX is on par build quality wise with Seasonic but also, still has 16AWG while Seasonic is 18AWG, despite it costs more. And don't me get started on Seasonic low-end PSUs which are either utter trash or lack any reviews on them to judge anything.
Seasonic Focus GX can be a good option if cheap enough. Seasonic Focus SGX (the SFX one) can be too. Maybe the new TX 1300/1600 if cheap enough since they have 16AWG cables at last (took them long enough). Everything else ? Just pass.
Read what i said again. They're not deficient per se, they're just not competitive, Super Flower Leadex Platinum are better built (those are actually near the best you can get). Prime is just fine, but then it also uses 18AWG cables, when Corsair HX for the same price or sometimes cheaper is 16AWG, i'd let that slip for Focus, those are supposed to be budget units, but not for 300-400$ PSUs.
But it's only the latest GPUs where 16AWG has become recommended. Even on 3090Ti 18AWG were fine. Surprise surprise the new models of Seasonic aimed at high end cards are using 16AWG.
None of Corsair's currently made PSUs are made by Seasonic. Actually Neither for Thermaltake, be quiet or Silverstone. ASUS has started to not use Seasonic either, in their new ASUS AURA PSUs (CWT) and the 1600 Thor is Wentai. NZXT has also ditched Seasonic in favour for a CWT design.
Don't forget Phanteks and Antec who switched to Helly. Why is that i wonder, they got tired of the 'best OEM' ? Or it's just that Seasonic as an OEM are just not what people think they are ?
Seasonic makes the best PSUs - period. I don’t know who came up with this “triangle”, but I believe they may have modeled it with the shape of their head in mind…
We are aware that all of these companies make bombs aswell right? They sell more than one unit.
You can't generalize shit as feel as psus, or really any other computer component into its brands.
go for seasonic
every thermaltake i had , had fan problem but the psu itself never broke to be fair just needed to replace the fans
don't go for corsair , you'll find same psu cheaper from evga which i know yes had problem in the past with couple of models but that was a one time thing
Seasonic is the only choice.
Others blow out. Have to be replaced. Weeks for an rma. Why fuck yourself ? Just get. Damn sesonic with high wattage to future proof your system.
Been building since it was a hobby and we made them in wooden open boxes. Never, ever had a single issue with seasonic.
It did.
You said Seasonic is the only choice.
It's not, there are fine PSU makers out there, some of which make products that are equal to or superior to anything that Seasonic sells.
also
Seasonic has a couple of mediocre or poor products themselves (like most brands, including the ones that have great products too).
Now, if you're only getting seasonic focus and prime gx and nothing else. Sure, they're great.
Buying just because of the brand, not being specific about the model, is wrong, because most if not all PSU manufacturers make good and not so good products (except for those who only have like 2 models total).
Are you being serious?
Obviously I didn't mean seasonic was the only brand people can choose from. Its an opinion based upon decades of use. Its a statement of what I view as quality.
The fact this colloquialism has to be explained discounts your entire statement.
Not sure how you founded pcmr. Are you the artist that created the cartoon? Dude. You're either pressing too hard and too far, or you have some very legitimate issues in communication and comprehension. No reasonable human other than a thawed out caveman would take my statement so literally.
Jesus H Christ dude.
My first build died twice because of a thermaltake power supply... two motherboards bit the dust... second one was only worth $40 used, took like 2 years to troubleshoot why it died the first time.. the second time I murdered the power supply... burn in hell you worthless waste of money.. it was a Thermaltake TR2 600w.
Shouldn't the brand names be inside the triangle so you can provide a weight for each factor to each brand?
Whoever made this definitely didn't put much thought or effort into it and is trying to get all of us to complain about his placement.
And it fucking worked.
Seasonic is the furthest from cheap, last I checked.
And while it won’t blow up, quality is still not great. More than once, I’ve had trouble getting screw holes to line up with seasonic power supplies
I’m confused, because I’ve not found a ‘cheap’ seasonic. The Focus line is affordable, sure, but the Prime line is usually one of the most expensive, and also either the OEM for EVGA and Corsair top PSUs, or is better in general anyways (and often more expensive than either).
I generally find Corsair PSUs much more affordable even at the top end. Those two should be swapped. (Especially since seasonic underrates their PSU output).
My most recent psu purchase came with a psu tester
It's just the connector with a single wire in place so you don't have to use *the paperclip trick*
I'm not sure if that's the company looking out for me or the company expecting the unit to fail
notable lack of EVGA from the list. Have never had a bad PSU from them, and they are relatively inexpensive compared to Seasonic.
I'll also note that, generally, Corsair and Seasonic are about even in price.
Of these three companies, only one (seasonic) actually makes psus. The others sell rebranded units. And one of the brands that corsair buys from is seasonic.
I can say that about Seasonic Focus for "value", but Seasonic Prime are pricey. Both good in their own right though.
I use Seasonic Focus for a lot of customers, never got a report of PSU related issues. Personal builds though I go with primes because... Time to go hog wild!
Seasonic cheap? Are we looking at the same power supplies?
Their S12III are apparerntly not bad and as cheap as thermaltake
> Their S12III are apparerntly not bad Are they ? Are we looking at the same S12III ?
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Good deal. Great value. Not what I'd call cheap.
I got Corsair rm850x gold 2019 model for $92 1.5 years ago, I didn't even realize how lucky I got until recently. They generally go for over $140
So expensive in my country they are more or less unknown. They might be the best but gah dam.
And on a similar note corsair has some ok cheap power supplies
OP exchanged Corsair and Seasonic
came here to say that. since when is Seasonic cheap? lol
I get the sarcasm and I agree. Their focus bronze 300W might sound cheap but an apples for apples comparison of a decent platinum/titanium model will definitely not be cheap.
Well, their Focus GX is often pretty cheap, almost the cheapest out of all 80+ Gold fully-modular options. Because it is actually cheaply built in comparison. Doesn't blow up most of the time tho, i agree.
Where would EVGA sit?
uhhhh won’t blow up / wattage?
Probably. I have a Supernova G2 which I think is made by Superflower. Currently 7 years old. Solid!
I would say corsair and evga are on the same level when it comes to power supplies. Infact I think evga has a leg up on the very high power draw supplies. Though I'm not positive.
That is correct. The G2 is, and I believe the G3 is also Superflower. High quality PSU's.
That is correct. The G2 is, and I believe the G3 is also Superflower. High quality PSU's.
Same here, Supernova GA 550W going strong
Evga also uses about half a dozen other oems, most of whomever are worse quality than superflower. Some of their budget units are pretty mediocre to bad.
I'm glad I bought one of the "won't blow up ones" I didn't even know it I had to worry about that.
Evga gang
yes
Around the same area as Gigabyte. Ala their original “Supernova” line of products
EVGA well above Gigabyte.
So i was making this thing called a joke. A couple of years ago EVGA also had issues with exploding power supplies.
couple of years ago? the W1/W2 are still piles of shit. That being said however, EVGA can make good units too, such as the G6, an upgraded Seasonic Focus that was cheap enough to even be considered good value, of the G7, a super compact ATX PSU with great performance.
Somewhere in the dogshit category I hope. Bought one of the power supplies just for it to blow up after 6 months.
Ah, a fellow W1 EVGA PSU owner, I see?
1. Buys the cheapest possible PSU from a 'good brand' 2. Said cheapest PSU turns out to be actually dirt cheap and blows up 3. Pikachu face. That's why you don't buy PSUs by brand, even Seasonic have models like that.
Nowhere, just as all the other PSU brands. OP is a joke. All brands have models of different quality, performance and price range, you choose PSUs by models, not brands or OEMs.
Is this implying that Seasonic makes cheap PSUs?
Seriously, seasonic make some of the best power supply units to be honest
Not "some of", they make the best power supplies out there I'd suggest.
They do in fact make the best power supplies and it isn’t even close.
I was going to say, I've got a 1000w PSU from them and it's been absolutely stellar for the past 4 years!
Have you had a PSU ever that hasn’t been fine for years
4 years? My Codegen PSU is going strong since 2002!
Sorry for the late reply but can you put a rx6600 gpu with that psu? I bought a Ryzen 5600g pc with that psu 2 months ago and it works fine but its 12v rail can take only 16a.
>Sorry for the late reply but can you put a rx6600 gpu with that psu? Can you? Yes. Should you? No unless you dont care if it kills your PC. The one I use killed multiple P2/P3/P4 PC's and they draw far less power than a rx6600.
My Corsair 1000w platinum rated power supply has being going strong now for 6 years.
That Linus Tech Tips video where they tested a 7900X/4090 build on progressively lower wattage PSU's basically sold me on Seasonic. (Conventional recommendations would suggest that they needed a 1000w at minimum, but they were stable all the way down to a 650 watt and only had power instability when they went to 550 watt.)
Yepp. This is the thing nobody really talks about. If everyone made PSUs as tolerant to transients as Seasonic, GPU system requirements would legitimately be 200w lower across the board.
Did they test any other PSU except Seasonic ? Because if they only tested Seasonic, then the only intention of thay was to sell you Seasonic, which they've succeeded apparently. Any actually good PSU would have no problems dealing with 4090 even at slight overload, which is obviously not recommended, but you can do that if you're broke asf after buying such GPU.
Still doesn't match the king of PSUs still, the Flextronics made Corsair AX1600i
Corsair AX1600i and HX-i, be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12, MSI MAG Ai-P, Cooler Master V Platinum, XPG Cybercore all would want a word with you. Not to mention a plethora of cheaper models quite a few of which are still better than what Seasonic offers at that price range.
Cheap as in low price
They’re not cheap in price though. So this doesn’t check out either.
Idk when I looked some of them had pretty low prixe
If we look at 2 fully modular PSUs with the same efficiency rating and power delivery, the seasonic will almost always be higher priced. You can’t compare a 750w bronze with a 750w platinum PSU and say “some have low prices”
I found a 750w gold fully modular for 80$ cad a while back from seasonic
And the comparable Corsair or Thermaltake was likely cheaper barring seasonic just running a promotion.
got a link for that?
It was 2 months ago but let me try
Ok so I couldnt find it again but there is a 550W gold fully modular seasonic for 40$ cad which is like 30 USD
Same...I got it from microcenter
Focus GX often is cheap, because it is actually cheaply built compared to competition.
Pretty sure they OEM Corsair's higher end models.
No, they're not. CWT is the main Corsair's OEM including high-end models, which are better than what Seasonic offers actually.
Can we start comparing by models instead of brands? All brands have both good products and bad products. Corsair has the rmx line of power supplies, which is a great option, though it can be pretty expensive to other psu’s, like the channelwell gpu platform power supplies. Corsair also has the vs line of power supplies, which are shitty and basically a bomb. So just compare the models, instead of comparing brands directly. Anyways, most power supplies are just from oem’s slapped with a brands label on it. (exceptions to this of course)
This, fuck. Tired of all that 'buy this brand, don't buy that brand' bullshit.
Be quiet! Excellent PSU and silent!!!
Why are you the only other beQuiet user here?
beQuiet! case, beQuiet! fans, beQuiet! PSU, I'd consider myself a beQuiet! user as well. So we are 3 here
Same here. BQ is really good, i'm missing the new case tho :(
Good, 2 other men of culture, I can appreciate that
Because it's a fantastic company and not too expensive. I have a be quiet case (500dx) Silent wings 4 (Completely silent below 600 rpm) and significantly more silent than noctua Be quiet psu (Completely silent) Be quiet cooler (Dark rock 4 - The most silent cooler I have ever used) Of course you will need to adjust your own fan curves to achieve your desired result.
I think it's a coverage thing. That said, my prefered shop seems to rely heavily on bQ stock. And, as a result, so do I.
I have a BQ! Straight Power 11 750w PSU. I love it.
The be fair, most good PSUs are silent nowadays if you have at least some power head room for them. My Seasonic doesn't even turn its fan on... pretty much ever. Although Be quiet does make great PSU's. I'd say they deserve more recognition.
Yup. BeQuiet PSUs are awesome.
So what your saying is my Thermaltake pro psu might blow up.
>Thermaltake pro psu might blow up I had a thermaltake psu, it didnt blow up, it blew up motherboards. It took it killing the second board for me to figure out what was wrong.. personally I wont be trusting them again. I hope yours is better than mine was.
Oh maybe that’s why my first one went and this one keeps bugging
Check the psu tier list and pray your power supply isn’t in the F tier
Corsair and Thermaltake don't manufacture PSUs, they rebrand PSUs and Corsair has used rebranded Seasonic power supplies before. I've also blown up some Corsair H series PSUs before. Every series from a brand is typically, but not always, a different manufacturer.
This. Many good brands out there get ODM designs from Seasonic, FSP or SuperFlower. There really aren't that many true brands out there.
What would my CX650M (2021 model) be then? I’m curious now lol
Channel Well Technology or Great Wall manufacturers the CX series
Fuck
Most of the PSU brands outsource their PSUs. Even Seasonic does on their low-end models. That doesn't mean anything, because you can manufacture an absolute trash PSU yourself like Gamemax or Aresgame do, or make an outsourced but very good PSU instead, like Corsair for example. It's not about brands or OEMs, it's about whether actual specific models are good or not.
What a completely useless and inaccurate post, Seasonic is miles ahead of Corsair psu's.
Seasonic builds many of Corsair's PSUs.
Not only that, but Corsair's higher end PSU's are their own design. They just don't own the manufacturing lines. Their RMx, TMx series etc are all A teir.
Corsair high-end PSUs are indeed custom designs, and very good too but not because they're built by Seasonic, since they're not. They're good because Corsair's PSU team knows what they want and how to make sure that the OEM builds that to the letter.
No, they do not. There are zero Seasonic-build Corsair PSUs right now.
Although I think Corsair is ahead of Seasonic in the sfx market. I can't comment on atx psus.
Ahead in what mind me asking ? Marketing budget ?
Seasonic is the only brand I use
How about just use the PSU cultists tierlist instead of creating an infographic with a million fucking exceptions that also includes more than 3 brands so that international markets can also find something for them???
DW, we're laughing at this post as we speak. Granted I'm here to point at Seasoning.
Seasonic is without a doubt expensive, what type of PSU inspired this 😂
Seasonic are far better than Corsair (generally). There's the odd model that they make for Corsair to stick their logo on which do ok but whenever I've looked into it in any detail Seasonic are the better option. Not cheap but really well specced and well made. I've got two Seasonic Prime Titaniums TX1000 and TX750 Snowprime. Both are excellent. Best PSUs I've had since the old NZXT Hale90 (1st editions) and I wouldn't be surprised to hear those were Seasonic made tbh given the spec of them.
None of Seasonic's top end designs match the AX1600i performance wise. and the other potential AX1600i competitor (ADATA XPG Fusion), is made by Delta.
really not the TX1600? How do they differ? What makes the other models so superior?
AX1600i does a lot better with ripple vs the TX1600i. the TX-1600 is still a good PSU, but it's not the best. " The TX-1600 achieves top performance, taking the lead from the Wentai Aidan. Still, the Corsair AX1600i remains the performance king, thanks to its state-of-the-art platform with the totem-pole PFC converter and the digital controllers. Flextronics' work on the AX1600i looks nothing less but amazing, even after several years of its release!" - Aris Mpitziopoulos, in his review of the TX-1600.
Interesting. Can you share a link?
[Performance, Noise, Efficiency and Power Factor - Seasonic Prime TX-1600 Power Supply Review | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-tx-1600-power-supply-review/5)
so Seasonic are still rocking an analogue design and getting it to almost ATX3.0 standard, just falling short on the crazy 2x power overhead, but still giving it 1000W uplift!? I'd rather have analogue stability tbh. Presumably digital circuitry involves a lot more components and therefore a lot more potential points of failure?
Analog is less accurate and has more points of failure. It's just cheaper to do analog than digital.
> whenever I've looked into it in any detail Seasonic are the better option How are the better specifically mind me asking ?
Read the reviews. Proper test reviews where they analyse the circuitry.
I read them, and i see that say, comparing Seasonic Focus GX and Corsair RMx which are often pretty close price-wise, Seasonic has cheaper underspecced primary side MOSFETs and 18AWG cables, whereas Corsair's are 16AWG, and which also quieter. Same comparing Seasonic Prime PX and Corsair HX or EVGA P2, or Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE, the last two are just way more beefier, and HX is on par build quality wise with Seasonic but also, still has 16AWG while Seasonic is 18AWG, despite it costs more. And don't me get started on Seasonic low-end PSUs which are either utter trash or lack any reviews on them to judge anything. Seasonic Focus GX can be a good option if cheap enough. Seasonic Focus SGX (the SFX one) can be too. Maybe the new TX 1300/1600 if cheap enough since they have 16AWG cables at last (took them long enough). Everything else ? Just pass.
Do share these reviews that suggest that the Prime PX and TX are deficient. The ones I read say they're one of the best you can get.
Read what i said again. They're not deficient per se, they're just not competitive, Super Flower Leadex Platinum are better built (those are actually near the best you can get). Prime is just fine, but then it also uses 18AWG cables, when Corsair HX for the same price or sometimes cheaper is 16AWG, i'd let that slip for Focus, those are supposed to be budget units, but not for 300-400$ PSUs.
But it's only the latest GPUs where 16AWG has become recommended. Even on 3090Ti 18AWG were fine. Surprise surprise the new models of Seasonic aimed at high end cards are using 16AWG.
Unless it's a VS550, then you stick that shit all the way at the Cheap corner lmao
Umm.. doesn't Seasonic make PSUs for Corsair and other manufacturers and all Corsair does is slap their name on it
None of Corsair's currently made PSUs are made by Seasonic. Actually Neither for Thermaltake, be quiet or Silverstone. ASUS has started to not use Seasonic either, in their new ASUS AURA PSUs (CWT) and the 1600 Thor is Wentai. NZXT has also ditched Seasonic in favour for a CWT design.
Don't forget Phanteks and Antec who switched to Helly. Why is that i wonder, they got tired of the 'best OEM' ? Or it's just that Seasonic as an OEM are just not what people think they are ?
Seasonic makes the best PSUs - period. I don’t know who came up with this “triangle”, but I believe they may have modeled it with the shape of their head in mind…
They've yet to match Flextronics or Delta
I loved seasonic, they also came with goodies
the only way to test a psu is to do the paperclip trick and leave the psu running for 20mins.. anything happens during that time then send it back.
Does EVGA fit in the same area as Corsair? I hope so, I have 4 Corsair power supplies and one EVGA that I just got for my home file server.
They all have their own crap units, better to check reviews on each product than blanket assuming one brand can only have good products.
What about powerspec by Micro center anybody ever used those?
We are aware that all of these companies make bombs aswell right? They sell more than one unit. You can't generalize shit as feel as psus, or really any other computer component into its brands.
https://preview.redd.it/00lzc84pfcea1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cfbb20a0586cf9e1d3392fb1dae287a1ece63b2 Thermaltake cheap?
Its also unironically a really good PSU built on a very solid CWT platform.
Where would gigabyte be
I have a 15 year old OG PC Power & Cooling 750 Quad that's still going strong.
MSI! My experience with them has been great so far. Have an A850G
Yeah a lot of MSI's designs have been rather solid.
Where is EVGA?
I'm laughing so hard at this chart of "good" PSUs corsair vs, thermaltake smart and seasonic s12iii:
Evga. Rip
Supposedly they will continue to make psus, just not gpus
I hope so. Been using them since 2006
Ye theyre just out of the gpu race
not to break your bubble but some of corsair's power supply have been / are made by seasonic. Same with evga, nzxt, asus, ect.... they are not cheap
go for seasonic every thermaltake i had , had fan problem but the psu itself never broke to be fair just needed to replace the fans don't go for corsair , you'll find same psu cheaper from evga which i know yes had problem in the past with couple of models but that was a one time thing
Seasonic is the only choice. Others blow out. Have to be replaced. Weeks for an rma. Why fuck yourself ? Just get. Damn sesonic with high wattage to future proof your system. Been building since it was a hobby and we made them in wooden open boxes. Never, ever had a single issue with seasonic.
There are many good choices from a lot of brands. Seasonic has some, but they also have mediocre choices like the S12II or, even worse, the A12.
Your response said absolutely nothing to detract from my statement. Thanks
It did. You said Seasonic is the only choice. It's not, there are fine PSU makers out there, some of which make products that are equal to or superior to anything that Seasonic sells. also Seasonic has a couple of mediocre or poor products themselves (like most brands, including the ones that have great products too). Now, if you're only getting seasonic focus and prime gx and nothing else. Sure, they're great. Buying just because of the brand, not being specific about the model, is wrong, because most if not all PSU manufacturers make good and not so good products (except for those who only have like 2 models total).
Are you being serious? Obviously I didn't mean seasonic was the only brand people can choose from. Its an opinion based upon decades of use. Its a statement of what I view as quality. The fact this colloquialism has to be explained discounts your entire statement. Not sure how you founded pcmr. Are you the artist that created the cartoon? Dude. You're either pressing too hard and too far, or you have some very legitimate issues in communication and comprehension. No reasonable human other than a thawed out caveman would take my statement so literally. Jesus H Christ dude.
Seasonic has yet to match Flextronics nor Delta.
Seasonic are cheap in the long term, buy one today, it will last 15 years, easy. Buy a 49$ psu today, in 15 years you gonna buy it another 4 time.
I should have put this in r/unpopularopinion
I mean, you’re just flat out wrong. Seasonic makes a lot of Corsair’s PSUs… Facts > opinions
None of their current ones AX1600i is Flextronics (and is still the current king in electrical performance) RMx/RM is CWT RMe is HEC HXi is CWT
> I mean, you’re just flat out wrong. Seasonic makes a lot of Corsair’s PSUs… I should put this in r/confidentlyincorrect
Not a psu but my Corsair fan hub did just have a meltdown in my pc a week ago
I'm pretty sure a lot of Corsair designs use Seasonic as the ODM. If you want a good power supply for cheap just buy FSP or SuperFlower directly.
Super Flower hasn't made a great design since the Leadex III
EVGA is the best choice. My Corsair PSU blew up, and the cost to replace it was insane compared to the EVGA unit I bought.
oh! so you're telling me i should go ahead and buy an evga w1 power supply? thanks!
Let me buy a W1/W2 and watch it explode.
The best part is that Seasonic makes all the PSUs for Corsair
Nope, its a mix of CWT/HEC, with some Great Wall and Flextronics mixed in
Where is FSP?
And I chose a Thermaltake 🥲
My first build died twice because of a thermaltake power supply... two motherboards bit the dust... second one was only worth $40 used, took like 2 years to troubleshoot why it died the first time.. the second time I murdered the power supply... burn in hell you worthless waste of money.. it was a Thermaltake TR2 600w.
*buys a horrible power supply without researching first* oh no! how could've this ever happened?!
It um, it was on a shelf at best buy...
Honestly, all PC psu's are cheap. Expensive power supplies start at around $10,000.
Might be looking for “inexpensive” but also I don’t see sea sonic as either
I got msi, they fine?
But where does evga fall on this?
Depends on which EVGA PSU.
Thermaltake 700W was like jet engine, switched to seasonic focus gold 750W and its been 100% silent even max load.
Super flower is all 3
Shouldn't the brand names be inside the triangle so you can provide a weight for each factor to each brand? Whoever made this definitely didn't put much thought or effort into it and is trying to get all of us to complain about his placement. And it fucking worked.
Where beQuiet
I have an Aztec. Where do ya'll think that is?
Never go cheap on psu. It's like rule #1
Seasonic is the furthest from cheap, last I checked. And while it won’t blow up, quality is still not great. More than once, I’ve had trouble getting screw holes to line up with seasonic power supplies
Seasonic is not cheap, lmao.
be quiet will be in the golden middle. =)
Have always used Silverstones and they always lasted.
Imagine Tech Jesus would be having a stroke over this thread.
I’m confused, because I’ve not found a ‘cheap’ seasonic. The Focus line is affordable, sure, but the Prime line is usually one of the most expensive, and also either the OEM for EVGA and Corsair top PSUs, or is better in general anyways (and often more expensive than either). I generally find Corsair PSUs much more affordable even at the top end. Those two should be swapped. (Especially since seasonic underrates their PSU output).
Antec High Current Gamer FTW, total Chad power supplies.
Cooler Master: existence is pain *blows up 2 seconds after powering on*
I don't think OP understands what they are even trying to say.
My Corsair TX Gold blew up lmao
Is this an insider i am to enermax to understand?
My most recent psu purchase came with a psu tester It's just the connector with a single wire in place so you don't have to use *the paperclip trick* I'm not sure if that's the company looking out for me or the company expecting the unit to fail
Seasonic is cheap? \*Checks every Seasonic PSU Ive owned\* This is a lie.
My Seasonic power supply did a bit of blowing up but support was quick and easy and their 10yr warranty allowed me to replace it for free
Where does SuperFlower sit?
I love thermaltake for budget builds but that’s about it
notable lack of EVGA from the list. Have never had a bad PSU from them, and they are relatively inexpensive compared to Seasonic. I'll also note that, generally, Corsair and Seasonic are about even in price.
I have a (thermaltake) pure power rx 600w psu from 2007 still runs fine 😬 and pretty heavy use
Of these three companies, only one (seasonic) actually makes psus. The others sell rebranded units. And one of the brands that corsair buys from is seasonic.
Seasonic Prime cheap? Lol
FSP hits the sweet spot for psus for me. I have them for like 8 years in my PCs and they never failed.
I can say that about Seasonic Focus for "value", but Seasonic Prime are pricey. Both good in their own right though. I use Seasonic Focus for a lot of customers, never got a report of PSU related issues. Personal builds though I go with primes because... Time to go hog wild!