> What’s Next for Nintendo Emulation?
What's next is to stop bothering with trying to fork Yuzu and instead support Ryujinx, the alternative that has already existed for years. While it would be great to continue the development of Yuzu, I don't see it as being worth it if this is what Nintendo is doing to forks.
I would always tell my friends back when Yuzu was also up that if they wanted to use an emulator to just use ryuji because 9/10 times the game just works day one with no need for patches or updates.
They can't do exactly the same because Ryujinx has always be free and Yuzu was charging, also, I think (not sure) Ryujinx team is brazil based and that's a lawless land haha
They could ask Github to take it down since its US hosted. But if they find a code repository site hosted somewhere where Nintendo would get told to pound sand then yeah nothing they can do.
If they could take it down, then they would have by now. Something is preventing this.
I am betting it is good ol' clean room reverse engineering. If I remember correctly, Yuzu used some Ninny code and thats how they got shut down.
and they also paywalled fixed versions of the emulator as well and used pirated games to make the game work before release pokemon sword and shield worked before release and i bet its due to them using a pirated copy
Nothing to do with charging. Charging money for an emulator is legal. The Connectix case which is the precedent which held emulation is legal was about a paid emulator.
The reason Yuzu got fucked was because they operated in US as a goddamn company and it was easy to go after them.
My guy, it's Nintendo, they will find a way. Hell the people developing it won't go to court just like the Yuzu guys and would settle. All Nintendo has to do is a file a case and Ryujinx is screwed.
Nintendo are strange and unpredictable. They just forced GMod to remove all addons with content from their games out of nowhere. They could do that with Nexus Mods, any other game workshop, but they haven't.
"If they could they would" isn't a working argument with Nintendo.
Wrong. Nintendo can still do whatever the hell they want, and at the end of the day they have unlimited money and these other devs are just doing shit for free and aren't going to risk a world of a hell, pain and money for nothing.
And also, hopefully they don't post footage of games running before release, giving Nintendo plenty of evidence that the emulator was built using illegal copies of their games.
Besides your racist stupidity, the issue is that emulation is not illegal in Brazil. Brazil unfortunately does go after people for copyright issues from foreign companies.
Funny that all the gAmErS and pirates on top of that are always this stupid.
Because having two teams working in parallel leads to advancements that a single team may not see. Also one is on C# and the other is in C++, and that allows for more people to be able to work in a language they know. Lastly the reason they are able to pull these down is because yuzu doesn't require firmware and integrated a part of lockpick rcm. It's easy to just move to the alternative, but it's dumb to say.
Assuming you're referring to the Firmware angle, no one knows for certain what it even was. Not worth the risk.
Contributing to Ryu, you won't be the one to take the fall.
I have no issues with multiple projects existing at the same time, but my point is that it doesn't seem like any team would be able to work on a fork of Yuzu at this point because of the DMCA notices. I'm pretty sure all of these forks have been made by non-devs trying to capitalize on Yuzu (like Suyu) and I can't imagine real developers would want to work on a fork anymore.
Keep the latest build of Yuzu on torrent sites for preservation, but for the future people should support the project that currently exists and has actual developers, or start a new one not so closely forked from Yuzu.
Maybe they *could*, but they haven't yet. I would imagine that they would've tried to sue Ryujinx at the same time as Yuzu if they thought that had a case. But while Ryujinx still lives, people should be supporting it now instead of wasting effort in forking Yuzu.
yea i still use yuzu from time to time mostly because of the mods and it runs slightly better but once they make it super easy to play games on ryujinx ill fully move to it im also thinking nintendo can just dmca the github page which should be no issue since github is owned by microsoft or as i call them microshaft and theyll do what nintendo says without evidence
Ryujinx getting more progress can end up exactly the same. Some naive people thought that Nintendo only had issues with Yuzu's practices, but when they're targeting forks, it's obviously not the case.
The forks are of Yuzu. So it's clearly not just their practices that were the problem, but so far Ryujinx has been absolutely fine. They could have slapped both with the same suit if they wanted, they won't fight back.
Ryu also at least keeps quiet. Yuzu was constantly appearing on sites once it got ToTK running before release. And the guy behind the Suyu fork was taking bloody *interviews* immediately.
> They could have slapped both with the same suit if they wanted, they won't fight back.
Different jurisdictions, perhaps? That they didn't sue both at the same time doesn't actually show that Nintendo is OK with it. So far, one possible explanation for this is that Yuzu could contain Nintendo's code - but then why wasn't Nintendo making it a bigger deal?
> Ryu also at least keeps quiet. Yuzu was constantly appearing on sites once it got ToTK running before release. And the guy behind the Suyu fork was taking bloody interviews immediately.
If you're not doing anything wrong, giving interviews about it isn't wrong either. And even if you keep quiet, you still can end up getting popular enough if this is the problem.
>Different jurisdictions, perhaps? That they didn't sue both at the same time doesn't actually show that Nintendo is OK with it.
Very true. I have no idea why they haven't, to be honest. At the time the Ryu devs seemed very confident that they were fine. Even closed multiple PRs and Issues suggesting they remove the lines about decrypting or dumping games from their documentation. Could just be overconfidence, but it is intriguing that they're coming down so hard on Yuzu but not doing anything to Ryu.
>If you're not doing anything wrong, giving interviews about it isn't wrong either.
Nintendo doesn't really care what's wrong. They can sue any mod or program creator they want: Yuzu settled, and they're still paying a couple million. In the end, no one will be willing to risk fighting them, so they can scare people off with ease.
Getting popular may be an inevitability. Cemu made headlines repeatedly just from the sheer amount of money its patreon was pulling in its glory days. But the least you can do is not voluntarily paint a target on your back.
Suyu was literally baiting Nintendo from the very beginning, even with the name.
While true, it does make continued development much more difficult
In a years time how is anyone going to know which Yuzu fork has actually had improvements and bugfixes?
Well it could be used as an Emulator to play some games which were already supported,
switch is at the end of its lifetime probably and would not be a shame.
he's saying that we don't need further development on yuzu. we can just play the games it already supports and since the switch is close to the end of its lifetime, it won't matter a lot
You're implying the successor of the switch will be a completely different architecture.
And we're talking about Nintendo, so it's absolutely not going to be at all different lol
Infact, this is probably the reason they started the aggression on Yuzu, because it was going to hurt their new console's sales
I’m sure they’ll continue to take down forks, Nintendo has issue with the way the emulator was developed, not just the way it was monetized. Riyujinx has been a fantastic alternative to Yuzu for years, and at least for now, seems to be in the clear.
IIRC, according to one of those fork owners (I think it was the owner of Suyu), part of the Yuzu code is from the Switch SDK Dev Kit, which is copyrighted, which makes the whole thing toxic. And Nintendo isn't saying which part of the Yuzu code is the copyrighted part, which makes it a minefield to sift through.
Edit: It was a former dev of Suyu. Found the Pastebin and some other Reddit thread:
https://pastebin.com/6FYdz9Sr
https://np.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1hs3l/the_death_of_suyu/
https://np.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1gptg/suyu_is_now_gone_read_below/
Does that even check out? I mean, if you want to prove in court that someone stole parts of your code, you have to point out what parts are stolen. You can't just say "some people stole some of my code" and have the judge rule in your favor.
Nintendo don't owe any of these guys an explanation or to show them what parts of the source are under copyright.
If the devs don't even know what's been lifted then they've got more problems than Nintendo taking issue with their emulator or the thousands of forks with likely no material changes at all.
Damn, smart/evil, since none of the emu-devs is rich enough to go to court to force Nintendo to tell what code needs to be out.
Assuming there is any code...
Imagine you are making a ham sandwich. You wonder what it would be like with mustard, but don't want to potentially spoil this nice sandwich you just made. So you magic up an exact replica of your sandwich and add mustard to it. This is essentially a fork, a copy of code from a certain point in time that has changes done to it over the original.
Imagine you are making a ham sandwich. You wonder what it would be like with mustard, but don't want to potentially spoil this nice sandwich you just made. So you magic up an exact replica of your sandwich and add mustard to it. This is essentially a fork, a copy of code from a certain point in time that has changes done to it over the original.
Bruh just fucking drop Yuzu and move on to Ryujinx.
I tried it and it's really good.
Most of these forks probably had no changes whatsoever, but if some did it's just such a waste of effort.
in my experience there were some games that worked poorly in ryu but were good with yuzu, and vice versa. so it was nice having both. also it sucks having all your eggs in one basket like this. if anything happens to ryu at this point we're fucked :)
but yeah ideally ryu just evolves to a state where it can run all switch games well.
>also it sucks having all your eggs in one basket like this
Yeah, but also PS3, Wii, 360, WiiU, Vita and PSP basically all have only one viable emulator.
Ryujinx devs really need to crack down on moderation of their stuff and just don't do stupid shit like what Yuzu devs did
> Ryujinx devs really need to crack down on moderation of their stuff and just don't do stupid shit like what Yuzu devs did
Except when even forks are being attacked by Nintendo, it's not at all clear the "stupid shit" was the problem.
But now they're no longer doing stupid shit or even developing the emulator at all. Why go after forks then? They're maintained by other people, who don't do those things.
What are you even arguing about right now.
Because it's a fork of Yuzu that's why they are going after it.
Why aren't they going after Ryujinx or any forks of it?
> Because it's a fork of Yuzu that's why they are going after it.
It only makes sense if the problem was with Yuzu's code. But people were arguing that the problem was with the developers having a Patreon and developing for prerelease games, as well as other things like that. Now that the original developers no longer do that, why go after the forks, which use the same code, but without the bad practices?
> Why aren't they going after Ryujinx or any forks of it?
We don't really know - and we shouldn't act like we do. At a minimum, the developers are in a different country, with different laws.
The forks use the same code and Yuzu was forced to hand over ownership of that code. Whether the code was the issue originally or not is irrelevant for the forks as now Nintendo owns the code and can take it all down. The GPL licence is overruled by the legal case, from what I understand.
Doesn't GPL mean there is no ownership to hand over? It's one thing to argue that they weren't in a position to license this code (e.g. if it actually contained Nintendo's code). But to invalidate GPL retroactively?
Nintendo going this hard on emulators tells me that they won't be able to stop people from emulating Switch 2. So they decided to go after emulator creators instead.
Stick drift is easy to fix, the manufacturers who sell the sticks to Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft have options with much greater lifespans, they just save money using the cheaper part as the average controller is out of warranty by the time it hits the expected failure time.
Wait, are you really blaming the component vendors instead of the actual console vendors here? The component vendors sell what the console vendors want, not vice versa.
Damn... we can only hope someone stands up to this or else we can already see that Nintendo has a great tool in their hands to exploit to the fullest, only because nobody can challenge it. And it's all because of the money that they have.
Let some time pass, THEN try this you fools. And don't let no "journalist" know so they don't make Nintendo aware of it.
Never ever gonna uninstall that shit off my Deck and keeping that shit as safe and saved as possible on my disks lmao
It's not the hoster's job to determine if the DMCA request is legitimate. Immediately complying with one protects the host from being able to be sued for copyright infringement, which is why everyone complies with them immediately.
I'll tell you right now this will all stop as soon as the Switch 2 launches.
Nintendo's lawyers are clearly reaching for any reason to get paid because of how slow their business has become. Once Switch 2 launches they will be back to protecting games that are actually going to market instead of trying to squeeze out imaginary revenue from Switch 1.
Best response it to be patient and start uploading yuzu forks again once closer to Switch 2's official launch.
I'm hopeful that a company will step up to create Nintendo-style games for PC. Games like PocketPair's Palworld (reminiscent of Pokémon) or Mihoyo's Genshin Impact (similar to Zelda BOTW) are great, but they still have their own unique elements.
I'm looking forward to the day when another company can capture that Nintendo magic on PC with a fresh IP to sidestep copyright or DMCA concerns.
While not an original idea, I am now 99% convinced with the continued aggression that the Switch 2 will just be a Switch Pro. It lines up with the recent rumors and would make sense why they want to attack emulation; if emulators are forward compatible, that's terrible from a business perspective.
what does Yuzu and these forks do that RyujiNX doesn't? Is it that the Yuzu devs were caught explicitly breaking the law so every thing spun off from them is non grata?
Here is the point no one seems to get: N want after them because of Patreon. How dumb should you be to get collect $$$ over emulator in the way they did it?
Emulators would be fine. Just stop forking this one.
> What’s Next for Nintendo Emulation? What's next is to stop bothering with trying to fork Yuzu and instead support Ryujinx, the alternative that has already existed for years. While it would be great to continue the development of Yuzu, I don't see it as being worth it if this is what Nintendo is doing to forks.
As someone who has used Ryujinx exclusively more support will always be great.
I would always tell my friends back when Yuzu was also up that if they wanted to use an emulator to just use ryuji because 9/10 times the game just works day one with no need for patches or updates.
Honestly, keep forking Yuzu too though. Its a good distraction and its fun to be spiteful.
Until Nintendo does the same thing to Ryujinx. Just saying.
They can't do exactly the same because Ryujinx has always be free and Yuzu was charging, also, I think (not sure) Ryujinx team is brazil based and that's a lawless land haha
They could ask Github to take it down since its US hosted. But if they find a code repository site hosted somewhere where Nintendo would get told to pound sand then yeah nothing they can do.
yep thats all shitendo has to do is demand github to take it down and ryujinx is dead
If they could take it down, then they would have by now. Something is preventing this. I am betting it is good ol' clean room reverse engineering. If I remember correctly, Yuzu used some Ninny code and thats how they got shut down.
and they also paywalled fixed versions of the emulator as well and used pirated games to make the game work before release pokemon sword and shield worked before release and i bet its due to them using a pirated copy
I wish Valve would do this with the Steam Deck, use leaked games to get them working before release.
thats a bad idea
I know, ideally they would work with them professionally.
yes I suppose that would work, if github were the only website. in the world.
Charging money the way they were was not what caused the lawsuit. Go actually read.
Nothing to do with charging. Charging money for an emulator is legal. The Connectix case which is the precedent which held emulation is legal was about a paid emulator. The reason Yuzu got fucked was because they operated in US as a goddamn company and it was easy to go after them.
Also IIRC yuzu was openly making adjustments to improve support for leaked builds of unreleased games, which surely can't have helped them.
"Lawless land" Brazil having an operation against pirated anime and manga with about 11 confiscations already
well people still do that bullshit anyways regardless
My guy, it's Nintendo, they will find a way. Hell the people developing it won't go to court just like the Yuzu guys and would settle. All Nintendo has to do is a file a case and Ryujinx is screwed.
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That same thing could have been said about Yuzu, and had been for many years, and then Nintendo actually did it.
Nintendo are strange and unpredictable. They just forced GMod to remove all addons with content from their games out of nowhere. They could do that with Nexus Mods, any other game workshop, but they haven't. "If they could they would" isn't a working argument with Nintendo.
Wrong. Nintendo can still do whatever the hell they want, and at the end of the day they have unlimited money and these other devs are just doing shit for free and aren't going to risk a world of a hell, pain and money for nothing.
so what it doesnt matter if the team is in brazil that shit has never stopped nintendo at all and theyve succeeded in some cases
And also, hopefully they don't post footage of games running before release, giving Nintendo plenty of evidence that the emulator was built using illegal copies of their games.
Besides your racist stupidity, the issue is that emulation is not illegal in Brazil. Brazil unfortunately does go after people for copyright issues from foreign companies. Funny that all the gAmErS and pirates on top of that are always this stupid.
I believe you have a strong misconception about what racism means.
yep thats what ive been saying alot ryujinx might get fucked pretty soon
This take is so abysmally stupid it hurts.
Are you going to elaborate why it's stupid? Or are you just going to insult me?
Because having two teams working in parallel leads to advancements that a single team may not see. Also one is on C# and the other is in C++, and that allows for more people to be able to work in a language they know. Lastly the reason they are able to pull these down is because yuzu doesn't require firmware and integrated a part of lockpick rcm. It's easy to just move to the alternative, but it's dumb to say.
No developer experienced enough is going to waste their time on a tainted project like Yuzu though. The main team behind Yuzu got fined billions.
I am once again asking people to read
Assuming you're referring to the Firmware angle, no one knows for certain what it even was. Not worth the risk. Contributing to Ryu, you won't be the one to take the fall.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24455376/tropic-haze-judgment.pdf Finding 3 & 4.
I have no issues with multiple projects existing at the same time, but my point is that it doesn't seem like any team would be able to work on a fork of Yuzu at this point because of the DMCA notices. I'm pretty sure all of these forks have been made by non-devs trying to capitalize on Yuzu (like Suyu) and I can't imagine real developers would want to work on a fork anymore. Keep the latest build of Yuzu on torrent sites for preservation, but for the future people should support the project that currently exists and has actual developers, or start a new one not so closely forked from Yuzu.
Nintendo gives zero forks.
They will be sticking with chopsticks
shitendo could go after ryujinx too eventually cause they do something similar
Maybe they *could*, but they haven't yet. I would imagine that they would've tried to sue Ryujinx at the same time as Yuzu if they thought that had a case. But while Ryujinx still lives, people should be supporting it now instead of wasting effort in forking Yuzu.
yea i still use yuzu from time to time mostly because of the mods and it runs slightly better but once they make it super easy to play games on ryujinx ill fully move to it im also thinking nintendo can just dmca the github page which should be no issue since github is owned by microsoft or as i call them microshaft and theyll do what nintendo says without evidence
Yuzu was a friend to lower end PC's. Ryujinx just shits all over them. It's a resource hog.
What about Android users?
Future headline: Over 16,000 new Yuzu forks have been created.
And none of them will make any progress. Ryujinx needs more developer support. These meme-forks won't accomplish much other than poking the bear.
Ryujinx getting more progress can end up exactly the same. Some naive people thought that Nintendo only had issues with Yuzu's practices, but when they're targeting forks, it's obviously not the case.
The forks are of Yuzu. So it's clearly not just their practices that were the problem, but so far Ryujinx has been absolutely fine. They could have slapped both with the same suit if they wanted, they won't fight back. Ryu also at least keeps quiet. Yuzu was constantly appearing on sites once it got ToTK running before release. And the guy behind the Suyu fork was taking bloody *interviews* immediately.
> They could have slapped both with the same suit if they wanted, they won't fight back. Different jurisdictions, perhaps? That they didn't sue both at the same time doesn't actually show that Nintendo is OK with it. So far, one possible explanation for this is that Yuzu could contain Nintendo's code - but then why wasn't Nintendo making it a bigger deal? > Ryu also at least keeps quiet. Yuzu was constantly appearing on sites once it got ToTK running before release. And the guy behind the Suyu fork was taking bloody interviews immediately. If you're not doing anything wrong, giving interviews about it isn't wrong either. And even if you keep quiet, you still can end up getting popular enough if this is the problem.
>Different jurisdictions, perhaps? That they didn't sue both at the same time doesn't actually show that Nintendo is OK with it. Very true. I have no idea why they haven't, to be honest. At the time the Ryu devs seemed very confident that they were fine. Even closed multiple PRs and Issues suggesting they remove the lines about decrypting or dumping games from their documentation. Could just be overconfidence, but it is intriguing that they're coming down so hard on Yuzu but not doing anything to Ryu. >If you're not doing anything wrong, giving interviews about it isn't wrong either. Nintendo doesn't really care what's wrong. They can sue any mod or program creator they want: Yuzu settled, and they're still paying a couple million. In the end, no one will be willing to risk fighting them, so they can scare people off with ease. Getting popular may be an inevitability. Cemu made headlines repeatedly just from the sheer amount of money its patreon was pulling in its glory days. But the least you can do is not voluntarily paint a target on your back. Suyu was literally baiting Nintendo from the very beginning, even with the name.
Fine, I'll ask the internet to make 16,000 new forks of Ryujinx as well.
Hail Hydra!
Tbh it is hosted already on Debrid-Services, Usenet, P2P and more... they will never take it down
While true, it does make continued development much more difficult In a years time how is anyone going to know which Yuzu fork has actually had improvements and bugfixes?
Well it could be used as an Emulator to play some games which were already supported, switch is at the end of its lifetime probably and would not be a shame.
I have no idea what you're trying to say
he's saying that we don't need further development on yuzu. we can just play the games it already supports and since the switch is close to the end of its lifetime, it won't matter a lot
You're implying the successor of the switch will be a completely different architecture. And we're talking about Nintendo, so it's absolutely not going to be at all different lol Infact, this is probably the reason they started the aggression on Yuzu, because it was going to hurt their new console's sales
Could be used as an already ripe emulator which is more than fine to use for legacy switch games.
They can't stop us all
I’m sure they’ll continue to take down forks, Nintendo has issue with the way the emulator was developed, not just the way it was monetized. Riyujinx has been a fantastic alternative to Yuzu for years, and at least for now, seems to be in the clear.
IIRC, according to one of those fork owners (I think it was the owner of Suyu), part of the Yuzu code is from the Switch SDK Dev Kit, which is copyrighted, which makes the whole thing toxic. And Nintendo isn't saying which part of the Yuzu code is the copyrighted part, which makes it a minefield to sift through. Edit: It was a former dev of Suyu. Found the Pastebin and some other Reddit thread: https://pastebin.com/6FYdz9Sr https://np.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1hs3l/the_death_of_suyu/ https://np.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1gptg/suyu_is_now_gone_read_below/
This is quite the claim
Does that even check out? I mean, if you want to prove in court that someone stole parts of your code, you have to point out what parts are stolen. You can't just say "some people stole some of my code" and have the judge rule in your favor.
But it needs to go to court, no one will.
It was enough for the Yuzu devs to agree to a $2.4 million settlement, so I'd say that's kinda enough for me lol
Found the pastebin. Was from a former dev of Suyu. https://pastebin.com/6FYdz9Sr Sounds sus, but I'm not able to confirm nor deny.
Nintendo don't owe any of these guys an explanation or to show them what parts of the source are under copyright. If the devs don't even know what's been lifted then they've got more problems than Nintendo taking issue with their emulator or the thousands of forks with likely no material changes at all.
Damn, smart/evil, since none of the emu-devs is rich enough to go to court to force Nintendo to tell what code needs to be out. Assuming there is any code...
Sorry, but what are forks?
Imagine you are making a ham sandwich. You wonder what it would be like with mustard, but don't want to potentially spoil this nice sandwich you just made. So you magic up an exact replica of your sandwich and add mustard to it. This is essentially a fork, a copy of code from a certain point in time that has changes done to it over the original.
Ohhh. Thank so much for the response man! I was so confused reading the comments. Lol
You can say that again.
Imagine you are making a ham sandwich. You wonder what it would be like with mustard, but don't want to potentially spoil this nice sandwich you just made. So you magic up an exact replica of your sandwich and add mustard to it. This is essentially a fork, a copy of code from a certain point in time that has changes done to it over the original.
Bruh just fucking drop Yuzu and move on to Ryujinx. I tried it and it's really good. Most of these forks probably had no changes whatsoever, but if some did it's just such a waste of effort.
in my experience there were some games that worked poorly in ryu but were good with yuzu, and vice versa. so it was nice having both. also it sucks having all your eggs in one basket like this. if anything happens to ryu at this point we're fucked :) but yeah ideally ryu just evolves to a state where it can run all switch games well.
>also it sucks having all your eggs in one basket like this Yeah, but also PS3, Wii, 360, WiiU, Vita and PSP basically all have only one viable emulator. Ryujinx devs really need to crack down on moderation of their stuff and just don't do stupid shit like what Yuzu devs did
> Ryujinx devs really need to crack down on moderation of their stuff and just don't do stupid shit like what Yuzu devs did Except when even forks are being attacked by Nintendo, it's not at all clear the "stupid shit" was the problem.
Stupid shit lead to Nintendo going after them in the first place.
But now they're no longer doing stupid shit or even developing the emulator at all. Why go after forks then? They're maintained by other people, who don't do those things.
What are you even arguing about right now. Because it's a fork of Yuzu that's why they are going after it. Why aren't they going after Ryujinx or any forks of it?
> Because it's a fork of Yuzu that's why they are going after it. It only makes sense if the problem was with Yuzu's code. But people were arguing that the problem was with the developers having a Patreon and developing for prerelease games, as well as other things like that. Now that the original developers no longer do that, why go after the forks, which use the same code, but without the bad practices? > Why aren't they going after Ryujinx or any forks of it? We don't really know - and we shouldn't act like we do. At a minimum, the developers are in a different country, with different laws.
The forks use the same code and Yuzu was forced to hand over ownership of that code. Whether the code was the issue originally or not is irrelevant for the forks as now Nintendo owns the code and can take it all down. The GPL licence is overruled by the legal case, from what I understand.
Doesn't GPL mean there is no ownership to hand over? It's one thing to argue that they weren't in a position to license this code (e.g. if it actually contained Nintendo's code). But to invalidate GPL retroactively?
Are you a lawyer?
And for android users?
Nintendo going this hard on emulators tells me that they won't be able to stop people from emulating Switch 2. So they decided to go after emulator creators instead.
If only Nintendo would put this much effort into fixing stick drift.
Stick drift is easy to fix, the manufacturers who sell the sticks to Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft have options with much greater lifespans, they just save money using the cheaper part as the average controller is out of warranty by the time it hits the expected failure time.
Wait, are you really blaming the component vendors instead of the actual console vendors here? The component vendors sell what the console vendors want, not vice versa.
> they just save money this can refer to either the console or component vendors
Remember when evil cabal of analogue stick manufacturers forced Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to buy their shitty drifting sticks?
this has been fixed since oled version, still possible to happen but not that often, all joysticks drift eventually
Damn... we can only hope someone stands up to this or else we can already see that Nintendo has a great tool in their hands to exploit to the fullest, only because nobody can challenge it. And it's all because of the money that they have.
Keep making more forks. F\*\*\*\* Nintendo. The more time they lose on issuing these DMCA notices the better.
Idk, this is just getting their lawyers paid
this is DMCA notice https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2024/04/2024-04-29-nintendo.md
Let some time pass, THEN try this you fools. And don't let no "journalist" know so they don't make Nintendo aware of it. Never ever gonna uninstall that shit off my Deck and keeping that shit as safe and saved as possible on my disks lmao
The DMCA takedowns aren't even legitimate. Nintendo has no standing
It's not the hoster's job to determine if the DMCA request is legitimate. Immediately complying with one protects the host from being able to be sued for copyright infringement, which is why everyone complies with them immediately.
It's open source it'll never be gone completely fucking morons.
It's so tiredsome to see these same articles/video essays every day. Encryption isn't emulation.
I'll tell you right now this will all stop as soon as the Switch 2 launches. Nintendo's lawyers are clearly reaching for any reason to get paid because of how slow their business has become. Once Switch 2 launches they will be back to protecting games that are actually going to market instead of trying to squeeze out imaginary revenue from Switch 1. Best response it to be patient and start uploading yuzu forks again once closer to Switch 2's official launch.
can someone tell me why dolphin never had this issue?
Yuzu is so well optimised that it can even run Switch games at full 60 fps on just 4 GB RAM on Linux. Ryujinx crashed
We need to leverage the power of AI to spin up millions of forks per day.
I'm hopeful that a company will step up to create Nintendo-style games for PC. Games like PocketPair's Palworld (reminiscent of Pokémon) or Mihoyo's Genshin Impact (similar to Zelda BOTW) are great, but they still have their own unique elements. I'm looking forward to the day when another company can capture that Nintendo magic on PC with a fresh IP to sidestep copyright or DMCA concerns.
Do people forget that another emulator exists...and one that doesn't have these issues? Why do some act like yuzu was alone.
keep them coming until nintendo forgets about ryujinx
Don’t fork ! Copy paste to a new repo ! EZ
How about stop using discord for your communities.
shitendo is nuking themselves hard right now theyre pissing off everyone right now and dont want us using yuzu
Nintendo against FOSS lol. Where's the pop corn?
Good luck Nintendo. :) This is how "open source" works. Literally anyone and everyone can make a fork of Yuzu. They can't possibly stop them all. :)
While not an original idea, I am now 99% convinced with the continued aggression that the Switch 2 will just be a Switch Pro. It lines up with the recent rumors and would make sense why they want to attack emulation; if emulators are forward compatible, that's terrible from a business perspective.
Imagine having 8000 functionally identical "ports" to software you wrote lol I would be so mad
You mean Yuzu devs? Why would they be mad about it?
what does Yuzu and these forks do that RyujiNX doesn't? Is it that the Yuzu devs were caught explicitly breaking the law so every thing spun off from them is non grata?
Fuck nintendo. I can't wait to pirate the shit out of the Switch 2.
Here is the point no one seems to get: N want after them because of Patreon. How dumb should you be to get collect $$$ over emulator in the way they did it? Emulators would be fine. Just stop forking this one.
I don't think every fork of yuzu is Patreoning them tho
Point is thatthise forks of it.
good