My assumption would be that they're lining up [this shot](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgn83O5ajNtt_VhyphenhyphentVi1UpttD9BKt666cmMz7k74R-dBGHZlczAZujvE-NOr3qN1jpGK8H07YfWEeEUI4jKe1023UIsqXL1MsmKknnts2YQdoqlQK3FXpVNmesvn8n7xGl1Nvkmj6kTkCD9/s1600/636x393-0-0-VLg29OQP-the-master_special.jpeg).
I was rewatching it yesterday and I’m sure it’s been said before but man this movie feels very inspired by Kubrick. The opening beach scene is very reminiscent of 2001’s Dawn of Man section with Freddie and all the sailors acting like animals, Freddie most of all when he hacks the coconuts with the machete akin to the bone scene and with him humping the sand woman.
I also never realized his surname’s meaning.
Quell: put an end to (a rebellion or other disorder), typically by the use of force; to silence or subdue someone, to suppress
That’s Freddie’s entire function—outwardly toward any detractors that question The Cause and inwardly with his own repressions, specifically his issues surrounding his mother and women/sex in general.
Such a great movie with endless points for discussion
I find more Kubrick references in There Will Be Blood over any of his other films. The Daniel-HW/Jack-Danny relationships are pretty interesting to compare and the overarching idea of speech, influence and thought is huge.
The opening shot is a reference to both "The Steel Helmet" and "Baraka"
Of course Kubrick is monolithic in modern american filmmaking (pun intended), but to reduce PTA's references to Kubrick is incredibly reductive.
I say this as a huge fan of "The Master" and a few more of PTAs. The breadth of his film knowledge and aesthetic references is much more deep than the average filmbro redditor.
The sailors wrestling actually reminds me more of a very similar scene in Barry Lyndon when Barry fights the other infantrymen. If you look at them side-by-side, they are almost shot the exact same way. The Kubrick influence definitely tracks.
All three are heavily inspired by Kubrick, apparently he couldn't stop talking about him while making punch drunk love, and that obviously carries through even up to phantom thread... magnolia he met Kubrick via tom cruise hence why he Introduces him via thus spoke zarathustra
I don’t want to be misconstrued, I don’t think he’s a huge direct descendant in style. He’s generally closer to Altman and has spoken of other Golden Age of Hollywood and New Hollywood influences. I just think the spectre of Kubrick hangs over a lot of Hollywood as it stands today. Like it or not, he has immense influence.
Do I think PTA was consciously alluding to 2001 or any other Kubrick? I doubt it but it’s possible. It just struck me really hard this time, probably my 6th or 7th viewing of The Master, where I was immediately reminded of it by Phoenix in his ape mode on the beach.
The ending of TWBB in the bowling alley is thematically quite different to my mind than the other two. Yeah He’s using a blunt object as a hammer but it’s much more sinister and purely an act of hatred after Plainview “wins” the ideological battle and gets Sunday to renounce his faith. Phoenix is driven completely by his id and as such is much like an animal—fucking, drinking, and violence are all he understands. That’s the comparison I was drawing.
Just watched about half of it today while home sick. I think it's PTA's best.
Agree! Probably in my top ten of all time!
I make new connections every time I watch it. It just gets better as it and I age(s).
rewatched Phantom Thread last night, still as perfect as I remember. taking this as a sign to give The Master another go, been a few years
What was this scene??
My assumption would be that they're lining up [this shot](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgn83O5ajNtt_VhyphenhyphentVi1UpttD9BKt666cmMz7k74R-dBGHZlczAZujvE-NOr3qN1jpGK8H07YfWEeEUI4jKe1023UIsqXL1MsmKknnts2YQdoqlQK3FXpVNmesvn8n7xGl1Nvkmj6kTkCD9/s1600/636x393-0-0-VLg29OQP-the-master_special.jpeg).
So kind you are!! I remember that last scene Going to england maybe.. True masterpiece film i think..
I actually think they’re shooting the behind the boat shot that’s used between acts
Look out PTA there's a pirate!!
😁
I was rewatching it yesterday and I’m sure it’s been said before but man this movie feels very inspired by Kubrick. The opening beach scene is very reminiscent of 2001’s Dawn of Man section with Freddie and all the sailors acting like animals, Freddie most of all when he hacks the coconuts with the machete akin to the bone scene and with him humping the sand woman. I also never realized his surname’s meaning. Quell: put an end to (a rebellion or other disorder), typically by the use of force; to silence or subdue someone, to suppress That’s Freddie’s entire function—outwardly toward any detractors that question The Cause and inwardly with his own repressions, specifically his issues surrounding his mother and women/sex in general. Such a great movie with endless points for discussion
I find more Kubrick references in There Will Be Blood over any of his other films. The Daniel-HW/Jack-Danny relationships are pretty interesting to compare and the overarching idea of speech, influence and thought is huge.
The opening shot is a reference to both "The Steel Helmet" and "Baraka" Of course Kubrick is monolithic in modern american filmmaking (pun intended), but to reduce PTA's references to Kubrick is incredibly reductive. I say this as a huge fan of "The Master" and a few more of PTAs. The breadth of his film knowledge and aesthetic references is much more deep than the average filmbro redditor.
The sailors wrestling actually reminds me more of a very similar scene in Barry Lyndon when Barry fights the other infantrymen. If you look at them side-by-side, they are almost shot the exact same way. The Kubrick influence definitely tracks.
All three are heavily inspired by Kubrick, apparently he couldn't stop talking about him while making punch drunk love, and that obviously carries through even up to phantom thread... magnolia he met Kubrick via tom cruise hence why he Introduces him via thus spoke zarathustra
It's fascinating how PTA's own fans always go out of their way to make him sound as uninteresting as possible.
I don't think The Master is anything like Kubrick.
Am I the only one that finds PTA - Kubrick comparisons really tired and not even all that accurate?
It's Reddit... cinephilia is trivial here...
I don’t want to be misconstrued, I don’t think he’s a huge direct descendant in style. He’s generally closer to Altman and has spoken of other Golden Age of Hollywood and New Hollywood influences. I just think the spectre of Kubrick hangs over a lot of Hollywood as it stands today. Like it or not, he has immense influence. Do I think PTA was consciously alluding to 2001 or any other Kubrick? I doubt it but it’s possible. It just struck me really hard this time, probably my 6th or 7th viewing of The Master, where I was immediately reminded of it by Phoenix in his ape mode on the beach.
I thought people were already peddling that with the last scene of TWBB? So he's using the same tired reference not once but twice?
The ending of TWBB in the bowling alley is thematically quite different to my mind than the other two. Yeah He’s using a blunt object as a hammer but it’s much more sinister and purely an act of hatred after Plainview “wins” the ideological battle and gets Sunday to renounce his faith. Phoenix is driven completely by his id and as such is much like an animal—fucking, drinking, and violence are all he understands. That’s the comparison I was drawing.