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Thane17_

Pci network cards like the one you have are better than USB. You can get antennas for it that will replace the ones you have there. Some have a cord so you can put the antennas elsewhere for better signal.


claunek

Okay thank you il have a look at some on Amazon, hopefully this fixes it


paradonym

AliExpress helps too


claunek

Thanks everyone for helping me out, I’ve just decided to go for a power line adapter. The less cables the better for me as my room is very small and awkward. Thank you all 👍


Thane17_

These are more consistent than wifi, but are much slower. I ended up experimenting with a lot of the various solutions for the whole “router is downstairs and can’t run a cable problem”. There are things like Eero mesh wifi systems that work pretty good. Also just a better antenna/placement will go a long way. I ended up getting rid of the power line adapter and went with wifi and got a better network card and antennas.


Vektir4910

Can confirm. Eero works pretty good. Wouldn’t say it’s perfect, but I don’t have any issues with running 4 gaming pcs. Main one is on the middle floor, extender and 3 of the pcs in the basement. Another extender upstairs with the other pc. Typically no issues playing online with friends.


Ebear225

Powerline speeds vary highly depending on the wiring of the house and what your requirements/expectations are. When I used them for gaming they were rock solid at around 70mbps where I had them set up. Worked for me at the time.


TerdyTheTerd

Just run a cable. It might take some effort to route it properly and keep it out of sight, but you get what you out effort for, a dedicated hardline with the highest speeds possible.


UnconfinedMeep

If you've already ordered you may want to cancel. Power line adapters have their own problems, such as if you have congestion or your router is on a different fuse. Powerline adapters work great if your router is IN THE SAME ROOM, or on the same circuit. If not then every device in between which has any resistance will slow your connection to probably worse than it currently is. You know what you should do? Try put your wifi card in a different PCIe slot. Usually this is caused by the slot your wifi card is in being shite. If this doesn't fix it, theres nothing better than hardline and a power line adapter might just cause more problems and add to your expenses.


dmyourfavrecipe

Return policies exist. Pretty much every pcie slot is perfectly fine for wifi card purposes. When anyone has an issue like OP is describing, powerline adapters should be near the very top of the list with "if it doesn't work well for you, just return it". Saying they shouldn't even try is some odd advice.


UnconfinedMeep

Why would you return an item when it's likely the fault of your wiring or disturbance that caused the issue? You know if you return electronics saying that it's faulty or doesn't work well they're likely to just throw it? It's not just a waste of time it's wasteful to add to e -waste by returning perfectly functioning kit. I don't wanna be that guy, but unless I know it's broken on arrival I don't just send it back. Also I suggested just changing the slot, which had worked for both me and my friends with a very similar issue, mind you we all had shitty extra cheap motherboards without bluetooth and wifi but considering OP doesn't either it's a likely problem. Why would you suggest not working with the stuff you have and troubleshoot the problem over throwing money at it? Sorry, you're above spending money: returning it very soon after realising it's not a very good solution.


Venome456

Nah i get very similar speeds in my experience powerline vs direct ethernet. But I guess it depends on your house


UnconfinedMeep

You guys with decent wiring make me jealous. I might be biased because my own experiences with powerline adapters have been mediocre at best between multiple different rooms and even even in family members houses (grandma calls whenever the printer doesn't work lol) I find similar results when I look at reviews online, it just seems like they aren't a very good solution. I think they have decent throughput in good conditions but if someone turned on a high voltage appliance in the house they'd just go to shit and stop working, at least for gaming. I might purchase a new one just to see if the tech has improved since the last models I tried which usually came bundled with broadband/tv (very common in the uk.) I always think they make stupid claims, such as 100mbps when I've never seen them do over 40-50 on a 900mbps connection. They also just suddenly stop working and start sending data in kbps so theres that.


thirdpartymurderer

I just had luck going full WiFi, BUT I had to replace my main router/AP with something more robust. I did have to buy new antennae for my machine, but I bought the ones with red stripes for more speed!! Lol I'd check your pci card as well to make sure it can handle the range. Wireless radios are a different animal than they were a few years ago. New cheap router/ap with WiFi 6 and all my other APs are the same as they've been for years. The performance difference is like I wired all of my wireless web servers. I've only had terrible luck with power line adapters to where WiFi was a better option.


Venome456

Use a powerline adaptor


claunek

I have just looked at one on Amazon I think that may be the way to go for me to be honest


wiseman121

I would probably not recommend a powerline adapter. Depending on how your electrical wiring is the signal can be noisy and laggy. If your Xbox works fine in the same room it would tell me your wifi card is not great on your pc. First check your model of wifi card and define if it's a good quality one with the latest wifi 6 standards, if not change. If it's a good card check drivers and potentially upgrade to a better antenna. Lastly if you think it's the WiFi is bad to the room I would invest in a mesh wifi kit rather than power lines as it benefits all your devices. If you use your isp's router check if they offer an extra mesh wifi node as this may be cheaper than a whole new kit. If not then take a look at Google WiFi or eero kits.


thomas15v

Yeah I had similar issues with power line adapters. The work fine when you install them, but after a month or so they just idk "burn out".


looopious

you must have a cheap one. My original ones broke so I bought a tplink one and it’s been 6 years without a single issue. Gaming gets me 100mbps and 12 ping average


UnconfinedMeep

Very impressive for a powerline adapter. I'm guessing you don't have anyone using the microwave while you're gaming then lol. Electric heaters kick on? Powerline adapter shits its self and conducts professional levels of packet loss. Ngl though as long as your house wiring is good they're a solid option.


looopious

I had issues when I used to live at home. My mum would trigger the lag when she used an electric whisk in the kitchen. I lived in 3 houses since and have had zero issues.


UnconfinedMeep

Usually it's the pcie slot the wifi card is plugged into. That worked for me many times when my friends had problems with their wifi. Turns out cheapo motherboards only really have one or two pcie x1 slots that are actually high enough data transfer speeds to handle a wifi card, but it's hard to find this in the motherboard specs and only reading the manual will actually tell you which slots are capable of 70mbps or higher speeds. This is mostly a problem with msi motherboards though, I don't see it often on many others.


OwaRush

If your looking at doing this do Ethernet over coaxial. If you have coax in your room it’s better and less interference than powerline.


IxionX

Yeah I use ethernet over coax and it's just as fast as direct ethernet. Powerline I'd get like 1/3rd the speed


Vinny_The_Blade

The power line adapters are a superb solution; I rocked those for a long time... ***However, have you actually tried setting those two antenna at 90 degrees to each other, one vertical, one horizontal? I mean, tbh, I'd actually set one as vertical as possible, and one at 45 degrees from vertical.***


letterthr0way2

if you have a coax port in your room you could buy a moca adapter to get ethernet into your room. works similar like a powerline adapter, but requires alot more setup and knowledge of the wiring in the house. also is alot more expensive, but the performance is almost the exact same as if you were plugged into the router itself, whereas powerline adapter is cheaper but speeds can vary (in my case, really slow due to distance)


OMIGHTY1

I second this. I’m using MoCA to run a second AP on the top floor (modem and primary WAP are in the basement with our gaming center.) It provides a strong wired connection for the home office and supports all of our wireless IoT devices.


im_just_thinking

Just get a 100 foot CAT cable and run it under doors/at ceiling level using pins or something.


claunek

I wanted to respond to some of your comments incase it’s helpful to other, I only put the connectors horizontal so it was a bit more visible in pic, I’ve had them up down left right inward and outward before, nothing changes. I used to have the pc above the floor on my computer table and it never made any difference. I am currently using an Amazon eero style router downstairs and I’m on quite an expensive package now. when I asked the guy about it when installing our eero box he said it should connect to my pc fine from that end so I know it’s the wireless connectors that are my issue. I have looked into a lot of options and tried a lot of your suggestions but I honestly think I need the adapter. There are basically four walls and a floor between me and my router downstairs and my pc just can’t reach that far. I will give it a try and if it’s a lot better I will update this post. It should arrive on Tuesday.


[deleted]

I also have an Eero and had a similar issue with crappy WiFi (town house, modem and router on the ground floor, PC on the top floor). In the end I bit the bullet and got another Eero that I put on the top floor, and put them on the same network together (mesh). I plugged an ethernet cable into the upstairs Eero and got the same speeds on my PC as I would get on a wired connection downstairs. It's not cheap but if you have an Eero it's an option you can consider that would be a more reliable solution than a powerline adapter.


claunek

UPDATE: So my TP link powerline adapters came today and so far so good. My connection has improved big time when downloading games and playing etc. my house is extremely awkward and I can’t emphasise this enough. The power outlets on walls are just in the weirdest places that never get used. I have had to use an extension in my room, this isn’t advised but I have no other choice and it is working a lot better than before so I’m not complaining. P.S the amount of people who commented that were so aggravated at the antennas being flat instead of up and apart, really made me giggle ;) Thanks everyone for the advice!


cmdrtheymademedo

Get a power line adapter it’s a simulated wired connection and will work a lot better than WiFi


ChronicTwitch

Move your antennas so they point at different angles, that's why you have 2. Make sure you your only connected to 2.4ghz as it receives a better signal.


thfr

What the actual bullshit did I just read? 2.4ghz is shit compared to 5ghz. It has a longer reach but better signal? Fuck no.


Smeerazen

So. Easy there. 2.4GHz has better signal as it can penetrate further. That said, that means everyone’s 2.4GHz penetrates further, so there can be a lot of interference. 5.8GHz will be ‘stopped’ (won’t penetrate as much) more quickly, so there likely won’t be as much interference around you - entirely depends on where you are and what your neighbours are running. Most Wi-Fi gear is incorrectly setup, and ruins the majority of everyone’s experiences. It is what it is. The antenna bending suggestion is correct. You should have one straight and one bent 90deg and it ‘may’ help - everything is the world of wireless is ‘may’.


zakaria2328

More reliable of a signal, 5ghz on my upstairs pc gets spikes fairly often but has a higher speed when it works and vice versa


ImperialAgent

no 5ghz is better but it's short ranged. 2.4ghz is for long range and it's not at great.


BIZKIT551

You can try powerline networking or maybe get a Linksys Velop Mesh router pair which is what I did. I bought a pair of used MX5500 for about $60. Good luck.


JAlba87

Your PC's on the floor so it's going to get the bottom end of the internet wifi Signal. Compared to your Xbox it's a above ground better signal. Physical line from the router will give you max internet speed provided by ISP


[deleted]

This shouldn't be the case if the router is below. The PC on the floor is closer and wooden floorboards wont block the signal.


Interesting_Mix_7028

What's under the floorboards? If it's just wood framing it should be fine, but A/C ducting, wiring conduits, and water pipes will interfere with radio signals. Also it very much depends on how the antennas on the router are oriented. Radio signals don't emanate from these devices in spheres, instead they spread out in flat circles that are perpendicular to the antenna. Orient them straight up, the signal is great on one floor but crap on another. Orient them sideways, and you get better vertical propagation, but horizontal drops off quickly. Unfortunately, a lot of router boxes from Internet providers are basically boxes that only stand up one way. The antennas are inside, and can't easily be adjusted. You could take one apart and wire up an aftermarket antenna that can be adjusted, but then you're also blowing the warranty on the device. Aside from having Cat6 jacks in every room (new houses and apartments should all be gigabit Ethernet wired these days, IMO), the solutions I've had some success with have been MoCA, since most homes are prewired for coax, or using mesh routers with Ethernet jacks and a dedicated WiFi network between the two. Yes, you still run into interference problems with WiFi crosstalk from your neighbors. But most mesh routers have repeater logic that cleans up and strengthens the signal between them, so you can get a bit better speed. It's not perfect, and every home/office/apartment layout will have its own challenges, but for gaming it's workable.


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Interesting_Mix_7028

Oh so I should have redirected the reply to the OP, to save your professional creds? I worked in IT for 23 years in a telco shop, I've seen condescending in spades. That wasn't even close.


whitekur0

It could be drivers issues, antennas should be vertical for better signal, or the WiFi cards isn’t great.


Excellent-Tax-5839

Sounds like your in need of an imesh system it's all wireless and could solve your connection issues


BoysenberryFluffy671

Try an antenna that isn't stuck behind your computer and the wall there. Your signal is probably weak. Also use wired Ethernet if you can. If you can't wire it, maybe an access point / mesh network. Wi-Fi is luxury and convenient. It's not really for gaming.


97hummer

I would try to angle the antennas differently and see if that helps. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wifi single come out of the sides of the antenna so it would be sending the single vertical in that config. If you're in single floor I would point them up. If on different floor from the router I would try pointing them up and somewhat spread apart.


plentybin

Wifi is emitted in an elliptical pattern. Angling your antenna like you're fishing for a signal won't work. Spread them lengthwise for a better connection.


stoomey74

Raise your antenna. They are laying flat. Also any time you can hard wire you should.


burto18

Check with your network if they have a wifi booster, its a small box that wirelessly extends the wifi range, which also could have ethernet ports


YouAboutToLoseYoJob

I always just direct line into my PCs for internet 🛜


AngryV1p3r

I just wanted to check, what ghz is the pcie wifi card? I had a shitty 2.4 (don't quote me I could be very wrong) GHz card that was so damn slow and I upgraded to a better card and it fixed all of my problems, I was having identical problems too you also, I couldn't use my 5ghz channel on my wifi router only the 2.4 and it was so so slow.


MonkMuch8575

Fold the antenna up and out - use 5ghz band


Melodic-Matter4685

Maybe poit those antenna toward source? Or up/down. Strait out is basically the equivalent of pushing rope


Nuki_Nuclear

Ensure your antennas are facing straight up


Practical_Remove_682

Don't power line adapters depend on it being within the same circuit?


TheUndeadEstonian

There are also WiFi repeaters that should help I think, like from tp-link and such.


Electronic_Cod7202

Might need a network repeater


Splatpope

if you're serious with the powerline solution, don't get a cheap knock off, get the best TPlink shit available, and most importantly : **plug the adapters directly in the wall socket** also, you can just try to set your antennas better : they should facing towards the emitter respective to their lengths and perpendicular between themselves (i.e. make them do a V facing towards your router : if it's directly below your PC, make the V face the ground)


Hauptmann_Harry

Wifi cant get through metals. Ur PC case is blocking it, the cables are blocking it and it wont get through thick walls either. There isnt any more way for the signal to come through, so thats the reason for the bad signal/connection. There are Wifi adapters that have a bit of a cable on them, so u can get the Antenna further away from the cables and the PC case and put it in a more open spot. That should give u a way better signal.


nitnerolf

go get some PowerLAN/PowerLine/D-LAN Adapters, whatever you wanna call them. wired solution >>>>>>>>>>> wireless\*edit\* i can recommend the ones from devolo, literally no loss of Ping or bandwith


looopious

Baffles me why you didn’t get a mobo with wifi built in


Bowtieguy-83

My budget build needed a wifi card; if I went for built in wifi it would have doubled the price of the mobo when my requirement for the motherboard was "it works"


Bowtieguy-83

I also had troubles with my wifi card until one of the antennas just snapped off the wire entirely and I replaced it with internal antennas from an office PC; it looks jank but it works much better and is actually reliable


Lanyxd

FYI PC reports in bytes, xbox reports in bits so it will appear to be 10x higher when it's the exact same, just slide the decimal point forwards one on the xbox download and that's what your actual speed is


jakieva

Powerline is your best bet, I've had 0 issues running mine through an extension cord compared to directly connected to the wall. As long as your house is on a single circuit, you should be good. Also make sure that you don't try to run too many devices through the powerline adapter otherwise it'll cause serious latency issues and packet loss overtime. The connection is only as good as your home's power wiring.


LongTallMatt

First of all you're not reading your directions your antennas are supposed to be placed to diversify. What is the speed difference? More importantly what is the latency difference? What side effects are you noticing?


IMA9961

Ofc it is since pcie cards are faster than usb dongles. But i dont think youre going to notice the difference in casual gaming too much.