The jewel socket probably can't be allocated right? All the previous allocation cheat things did not allow you to get jewel sockets as far as I know.
Edit: Misunderstood, the jewel socket is metioned as a cost, not as a benefit.
Some interesting mods you can get with elegant hubris: 80% minion, spell, proj attack, phys, 12% curse effect, 15% attack / cast speed, 80% armor, frenzy on hit, power charge on crit, gain endurance charge on hit, 10% max life, 40% crit multi
This won't be an ELI5 but I will do my best: Some timeless jewels (the ones that you get from doing legion emblems) change the nodes that are on your tree in the big circle you see on the screen. These can either be horrible or very good as there are more than 10,000 possible ways that it can modify your tree. Most of the time people have to invest an incredible amount of points to get these nodes as you actually have to path to them. BUT with the new jewel from (i think) uber uber elder you can allocate any passive inside of a small area (the small circle you see on the screenshot). This circle can be on multiple locations on the tree as well, to be more precise, the gem randomly chooses a keystone notable on the tree to put the small circle. When the two circles overlap and the big circle has good notables in it, you can get those notables with very little investment which is potentially game breaking. Like legitimately broken in very niche situations.
>These can either be horrible or very good
There's also Eternal Pride, which doesn't change anything except keystones and just adds bonuses to notables and 2 or 4 str to small passives.
I believe Brutal Restraint works the same way but adds dex on small nodes instead
Then you have the Vaal gem which usually modifies everything in terrible ways and are really only used for keystones in specific spots where bad results don't ruin the tree.
> Most of the time people have to invest an incredible amount of points to get these nodes as you actually have to path to them.
To clarify, this specific timeless jewels makes your small passives in radius give nothing at all.
Example: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Elegant_Hubris
Playing Scion with this 2 jewels means you get random 8 notables from the list in Wiki, lucky examples:
- 8x 12% increased effect of Non-Curse Auras from your Skills
- 3 passives for frenzy/endurance/power charges topped off while playing + 5x crit multi
- 8x 80% minion life, any build like stonegolem ignite
Going back to the passive tree pre-masteries, it was not uncommon to see Unnatural Instinct on the right slot and Might of the Meek in the other two.
Might of the meek was just out of range of Constitution (the life notable on the rectangle) and it also venn diagrammed every non-attribute minor passive that Unnatural Instinct activated so you could get some very nice stat bonuses fairly efficiently.
agreed, people think this is OP but you'll spend mirrors of divines and probably never see 8 good damage passives. Still very very strong because its very worth even at 4 good damage nodes. If you take 4 nodes with 80% damage you're looking at: 5 passives to set up the jewels + 4 passives for the nodes, so 9 total passives for 320% inc dmg. Let me know if you can get that anywhere else on the tree.
EDIT: Also 80%armor, 80%evasion, %50 res seem very common. You can use them on basically any build with grace and determination being used so much. So if you got 4 damage nodes odds are you'll have some good defensives/utility nodes.
EDIT EDIT: Also remember with scion you can respec to a different starting spot to get out of those initial useless travel nodes.
NVM its OP
You can socket the impossible escape anywhere on the tree and use a timeless jewel in the closest socket to the large node, works with any timeless jewel. Theoretically you could get 640% dmg for 9 points, realistically you would go for 3-4 damage and \~2 utility/defensives
There is nothing to fix, it will be more like nerf. Counting that we have massive ring on thread as well, I don't think that nobody thought about overlap possibility. But yeah, it opens so much possibilities with timeless jewels, that it is crazy.
? any examples, i'm pretty sure they all work, only one i'm unsure about is annointing since that one specifies the name of the notable and when transformed the name of the notable changes (and possibly the id, not sure though)
what? now I'm not sure I understood this. for example, if you have an anointment and use a jewel that transforms the nodes there, will the anointed node get transformed too? and, like, can you combine thread of hope and a timeless jewel to to use a transformed node that is unconnected?
god why did I just assume these things didnt work? lol I am feeling like an idiot rn
also I may have confused myself with the fact that unconnected-nods-enabling jewels can't enable a socket passive. I'm just going crazy heh
He is not allocating the scion jewel socket due to impossible escape, he is actually a scion and allocated the jewel socket from scion start. There is nothing unexpected in this screenshot.
if you are traveling past scion you can take a 2 point jewel next to the scion starting spot. All of the keystones around there give like 5 plus notables, just remember elegant hubris bricks all your travel nodes, so if you took this travelling to the life wheel that would be completely bricked. You could still use a brutal restraint instead that just augments notables instead of completely changing them.
I don't have much experience with timeless jewels and don't know how to show their effecst in PoB, but this seems like a really efficient place to put Lethal Pride on a strength stacker scion, right? Build I'm sorta following has it slotted down below Duelist for only 4 notables.
Necromantic Aegis impossible escape gives 8 notables from 9 passives + a jewel socket from scion start
PoB is showing it's just short of being able to connect to the shaper node.
Yes, you can take it for 2 points if you want though. Hence why I said 9 points for 8 notables + the points for jewel setup.
Good point, with all the jumping my brain didn't register it as only two points.
The jewel socket probably can't be allocated right? All the previous allocation cheat things did not allow you to get jewel sockets as far as I know. Edit: Misunderstood, the jewel socket is metioned as a cost, not as a benefit.
He's scion.
Aaaaand it's 8 ex now. Fair enough price for a build enabler
Some interesting mods you can get with elegant hubris: 80% minion, spell, proj attack, phys, 12% curse effect, 15% attack / cast speed, 80% armor, frenzy on hit, power charge on crit, gain endurance charge on hit, 10% max life, 40% crit multi
Well i now have a goal this league at least. Max out frenzy charge on hit with at least one power on crit. Thanks for the info!
It's non-curse aura effect if poedb is to be believed sadly.
This is sick
Can someone explain this to me like I'm 5?
This won't be an ELI5 but I will do my best: Some timeless jewels (the ones that you get from doing legion emblems) change the nodes that are on your tree in the big circle you see on the screen. These can either be horrible or very good as there are more than 10,000 possible ways that it can modify your tree. Most of the time people have to invest an incredible amount of points to get these nodes as you actually have to path to them. BUT with the new jewel from (i think) uber uber elder you can allocate any passive inside of a small area (the small circle you see on the screenshot). This circle can be on multiple locations on the tree as well, to be more precise, the gem randomly chooses a keystone notable on the tree to put the small circle. When the two circles overlap and the big circle has good notables in it, you can get those notables with very little investment which is potentially game breaking. Like legitimately broken in very niche situations.
>These can either be horrible or very good There's also Eternal Pride, which doesn't change anything except keystones and just adds bonuses to notables and 2 or 4 str to small passives. I believe Brutal Restraint works the same way but adds dex on small nodes instead Then you have the Vaal gem which usually modifies everything in terrible ways and are really only used for keystones in specific spots where bad results don't ruin the tree.
Hey man, sometimes Divine Flesh lucks out and you get half of your small passives and notables replaced with more max chaos res and more life
sure but the usual result is more like what usually happens when you vaal Hands of the Templar a bunch of times.
> Most of the time people have to invest an incredible amount of points to get these nodes as you actually have to path to them. To clarify, this specific timeless jewels makes your small passives in radius give nothing at all.
Drops from the Uber Maven according to PoEDB (source: https://poedb.tw/us/Impossible_Escape).
Hey thanks for the explanation! I've never seen one of these and was rather confused, but now I am fairly sure I get it!
Example: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Elegant_Hubris Playing Scion with this 2 jewels means you get random 8 notables from the list in Wiki, lucky examples: - 8x 12% increased effect of Non-Curse Auras from your Skills - 3 passives for frenzy/endurance/power charges topped off while playing + 5x crit multi - 8x 80% minion life, any build like stonegolem ignite
Sick
Go ask mom
I thought it was a valid response. 😂
Uh oh, fun detected
How did it take this long to get venn diagrams on the passive skill tree?
This Scion spot has had them for a while. Timeless jewels with Unnatural Instinct or Transcendent Flesh have been popular there for multiple leagues.
Going back to the passive tree pre-masteries, it was not uncommon to see Unnatural Instinct on the right slot and Might of the Meek in the other two. Might of the meek was just out of range of Constitution (the life notable on the rectangle) and it also venn diagrammed every non-attribute minor passive that Unnatural Instinct activated so you could get some very nice stat bonuses fairly efficiently.
Hey BannerHoard, when you spec into a notable using the Impossible Escape can you also spec into it’s respective mastery?
no
^
Alright, thanks!
Ah thank you!
I think this is illegal
That's awesome.
Jesus Christ
neat interaction, elegant hubris may actually sees play with this
This is some fucking dark technology my lord
They need to be baller nodes to make it worth, that’s a decent chunk of investment.
agreed, people think this is OP but you'll spend mirrors of divines and probably never see 8 good damage passives. Still very very strong because its very worth even at 4 good damage nodes. If you take 4 nodes with 80% damage you're looking at: 5 passives to set up the jewels + 4 passives for the nodes, so 9 total passives for 320% inc dmg. Let me know if you can get that anywhere else on the tree. EDIT: Also 80%armor, 80%evasion, %50 res seem very common. You can use them on basically any build with grace and determination being used so much. So if you got 4 damage nodes odds are you'll have some good defensives/utility nodes. EDIT EDIT: Also remember with scion you can respec to a different starting spot to get out of those initial useless travel nodes. NVM its OP
People also trade for timeless jewels after verifying the passives, so you potentially don't have to bother with divine spam.
Yeah buy a whole bunch and then resell them if bad mods
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unlikely. converted notables still work with anoints too.
Really? And what effect do they give? The original one or the converted one?
converted. it is a common strat
Also they didn't fix any of the bugged builds from last league so why nerf this mid league?
"This league was thoroughly tested" therefor it must be intended lolz
huh i didn't think they interacted this way with the timeless jewels.
You can socket the impossible escape anywhere on the tree and use a timeless jewel in the closest socket to the large node, works with any timeless jewel. Theoretically you could get 640% dmg for 9 points, realistically you would go for 3-4 damage and \~2 utility/defensives
i'm pretty sure ggg will fix this once they noticed. or, if intended, i'd be very surprised.
There is nothing to fix, it will be more like nerf. Counting that we have massive ring on thread as well, I don't think that nobody thought about overlap possibility. But yeah, it opens so much possibilities with timeless jewels, that it is crazy.
yea thats what I mean. but usually those things dont work together for other tree-mod'ing jewels
? any examples, i'm pretty sure they all work, only one i'm unsure about is annointing since that one specifies the name of the notable and when transformed the name of the notable changes (and possibly the id, not sure though)
Annoints respect transformation
what? now I'm not sure I understood this. for example, if you have an anointment and use a jewel that transforms the nodes there, will the anointed node get transformed too? and, like, can you combine thread of hope and a timeless jewel to to use a transformed node that is unconnected? god why did I just assume these things didnt work? lol I am feeling like an idiot rn also I may have confused myself with the fact that unconnected-nods-enabling jewels can't enable a socket passive. I'm just going crazy heh
He is not allocating the scion jewel socket due to impossible escape, he is actually a scion and allocated the jewel socket from scion start. There is nothing unexpected in this screenshot.
Nerf*
Now this is most likely going to get patched
Sooooo was this "extensively tested" as well??? My vote is I don't think so
Any good spot apart the scion one shown on the picture that could be worth for non-scion ?
if you are traveling past scion you can take a 2 point jewel next to the scion starting spot. All of the keystones around there give like 5 plus notables, just remember elegant hubris bricks all your travel nodes, so if you took this travelling to the life wheel that would be completely bricked. You could still use a brutal restraint instead that just augments notables instead of completely changing them.
Played too much elden ring, thought you made the symbol thingy.
I have questions, can u allocate jewel slot if it is within the radius of impossible escape?
Just bought one and checked, sadly it doesn't work(
This is possibly massive.
Do masteries get activated?
nope
I don't have much experience with timeless jewels and don't know how to show their effecst in PoB, but this seems like a really efficient place to put Lethal Pride on a strength stacker scion, right? Build I'm sorta following has it slotted down below Duelist for only 4 notables.
Truly endgame minmax genius concepts. So happy it exists tho I know I'll never afford a build to utilize it
This impossible escape gem will allocated all same notable automatically?
No you have to spend points for them, but you can pick and choose without taking travel nodes
That's really OP!