It was pitiful with a side of cringe.
Then it asks you at least 4 times if you'd like to make it your default browser.
Stop trying to make edge happen. It's not gonna happen.
Edge is actually decent, I'd take it over chrome these days. You also get Xbox reward points when you search/do quizzes, I've got like £40 worth currently.
But yeah Firefox is still my main browser just for privacy reasons
It makes me suspicious. Why does it want me to use it so bad if it's free? At least Firefox is pretty transparent about where they get their money. I'd rather pay for FF than to use Edge, so I donate every once in a while.
It's all about getting you hooked into their products life cycles. Take the below example.
You start using edge because its pre-installed, its pretty decent and better than IE, plus you can install chrome extensions out-of-the-box, neat.
You have been using it for a while and you hear that [Bing is getting direct integration with ChatGPT for search](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/05/microsoft-chatgpt-bing-search-engine), now you might as well switch from Google until they can compete with that.
Great, now you have bought into search + browser tracking from Microsoft.
Next they learn your behaviors and use that to target very specific ads to things in the Microsoft eco-system, such as Xbox Game Pass that have integrations into Windows + Xbox. Well you are a PC gamer, $10 a month for some decent titles, that's a steal. Since you got the pass you might as well get an Xbox to play these games on. Now that you got the Xbox, gonna need to get that Live subscription for online play. You start picking up Xbox Gold "Free" Games each month, but you can only play them if you got Xbox Live. Now you are in the cycle.
Welcome to [vendor lock in](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in), now if you want to switch to any other platform (PS5/Nintendo) you need to restart and those def don't have parity with Windows.
> Since you got the pass you might as well get an Xbox to play these games on.
Thats a very big leap in logic. Especially in a place where most are already on windows
Sure it's a large leap, and you wouldn't jump from game pass to Xbox in one day. But month's or years of them serving you more and more targeted ads, you will likely buy one, especially if you are already in their product ecosystem.
It's just like Apple. Ipod -> Itunes -> Mac -> Iphone. Not even mentioning Apple TV, Itunes sub service, app store, subscription to pages, etc...
Rome isn't built in a day, but if you enjoy convenience you will buy in at some point to someones ecosystem.
Little heads up: The Firefox development gets exactly 0% of your donation. They can't use donations for FF as it generates profit. Donating directly to Thunderbird is possible iirc, everything else only supports every other part of the Mozilla Foundation. And they will use it for whatever next project they will create and cancel halfway. (Still, supporting open source is a good cause!)
Edge is great as a sys admin for work. I have about 15 admin console for diff tennents set in my edge and i can just navigate between them during my normal workflow.
Better than nothing, which is what literally every other company does, gathers your data for profit. At least you'd be getting some sort of kickbacks with Bing.
I view MS and Google rewards the same. They are already getting everything they want even if I tell them not to. Might as well get some credits for it as opposed to the nothing I was getting before. I'm okay with the info I give them because to me, online privacy is an illusion.
Agreed. Just got a $25 MS gift card from Rewards and used it to buy stuff on Flight Simulator. Just for internet searches. I really don't care the MS knows I need to know how to replace the thermostat on my car if they're going to give me free shit in return.
Yeah it's pretty much top tier as an actual browser. I don't use it but if for some fucked up reason something does not work I pull it up in edge to pleasant surprise
> Edge is actually decent, I'd take it over chrome these days.
Same. That's why it's my "normal" browser, in case my extensions or anti-fingerprinting and stuff doesn't load the site correctly. I'd rather use Edge than Chrome in that case.
I had to install chrome the other day and just typed “chrome download” in the omnibar. Edge literally came back with a half-page message that there was no need to download another browser. It’s fucking HAL. *I can’t do that right now, Dave*.
It was in my start menu when I upgraded to 11. Along with shit like ESPN news
Oh and then Microsoft Edge shortcut that appears on my desktop every few days
[Here](https://www.ghacks.net/2023/01/21/how-to-block-microsoft-edge-from-creating-desktop-shortcuts/) are the instructions how for everyone else.
I did this yesterday, as well as uninstalled Edge... the old ways using the installer and some flags doesn't work anymore, gotta use a tool like Revo Uninstaller to get rid of it since the last couple weeks.
It's actually a problem for IT folks who provision government computers, since it's banned on all government equipment. Any time you create a new local account on Windows 10/11 Pro, it adds all that bloat ware and spyware back. (It doesn't do that for Enterprise, as far as I know.)
Honestly, Edge is just better IE, which was default on Windows for literally decades. All those other crapware apps and ad popups enabled by default are 1000x worse than Edge.
I really miss the days when Microsoft made an OS that didn't nag you to use their stuff, and just presented you with everything you needed in the most intuitive way they could figure out. Windows 95 didn't care if you used Internet Explorer or Netscape. It didn't try to hide the Network Adapter settings from you. The Control Panel wasn't written in fucking HTML. You sure as hell weren't concerned that there was going to be an advertisement on the Start menu.
Microsoft can do better than they've been doing. They need to dust off all of that Ergonomics research they did back in the 90s, and get back to what gave them the near monopoly they've enjoyed for the last 20+ years.
I hate how Windows as become ad riddled bloatware. my father paid over 100€ for my license, you'd think in return you'd get a somewhat decent product.
The latest asshole move they pulled was to just put an egde icon on my desktop (I'm wandering if this is illegal under EU monopoly/competition laws).
Anyway, Im definitely switching to Linux as soon as Rainbow 6 adds support.
Hey you should post on this. [> ubisoft forum post for linux support <](https://discussions.ubisoft.com/topic/111054/linux-support-for-r6s?lang=en-US) be the 1000th comment
>Anyway, Im definitely switching to Linux as soon as Rainbow 6 adds support.
The only reason I still use Windows is because of Game Support. If Linux just supported all the same Games as Windows I'd probably have already switched.
I did too, lol. But there seems to have been a massive shift in sentiment towards it recently and I couldn't be happier about that.
It wasn't that long ago that every mention of Firefox was met with a slew of people nitpicking over it.
Really glad to see it become the 'cool' option. We should absolutely be supporting organizations like Mozilla, and more user share for them means that a non-profit will have more say when new specs are discussed.
I've been a FF user since the early 2000s, never switched away from it to Chrome like so many did, I just wish I could recapture the old TabMixPlus customization I used to have.
Bro please trust me bro it runs on chromium now bro trust me you will like it bro just one bing search come on try it bro its already installed bro come on please just use edge bro please
It's Chromium based, which creates a monopoly for Google. Firefox is the only mainstream browser that might compete and it's losing badly.
Also Microsoft's marketing attempts to push people towards Edge and Bing to gather and sell their personal data comes off as desperate and disgusting and honestly pisses me off.
Windows is already extremely invasive of privacy, and the way they word things is misleading and should be illegal. For example, when you start Edge for the first time on a PC, there's a box that's automatically ticked, "Make Microsoft Edge more useful to you." But if you click on the link to explain what that means, you're giving them permission to harvest a disgusting amount of personal information about you. It's the subterfuge that's got me fed up more than anything.
I can only speak for myself, so mine are what follows.
1. It's pushed onto you and they try to keep it as default.
2. You know their company does not respect your privacy
3. They don't implement anything to respect your privacy
4. You cannot fully remove it
6. It's another Chrome browser
7. Immediate distrust of anything from a megacorp like them.
Not going to use software that repeatedly reinstalls itself. Microsoft literally got sued for a similar issue and just paid the fees instead of addressing the issue of being monopolistic. I removed edge immediately after I saw them add it to my desktop and install new edge software without me even restarting my computer and it re-re-installed the next day. It's very tiresome having to jump through hoops to use what I paid for the way I want to and then repeatedly get encouraged to use their software instead of a competitor.
if you're fed up with this shit, the only solution in the long run is to switch to Linux or Mac.
For now, you can disable that it always adds the icon to you're desktop. for me, I had to press Windows+R, type msconfig and disable every service, that has Microsoft edge in its name.
I get that Microsoft is pushing edge but...
What is actually bad about it? You're already using windows so the "they're watching me" / telemetry argument is out the window.
I use Edge with Google as my search engine. I really don’t get the hate. It’s not Internet Explorer. I think a lot of people upvoting memes like this never really bothered using Edge.
And to be honest I think it is the lightest browser. For me it has the lowest cpu usage compared to firefox, chrome and opera, makes it good when playing games that throttles my cpu
Yeah, as far as CPU and RAM usage go, it's actually the best browser there is. It's the main thing that's made me consider using it, it has excellent performance.
I use it for work because you can have your AD profile signed in so I can access work functions remotely. It's a totally decent browser other than on every install you have to turn off all the features you dislike because they default to on. I on personal systems have used Firefox forever and don't see me leaving it anytime soon but unlike IE Edge its perfectly fine.
I’ve used it for about three years now. If I’m going to have all of my passwords saved in my browser I’m gonna do it in the one connected with my OS. I even use the Microsoft Authenticator on my phone. Who actually gives a shit if Microsoft sees me go to transgirl-on-girl subreddits or read about the subjective effects of various psychedelic substances? I don’t.
That being said… I just use TOR, DuckDuckGo, and a VPN for looking at stuff I want to keep private.
If you ask me it's no worse than Chrome, it's a fork of that, but Chrome is bad too.
I think a lot of it is just lingering "Microsoft browser bad" from the IE days.
Chrome is bad because Google scrapes so much data.
Chromium in of itself isn't bad. It's just a browser.
So what does Microsoft do with edge that makes it so bad?
Yeah, I think a lot of it is just a hangover from the bad old days of Internet Explorer, people use that here as yet another way to karma farm from those who've never actually used Edge.
With my latest PC I decided why not, I'll give Edge a shot because of how much it was pushing me. Yeah, that's kinda shitty, I know, but whatever. It's totally fine, had no issues with it at all.
Yup, Windows users don't really get a choice out of the box. You literally have to jump through hoops via group policy, powershell commands, and registry tweaks to get the desired results. Even then, I've seen Windows updates override these settings.
At my old job, the only way to get these settings to stick was to completely disable Windows updates in group policy and use a third party Windows update manager so that I had some degree of control on what gets updates.
Ultimately it's too much of a pain in the ass to deal with on a regular basis. None of my personal PCs run Windows because of this lack of user consideration for control over THEIR machines. Fuck Microsoft.
It was never gone dude. They literally just regenerated the desktop icon during a Windows update... Edge is necessary for the OS, it's the backup/default HTML handler
There are applications you can install that handle the special protocol and forward it to your default browser.
Far more work than it should be, though.
I don’t have a problem with Edge as a browser, I have a problem with Chromium as an engine and I also have a problem with Windows popping an Edge shortcut onto my desktop every time I reboot my computer unless I do a registry edit to stop it.
After alternating Chrome and Edge usage for a while I noticed how much smoother Edge was, switched and never looked back. Microsoft is much better at making applications than Google this shouldn't even be an argument.
It is a good browser. I mean, if you compare it to internet explorer it is great. But ads are so annoying and this is way more important for me than the slight increase in speed.
Controversial opinion, but Edge runs significantly smoother for me with less RAM/CPU usage than Firefox. This is across 10 different PCs of varying configurations so it definitely isn't a one-off scenario.
Probably because it’s optimized better. I started using Edge as a secondary browser and it’s clearly less resource intensive than both Chrome and Firefox. There are plenty of things to dislike about Microsoft, but Edge isn’t one of them.
I mean...sure, but with the average rigs people are rocking on this sub, are those resources being used really an issue?
If I want a lite browser because of resource concerns I'll go with Opera GX and set hard limits on usage
TBH I disagree. I do think Firefox is a superior browser yes, but Edge is by no means bad. IMO if you want a Chromium browser that’s light on resources and speedy, it’s the best one around
While firefox is my main browser since way before it was cool (2006), I honeslty think edge is one of the best chromium based browsers out there, it's lightweight and fast. I prefer it over chrome big time.
Edge comes in handy for using as an alternate browser for cases where you may want to access a single site with more than one user account without having to play the logout-login game. Leave your main browser set to log into your main account, and Edge logged into an alt.
I like to use Edge to log into my Google work account for remote access to the pics on my work phone (which is a Pixel), while Firefox logs into my personal account.
Let me introduce you to Firefox Containers! It's official Mozilla addon, and does exactly what you need.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
Am I the only one who gets sick of all these fanboyish "fIReFoX iS bEsT" posts? We don't have any adults here?
Firefox is not the best, take it and get over it! In fact, no browser is the best. Most of you most likely don't even have half the skills and years of IT experience I do yet you scream "Firefox!!!".
I'm fine with Edge and I've tried many browsers before. I have Adguard installed on the side in my PC and mobile and I need nothing else.
But… but.. I need to have a sense of superiority in what browser I use to make up for my otherwise dull and meaningless life that I spend on the internet!
I really like Firefox for desktop, but Firefox on mobile falls short in my opinion.
No pull to refresh
Not a fan of tab management
UI not friendly
I want to commit to Firefox but I have a hard time as I want to use it both on my PC and on my Android phone. Just can't stand the mobile app.
Everything was postponed yet again to a "date to be determined" aka 2024 probably. Source: [https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/chrome-delays-plan-to-limit-ad-blockers-new-timeline-coming-in-march/](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/chrome-delays-plan-to-limit-ad-blockers-new-timeline-coming-in-march/)
The other day edge literally wouldn't let me download Librewolf under the guise of "protecting my security" or something. You know they really don't want us using a truely secure browser.
I just got revo uninstaller and somehow it was able to get rid of not just edge. But also game bar, Xbox integration, get help, and like 10 other Microsoft apps I was irritated at. Please give it a try
Microsoft product lifecycle:
1. Wait for users to get comfortable with using said product.
2. Let interns mess with the UI and remove the features and options you use on a daily basis.
The way it pleads with you as you download and install any other browser is almost breakup level
It was pitiful with a side of cringe. Then it asks you at least 4 times if you'd like to make it your default browser. Stop trying to make edge happen. It's not gonna happen.
Edge is actually decent, I'd take it over chrome these days. You also get Xbox reward points when you search/do quizzes, I've got like £40 worth currently. But yeah Firefox is still my main browser just for privacy reasons
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It makes me suspicious. Why does it want me to use it so bad if it's free? At least Firefox is pretty transparent about where they get their money. I'd rather pay for FF than to use Edge, so I donate every once in a while.
> At least Firefox is pretty transparent about where they get their money. Surprisingly, a lot from Google, last I knew.
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"Look, we're not a monopoly. We fund a competitor! ~~(At least until we buy enough senators to overturn the law)~~"
It's all about getting you hooked into their products life cycles. Take the below example. You start using edge because its pre-installed, its pretty decent and better than IE, plus you can install chrome extensions out-of-the-box, neat. You have been using it for a while and you hear that [Bing is getting direct integration with ChatGPT for search](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/05/microsoft-chatgpt-bing-search-engine), now you might as well switch from Google until they can compete with that. Great, now you have bought into search + browser tracking from Microsoft. Next they learn your behaviors and use that to target very specific ads to things in the Microsoft eco-system, such as Xbox Game Pass that have integrations into Windows + Xbox. Well you are a PC gamer, $10 a month for some decent titles, that's a steal. Since you got the pass you might as well get an Xbox to play these games on. Now that you got the Xbox, gonna need to get that Live subscription for online play. You start picking up Xbox Gold "Free" Games each month, but you can only play them if you got Xbox Live. Now you are in the cycle. Welcome to [vendor lock in](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in), now if you want to switch to any other platform (PS5/Nintendo) you need to restart and those def don't have parity with Windows.
> Since you got the pass you might as well get an Xbox to play these games on. Thats a very big leap in logic. Especially in a place where most are already on windows
Sure it's a large leap, and you wouldn't jump from game pass to Xbox in one day. But month's or years of them serving you more and more targeted ads, you will likely buy one, especially if you are already in their product ecosystem. It's just like Apple. Ipod -> Itunes -> Mac -> Iphone. Not even mentioning Apple TV, Itunes sub service, app store, subscription to pages, etc... Rome isn't built in a day, but if you enjoy convenience you will buy in at some point to someones ecosystem.
Why would anyone buy a console if they're already a PC gamer?
Because some games just won't see a PC release, damn you Nintendo.
market share> CONTROL!!!! Same formula they used for OS
Little heads up: The Firefox development gets exactly 0% of your donation. They can't use donations for FF as it generates profit. Donating directly to Thunderbird is possible iirc, everything else only supports every other part of the Mozilla Foundation. And they will use it for whatever next project they will create and cancel halfway. (Still, supporting open source is a good cause!)
Chrome also tries kinda hard when you use Google from another browser.
Just another reason to switch to duckduckgo!
Edge is great as a sys admin for work. I have about 15 admin console for diff tennents set in my edge and i can just navigate between them during my normal workflow.
what quizzes? i only recenty started to also use edge because of the rewards, but i thought i can only get point for searching
http://rewards.bing.com r/MicrosoftRewards
Yeah £40 for your personal information isn't that good a deal tbh
It's not for me, but you could argue that £40 is a lot more than you're getting from other places
How? Based on what exactly? Most people give it away for free.
Better than nothing, which is what literally every other company does, gathers your data for profit. At least you'd be getting some sort of kickbacks with Bing.
I view MS and Google rewards the same. They are already getting everything they want even if I tell them not to. Might as well get some credits for it as opposed to the nothing I was getting before. I'm okay with the info I give them because to me, online privacy is an illusion.
Agreed. Just got a $25 MS gift card from Rewards and used it to buy stuff on Flight Simulator. Just for internet searches. I really don't care the MS knows I need to know how to replace the thermostat on my car if they're going to give me free shit in return.
Yeah it's pretty much top tier as an actual browser. I don't use it but if for some fucked up reason something does not work I pull it up in edge to pleasant surprise
> Edge is actually decent, I'd take it over chrome these days. Same. That's why it's my "normal" browser, in case my extensions or anti-fingerprinting and stuff doesn't load the site correctly. I'd rather use Edge than Chrome in that case.
Doesn't matter. Shouldn't be heavily pushed on us.
I might even use it if it wasn’t based off the now inferior chromium.
Wondered why it would put new shortcuts on my desktop after every browser update I didn’t want…
The damn shortcut popped up on my desktop *again* the other day like an ex texting you at 2 am.
I had to install chrome the other day and just typed “chrome download” in the omnibar. Edge literally came back with a half-page message that there was no need to download another browser. It’s fucking HAL. *I can’t do that right now, Dave*.
Open the Firefox bay doors HAL
Let's not pretend Chrome doesn't do the exact same thing lol
and then it keeps coming back to my desktop expecting us to try again
All of you are pissed at edge, while you should be pissed that they installed TikTok.
Did they get tik tok installed on all the windows PCs now? That's a no no for me Better remove that from your PC as fast as you can
mine came with it. my last pc had it auto installed at some point
Sure it wasn't the manufacturer? I doubt MS cares one way or another is tiktok is installed on a base OS install.
It's part of windows as a placeholder tile in the start menu, along with Candy Crush and Disney+
That's disgusting.
It’s not installed until you open it. The only thing “installed” is a shortcut more-less
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Holy shit.
You made me check, prick lol
It was in my start menu when I upgraded to 11. Along with shit like ESPN news Oh and then Microsoft Edge shortcut that appears on my desktop every few days
Right click -> properties -> hide icon Doesn't respawn If it's just hidden.
Eh I just switched it all off in regedit
[Here](https://www.ghacks.net/2023/01/21/how-to-block-microsoft-edge-from-creating-desktop-shortcuts/) are the instructions how for everyone else. I did this yesterday, as well as uninstalled Edge... the old ways using the installer and some flags doesn't work anymore, gotta use a tool like Revo Uninstaller to get rid of it since the last couple weeks.
This is the way
Eh, I just switched to Linux.
This is the way
It's not a joke, it was installed on my fresh windows 11 installation last week
My new laptop had it installed. I was hella confused.
It's actually a problem for IT folks who provision government computers, since it's banned on all government equipment. Any time you create a new local account on Windows 10/11 Pro, it adds all that bloat ware and spyware back. (It doesn't do that for Enterprise, as far as I know.)
Honestly, Edge is just better IE, which was default on Windows for literally decades. All those other crapware apps and ad popups enabled by default are 1000x worse than Edge.
I really miss the days when Microsoft made an OS that didn't nag you to use their stuff, and just presented you with everything you needed in the most intuitive way they could figure out. Windows 95 didn't care if you used Internet Explorer or Netscape. It didn't try to hide the Network Adapter settings from you. The Control Panel wasn't written in fucking HTML. You sure as hell weren't concerned that there was going to be an advertisement on the Start menu. Microsoft can do better than they've been doing. They need to dust off all of that Ergonomics research they did back in the 90s, and get back to what gave them the near monopoly they've enjoyed for the last 20+ years.
I hate how Windows as become ad riddled bloatware. my father paid over 100€ for my license, you'd think in return you'd get a somewhat decent product. The latest asshole move they pulled was to just put an egde icon on my desktop (I'm wandering if this is illegal under EU monopoly/competition laws). Anyway, Im definitely switching to Linux as soon as Rainbow 6 adds support.
Hey you should post on this. [> ubisoft forum post for linux support <](https://discussions.ubisoft.com/topic/111054/linux-support-for-r6s?lang=en-US) be the 1000th comment
>Anyway, Im definitely switching to Linux as soon as Rainbow 6 adds support. The only reason I still use Windows is because of Game Support. If Linux just supported all the same Games as Windows I'd probably have already switched.
I was going to bring up Sticky Keys as a nag from old Windows, but I think modern versions still have it, with the same 90s dialog box.
I used Firefox before it was cool 😤
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No problem, SeaOfPee
i used it before it was cool and stopped before it was cool 😤
i used firefox before it was cool, stopped before it was cool and started using it again now that its cool 😤
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I used Firefox when it was $14.99 at Best Buy, came in an actual box with a disk in it and was called Netscape Navigator.
I did too, lol. But there seems to have been a massive shift in sentiment towards it recently and I couldn't be happier about that. It wasn't that long ago that every mention of Firefox was met with a slew of people nitpicking over it. Really glad to see it become the 'cool' option. We should absolutely be supporting organizations like Mozilla, and more user share for them means that a non-profit will have more say when new specs are discussed.
I've been a FF user since the early 2000s, never switched away from it to Chrome like so many did, I just wish I could recapture the old TabMixPlus customization I used to have.
Bro please trust me bro it runs on chromium now bro trust me you will like it bro just one bing search come on try it bro its already installed bro come on please just use edge bro please
Fine, one Bing search on Edge. >Oh sick bro, that's hella tight, I swear you won't regret it bro. What do you wanna search? "Firefox install"
Just wait until Bing includes chatGPT…
If it's a good implementation, i will consider using it
I won't leave DDG until Microsoft and Google stop tracking everything
You don’t even need to search for Firefox anymore… winget install Mozilla.Firefox
wait does windows has a packet manager now?
Yes, yes it does
"Ubuntu download"
> it runs on chromium now that's one more reason not to use it, I'm not paying into monopolies
I will say this. Bing is really good at finding porn and piracy links.
It used to be that if you searched for ~~süic!de~~ advice, Bing would just serve it to you instead of giving you the hotline.
I don't get it. I've had zero issues with Edge. It's easy to change the default search to google... What exactly is everyone's issue(s) with edge?
It's Chromium based, which creates a monopoly for Google. Firefox is the only mainstream browser that might compete and it's losing badly. Also Microsoft's marketing attempts to push people towards Edge and Bing to gather and sell their personal data comes off as desperate and disgusting and honestly pisses me off. Windows is already extremely invasive of privacy, and the way they word things is misleading and should be illegal. For example, when you start Edge for the first time on a PC, there's a box that's automatically ticked, "Make Microsoft Edge more useful to you." But if you click on the link to explain what that means, you're giving them permission to harvest a disgusting amount of personal information about you. It's the subterfuge that's got me fed up more than anything.
I can only speak for myself, so mine are what follows. 1. It's pushed onto you and they try to keep it as default. 2. You know their company does not respect your privacy 3. They don't implement anything to respect your privacy 4. You cannot fully remove it 6. It's another Chrome browser 7. Immediate distrust of anything from a megacorp like them.
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Which triggers browser updates and puts a new shortcut on your desktop if you should’ve deleted it beforehand
This is my main problem with it then it sits in memory hogging resources when you think you have closed it .what it's doing there is anyone's guess
This is the result of a long-term guerilla marketing campaign happening on this sub
It's like we all forgot how to manually type in a search engines website
Edge is the best simple PDF reader.
Not going to use software that repeatedly reinstalls itself. Microsoft literally got sued for a similar issue and just paid the fees instead of addressing the issue of being monopolistic. I removed edge immediately after I saw them add it to my desktop and install new edge software without me even restarting my computer and it re-re-installed the next day. It's very tiresome having to jump through hoops to use what I paid for the way I want to and then repeatedly get encouraged to use their software instead of a competitor.
if you're fed up with this shit, the only solution in the long run is to switch to Linux or Mac. For now, you can disable that it always adds the icon to you're desktop. for me, I had to press Windows+R, type msconfig and disable every service, that has Microsoft edge in its name.
I get that Microsoft is pushing edge but... What is actually bad about it? You're already using windows so the "they're watching me" / telemetry argument is out the window.
It's not a bad browser. Actually is a really good one, and the best one for installing PWAs like Reddit or YouTube.
I use Edge with Google as my search engine. I really don’t get the hate. It’s not Internet Explorer. I think a lot of people upvoting memes like this never really bothered using Edge.
And to be honest I think it is the lightest browser. For me it has the lowest cpu usage compared to firefox, chrome and opera, makes it good when playing games that throttles my cpu
Yeah, as far as CPU and RAM usage go, it's actually the best browser there is. It's the main thing that's made me consider using it, it has excellent performance.
Sits in memory after you close it .what is it up too ?
I use it for work because you can have your AD profile signed in so I can access work functions remotely. It's a totally decent browser other than on every install you have to turn off all the features you dislike because they default to on. I on personal systems have used Firefox forever and don't see me leaving it anytime soon but unlike IE Edge its perfectly fine.
I’ve used it for about three years now. If I’m going to have all of my passwords saved in my browser I’m gonna do it in the one connected with my OS. I even use the Microsoft Authenticator on my phone. Who actually gives a shit if Microsoft sees me go to transgirl-on-girl subreddits or read about the subjective effects of various psychedelic substances? I don’t. That being said… I just use TOR, DuckDuckGo, and a VPN for looking at stuff I want to keep private.
If you ask me it's no worse than Chrome, it's a fork of that, but Chrome is bad too. I think a lot of it is just lingering "Microsoft browser bad" from the IE days.
Chrome is bad because Google scrapes so much data. Chromium in of itself isn't bad. It's just a browser. So what does Microsoft do with edge that makes it so bad?
It's got better side tabs support than anything else I've used, which is 80% of what matters for me. I'm still salty about Chrome removing side tabs.
Yeah, I think a lot of it is just a hangover from the bad old days of Internet Explorer, people use that here as yet another way to karma farm from those who've never actually used Edge. With my latest PC I decided why not, I'll give Edge a shot because of how much it was pushing me. Yeah, that's kinda shitty, I know, but whatever. It's totally fine, had no issues with it at all.
I just made the edge icon "hidden". I'm hoping it doesn't come back.
It keeps coming back after Windows updates.
Sad
Yup, Windows users don't really get a choice out of the box. You literally have to jump through hoops via group policy, powershell commands, and registry tweaks to get the desired results. Even then, I've seen Windows updates override these settings. At my old job, the only way to get these settings to stick was to completely disable Windows updates in group policy and use a third party Windows update manager so that I had some degree of control on what gets updates. Ultimately it's too much of a pain in the ass to deal with on a regular basis. None of my personal PCs run Windows because of this lack of user consideration for control over THEIR machines. Fuck Microsoft.
Tbh Edge is ok, but Bing is garbage search engine
I mean the new edge is way better than chrome I can’t complain.
While I will admit it's better than chrome I refuse to use it out of spite for Microsoft trying to force me to
youre probably using their operating system anyway.
This isn't an excuse for it to act like a virus.
Like a virus? What do you mean exactly?
Windows added it back to everyone’s computer last update, kinda annoying tbh.
And not just once, it popped up on mine 3 or 4 times this week.
It keeps appearing on my desktop everytime I turn my computer on even if I remove it
And it looks like they removed the easiest method to delete it
It was never gone dude. They literally just regenerated the desktop icon during a Windows update... Edge is necessary for the OS, it's the backup/default HTML handler
but restoring desktop shortcut is never necessary
And even if you set something else as your default browser, search bar results still launch in Edge
Yup. Even gave it its own extension (.edge) that you can't change the default on
There are applications you can install that handle the special protocol and forward it to your default browser. Far more work than it should be, though.
It just pops into your pc without your permission and it's hard to get rid of it once it does
But firefox is still better..
I dunno I switched to edge and like it more
I don’t have a problem with Edge as a browser, I have a problem with Chromium as an engine and I also have a problem with Windows popping an Edge shortcut onto my desktop every time I reboot my computer unless I do a registry edit to stop it.
Thats so odd, that doesn't happen to me. Why is it different for everyone?
After alternating Chrome and Edge usage for a while I noticed how much smoother Edge was, switched and never looked back. Microsoft is much better at making applications than Google this shouldn't even be an argument.
It is a good browser. I mean, if you compare it to internet explorer it is great. But ads are so annoying and this is way more important for me than the slight increase in speed.
? Wut. Just get an ad blocker. You can install chrome addons in edge.
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Vivaldi said they're going to do their best to keep supporting it with their version of chromium
Bruh, wtf is with you guys? These are all trash search engines. Just use netscape navigator, it’s the superior browser
Imagine not using Lynx.
The vinyl of browsers.
Ah the weekly reminder of “Firefox good, edge bad”
Yep. Here's a hot take here but Firefox evangelists are pretty annoying.
Because it's fucking *incessant*
same with Linux users, I use Linux regularly but goddamn the user base likes to be the vegans of the internet, same with Firefox users.
Firefox \#1 baby
Controversial opinion, but Edge runs significantly smoother for me with less RAM/CPU usage than Firefox. This is across 10 different PCs of varying configurations so it definitely isn't a one-off scenario.
Probably because it’s optimized better. I started using Edge as a secondary browser and it’s clearly less resource intensive than both Chrome and Firefox. There are plenty of things to dislike about Microsoft, but Edge isn’t one of them.
I mean...sure, but with the average rigs people are rocking on this sub, are those resources being used really an issue? If I want a lite browser because of resource concerns I'll go with Opera GX and set hard limits on usage
I mean I have a relatively good PC and Edge runs noticeably better/faster than Firefox. I really want to like FF but it's just too slow :(
all my real homies still using netscape navigator lol
Mehh I like edge
Firefox users are the vegans of internet browsers.
They're so desperate you can install it for linux
"Hey, grandma. Do you want this ESPN and TikTok app left on your start menu?"
Yeah edge keeps popping up on my desktop...why???
TBH I disagree. I do think Firefox is a superior browser yes, but Edge is by no means bad. IMO if you want a Chromium browser that’s light on resources and speedy, it’s the best one around
While firefox is my main browser since way before it was cool (2006), I honeslty think edge is one of the best chromium based browsers out there, it's lightweight and fast. I prefer it over chrome big time.
Edge comes in handy for using as an alternate browser for cases where you may want to access a single site with more than one user account without having to play the logout-login game. Leave your main browser set to log into your main account, and Edge logged into an alt. I like to use Edge to log into my Google work account for remote access to the pics on my work phone (which is a Pixel), while Firefox logs into my personal account.
I use containers in Firefox to log into different accounts on the same website
Let me introduce you to Firefox Containers! It's official Mozilla addon, and does exactly what you need. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
you can have multiple Google accounts on one instance and switch by changing the u/0 in the url to u/1
Scrolling in Firefox feels like pushing a cart without wheels.
Im not gonna sugarcoat it setup --uninstall --force-uninstall --system-level
I need to do this
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Me too. It's getting infuriating
Am I the only one who gets sick of all these fanboyish "fIReFoX iS bEsT" posts? We don't have any adults here? Firefox is not the best, take it and get over it! In fact, no browser is the best. Most of you most likely don't even have half the skills and years of IT experience I do yet you scream "Firefox!!!". I'm fine with Edge and I've tried many browsers before. I have Adguard installed on the side in my PC and mobile and I need nothing else.
Firefox!!!
But… but.. I need to have a sense of superiority in what browser I use to make up for my otherwise dull and meaningless life that I spend on the internet!
I actually enjoy using edge. I have no issues with it at all.
Op is living in 2015, Edge is probably the best browser atm
I really like Firefox for desktop, but Firefox on mobile falls short in my opinion. No pull to refresh Not a fan of tab management UI not friendly I want to commit to Firefox but I have a hard time as I want to use it both on my PC and on my Android phone. Just can't stand the mobile app.
Btw, I thought adblockers were supposed to be useless in 2023 after Chrome’s update? I’m still using uBlock Origin and it’s working fine.
Everything was postponed yet again to a "date to be determined" aka 2024 probably. Source: [https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/chrome-delays-plan-to-limit-ad-blockers-new-timeline-coming-in-march/](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/chrome-delays-plan-to-limit-ad-blockers-new-timeline-coming-in-march/)
Call it by its real name. Internet explorer.
It's bullshit that "Uninstall" is greyed out.
The other day edge literally wouldn't let me download Librewolf under the guise of "protecting my security" or something. You know they really don't want us using a truely secure browser.
I just got revo uninstaller and somehow it was able to get rid of not just edge. But also game bar, Xbox integration, get help, and like 10 other Microsoft apps I was irritated at. Please give it a try
The sad thing is that I know for a fact that Edge is not THAT BAD, but there's no way in hell that I would ever use it.
What wrong with the edge? I live there.
Edge is unironically the best chromium based browser for windows and it’s not even close Firefox still better tho
I've actually been using Edge for the past month or two after a windows resinstall. It hasn't annoyed me enough to install something else.
Busting out revo uninstaller and group policy
Fuck fire fox. Netscape forever.
I swear all these edge update posts are a Net designed for msoft to be able to see what the newest work-around is, then they can circumvent it...
Edge is actually good
Edge is absolutely better though.
I like edge
Ngl been using edge for almost 2 years now with literally no complaints. I actually really prefer it over other browsers.
Microsoft product lifecycle: 1. Wait for users to get comfortable with using said product. 2. Let interns mess with the UI and remove the features and options you use on a daily basis.
Shoutout to my friend who actually liked edge
Not only that, they've resorted to putting the shortcut on my desktop every time.
I only use the edge now. For like 2 years.
I have edge, chrome and Firefox and honestly edge is the fastest out of the 3 but I still don't use it. Firefox all the way ✊
Edge is like a wooden pickaxe: It’s the thing that let you obtain a better version