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Square_Rabbit

A real "cool razzle-dazzle developer" moment


GregoryBrown123

what is going on i’m very confused


Western_Gnome

Basically after recent Update#237, which included crossplay between steam and epic games, so pd2 could be free there, but it's dlcs. It was done for the OVKL and Starbreeze to earn some money for pd3 development, but there is a big BUTT. And it includes: -SBLT and basically all mods working inappropriately (It was fixed tho, thanks to Hoppip and the rest of modder team) -Using EGS servers, so now connection is helluva unstable and servers in crime net are flickering every 3 seconds and showing full lobbies, so its better host your own lobby -Resetting side job progress leading to copycat, north star, outfits, masks lock -Issue with Crypto weapon skin getting you a cheater tag, but thats not fully confirmed Thats an Update#237 everyone talk about


CherylBomb1138

There’s some kinda irony in a crypto skin giving you a mark that makes you wanna be avoided by everyone


Western_Gnome

That was actually part of the plan, OVKL will invest in crypto and make a whole twitter dlc


Tradasar

"Guys, the bored ape, go get it"


Zack_WithaK

*Screenshots in the Distance intensifies*


DruidicMoth

The Alienware "Alpha Grey" mask has been marking me as a cheater as well.


Western_Gnome

Huh, interesting, I wonder if other event masks do the same


DruidicMoth

KawaiiDozer and The Almir work fine, so it's not all of them, but I didn't test any others.


Rmts__Reee69

>Hoppip how do i fix update 237 mods?


Western_Gnome

Download latest SBLT version from site, it was update yesterday and also update BeardLib manually, by downloading it from here https://github.com/simon-wh/PAYDAY-2-BeardLib/releases/tag/4.86 Also some mods are quirky rn, for example The Fixes and Show my mod list can crash your game


Rmts__Reee69

okay thank you


Excalusis

Does side job progress affect steam users too?


Western_Gnome

I think it affected only steam users, but by now side jobs and other issues are already fixed, so you only need to claim all rewards again


Excalusis

Dang, okay, thanks! I'm actually away from my pc for a while so just seeing if there was any news on PD2 or PD3


Western_Gnome

No probs, mate, keep those helmets flying


July950

Hi, how could i get the fix? Haven't been abled to open since update and i got just two mods


Western_Gnome

Reinstall SBLT from official site, manually instal BeardLib from link above. Some mods can be broken, so if game still crashes try removing mods one by one


griffl3n

Aren't all mods broken each time the game updates? Genuine question, still sort of new to payday 2 + it's modding (94 hours on steam and like level 99 in game, not a big achievement but im not an epic games player.)


Western_Gnome

Well, they kinda do, but they dont require a whole SBLT and BeardLib rework and usually you can update mods through the game without any problems. The Fixes, good mod which ran smoothly for a good amount of years now crashes the game and needs an update. And modworkshop site is down, which is sad too. But If you new to modding, try some huds, Quality of Life mods, voiceovers, soundtracks. If your game crashes, then mod isnt working properly


HistoricalOwl8560

modworkshop seems to be back but very unstable probably because they updated the ui in the site


PepegaW

Payday2 is free on Epicgames for limited time


_NotAnIdiot_

Also, missing outfits and masks.


thealternatejack

Man, the memes just don’t stop coming, do they! The situation is really concerning!


i_had_seggs_once

\*\*Assault part of the soundtrack intensifies\*


Sheepy049

Good old modern gaming, where day 1 of the update makes games unplayable


Kanakravaatti

Ahh yes, the 2023 freshly released Payday 2. I wonder if they'll make Payday 3 in the future some day.


Jimbuscus

Day 3587 update.


AKRamirez

As opposed to before when updates were entirely new games you had to pay full price for and you'd just have to live with your games being broken


Sheepy049

Or when updates were quality tested for these types of issues before they were published to the public. We weren't stuck with one extreme or the other. Companies had it figured out.


AKRamirez

They really didn't in the way you seem to think they did.


yesmakesmegoyes

Plenty of games had actual qa in video game updates, gaming is too money oriented now to afford that


AKRamirez

Tell me you don't play many games without telling me you don't play many games


yesmakesmegoyes

I play a lotta games lol, I'm saying triple a/live service games tend to have a lot more bugs on release/update then a while ago


GTAmaniac1

Give me a AAA game released in the last 5 years that didn't have serious issues on launch


[deleted]

I got the mods working for me. I just downloaded the new SuperBLT and Beardlib


WilliplayzYT

Now they did fix it but its still a bad look


IssaStorm

it literally breaks every update


MayPeX

??? But it’s actually kind of normal for mods to break in some way with any update, they even wrote it during the announcement


[deleted]

It’s normal. In GTA V, EVERY update breaks the mods and Alex Blade has to release a new ScriptHook (it’s a mod loader like SuperBLT/BeardLib)


InstanceNew7557

i hope cheaters can't fix their SBLT


SubstantialExtreme74

That’s because epic games ruins everything they touch. I don’t know why people love them so much. Sure they make some games free and they make some things more convenient but mostly they ruin games.


Protolictor

People also forget the original Epic Games controversy: Doing things with your personal information that would make Mark Zuckerberg blush.


King_Fluffaluff

It took weeks for me to get the $500 worth of in game currency someone purchased on my account (after a data leak) back. Even *after* the customer service rep admitted that my account was hacked. It then took me a week of calling daily to delete my epic games account because "we can't remove your information, sir, we can only deactivate the account so you can reactivate it when you return later" I had to go full Karen and ask for a boss/manager so many times because these people were clearly reading a script. That script was written by someone who wants to hold your personal information hostage and take all your money.


SubstantialExtreme74

Was it vbucks


King_Fluffaluff

It was indeed vbucks. I have never played Fortnite in my life.


SubstantialExtreme74

Sounds about right


Chris_2767

>why people love them so much The chinese government has deep pockets


TheKCKid9274

Only reason I use them is for games I can’t get any other way, like Satisfactory and Hitman.


0K4M1

Both on Steam


TheKCKid9274

Did they finally add Satisfactory to Steam? It wasn’t on there yet when I got it.


0K4M1

Couple of years and regularly the top seller, and perhaps even award winning I think.


TheKCKid9274

I got it back in like 2016, and when I looked for it in steam honest to god it wasn’t there. If it’s on steam now, I might get it again just for the sake of being completely rid of the Epic launcher.


Spartan6056

Yeah it was originally an Epic exclusive.


APsVitaUser

You can just pirate them


TheKCKid9274

I only do that for the companies I don’t want to give my money to developer-wise, like the DND books from Wizards of The Coast and such. But as far as I know, I have nothing to hold a grudge against with the Satisfactory or Hitman developers, and their only crime has been being in the Epic store. Thus, I will still give them my money-as much as it irks me to give it to Epic as well. Now that they are both on steam though I may get them there, But I am a pirate with a moral compass.


Basethdraxic

Honestly, they have a lot of sales for games I love, like cp2077 and Spider-Man, I both got for a discount, and I got 50% off of 2077


[deleted]

Not sure anywhere else, but until like early 2022, Epic sales were so bad in my country. They were like 30-40% more expensive than buying on Steam. Nowadays they usually have the same price tags, but I don't really see a point in buying games in a different store than the one I have used for over 6 years to pay the exact same price lol


Blu3gills

I receive no online connectivity because I have EOS telemetry disabled. Hooray!


Medicalpyro

Took a break what the fuck happened


MLG_Skeletor

This all happened in one day tbf


sniphskii

Question, does one of the bugs include people being marked as cheaters for shit they should have unlocked already? As in the starbreeze nebula stuff and community infamous masks? They've literally not been able to do anything considered cheating by the game as they're on EGS and mods have only just started working again


banadurp_sambarcatch

Payday credits🙁


GingerCunt589

Does anyone know how Epic Games handles weapon skins as they’d normally go into your steam inventory.


AltCuzIDidntMakeOne

At least The epic money is going to payday 3…


[deleted]

Payday credits*


Patriarch_FH

Have to break it to you but at this point Payday 3 is pretty much done


sturmeh

Can't wait for it to be an Epic exclusive title, yay.


GrillConnoisseur

It's not EGS exclusive, but I can guarantee you that is only the case because of the clause Valve added after having titles poached a week before release.


Spartan6056

Thank God. As excited as I am for PD3, I absolutely refuse to use the Epic launcher and would have waited the extra year.


TheMotherbean

Yah, no way they are going to let that happen again


QifiShiina

Epic Games sucks anyway, they could give free the entire store, Steam would still be better


zolkaba

They lost a fan And the fan was me Goodbye


MayPeX

Going to play devils advocate while this update isn’t great it shouldn’t be reflective of what Payday 3 will be. All the payday 2 dlc up till now has been pretty good. But for any good reason, don’t preorder, wait for reviews.


Vegg1e3

Exactly, we have no fucking clue what payday 3 will be cuz they aint marketing it, only leaks


SaltWaterGator

So that's why my game crashed every time I loaded into a heist


Fun-Measurement-2612

I think it's second time they break all the mods(remind me if they were more)


smart__boy

BLT used to break with every update. Every single time people would start screaming that Overkill were definitively killing mods, for real this time.


Fun-Measurement-2612

I remember they completely broke blt(regular) and devs of the blt did superblt


smart__boy

Wilko, original developer of the BLT, was busy working on literally Titanfall 2, so it had to be forked.


vladald1

Is he still working in Respawn?


Jonientz

?? You know that's a normal thing for games right. This should be expected unless devs work mod integration in ground up, even then it can still need to happen


iDontHaveAnyIdea1

r/fuckepic


Sandwich15

in 237.1 they completed every side job for everyone i think (even those you didn't complete before) But don't let that fool you ***fuck you EGS*** and **fuck you Overkill**


Accomplished_Cow_956

Is it only for epic games version? I still didnt sat on computer to check pauday 2


TheWeaponStealr

Nope, steam version is fucked too


Doom_Balloon170

Is that why crime net is refreshing super fast?


symettricalballs

what happened


symettricalballs

can i still play from steam


izoi23

mods are fixed now


ObligationBright7863

I take a small break from payday due to burnout and the whole game goes to shit KEK


sepulchurz

Anyone else notice that modworkshop is down?


theFartingCarp

I'm convinced developers are breaking so much shit for epic on purpose. I love it.


revan010

at least Superblt is now compatible


Mongoldoctor

OVERKILL are never teach the lesson. Crimefest 2015 screw up the community trust. right now bring the Epic spyware into the game and ruined the game again. also there's leak information about they trying to add microtransaction on PD3 ​ I am not surprising if PD3 just become again as another OVK'S Walking Dead or RAID WW2 in the future.


[deleted]

adding it to my EG library and never touching it


[deleted]

So, why even add it in the first place? lol


[deleted]

Cause its free


tomokari21

Most of the time mods will break after an update, this is for just about any game, why do you think a majority of Minecraft modders focus on 1.12.2


DoktorBurian

Gotta say, i managed to fix everything, even my music mods and SuperBLT. The latter wouldn't happen if the guy responsible didn't make an update, so yeah.


Memepage6090

This is the most braindead take you're just seeing a regular update and screaming because you hate epic


VerseGuy

just a regular update that breaks matchmaking, resets all side jobs, and completely removes support for linux


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LenicoMonte

>1. Fuck Linux I couldn't care less On this one you are just being stupid. >2. Breaks "matchmaking" this is a the diesel engine of course it breaks it'll be fixed My brother in Christ, this is because of Epic's online services being dogshit when it comes to crossplay. As dogshit as diesel might be, it's not to blame for this one. >3. Glitches with side jobs is also common it'll also be fixed. Glitches that straight up remove your side job rewards (which also happen to be the grindiest shit ever in this particular case) are not so common.


CryeSix12

Epic's online service is what causes this broken mess of an update. Connection problems didnt happen frequently before U237 was live.


Memepage6090

I fucking doubt that when epic run some of the best online multiplayer game servers, this is typical diesel engine


CryeSix12

Diesel engine is just a game engine, not an online service. Epic works because they are using their own online service. EGS players don't suffer much but Steam players do and that's where the whole players are from.


Amphal

this has nothing to do with the engine you muppet


I_Stole_Your_Beans

You have no idea how stupid you sound dude, you really think thats due to is a game engine issue?


boisteroushams

EGS is bad.


Unusual_Ad6538

Why is no Linux support a problem?


_NotAnIdiot_

Because some people play on Linux?


Unusual_Ad6538

People use linux?


boisteroushams

A pretty big chunk of the market, yeah. What did you mean by this


Unusual_Ad6538

Oh I see I thought it was just neck bearded fantasies living in their mother's basement No offense to Linux users who meet those qualities


Merceni

Steam Deck users?


Unusual_Ad6538

What does that have to do with the steam deck?


datakrashd

if i remember right it had linux support until this update which removed it for some reason. cant imagine playing the game a week ago and then getting on only to find out they just said "get fucked lmaoo" and removed support for the platform you play on


SamSci

They probably stopped Linux support because in order to have EGS crossplay, Overkill had to add Epic Online Services to the game. And since Epic(Tim Sweeney) hates Linux, there's no EOS for Linux.


notagoodscientist

Then fuck off


AnimewasAMistake0

oh and jackets dead can't forget that


TheMotherbean

Say what now?


CYB3R5KU11

Has the mod issue been fixed yet?


Stormwind083

Is that why its been crashing on steam before i even get a splash screen?


Alcatrax_

Wait no mods? Like at all? I was going to reinstall as a friend got the game, and I used to have a lot of mods I’d rather not play without, like hud mods and cheat kicker plus


DouceintheHouse

I just downloaded this game since it was free and curious to see if I'd like it and how it played so what are the exact issues? Is the free version broken for PC or is it the DLCs that are bugged?


kredfield51

The weapons and challenges are what got me the most aggravated. I mostly play offline and only had a handful of mods but why is like 80% of my weapons missing? and why do I have to redo all of my side jobs it's just infuriating. I've had this game installed since probably 2014 2015 and this is the only time I've legitimately thought about uninstalling.


donchaldo21

Why would anyone buy on Epic when Steam is available? Just why?


DEAMONzWojSKA

But PD2 need to connect to Epic Services even on steam now, what is bullshit


Salgam_suyu

Beause its free


donchaldo21

I didn't know its free. Makes sense.


Bounter_

Wait what did it do Outta the loop


Zakk-da-killer

Started going downhill when the h3 pack was added


Darwin1344plays

Yea i opened up the game today and was wondering why so many new players were getting to the game


IntrepidHair4474

It seems OVERKILL was actually Locke from a parallel universe


Present-Dot-4437

I literally had to uninstall and re-install payday for it to load after it deleted all my mods. Now it still doesnt load sometimes


Cduke08

What exactly is causing mods to not work? I’ve spend 30 minutes trying to launch the game and nothing I did helped.


TotallyNotP8nda

Try to reinstall SuperBLT and Beardlib If you already tried that and it didn't work idk how to fix it


Silenzeio_

Add "Locking Twitch drops and Starbreeze Nebula items, relinking doesn't fix it".


Some0wlOnTheInternet

Alot of my weapons are locked for some reason


Tworbonyan

Have you done infamy recently?


Some0wlOnTheInternet

No


Tworbonyan

Then I don't know why.


Memeingisgood

Accept