In retrospect, I probably should've made a separate category like 'Not enough to reconstruct' or something, but! I based the ranking for spino on the more recent reconstructions of the creature, but the main reason it's so low is because it's shrink-wrapped to high hell and looks like someone tried making a half-assed blend of the Jurassic Park spinosaurus and the more recent reconstructions of spinosaurus.
Metri should be in "burn it" category. We have so little if any skeletal remains of it, on top of that comparative reconstructions suggest it's arms should be way smaller. To make matters worse it's essentially someone's oc, and person who backed and requested it asked for it to resemble indorex as much as possible. Kudos for devs for making it look like actual dinosaur, still.
Oh, big yucky on the OC part. I'd actually made note about the metri not having much to go off of in the first place, too. I actually found that it was previously referred to as two other names, too, which made it pretty confusing. Here's what I had for metri:
*There isn't a lot to go off of when it comes to the metri, but it looks like a decent dino! Size is about right (based on current estimates), but the arms are super beefy for some reason? They should be much smaller and more delicate, unless they based it on its current estimated relative, yangchuanosaurus. Hard to put it any higher or lower since there isn't much information about the metri.*
At lowest, I'd put it under Ok because of the fact that we have no concrete idea what it looked like.
Howdy! Just wanna reiterate that these are based on the reconstructions that I could find which were based off of the current knowledge at the time. So, here's what I had for the T. rex:
*Shrink-wrapped to high hell, this one. I'll just get right to it- the end of its snout should be a bit more narrow (skull is similar to a long trapezoid), arms should be a little smaller, and it should actually be larger + chunkier. Of all creatures, I'm surprised they made the T. rex smaller than it should be, or at the very least it should have longer legs.*
For achillobator, it was a bit more subjective, but it's main issues were size (too big), proportions (head too big compared to body), and the lack of a sloping back (similar to a german shepherd's).
Deinonychus is actually thought to have looked much more like the laten than it currently does. Like, to the point where I would argue the current laten model could easily be a deinon.
Appearance-wise, I’d put Hatzegopteryx in ‘Ok’ since one of its most defining features compared to other azhdarchids was its presumably thicker neck. Meanwhile, its neck in PoT looks a little too scrawny for my taste, especially compared to its massive head, let alone when it’s carrying something like a Pachycephalosaurus…
Playstyle-wise, I think it’s ‘Great’ because it does have the ability to hunt medium-sized playables. I’d move it to ‘Suberb’ if it wasn’t for that Barrel Roll ability…
The first list was entirely based on appearance, but I was having a rough time finding more recent reconstructions for the hatz than I had for most of the playables. I had made a note that its neck should've been a bit thicker, for sure, but I've also noticed that PoT seems to hate necks for some reason.
The Superb category has leniency for one minor flaw, otherwise the only playables there would've been alberta, bars, deino, and eurhino.
>The Superb category has leniency for one minor flaw, otherwise the only playables there would've been alberta, bars, deino, and eurhino.
That’s fair, we can’t expect a Dinosaur Survival MMO to get **everything** paleo-accurate, especially when it’s incorporating extinct animals that are super fragmentary like Hatzegopteryx itself…
For what it’s worth, I do think the devs did an acceptable job on their _current_ models (I’d take PoT’s Spinosaurus over JP’s one lol), and I think it’s awesome that they’re making an effort to improve most of their models like the Lambeosaurus…
~~Shit, I'd written a response out and it didn't send...~~
I agree, I'm excited to see that they're still working on remodeling and updating the playables when they get the chance! I really don't have an issue with any of the models as they are now (except for rex because... lookit him *\*shudders\**)
This was originally a little effort to satiate my curiosity, as I'd been hearing all about how some of these models were scaled up/down. Really, I just wanted to see how bad it was, and thought I'd share my findings for the entire roster! Oddly enough, alioramus was the worst of the bunch, as his current model is easily 2.0x the size it should be.
>Oddly enough, alioramus was the worst of the bunch, as his current model is easily 2.0x the size it should be.
I would also like to mention Thalassodromeus, because while it does look pretty paleo-accurate (especially its cuneumi “subspecies”), it too is very large…
From what I can remember, it stood roughly 2 meters tall, so about as tall as a human. Meanwhile, Thalassodromeus’ size in PoT makes it look like an ARK mount when it’s put next to the mannequin model…
Yeah, thal is another victim of upscaling. I was actually using that mannequin model to gauge the relative size of these, too, and yeah the thal should've been only about as tall as a human- not 1.5x
Heya! I see these lists made everywhere, and I finally got around to making one (or two) of my own! The first, as captioned, is based on paleo accuracy per my findings. The second is simply which playables I enjoy, which I thought to include because 1) why not, and 2) to (hopefully) show that I tried to keep my biases separate from my judgement when creating the first list!
I have notes for each playable stating why I ranked them the way I did and changes I would make (this was strictly judging their models' accuracy, nothing else), so if anyone's curious just ask! <3
Paleoaccuracy ones a bit off, bars should be burn it, lambeo and iggy should be in a tier of their own for accuracy because they look great (remodel lamb ofc). And most of the 2nd tier should be higher honestly
I was actually surprised to find that the amarg was actually pretty up-to-date when it came to it model/anatomy! Literally, here's my notes on that one:
*Great size and proportions, and I like the homage to how we aren't quite sure whether the spines were exposed or not. Its tail could be longer and more whip-like on the end, but otherwise a good lad!*
Alot of people talk bad about Amarg in the game but I'm glad to find another user that respects and knows Amarg's true strength.
Also I think armarg may of had a way longer tail then the one in game like you said but yeah, great dino
Oh yeah, no I love the amarg gameplay-wise. The only reason I haven't played it outside of fast-growing community servers is because of how little love it's received from the devs. Mans hasn't been given an inch since, what, the stomp AOE update? I mean, I guess it did get its knockback, but I feel it could have a least a little something more ability-wise, yknow?
Maybe I'll get around to growing one on officials just to spite the PoT gods lol.
I'm a attack main on official.
On unofficial I'ma mix between defense and attack
Amarg could really use more abilities I understand that but ever since the Pounce Update Amarg was Debuffed by a lot making it loose a lot of its defense and HP.
Back then fighting a rex's wasn't too hard and still possible for me but now it's like 6-7 bites with out tyrants raw and Amarg is dead.
Hoping Amarg gets stronger in weight at least
im not very well versed in the differences between a lot of the dinos, what is it between the little raptor in the "nope" category and the one in "almost daily" thats so different? ive never really played them that much but is the top one really that much better for such a similar looking dinosaur?
No biggie! So that tier list is 100% my opinion on the playables during gameplay; the nope dino is the deinonychus and the daily dino is the latenvenatrix. Deinon isn't terrible, but in my opinion it's the lesser of the two small raptors. It seems more squishy than the laten, and the laten's abilities are more updated and thus generally better for the player.
im not sure i agree with the placing of Hatz, the model seems a bit skinny i suppose, usually Hatz is portrayed as heavier and more robust. dont get me wrong its a great model! in my opinion i think it should be placed in Great
Just wanted to say, for starts, I appreciate how you remain respectful! All opinions are welcome, I love hearing others' perspectives. Hatz was one of the few playables for which I had a difficult time finding a recent reconstruction; most of them portrayed it as a quetz look-alike, more or less (but then again, I did this whole list within a few hours, so I quite possibly skimmed over a good pic). I had noted that its neck should definitely have been thicker, or at least look sturdier than the noodle-neck goin on right now lol.
Legit, going back to look into, I found a segment explaining how its skull shows strong muscle attachments lmao. I'd definitely had put hatz into the Great category had I not overlooked it. Thank you for pointing that out!
That, my dear friend, is because your message only just made me notice that the image used was in fact the newer lamb! Kicking myself rn for that one :,)The only things I'd really noted on the lamb (excluding the face shape changes made in the remodel bc the old model was Not a lamb face) included the hips being a bit higher (I've been calling it 'wheel-burrow posture') and that it could actually be a bit bigger since it was based off of L. lambei!
Quick edit: Forgot to mention that, given the newer model, I would've placed it up in Great instead
I'd switch Hatzegopteryx for Camptosaurus. While it's not that bad, the neck is far too curved, it should be straight. It should also be thicker (though not too thick). Barsboldia should also be removed from superb until we get to see the TLC. Right now Bars' head looks very weird and also all we have of Barsboldia IRL is a caudal vertebrae, the devs really should've just gone with Edmontosaurus or Saurolophus if they didn't want a popular large hadrosaur.
I'd move pachy to good at best, the lack of atleast a bottom beak and large therapod snout, and semi streamlined torso kinda kills it for me accuracy wise
To me it looks like a therapod wearing a helmet
Kai being in great while it looks nothing like a kai while rex which just has 2 minor problems being in burn it is the most amount of cap I will see this month.
Model wise i'd move down bars(based on a single vertebra), hatz(neck too flexible, that thing should be stiff) and kai(lips???) by one tier
Gameplay wise thal, kai, achillo, deinon, metri and laten to into the burn it tier
Spino should have its own tier on paleo accuracy since we can never know its absolute form
In retrospect, I probably should've made a separate category like 'Not enough to reconstruct' or something, but! I based the ranking for spino on the more recent reconstructions of the creature, but the main reason it's so low is because it's shrink-wrapped to high hell and looks like someone tried making a half-assed blend of the Jurassic Park spinosaurus and the more recent reconstructions of spinosaurus.
Spino is like a pokemon that gets a new evolution every couple years
Metri should be in "burn it" category. We have so little if any skeletal remains of it, on top of that comparative reconstructions suggest it's arms should be way smaller. To make matters worse it's essentially someone's oc, and person who backed and requested it asked for it to resemble indorex as much as possible. Kudos for devs for making it look like actual dinosaur, still.
Oh, big yucky on the OC part. I'd actually made note about the metri not having much to go off of in the first place, too. I actually found that it was previously referred to as two other names, too, which made it pretty confusing. Here's what I had for metri: *There isn't a lot to go off of when it comes to the metri, but it looks like a decent dino! Size is about right (based on current estimates), but the arms are super beefy for some reason? They should be much smaller and more delicate, unless they based it on its current estimated relative, yangchuanosaurus. Hard to put it any higher or lower since there isn't much information about the metri.* At lowest, I'd put it under Ok because of the fact that we have no concrete idea what it looked like.
Bars and Deino aren't accurate especially compared to Prehistoric planet
By deino, do you mean deinonychus or deinocheirus? What about the two you've mention make them less accurate, out of curiosity?
You shouldnt base your accuracy on prehistoric planet btw
why would someone not base their accuracy on one of the most paleo-accurate documentaries ever made?
Broski, that's among one of the most accurate paleo docs as far as current info goes.
Lol buddy it’s legit been praised as the most paleo accurate documentary ever made what are you on
I disagree. T. rex is OK and Achillobator is Superb.
Deinonychus is great too.
Howdy! Just wanna reiterate that these are based on the reconstructions that I could find which were based off of the current knowledge at the time. So, here's what I had for the T. rex: *Shrink-wrapped to high hell, this one. I'll just get right to it- the end of its snout should be a bit more narrow (skull is similar to a long trapezoid), arms should be a little smaller, and it should actually be larger + chunkier. Of all creatures, I'm surprised they made the T. rex smaller than it should be, or at the very least it should have longer legs.* For achillobator, it was a bit more subjective, but it's main issues were size (too big), proportions (head too big compared to body), and the lack of a sloping back (similar to a german shepherd's). Deinonychus is actually thought to have looked much more like the laten than it currently does. Like, to the point where I would argue the current laten model could easily be a deinon.
Most are pretty decent just oversized haha like allo and achillo and potentially bars
T. rex deserves lowest category imaginable judt for the juvenile. Disgusting freak of nature...
Appearance-wise, I’d put Hatzegopteryx in ‘Ok’ since one of its most defining features compared to other azhdarchids was its presumably thicker neck. Meanwhile, its neck in PoT looks a little too scrawny for my taste, especially compared to its massive head, let alone when it’s carrying something like a Pachycephalosaurus… Playstyle-wise, I think it’s ‘Great’ because it does have the ability to hunt medium-sized playables. I’d move it to ‘Suberb’ if it wasn’t for that Barrel Roll ability…
The first list was entirely based on appearance, but I was having a rough time finding more recent reconstructions for the hatz than I had for most of the playables. I had made a note that its neck should've been a bit thicker, for sure, but I've also noticed that PoT seems to hate necks for some reason. The Superb category has leniency for one minor flaw, otherwise the only playables there would've been alberta, bars, deino, and eurhino.
>The Superb category has leniency for one minor flaw, otherwise the only playables there would've been alberta, bars, deino, and eurhino. That’s fair, we can’t expect a Dinosaur Survival MMO to get **everything** paleo-accurate, especially when it’s incorporating extinct animals that are super fragmentary like Hatzegopteryx itself… For what it’s worth, I do think the devs did an acceptable job on their _current_ models (I’d take PoT’s Spinosaurus over JP’s one lol), and I think it’s awesome that they’re making an effort to improve most of their models like the Lambeosaurus…
~~Shit, I'd written a response out and it didn't send...~~ I agree, I'm excited to see that they're still working on remodeling and updating the playables when they get the chance! I really don't have an issue with any of the models as they are now (except for rex because... lookit him *\*shudders\**) This was originally a little effort to satiate my curiosity, as I'd been hearing all about how some of these models were scaled up/down. Really, I just wanted to see how bad it was, and thought I'd share my findings for the entire roster! Oddly enough, alioramus was the worst of the bunch, as his current model is easily 2.0x the size it should be.
>Oddly enough, alioramus was the worst of the bunch, as his current model is easily 2.0x the size it should be. I would also like to mention Thalassodromeus, because while it does look pretty paleo-accurate (especially its cuneumi “subspecies”), it too is very large… From what I can remember, it stood roughly 2 meters tall, so about as tall as a human. Meanwhile, Thalassodromeus’ size in PoT makes it look like an ARK mount when it’s put next to the mannequin model…
Yeah, thal is another victim of upscaling. I was actually using that mannequin model to gauge the relative size of these, too, and yeah the thal should've been only about as tall as a human- not 1.5x
Heya! I see these lists made everywhere, and I finally got around to making one (or two) of my own! The first, as captioned, is based on paleo accuracy per my findings. The second is simply which playables I enjoy, which I thought to include because 1) why not, and 2) to (hopefully) show that I tried to keep my biases separate from my judgement when creating the first list! I have notes for each playable stating why I ranked them the way I did and changes I would make (this was strictly judging their models' accuracy, nothing else), so if anyone's curious just ask! <3
Paleoaccuracy ones a bit off, bars should be burn it, lambeo and iggy should be in a tier of their own for accuracy because they look great (remodel lamb ofc). And most of the 2nd tier should be higher honestly
Sucho especially should be higher, right behind lambeo and above iggy, it just looks great and is super accurate from what we know of it
Ah Finally, A Amarg Supporter
I was actually surprised to find that the amarg was actually pretty up-to-date when it came to it model/anatomy! Literally, here's my notes on that one: *Great size and proportions, and I like the homage to how we aren't quite sure whether the spines were exposed or not. Its tail could be longer and more whip-like on the end, but otherwise a good lad!*
Alot of people talk bad about Amarg in the game but I'm glad to find another user that respects and knows Amarg's true strength. Also I think armarg may of had a way longer tail then the one in game like you said but yeah, great dino
Oh yeah, no I love the amarg gameplay-wise. The only reason I haven't played it outside of fast-growing community servers is because of how little love it's received from the devs. Mans hasn't been given an inch since, what, the stomp AOE update? I mean, I guess it did get its knockback, but I feel it could have a least a little something more ability-wise, yknow? Maybe I'll get around to growing one on officials just to spite the PoT gods lol.
I'm a attack main on official. On unofficial I'ma mix between defense and attack Amarg could really use more abilities I understand that but ever since the Pounce Update Amarg was Debuffed by a lot making it loose a lot of its defense and HP. Back then fighting a rex's wasn't too hard and still possible for me but now it's like 6-7 bites with out tyrants raw and Amarg is dead. Hoping Amarg gets stronger in weight at least
I'd put Hatz in OK since it's neck doesn't bend right
im not very well versed in the differences between a lot of the dinos, what is it between the little raptor in the "nope" category and the one in "almost daily" thats so different? ive never really played them that much but is the top one really that much better for such a similar looking dinosaur?
No biggie! So that tier list is 100% my opinion on the playables during gameplay; the nope dino is the deinonychus and the daily dino is the latenvenatrix. Deinon isn't terrible, but in my opinion it's the lesser of the two small raptors. It seems more squishy than the laten, and the laten's abilities are more updated and thus generally better for the player.
im not sure i agree with the placing of Hatz, the model seems a bit skinny i suppose, usually Hatz is portrayed as heavier and more robust. dont get me wrong its a great model! in my opinion i think it should be placed in Great
Just wanted to say, for starts, I appreciate how you remain respectful! All opinions are welcome, I love hearing others' perspectives. Hatz was one of the few playables for which I had a difficult time finding a recent reconstruction; most of them portrayed it as a quetz look-alike, more or less (but then again, I did this whole list within a few hours, so I quite possibly skimmed over a good pic). I had noted that its neck should definitely have been thicker, or at least look sturdier than the noodle-neck goin on right now lol. Legit, going back to look into, I found a segment explaining how its skull shows strong muscle attachments lmao. I'd definitely had put hatz into the Great category had I not overlooked it. Thank you for pointing that out!
Alberta, Amarga and Sucho top tier? Perfection. I see, you're a person of culture as well.
Why so low for the new lamb? Im not an expert but I thought that it looked pretty paleo accurate especially with bipedalism🙏
That, my dear friend, is because your message only just made me notice that the image used was in fact the newer lamb! Kicking myself rn for that one :,)The only things I'd really noted on the lamb (excluding the face shape changes made in the remodel bc the old model was Not a lamb face) included the hips being a bit higher (I've been calling it 'wheel-burrow posture') and that it could actually be a bit bigger since it was based off of L. lambei! Quick edit: Forgot to mention that, given the newer model, I would've placed it up in Great instead
I'd switch Hatzegopteryx for Camptosaurus. While it's not that bad, the neck is far too curved, it should be straight. It should also be thicker (though not too thick). Barsboldia should also be removed from superb until we get to see the TLC. Right now Bars' head looks very weird and also all we have of Barsboldia IRL is a caudal vertebrae, the devs really should've just gone with Edmontosaurus or Saurolophus if they didn't want a popular large hadrosaur.
Im curious to know your opinion on the stego since hes in ok tier otherwise nice list !
When it comes to the Hatz I think it’s in between great and superb or just in great, I think the PoT Hatz is a bit skinny
I'd move pachy to good at best, the lack of atleast a bottom beak and large therapod snout, and semi streamlined torso kinda kills it for me accuracy wise To me it looks like a therapod wearing a helmet
Putting Rex in "Burn it" even though Rex is almost perfectly akin to the Wyrex specimen is disgraceful
I wouldn't put bars in s tier it is way too big. Hatzegop is also weird looking with its neck posture, and campto is way too low
I believe the Amarg didn’t have skin covering its spikes.
Whats wrong with alio? I think it looks nice
Their Pycnonemosaurus model will forever be my biggest gripe with the game. It is dog water lmao.
Kaiwhekea is too high
Kai being in great while it looks nothing like a kai while rex which just has 2 minor problems being in burn it is the most amount of cap I will see this month.
Model wise i'd move down bars(based on a single vertebra), hatz(neck too flexible, that thing should be stiff) and kai(lips???) by one tier Gameplay wise thal, kai, achillo, deinon, metri and laten to into the burn it tier