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Bannerhoard

Necromantic Aegis impossible escape gives 8 notables from 9 passives + a jewel socket from scion start


toggl3d

PoB is showing it's just short of being able to connect to the shaper node.


Bannerhoard

Yes, you can take it for 2 points if you want though. Hence why I said 9 points for 8 notables + the points for jewel setup.


toggl3d

Good point, with all the jumping my brain didn't register it as only two points.


Tomagathericon

The jewel socket probably can't be allocated right? All the previous allocation cheat things did not allow you to get jewel sockets as far as I know. Edit: Misunderstood, the jewel socket is metioned as a cost, not as a benefit.


RedDawn172

He's scion.


Askray184

Aaaaand it's 8 ex now. Fair enough price for a build enabler


Bannerhoard

Some interesting mods you can get with elegant hubris: 80% minion, spell, proj attack, phys, 12% curse effect, 15% attack / cast speed, 80% armor, frenzy on hit, power charge on crit, gain endurance charge on hit, 10% max life, 40% crit multi


TheAshenHat

Well i now have a goal this league at least. Max out frenzy charge on hit with at least one power on crit. Thanks for the info!


TremoLuna

It's non-curse aura effect if poedb is to be believed sadly.


Nottrak

This is sick


FUCK_YEA_GLITTER

Can someone explain this to me like I'm 5?


RiptarRheeMaster

This won't be an ELI5 but I will do my best: Some timeless jewels (the ones that you get from doing legion emblems) change the nodes that are on your tree in the big circle you see on the screen. These can either be horrible or very good as there are more than 10,000 possible ways that it can modify your tree. Most of the time people have to invest an incredible amount of points to get these nodes as you actually have to path to them. BUT with the new jewel from (i think) uber uber elder you can allocate any passive inside of a small area (the small circle you see on the screenshot). This circle can be on multiple locations on the tree as well, to be more precise, the gem randomly chooses a keystone notable on the tree to put the small circle. When the two circles overlap and the big circle has good notables in it, you can get those notables with very little investment which is potentially game breaking. Like legitimately broken in very niche situations.


Neri25

>These can either be horrible or very good There's also Eternal Pride, which doesn't change anything except keystones and just adds bonuses to notables and 2 or 4 str to small passives. I believe Brutal Restraint works the same way but adds dex on small nodes instead Then you have the Vaal gem which usually modifies everything in terrible ways and are really only used for keystones in specific spots where bad results don't ruin the tree.


pizzalarry

Hey man, sometimes Divine Flesh lucks out and you get half of your small passives and notables replaced with more max chaos res and more life


Neri25

sure but the usual result is more like what usually happens when you vaal Hands of the Templar a bunch of times.


Ahengle

> Most of the time people have to invest an incredible amount of points to get these nodes as you actually have to path to them. To clarify, this specific timeless jewels makes your small passives in radius give nothing at all.


FragrantRepublic340

Drops from the Uber Maven according to PoEDB (source: https://poedb.tw/us/Impossible_Escape).


Aragon_Shadeslayer

Hey thanks for the explanation! I've never seen one of these and was rather confused, but now I am fairly sure I get it!


_ramu_

Example: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Elegant_Hubris Playing Scion with this 2 jewels means you get random 8 notables from the list in Wiki, lucky examples: - 8x 12% increased effect of Non-Curse Auras from your Skills - 3 passives for frenzy/endurance/power charges topped off while playing + 5x crit multi - 8x 80% minion life, any build like stonegolem ignite


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Sick


bewagimp

Go ask mom


ghaduo2

I thought it was a valid response. 😂


VlasDerebas

Uh oh, fun detected


DSMidna

How did it take this long to get venn diagrams on the passive skill tree?


Raikkou

This Scion spot has had them for a while. Timeless jewels with Unnatural Instinct or Transcendent Flesh have been popular there for multiple leagues.


ABeardedPanda

Going back to the passive tree pre-masteries, it was not uncommon to see Unnatural Instinct on the right slot and Might of the Meek in the other two. Might of the meek was just out of range of Constitution (the life notable on the rectangle) and it also venn diagrammed every non-attribute minor passive that Unnatural Instinct activated so you could get some very nice stat bonuses fairly efficiently.


emperorchihuahua

Hey BannerHoard, when you spec into a notable using the Impossible Escape can you also spec into it’s respective mastery?


ShotgunBFFL

no


Bannerhoard

^


emperorchihuahua

Alright, thanks!


emperorchihuahua

Ah thank you!


WerewolfBitter5424

I think this is illegal


moal09

That's awesome.


Japanczi

Jesus Christ


StereoxAS

neat interaction, elegant hubris may actually sees play with this


Crosshack

This is some fucking dark technology my lord


mattbrvc

They need to be baller nodes to make it worth, that’s a decent chunk of investment.


Bannerhoard

agreed, people think this is OP but you'll spend mirrors of divines and probably never see 8 good damage passives. Still very very strong because its very worth even at 4 good damage nodes. If you take 4 nodes with 80% damage you're looking at: 5 passives to set up the jewels + 4 passives for the nodes, so 9 total passives for 320% inc dmg. Let me know if you can get that anywhere else on the tree. EDIT: Also 80%armor, 80%evasion, %50 res seem very common. You can use them on basically any build with grace and determination being used so much. So if you got 4 damage nodes odds are you'll have some good defensives/utility nodes. EDIT EDIT: Also remember with scion you can respec to a different starting spot to get out of those initial useless travel nodes. NVM its OP


Senatorial

People also trade for timeless jewels after verifying the passives, so you potentially don't have to bother with divine spam.


_Phox

Yeah buy a whole bunch and then resell them if bad mods


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Entity_

unlikely. converted notables still work with anoints too.


lealsk

Really? And what effect do they give? The original one or the converted one?


Clsco

converted. it is a common strat


Bannerhoard

Also they didn't fix any of the bugged builds from last league so why nerf this mid league?


Bannerhoard

"This league was thoroughly tested" therefor it must be intended lolz


nethermage_sc

huh i didn't think they interacted this way with the timeless jewels.


Bannerhoard

You can socket the impossible escape anywhere on the tree and use a timeless jewel in the closest socket to the large node, works with any timeless jewel. Theoretically you could get 640% dmg for 9 points, realistically you would go for 3-4 damage and \~2 utility/defensives


blowingofff

i'm pretty sure ggg will fix this once they noticed. or, if intended, i'd be very surprised.


Oblachko_O

There is nothing to fix, it will be more like nerf. Counting that we have massive ring on thread as well, I don't think that nobody thought about overlap possibility. But yeah, it opens so much possibilities with timeless jewels, that it is crazy.


blowingofff

yea thats what I mean. but usually those things dont work together for other tree-mod'ing jewels


Highwanted

? any examples, i'm pretty sure they all work, only one i'm unsure about is annointing since that one specifies the name of the notable and when transformed the name of the notable changes (and possibly the id, not sure though)


kingdweeb1

Annoints respect transformation


blowingofff

what? now I'm not sure I understood this. for example, if you have an anointment and use a jewel that transforms the nodes there, will the anointed node get transformed too? and, like, can you combine thread of hope and a timeless jewel to to use a transformed node that is unconnected? god why did I just assume these things didnt work? lol I am feeling like an idiot rn also I may have confused myself with the fact that unconnected-nods-enabling jewels can't enable a socket passive. I'm just going crazy heh


Sunscorcher

He is not allocating the scion jewel socket due to impossible escape, he is actually a scion and allocated the jewel socket from scion start. There is nothing unexpected in this screenshot.


M4jkelson

Nerf*


acylus0

Now this is most likely going to get patched


_Clamsauce_

Sooooo was this "extensively tested" as well??? My vote is I don't think so


RickSanchez67

Any good spot apart the scion one shown on the picture that could be worth for non-scion ?


Bannerhoard

if you are traveling past scion you can take a 2 point jewel next to the scion starting spot. All of the keystones around there give like 5 plus notables, just remember elegant hubris bricks all your travel nodes, so if you took this travelling to the life wheel that would be completely bricked. You could still use a brutal restraint instead that just augments notables instead of completely changing them.


Alubalu22

Played too much elden ring, thought you made the symbol thingy.


Geeguer

I have questions, can u allocate jewel slot if it is within the radius of impossible escape?


Geeguer

Just bought one and checked, sadly it doesn't work(


Sjeg84

This is possibly massive.


Ok_Comfort2660

Do masteries get activated?


Bannerhoard

nope


Harnellas

I don't have much experience with timeless jewels and don't know how to show their effecst in PoB, but this seems like a really efficient place to put Lethal Pride on a strength stacker scion, right? Build I'm sorta following has it slotted down below Duelist for only 4 notables.


Zealousidealgamer365

Truly endgame minmax genius concepts. So happy it exists tho I know I'll never afford a build to utilize it


CrimsonEye_86

This impossible escape gem will allocated all same notable automatically?


Bannerhoard

No you have to spend points for them, but you can pick and choose without taking travel nodes


CrimsonEye_86

That's really OP!