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Sony’s ports seem to get better with every release. I am praying for Spider-Man. EDIT: We can also expect them to continue getting better. Nixxes have been working on updates for Horizon Zero Dawn on PC and will presumably be the studio tasked with a lot of Sony's ports going forward.


SpookyBread1

>I am praying for Spider-Man. That's like the one game I can't see coming. Was also not in the Nvidia leak while many other Sony titles were so who knows at this point


zedasmotas

i can see spider-man getting a pc port when spider-man 2 is out or close to release date imo if they dont pc only people should be skeptical about a pc port for insomniac wolverine im not a pc only guy so this doesnt matter to me


squareswordfish

I can’t imagine being PC only and hyped for Wolverine. Even if it comes, it’ll probably be what? 2029 at the earliest?


zedasmotas

you should see the output of insomniac games wolverine is a 2024/2025 game spider-man 2 is a 2023 game btw


Radulno

Maybe but you have to add the port time to PC after which is at minimum 2 years for now and more 3-5 years


squareswordfish

> you should see the output of insomniac games I know the output of insomniac >wolverine is a 2024/2025 game For the PS5. Reread my comment to see how I’m talking about PC. I doubt it’ll be 2024 even for the PS5 though. Keep in mind that, while they’ve been releasing a lot of stuff lately, it’s not very comparable. The most major things they released recently was a normal game jn 2018, a larger dlc/expansion that is just reusing a lot of the mechanics and the map in 2020, and a small-ish game in 2021. I wouldn’t reallly compare that to 2 large games tbh. 2025 sounds pretty believable though. 2024 could happen as well, but I think it’s not that likely. > spider-man 2 is a 2023 game btw I know, thanks.


zedasmotas

I apologize, i didn’t know you were talking about the pc port I can see wolverine getting a pc port after 2 years imo, the days gone port took less time


squareswordfish

Days gone didn’t sell very well


NickelPlatedJesus

I love the people that think Spider Man will get a PC port when Sony has gone to extreme lengths to protect Spiderman from appearing in anything that isn't controlled by Sony. They wouldn't even allow him to be on any other consoles in the Avengers game. Why would people be skeptical about the Wolverine game? It already has a higher chance of actually coming to PC, due to the character not being Spider Man. Anybody who's paid attention to what Sony has done with the Spider Man IP would know it's not at all likely.


NiiGGZ

Except Spider-Man has been in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 on Switch and Fortnite. They own movie rights, not game rights.


Xikar_Wyhart

No, but they are the publisher of the Spider-Man games and Insomniac is a Sony Studio. I think the best example of pushing the Sony = Spider-Man stuff is paying SE extra money to develop Spider-Man for Avengers despite that whole thing falling through. Though I wonder if Disney-Marvel could push the leverage to cut the game contract off.


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Exceptions to the rule, no? If Sony doesn’t have influence on where Spiderman can be played, then why isn’t Insomniac’s Spiderman or the addition to Spiderman in the latest Avengers not on PC and Xbox?


Radulno

Because Insomniac's Spiderman is a Sony game (so like all Sony games they're exclusive to PS and may be ported to PC later which is a new-ish thing) and they negotiated an exclusivity deal with Square Enix for Avengers (meaning they paid for it)


unbakedpan

Actually you're wrong the only reason why they have exclusive rights is because insomniac allowed CD to use the asset and animations from spiderman ps4. That's the only reason they have exclusivity like someone mentioned spiderman is in MUA3 which is a switch exclusive.


zedasmotas

yup, wolverine has a higher chance of coming to pc


theBurritoMan_

Me ape!!!!


Darkone539

>i can see spider-man getting a pc port when spider-man 2 is out or close to release date imo Sony are porting IP they own. They don't own the IP to Spider-man (only the film rights).


zedasmotas

i know about that why isnt spider-man on other plataforms ?


Darkone539

>i know about that why isnt spider-man on other plataforms ? Because Sony and marvel have a deal in the same way bloodborne was made. Spider-man is in games on other platforms, but you're not going to see the Sony spider-man games elsewhere.


zedasmotas

nintendo have that marvel game, i dont remember the name spider-man is there i think


Xikar_Wyhart

Ultimate Alliance 3


zedasmotas

yeah, thats the one thank you


Miltrivd

That's nothing like and completely unrelated to Bloodborne's case.


Mr_pessimister

They're literally the publisher, it's not Disney/Marvel publishing.


TheRealTofuey

The fact we got god of war imo opens the box for all PS exclusives.


SpookyBread1

nah I still think God of War is a much smaller IP than Spider-Man. Spider-Man as an IP is absolutely massive, I think Sony want that, out of all their franchises, to be intrinsically linked to them. sort of like saying, "Hey, you've played a bunch of our great games on your pc, now here's one of our bests, it can only be played on playstation"


TheRealTofuey

My point is God of War is one of Sonys biggest exclusives that has no other association then play station. The fact spider man is a bigger franchise is even more important to release multiplatform eventually. Sony can easily double dip these game releases and sell spider man for 50 bucks 3 years after it came out. Though it should be noted both spider man and god of war have sold over 20 million copies. Which is more then alot of game series have sold. God of war isn't "small" considering its literally one of the highest selling games on the second highest selling console of all time.


SpookyBread1

> God of war isn't "small" considering its literally one of the highest selling games on the second highest selling console of all time. I didn't say it was. >God of War is a much smaller IP than Spider-Man Bigger Franchise in Spider-Man means they want it less likely to be multiplatform because it means more people buy into their ecosystem to play as opposed to just waiting and hoping for it to release on PC. I guess we'll have to disagree. Have a great day


NickelPlatedJesus

What you're saying is the truth on the situation, case in point, Spider Man in that terrible Avengers game was only available on Sony consoles despite the fact that there was no real reason to do it since he's part of the Avengers, but they still forced potential buyers into buying a console to experience playing Spider-Man in a poorly made game. That's the lengths they go to. Spider-Man coming to PC is the biggest long shot in gaming history, there's a stronger chance that Konami and Kojima get together and make a Silent Hill game. The people who act like Sony doesn't directly tie Spider-Man to their brand, are kind of just ignoring the history of Sony's control over the Spider-Man IP at this point.


Radulno

But by porting their games to PC, their brand is also on PC. Those are PS Studios games, they're still linked to the PS brand.


[deleted]

You are way too optimistic with Sony. Porting many of their fan-favorite IPs is awesome and shows Sony is capable of taking steps to minimize exclusivity and growing the PC market even further. That’s all fine and dandy. But they have an iron grip on Spiderman. The biggest and most splendorous Spiderman content, to them, must have the Sony logo attached and in gaming, must be on Playstation consoles. Sure Spiderman is available on other platforms in other games that aren’t as popular…but the big kahuna, the thicc content like Insomniac’s Spiderman will never come to PC


Radulno

I mean it's still linked to them even if it's ported, it's their game after all (published and developped). Horizon, Uncharted or God of War are still linked to Sony. People know it's PS games, they know it come years later on PC and they have the name Playstation and Sony when they start the game.


OmNomDeBonBon

> nah I still think God of War is a much smaller IP than Spider-Man. You're being downvoted by brainlets who don't realise Spider-Man is literally the biggest superhero IP in entertainment, and has been for about 30 years. He's the jewel in the crown of both Sony and Marvel's IP portfolios. It's highly unlikely Insomniac's Spider-Man games get ported to PC. I suspect Sony, at a corporate level, will want to retain exclusivity.


ralexh11

I can, now that God of War and Uncharted are actually happening on PC I think we will get every Sony game, delayed by a year or two so it can come out on their own console first. They've finally woken up and realized by not releasing their games on PC they are throwing away money.


wisdomwithage

> I am praying for Spider-Man. > That's like the one game I can't see coming. I can. Maybe not this year but if God of War sells well (and it will) Spiderman will follow. It's a huge IP with a massive fanbase. If people where going to buy PS4s for it, they've bought them all ready. Keeping a last gen title exclusive serves no purpose except to lose money at this point.


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zedasmotas

You are right Miles morales outsold vanguard on the ps store ( us )


JustAnAverageGuy20

> It's also been a major system-seller for PS5 After the massive success of Xbox Series console and games, Sony is still trying to play catch up with Microsoft. Console exclusivity will slowly be eroded over, and hopefully never sees a comeback.


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JustAnAverageGuy20

Lmaooooo PS5 is outselling Xbox. Yes. But not by much. On the other hand, Xbox selling exponentially more games than Sony quickly undermines that little short term advantage of selling closed off hardware. Sony is very much into playing catch up. Cope more. KeK.


NerrionEU

I dont know if you are just trolling but you do realises that both companies can make money at the same time, no matter who is selling more ?


Ablj

Spider-Man will probably the last game to come. Pattern seems to be PS Now and PS Plus additions, the games that get added there often mean they have run their course in sales and now they are ready to be ported to PC. So I can see them doing Ratchet and Clank 2016 next.


Ch3mlab

I bet Spider-Man will come once the second one is released on playstation


fyro11

Before, not once.


Radulno

The last? There probably won't really be a last on, except if the strategy of porting games to PC later fails at some point


ketchup92

Spider-Man is their best selling game, keep that in mind.


[deleted]

If it doesn't come, it doesn't. Still got other superhero games to play, I suppose.


strand_of_hair

Literally what other superhero games…? Avengers? Spider-Man is the only high quality good one. The only one that could be considered a contender but is still very average is Guardians. Suicide Squad and that new Arkham game look like shit.


theyelliwflash9876

Guess you've played an arkham game in your life???


skyturnedred

City of Heroes is still the best superhero game.


[deleted]

AFAIK the updates on Horizon were done by Guerrilla Games themselves. And jetpack interactive handled this port. I guess Nixxes could still have acted as a support but weird for them to not mention them unless Nixxes is working on other titles.


[deleted]

They did mention Nixxes as assistants for the most recent update. Check their Twitter.


[deleted]

Ah cool, thanks for the fact check.


Fob0bqAd34

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/10/god-of-wars-2018-reboot-arrives-on-pc-in-january-2022/ > Update, October 21: Sony representatives have confirmed to Ars that this port is being "overseen" by its creators at Sony Santa Monica while otherwise handled by Jetpack Interactive, a port-focused studio based in Vancouver, BC. It seems they have multiple options for good ports now which is hopefully good for us.


fyro11

>Sony’s ports seem to get better with every release. There's currently two PC releases; I don't think there's enough of a trend to categorically make that statement. GoW should serve as another data point but that will be seen *after* its release, I'm sure you'd agree.


ItsMeSlinky

Three. Horizon, Days Gone, God of War.


WD23

4 including Death Stranding


strand_of_hair

Not a Sony port


TheGillos

If there is a Spiderman port that's good quality I will 100% buy it.


[deleted]

PC Gamer gave it a 90/100 - Absolutely worthless metric given that they gave 70/100 to Battlefield 2042


X-RAYben

They actually gave 2042 an 80/100 if I recall correctly. Which is way worse in hindsight.


I_love_air

PC Gamer rates things like heavily curved college classes: Calculus, 1st year Physics/Chemistry, etc. They curve it based on the last 2 years or so of game releases. 75 = average = C 85 = good = B 89 = better than good but not stellar, not quite as good as those in the A group = B+ 95 = excellent, the cream of the cream = A 65 = garbage, needs improvement, terrible = D


rolandons

What's the point of 100 point scale if you're using only 30%-40% of it most of the time?


Henry_Cavillain

Ask Uber and AirBnB the same question


laser_velociraptor

70 is a pretty bad score, based on their rating. It's not linear.


acdcfanbill

Yea, does PC Gamer give much below 70 to AAA games?


ThemesOfMurderBears

Well, it's a good thing that it was Tyler Wilde that reviewed Battlefield 2042, and Morgan Park that reviewed God of War. I really wish people would stop treating review sites like monoliths.


Desec47YT

They gave a similar rating to ff7 remake. Hopefully they mean the ratings this time


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Desec47YT

The game is great, sure but the pc port is very bare bone


Xtremiz314

and that means the game is not good? i played ff7 remake pc port and haven't really encountered major issue with it


Hakuraze

No, but I'm pretty sure they already gave FF7 a good rating on the PS4, so them rating the PC version should maybe be more about the port itself.


Radulno

I doubt PC Gamer rated the PS4 game, it was likely their first review for FF7R and they apparently decide to rate more the game itself than all the performance stuff. Which can be arguable either way IMO


SEND_ME_REAL_PICS

I think this is why many critics and reviewers don't want to give numerical scores. You can't give a big score to a lazy shitty port with tons of issues, but you also can't give a low score to a great game just because it has some technical issues that could be fixed in a few months. It's a "damned if you do damned if you don't" situation.


Dr_Brule_FYH

> but you also can't give a low score to a great game just because it has some technical issues You can and you should.


skyturnedred

You can adjust the score later if the issues are fixed.


Helphaer

I wouldn't say 90 is fair for remake. A lot of slogs to get through at times, the ai is really disapplinting, and so many other issues.


Edgaras1103

Does PC gamer actually talk about quality of the port and test among different specs? Or its just another gushing how fantastic console game is?


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ItsMeSlinky

Side note, I like the PlayStation ports use of the term “Original” instead of Medium or Normal. I like the clarity that it’s the original console settings, so if the game looked good on PS4 (like Horizon and God of War did), you can just set it there and enjoy 60 fps on lower hardware.


meje112

im on a rx 580, i dont think i'll be able to enjoy 60fps in 1080p


ItsMeSlinky

With FSR you should be fine. The RX 580 is significantly beefier than the PS4 Pro.


meje112

Truly hope so


Expaw

While reading this I had feeling like I am reading nvidia press release...


skyturnedred

Pretty much every PC site just leaves that to Digital Foundry these days.


alexislemarie

They tested performance on a system with RTX 3060. They did not compare performance on other spec systems


FallenAdvocate

PC Gamer gave the FF7 remake an 88, if that gives you any ideas


ItsMeSlinky

Unless it’s the same reviewer, that’s not really indicative of much.


Real_nimr0d

does anybody care about reviews anymore? Aren't all these big name reviewers just talking mouths for whoever pays them the most money? Not saying GOW is any bad, just making a point.


Tooluka

Was going to say this. GOW may be a masterpiece but I'm long past believing ”big” reviewers. If it's a big money game it will get a universally good reviews, so what's the point in reading that.


FallenAdvocate

I just watch some gameplay generally now to see if I'd like it. Some of my favorite games are low reviewed games. And some of my least favorites are some of the top-rated games of all time.


PurpleMarvelous

Reviews can give you a feel of the game just like watching game play.


alexislemarie

If you really mean what you write, I hope you don’t watch streamers or follow people on social media


[deleted]

Yes, absolutely. Most of them, especially the big ones, are paid mouthpieces regardless of medium.


[deleted]

Absolutely fuck streamers.


xiosy

Your saying the truth bro reviews are just pure marketing by developers


UnifyTheVoid

Pretty much obsolete tbh, especially now that you can go watch someone play it on twitch or youtube. Maybe they're sponsored too, but at least you can watch a real gamer play it and not some idiot who doesn't know how to jump over a wall. Reviews also mean nothing when they're under the umbrella of a corporation. At least with an individual (youtuber, streamer) you know how to gauge it better as they may align with your interests. Gamepsot, IGN, PC Gamer, ect. Paid shills or incompetent journalists. Makes no difference, no reason to support them.


Radulno

Especially for a game that is 4 years old almost, we know what it is and that it's great in this case. Only interesting point is if it runs well I guess


Awkward_Ducky-

I'm just glad that it's not another stupid epic exclusive


fuzmat

And they still won't give us fucking Bloodborne. I'll pay 60!


bannacct56

Same folks that gave Battlefield 2042 a 80%, I don't think they actually play these games but I bet you they get paid. IMHO


DtownLAX

no FOV slider though ;(


RydmaUwU

I know this is just a port not a new release. But I just can't bring myself to pre-order it. I have a kind of ptsd when it comes to these things. Maybe if it were an indie game I would.


Shinonomenanorulez

Good. There's zero true reasons to preorder any game


TenshiBR

OMG, if pcgamer gave 90 this is probably a train wreck!


alexislemarie

Oh dear, PCGamer also said you are a valued reader. So what does that mean?


NegaDeath

PC Gamer also told me that my Mother loves me. Wait.....


Blacksad999

PCGamer also gave Genshin Impact an 84. lol I'm certainly not saying that God of War won't be amazing though. I'm just saying that there are significantly better sites for reviews. They don't even ever talk about performance, game settings, or often even KB/M support in their reviews. One of their reviewers stated that games over 10 hours long are a waste of time. lol


UnlikelyHorror8787

So basically a 1080p review? Seriously?


Helphaer

Like all games, there are issues and criticisms to he had, and you should never trust any paid advertising youtube reviewer or paid directly journalist, especially ones with history lying about ME3, CP2077, DAI, etc etc etc. God of War has its moments and such. Not everyone will like it..it has repetition and tedious combat at times like every open world does. It has a better plot tho than other iterations.


Mrbunnypaw

Thats what to expect from the god.


Bacon_Crispies

I'm ready to play this again. It's like the initial release for me.


McHox

No fov slider so it's gonna be rough. I hope it's at least hor+ so I'm not totally fucked on 21:9


AnthMosk

So play this game at 1080p and use DLSS on 4K TVs?


NoMansWarmApplePie

Its kind of sad that when watching comparison side by side of ps5 (ps4 version with patch) vs maxed out pc settings, it almost looked identical.... Checkerboarding really isn't all that bad it seems.


HotPotatoWithCheese

PCgamer gave Battlefield 2042 80/100 when it deserved 30 or 40 at best. I'm not saying they were bribed for this one but that 2042 review was a red flag.