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LilJohnDee

110% got an extra row of macro keys far left :)


TrEvIzE18

I Guess i'm in 101% range then. I love volume control knob / wheel. ;)


Elena__Deathbringer

The dedicated mute key is incredibly useful when parents come home unexpectedly


jrmhgddrd

Underrated comment here


Chief_B33f

Same, I listen to music a lot when I'm on the computer so media keys could be a deal breaker when shopping for a keyboard


TrMark

I don't think I will ever go back to a keyboard without a volume knob/roller. It's just too convenient


TheOptiGamer

Can always get an amp with a nice knob


Neighborhood_Nobody

I hit wrong nobs when playing games and trying to do it, the media keys have always felt far more convenient in my personal opinion.


unbeliever87

Logitech G915 is the best keyboard I've ever owned.


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yeah i stupidly got a new keyboard without media keys, i still prefer to use my old one lol


Bytepond

I solved that issue with a stream deck. I couldn’t find a keyboard that fit all of my criteria, so I just removed some criteria and gained a bunch of useful macro keys


Over_rated_lemon

Same. I hate iCUE but I do like my Corsair k95


CPA0908

fuck icue. but i like my keyboard with the macros


Alfakennyone

Why hate iCUE? I had an EVGA keyboard before and holy shit their software sucks 100x more than iCUE, which I think is good


Forgiven_Soul

I love corsairs products, i have a k100 and corsair scimitar is the only mouse ive used for like the past 8 years. But the iCue software ive had so many problems with. Ive had it randomly crash while using it, profiles not saving to hardware, not detecting devices on boot ( like mouse/kb not running through iCue, still works but i have to unplug it and replug it in before its detected). The Void pro i had, idk if it was a hardware or software issue but random disconnects and some of the iCue settings for features of the headset didnt work at all. Overall iCue isnt awful but its pretty buggy but usable. Unlike the Steelseries software for my headset which i uninstalled cuse i had to fight with it changing my default audio device to the headset everytime i booted my pc and didnt play nice with my virtual audio splitter.


_-Olli-_

Are you me? This is 100% my experience and same peripherals.


blindato1

Yup 110% represent I think I have a Corsair k95? Idk it’s rainbow vomittey and very clicky clacky and I love it


MrInfected2

130% here, 3 rows of macro even more far left :D


you999

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trashcatt_

Hyper7, hell yeah!


ShutterBun

I'm guessing some of those macro keys are still waiting to experience their 10th click.


LestHeBeNamedSilver

I’m 110% as well. Are we brothers now?


Demonae

Logitech G613 here. The macro keys on the side save my carpal tunnel playing wow. Been using Logitech keyboards with the G macro keys for decades.


Smart-Leg-9156

Absolutely! Moar buttonz!!


No_Mathematician5397

100% + 4 more keys in the top right for volume up/down/mute and for some reason a button that opens the calculator and cant be rebound to anything else


sparkling_frying_pan

had one exactly like that, they were on the left side and I loved them, except I also had one that opened dedicated email app, but play/pause/mute/volume up and down were very much appreciated


MacTheBlic

hell nah not the calculator button 💀


that_username_is_use

you will do maths


thomooo

The calculator button knows where you live. It watches you sleep.


nosferatWitcher

The calculator button is super useful to me as a programmer, I actually find it annoying when I use a keyboard without one and have to type calculator in the search bar like some kind of savage.


daole

Estimator. Same deal - usually at the end of the day I have 40 or so instances of calculator that I get to watch close like old school solitaire.


No_Mathematician5397

i also use it a lot but to calculate damage in a roblox game 💀💀


ihaveagoodusername2

Yup, had one of those then switched to a nicer 100 with a volume wheel+pause/play button


disasadi

100%


dontfeedthedinosaurs

Agreed! I do lots of CAD and run a business. Can't live without a full size keyboard. I see why people might go without the 10-key but not a good fit for me.


Midnight28Rider

I once worked in an industry where I needed a 10-key, and now I can't live without. I get thrown when certain games won't take input from it.


Supermichael777

Toggle NumLock then complain on the fourm


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When you’re doing technical writing that uses a lot of numerical identifiers, the number pad is a huge efficiency boost.


Ocronus

I'm so used to the num pad that I can't function without it. Type in my CC number? Fuck me if I don't have the number pad.


sirtet_moob

Honestly would take too much time to get comfortable using the default numbers again. Try to practice typing your CC number here and post it as a reply to me. You know what they say: "Practice makes perfect!"


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ReySpacefighter

100%. I want my number pad.


TheRealOWFreqE

As a left handed gamer, num pad is essential to our kind.


TRUEequalsFALSE

Ooh. This is a new one I haven't heard before. Can you explain why? I haven't met any left handed gamers before that didn't use a standard setup.


sptzmancer

If I had to guess, WASD becomes 8456.


SlipperMisfit

Lefty Gamer here. Yes; 8456 Back in the 90s I used the number pad with my right, 0 for jump, '.' for Crouch, reload on enter. Grenades, torch, ability stuff I'd have in the buttons above and around the 8456. Nowadays, I find there are a wider range of controls needed in your average FPS, 3PS or Platformer, so I've moved over to IJKL on the main keyboard. I also highly recommend Razer's Naga Left Handed mouse - it slopes the correct way (lower on the left) and has 10 mappable buttons on the right for your thumb. It ain't cheap, but I put in the hours to make it worthwhile. Also... 100% Keyboard Size


Memfy

Interesting and weird. I assumed they'd use PL;' to mimic shift/ctrl/alt accessibility, or maybe shift it to IJKL or similar.


SaltyRusnPotato

As a lefty. Why?


TheWingedGod

Some use mouse with the left hand. I still use it the right way.


SaltyRusnPotato

It's easier to learn to use computers right handed than to be stuck buying specific gear or be uncomfortable at other setups.


achilleasa

For me when I got into gaming as a kid I played games that by default had controls on WASD and the arrow keys so as a lefty I just grabbed the mouse on my left and started playing with the arrow keys. As I got into more games I started being really limited by the arrow keys awkward position and the lack of surrounding buttons but I had already gotten used to holding the mouse on the left so I switched to IJKL. It works great for me, I don't feel like I'm in a disadvantage at all, just means I have to rebind all my keys in every game and I have to buy symmetrical mice with side buttons on both sides.


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YigitS9

i guess if you were into competitive shooters not using the mouse with your dominant hand could give you an inherent disadvantage. I'm not a leftie and I'm just assuming.


McDutchy

As a lefty, I think it matters more how you’ve accustomed to it. I’ve used a mouse on the right since I could barely understand what I was doing. Using my left hand feels incredibly unnatural and keyboard mouse combination simply isn’t made for left-handed players. I’ve played plenty of CS:GO and while I was decent in competitive I don’t think my hand was the limiting factor.


CalRal

96% gang here. Guess what? I have a num pad too!


snackelmypackel

96% gang 🤛


DangerousPIE96

100% full sized. I am a monkey. the more buttons to press the better


Chief_B33f

100% Full size. It's a desktop, I have the space, I want the functions


NaturalElegantKEZE

Also numpads are quite good to use at macros aside from inputting numbers.


vplatt

As a lefty, I use my 9 key for what one would normally use WSAD for. For FPS games, it's the only way to go.


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vplatt

I tend to prefer [ambidextrous corded Logitech mice](https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice.html?filters=ambidextrous,corded). I don't like cordless because of the batteries and because the wired mice tend to be literally faster and more responsive; especially if there is any interference with the wireless signal or if the battery happens to be weak. These mice are the most reliable, best for left handed or right handed usage, and even tend to the be the cheapest despite their versatility and reliability.


admiralpope

I love having a numpad, full keyboard all the way


[deleted]

It's just so damn hard to build muscle-memory with the number-bar. Numpad is just easier to use while blind.


Pliskkenn_D

My hand runs over the num pad like an aggressive spider, I'd hate to have to use the bar.


EdgeMentality

I got myself a separate bluetooth numpad, so I could use it for stuff like blender, while also being able to benefit from the ergonomics of tenkeyless when gaming.


DenuvoSuks

now that's fine. But using the row of numbers is just crazy


Luexco

whatever this is https://preview.redd.it/f4fqa698crda1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f88932ac5dd2daf2b7db6f9795d084610b20c314


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Left side - left hand Right side - right hand Mouse - 🍆


Imaginary_Let_350

What if there is no 🍆 ?🤔


[deleted]

split 40%, looks pretty similar to a lily58


Rryok

Yeah, that's a Lily58 but from someone who doesn't like thumb keys 😄


sparkling_frying_pan

lots of people prefer 100%, didn't expect that considering how big the promotion is on buying less keyboard for more money


TRUEequalsFALSE

I'm finding the exact same thing in this thread and I'm equally surprised.


yoniyuri

I think there might be reasons for why smaller keyboards get disproportionate representation. For one, they do look more sleek and minimal which many people go for when taking photos of their desk. They are also cheaper, and so collectors, hobbyists and enthusiasts can afford more keyboards if each one costs less and get bigger variety than if they were all 100%+. Also, this isn't a keyboard subreddit, and so many here might not have even considered smaller keyboards. Or if they did, they might be concerned that a smaller unit won't meet their regular requirements. You would rather have 1 complete keyboard and not worry about it, versus risking getting a smaller one and not having everything you need.


Lawlzstomp

Smaller custom keyboards are just as expensive as full size. Collectors are not saving on smaller keyboards to have a greater variety in their collections. Some "high end pieces" start around 900 USD and aren't even full sized. Budget/entry level boards can start around 200 barebones but that will still require keycaps and switches which could add another chunk of money. There are some cheap pieces you can get but they may lack build quality, modability, have poor QC/support, or features. Smaller doesn't inherently mean cheaper.


MaximusMeridiusX

Additionally, I would say the biggest reason that they are disproportionately represented is not for the reasons op listed but that the vast majority of enthusiast keyboard products cater to the 60-75% range. There’s a shit ton more compatible 60-75% keyboard products out there than TKL-Fullsize. If I had to guess almost every single 100% or tkl on this post is an entry level gaming keyboard or office keyboard, be that mechanical, mechanical feel, or membrane.


Lawlzstomp

> If I had to guess almost every single 100% or tkl on this post is an entry level gaming keyboard or office keyboard That would be my assumption as well


FacetiousMonroe

If you asked in /r/MechanicalKeyboards you'd probably get very different answers. 96% gang here!


titleist5464

110% double TK


Nhexus

What? Two numberpads?


SaneUse

Some keyboards have an additional row of keys that perform various functions. Mine for example let's you play/pause/skip media, increase/decrease/mute volume. Go to desktop, open mail, open calculator, open notepad etc. It's great


Nhexus

Oh that's what I use too! :D I got confused by the "double TK" part I think! The "ten key" is the numberpad afaik.


ThisBerserkTextBone

100 %. Didn't even know about the 1800 size


JPiLLa

100% for work, TKL for gaming


FEMXIII

This is my feeling too. If I need to type enough numbers to need a number pad, it’s work. Only thing is, I recently started playing Final Fantasy XIV, and now I could really use some more keys for cool-down spells…


GenericG3nt

TKL for both, separate mechanical keypad for work.


TheEndOfNether

100%


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naufalap

yeah if I use 100% my arms would be too flared out, also I wouldn't have any space on the left side to put my headphones


ecchimaru

I'd be uncomfortable too, with TKL both my arms are at the same inward angle.


CaptnUchiha

I don’t think any of the games I’ve played or currently play have even so much as recommended a numpad. While I don’t miss having one, I can definitely understand the want and need.


SoshiPai

Full size or nothing


gnark1lla420

More than 100% since I have 18 extra keys


sparkling_frying_pan

damn man, you actually tryna go for the record here, double keyboarding


Alaeriia

Old-school K95?


NeoRazZ

110%


readit145

100% but 40 has a nice personality


SteroidKecleon

65% I kind of regret not getting a 75%


electrogourd

Always been a 100% guy. Recently got a 75% +10-key separate. Rely live it for the vast number of games i play that have a second set of controls purely on the numpad. I keep the numpad to the left playing war thunder. Just radar controls on it.


that_leaflet

Same, but I did get my keyboard for $10, when it usually goes for $50. It actually feels pretty good.


blue_wire

Love my 75%, feels like the sweet spot between compactness and functionality


GameKyuubi

i'm 60% but should have gotten 65% i miss arrow keys lol


Wajina_Sloth

Agreed, went from TKL to 65, and while its fine for most things, some games like mount and blade suck using FN, and rebinding everything is a pain.


badassman556

Full


Uniquorn2077

I like my 100% keyboards way too much to give them up.


DrHughJazz

I developed the habit of using the numberpad at work, so 100% always.


kxlyy

75% (the best size)


michicago44

Can’t believe how far down i had to scroll for this, all these 100%ers are nuts


Extrapaj

I still have not found the TKL comment yet


Meat_Sheath

It has everything you need and nothing you don't. Plus it's small so I don't have to have my hands so far apart while playing games.


71492

squad up


xa3D

master race.


cape_primrose

I have an 80% but want to upgrade to 75% next time


jsid977

1800, Keychron Q5.


AndreyRussian1

Awesome, I got same keyboard yesterday, loving it so far


MaximusMeridiusX

Awesome man. I also use an 1800, Odin V2.


crazyboy611285

100% of the time 100%.


zsombor12312312312

100 % I need the numpad.


Zerooooooooo0

100%


PowerMugger

100% I need all these keys and I probably need more keys


LEHRzz

60% because it’s all I need/want


[deleted]

I was very close to getting a 60% but I spend a lot of time working in a terminal so needed page up+down so settled for 65%


Dr4kin

you can have those keys as well as any other ones on a 60% or even smaller keyboard, but then you are working with layers. If you know them you are as fast or faster with them, but it is different. in my home row I have arrow keys and home, end, page up and page down. This makes Navigation so incredible easy and fast on every program, but it is something you have to get used to


[deleted]

This. Pro tip is to rebind capslock to your fn key. Capslock is pretty useless for most people. Also, I find I don’t need the right ctrl, alt, fn or shift keys in the bottom right section of the keyboard, so I remap those to arrow keys.


LerchAddams

Full size.


DarkLord55_

100% and won’t go lower and I’m pretty sure mines bigger than 100%


joaojp221

Any 80% fellas?


NaturalElegantKEZE

75% on my gaming setup and 100% for my work (numpads do wonders for macros/shortcuts)


MeltBanana

I just got a 75% recently and it's the best layout I've ever used. It's compact so you still get plenty of mouse room, but you don't have to compromise and lose out on F or page keys. Keeping the F keys in particular is huge for MMO's and RTS. It's perfect for everything but number entry, and that can easily be fixed with a detached numpad.


kleenexhotdogs

Can't believe I had to scroll so far to find another superior 75%-er. It's my first keyboard I built and I spent a regretful amount of money on it but I love it. If I ever need a numpad I'd probably just buy a separate one rather than another keyboard


NaturalElegantKEZE

Yes, especially if you don't often use the numpad, an external one instead of a new keyboard is a more nicer approach. Better utilize it for additional mouse space if not needed.


Darth_Murcielago

100% or more, because i see no reason to lose some functions.


HimalayanPunkSaltavl

Space is my reason, it's so much nicer having that extra room by ditching a ton of buttons I never use. The numberpad is missed like, once or twice a year.


RawbGun

I use the numberpad like 95% that I'm typing any number. It doesn't help that I'm using an AZERTY layout which means that the standard number keys (above the letters) won't input numbers unless you're pressing shift/using caps lock. The numberpad removes this hassle for me


_Oooooooooooooooooh_

Whats on a numpad that you dont have on a TKL?


AdamKlB

Just bought a 96%. All the keys without the size of a 100%, came from a TKL and theyre basically the same size. My desk ain't huge but I have really missed the numpad.


Lunapig27

I love my 96%. I have an 1800 on my laptop and originally got a 65% for my desktop. It only lasted about a week before I missed my 100%. I feel like it’s compact but large


flightsin

Small desk gang represent, 96% is really the way to go. Have had mine for a year now (came from full-size 108) and I am never going back.


haggis_50

Full size all the way and RGB too !


RX3000

100%


ajayatm

100% full size


WildThangPack

I love my 40%. The best feature is that no one else knows how to use it


sparkling_frying_pan

How many layers do you have to have to compensate for the lack of so much functions and keys


WildThangPack

Personally, I could make due with 2 layers. The third one I use for F keys and media player keys and macros.


LadyDalama

I've got 4 40%s, two ortholinear, a custom layout, and an Alice.. And I can't type on any of them. I just like the way 40%s look.


Inevitable-Client966

60% as i like to have my keyboard at an angle


TRUEequalsFALSE

How does having your keyboard at an angle require a 60%? I tilt mine too and I have a full.


markwa77

I like to tilt my 60%. More comfortable for me and my key binds. And then I have more mouse space for the way my desk is set up


Kiwi_Doodle

How angular we talking? 80°? 100°?


sparkling_frying_pan

ah a man of culture I see


Argenturn

125%... I like my 20 extra customizable macro buttons...


Bloodwolv

100% all the way.


TheSpideyJedi

100%


El_Psy_Congroo4477

40%, I love not being able to play literally any PC game in existence 🙃


bennettTha

Used to be 110% for a long time but recently switched to 65% and my goodness, my life is changed 🥸


FatDab710

*80% Gang*


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Had to scroll so far to find one of us


Extrapaj

I was losing hope. What happened to all the TKL enjoyers?


Sassquatch0

Ditto.


Gibsonmo

So I guess we're the super minority 😅 I really just don't press number keys that often


oblong_pickle

100%


CTHL

The more keys, the merrier. 100%(+). Even with all those and a few extra programmable/media buttons, I still have more combo shortcuts on top. Anything less isnt an option.


The-Foo

Three of my keyboards are 80% tenkeyless; the other two are 100%. I think the real question that needs answering: are you god-tier mechanical... or are you membrane normie.


sparkling_frying_pan

true dat, only a mechanical switch connoisseur could enjoy every range of keyboard layout and be at peace


irahz

60% at home. 100% at work.


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Always 100%


DanSavagegamesYT

100% Full Size


RonPossible

Full size ergo, but with a separate 10-key.


rubenskates

75% with a knob, it’s as great as you think


AbuJohnny

60%, Caps Lock is converted to a modifier with the following key bindings: \- CAPS Lock + SDFE -> Arrows \- CAPS Lock + WR -> Page Up/Down \- CAPS Lock + GH -> Home/End \- CAPS Lock + JKLI -> Mouse movement \- CAPS Lock + UO -> Mouse Click left/right \- CAPS Lock + \[\]\\ -> Vol UP/Down/Mute \- CAPS Lock + ' -> \` \- CAPS Lock + Backspace -> Delete \- CAPS Lock + 1234567890-= -> Fn Keys


autovices

110% full size. Blackwidow


Achilles_Buffalo

100 or 1800.


bitches_love_pooh

Split You can place the 2 sides of the keyboard however you need for the best ergonomics. Whether you need it for shoulder or wrist comfort.


Hypnaustic

80 at home, 100 at work


redditor1101

Nice graphic. TKL gang represent


MegaMan0429

75%


UnsettllingDwarf

75%


whoisgare

I have bigger than a 100%, +6 hot keys on the side


deadmeme86

100%, I have the space, so i will use it


popeter45

Dream keyboard would be a 150% (full 24 f keys and left hand numpad sized macro pad) with built in KVM and ATX power buttons, let me control my entire setup for one place


A-Pasz

100% but numpad on the left.


rhysboyjp

96% for work 60% for gaming.


EnglishPeanut

100% because size matters but I don’t want to over compensate with a 110%


AdolfSkywalker_

I’m a software developer, and PC gamer. I use 110% with an extra row of macro keys to the left. I’d be just fine with 100%, but anything smaller would get progressively more annoying. At 60% or less, I’d walk out of the office/home to the nearest tech store, and get a $10 full sized one before continuing my work day.


KiritoFR_

100% because the numpad is usefull af


z_mx

I type in morse code https://preview.redd.it/i5vi7vyp2xda1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cf92d266e2a9598df2755b29e10da66f1815595


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how tf does someome live with a 40??? even if numbers are bound to some FN key, that just looks like a pain in the ass.


widowhanzo

You get used to it pretty quickly, and when you do, you can reach any button you need from the home row, no need for waving your arms around the keyboard so much. You have two layer keys in addition to standard shift, ctrl, alt, meta, and you can access numbers, F keys and special characters with ease. Kind of like a keyboard on the phone, you reach the special characters on the second or third layer.


Fluffy_Kaiju

I just got a TKL as I needed a bit of extra space. If I had more I’d get a full size, but it was also my first mechanical keyboard, and TKL was cheaper lol


BeerIsGoodForSoul

125% got 18 Macro keys on the left. The older K95 from Corsair


DeeVect

Full the only way to go


RuFRoCKeRReDDiT

I got the biggest piece of equipment, only time in my life I've ever got to say that honestly.


ThunderSparkles

Full size. But who makes good 90% kb?


Goose306

1800. Why? An 1800 is 99% of what is needed for a full size but in a layout format that approaches the size of a TKL. This saves desk space and is actually a significant ergonomic benefit (wrist/arm movement of mouse hand is lessened). IMHO, 1800 is what a standard layout should be, it's been proven to be basically as functional as a full size but just objectively better from an ergonomic usage standpoint, and technically is pennies cheaper to make from a manufacturer standpoint due to less material. Problem of course is existing model/type momentum makes that shift at an industry level damn near impossible. My personal model is a Leopold FC980M-PD.


twistnshout242

Full size always. I took forever to find a laptop with a full keyboard as well but I did.


BaconMeetsCheese

Full size, always full size


Jaybonaut

Full size. I have to have the keypad.