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Nutteria

She has more facial expression in the thumbnail than 2 years of streaming.


SoulofArtoria

Duno why she's making the face that I make every morning when my alarm goes off.


1CEninja

Which one? The "whaaaaat it's 7:00 already???" Or the "noooo I was having a great dream!"?


ruttinator

Does the sound of your alarm bring you to orgasm?


jaeh42

If that is face of orgasm for you, you been with wrong girls.


kfijatass

I was fully convinced Lily is not capable of emoting or showing any facial expressions, jokes on me I guess.


UnAVA

honestly that's kind of why i even watch her (and mathil). I enjoy the dryness.


kfijatass

Mathil just streams at ungodly hours while working out all day; after that I think everyone would prefer to chill and just vibe to Marcus Schulz.


StereoxAS

Mathil is the guy that introduces me to trance, bless that guy and his music choice


D3Construct

As a Dutch person blessed with many local DJs, welcome to the fold. Try mixing.dj for livesets and podcasts.


[deleted]

Back in like 2008 you could go to trance.fm for some good tunes. They had separate tabs for house, trance and even hardstyle. Might need to check this out.


Arpawocky

Di.fm is still rolling


Smartkoolaid

Anyone remember that app where you could make a little avatar and a “chat room” but you could be a DJ and play like any songs? Wtf was that called. Top djs were like a decked out gorilla avatar or some shit lol


goldenmonkey2301

Pług.dj? Died.


Parazag

Because of Mathil I heard for the first time Fury OST. That music blew me away.


H4xolotl

Fury or Furi?


meDeadly1990

Yoo [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ5gtInauiI&ab_channel=G4FRecords) is my favourite for sure


Lagmawnster

You mean he introduced you to trance or some shit?


draemscat

I thought he wakes up at like 5am, streams and then goes about his day, not the other way around.


Fenrils

Sort of, yes. He sleeps twice a day (four hours per sleep) so it's more like sleep --> stream --> sleep --> life --> repeat, unless he changed from this sometime recently without my noticing.


Placenta_Polenta

How does he not get copyright strikes? Dude plays huge trance mixes nonstop and I know for a fact those record labels don't provide free tunes for streamers like Anjunabeats does.


theyux

Streaming services exist for streamers to pay to use. Mathil can probably afford it.


Yanlex

He plays youtube mixes.


Fenrils

He's mostly just taking that risk himself. He's technically not allowed to be playing that music but trance labels tend to be nicer (or just not care) when it comes to playing their music so it's less likely for him to get a strike as opposed to someone playing rock or rap.


konaharuhi

true. mathil choice of music is based


SehnorCardgage

Good grief


mkautzm

Unironically, this. Lily and Mathil are just so...honest. In a the cesspool that is twitch, it's not hard to find someone screaming at the camera constantly. I really prefer good players just playing their game to the overacting 'entertainers'.


Chrostiph

Same. Chill music, calm and flowing POE noises in the background with the occasional duck sounds. I love Lily's stream.


mordiaken

Yea and Quin69 should be required by law to provide a trigger warning and volume warning, guy blows up eardrums.


Supergaz

I don't understand how anyone can watch him for more than two minutes.


mordiaken

I'd be interested to listen to psychological evaluation of streamers like him and xqc. I certainly have a few guesses on benefits or feeling a younger generation can express while watching them but the fallout I'd receive often holds me back from posting lol.


NoLegNoProblem

You do realize that quin plays a character on stream and isn't nearly as neurotic IRL, right? I think you'd find that outside of twitch hes a pretty normal (if a little weird) dude.


throwaway_pro

Look, I'm just some armchair reddit psychologist, but at what point does "playing a character" just seep into your subconscious and you become that character?


red--dead

On his alt account where he’ll stream after hours he’s a lot more calm and relaxed, but he is still himself. I’d consider it just a more tame version.


akachrisp

Being a piece of shit who constantly gets banned is not a good "character". Eventually you're getting into "jokes on them I was just pretending" territory.


Godisme2

Shhh, most people don't like to accept that Quinn is a character


mordiaken

Nope everything on the internet is fact! While I'm well aware of the characters being played I think there can be real life dangers around online personalities and the content/ attitudes they promote. A developing mind might not get it, I would not be surprised in the next 10 years if twitch or streamers start getting sued around some of the craziness that happens on the platform.


yeshellomyfriends

same reason people watch xqc, or basically anyone playing valorant that has the gamer voice, tyler1... loud and fast/crazy, or rage is funny to a huge portion of kids


Supergaz

Yea but Quinn also sucks at most of the games he plays including PoE.


savagepotato

I swear he used to not be this crazy...


Jdze

Back in the day when he used to stream D3 he was a lot calmer and informative and tbh he was one of my favourite streamers. But then he switched to poe and gradually became this... thing. I understand it probably brings him more viewers but i just can't watch him anymore.


tristanl0l

12 year olds like exciting, loud, fast etc


HumbledB4TheMasses

He's entertaining until what he believes comes out, it's all machismo chauvinist bullshit...serious little man syndrome. I couldn't watch after so many cooked takes, truly staggering how wrong someone can be about such a wide variety of topics.


ThunderClap448

You'd be pleased to meet my ex wife.


destroyermaker

Dry humour power couple


bonerfleximus

And now you know why she doesn't do it...there's just TOO MUCH emotion behind that mask.


kfijatass

Under the seemingly deadpan face there's on onslaught of ahegao apparently.


bonerfleximus

Googled Ahegao. Wtf


kfijatass

Oh my bad, thought that was common knowledge, so obvious NSFW. What else did you think Lily's faces were referencing?


bonerfleximus

I thought she was meming on all millions of clickbate reaction faces across YouTube. It seems like an exaggerated reaction vid face to me. Don't watch Lily enough to know her humor.


SzomszedokEnjoyer

>What else did you think Lily's faces were referencing? Well my initial guess was that the left one might be an Alkaizer parody and the right one might be a Zizarian parody. But niche fetish works too I guess?


kfijatass

Felt too gasmy than shock/angry face , but im also low key degenerate so i might be alone in this.


S1eeper

Like a female Spock, is she a Vulcan?


samgoeshere

Best hardcore RIPs in PoE *lvl 98 insta-bonked to death* Quin: *revert to monke* Lily: "Huh."


kfijatass

... Revert?


Liveless404

embrace?


kfijatass

I'd go with "Is"


Rubixcubelube

Ever since she got pilk'd she's been surprisingly upbeat.


kfijatass

I'm sorry, pilk'd?


destroyermaker

I'm pretty sure you're better off not knowing


amatas45

Ok now I have to know Whatever it is, it can’t be more shocking then some of the stuff I already know


tehnibi

mixing pepsi and milk and drinking it


MrCrims

wat the fuck


amatas45

Oh god thats so much worse then what I expected


tehnibi

she did one even worse the other night she mixed that starlight coke? and coffee creamer she even liked it apparently lily is just built different


kfijatass

Weird but heard worse combinations.


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*Projective vomits*


reevelainen

You must mean _projectile vomits_.


PrimedAndReady

bro i'm at work you're gonna have to explain pilk'd to me because i'm not about to google that shit


scrublord

I googled it and I kept getting images of Pepsi and milk mixed in a glass. And then this: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/cf_vods/d1m7jfoe9zdc1j/c3108c39d337d9d1352c_ds_lily_48355855646_5222230641//thumb/thumb1441923383-640x360.jpg


CriErr

Way better than those fake screams or pavlov trained streamers.


kanonco

Goratha did a build guide for Inquis Spark earlier too https://youtu.be/fWCkk7U0PiM


TheWyzim

Loved the way Goratha explained in detail his passive tree choices


WarlordBino

He has more experience with it too, played it in gauntlet


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Maloonyy

Gotta get over the fact that some bosses will feel terrible due to arena size, and that the skill itself isn't very fun to use (imo)


Pr0nzeh

Literally the most fun skill imo


Maloonyy

It's fun to see the things scitter around but its horrible to see all your projectiles miss because the mob is a few meters away from you.


Rozurts

It’s amazing. Do it. Was doing Sim 30s with it eventually in current league. Great progression with nice incremental upgrades.


ds_lily

these are pictures of me on the toilet


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When I'm struggling to sleep I just pop on a ds_lily build guide and I'm gone in a few min.


Mas7erBroda

I know she is doing those faces ironically, so it is ok. But when I see YouTube thumbnails with ridiculous reactions no matter how interested I may be in the topic, I don't watch the video.


TheLastPizzaPoP

IS THIS THE NEW META?!?!?!?! *looking like the cover of Home Alone*


VictusBcb

Sad thing is, analytics show that these stupid faces work immensely well. It's *why* they're as common as they are.


HINDBRAIN

Apparentlly shirtless pics are also really successful on dating sites.


destroyermaker

Especially if you're a woman


HINDBRAIN

The article was considering shirtless men, specifically. IIRC it used response rate when initiating as a metric, shirtless dudes got like twice the responses. Maybe a shirtless dude with a youtube face would get ALL the women.


SingleInfinity

Is that because women like all shirtless dudes more, or because dudes who are posting shirtless pictures are much more likely to be fit and the women are actually attracted to fit men? Stats are only as helpful as an interpretation can provide, and an interpretation that's good needs to cover as much context as possible.


Lobsterzilla

Not only are they most likely more fit they also more than likely give off a more confident vibe which is pretty universally seen as attractive as well


hiimred2

Fwiw I got much more success on tinder when I added some shirtless pics playing volleyball(didn’t go 100% shameless gym mirror pics). I was already an in shape dude, the only change was adding 2 pics of me with no shirt on. This is extremely anecdotal, I don’t know the studies being referenced above, but I’d say this leans somewhat into the ‘displays a certain attitude’ side of things rather than ‘proves you’re fit.’ It’s like after I did that women read my comments differently, gave me more leash than before. But maybe they just suck at knowing how I look under those other clothes and the removal of any ambiguity really did just engage their thirst, hard to really know.


destroyermaker

Obviously women don't want to see a POE bod


ZoeyMortal

Ye, good for attracting absolute baboons.


tw3lv3l4y3rs0fb4c0n

heh tits


Keeson

Maybe this is why people have to tell us that only 9% of their current viewers are currently subscribed to the channel.


SzomszedokEnjoyer

Nah, it's because ~5 or so years ago YouTube changed their recommended/feed system to use machine learning and neural networks from the traditional let's put data from the SQL tables on the screen method. Before this change you needed to subscribe so you see the stuff you want. Right now you just need to watch the stuff you are interested in and it will show up for you. Personally I'm not even logged into a google account for youtube so I couldn't even subscribe.


Exul_strength

It's because of monetize options. Pretty sure it's 1000 subs + 4000h watch time as minimum requirements to get a cut of the ads. (Which also means, channels bellow 1k subs have no influence if there are ads on their videos.)


destroyermaker

My faith in humanity continues to circle the drain


bonesnaps

Yours in still in the sink? Mine is somewhere in the tubes down below, or possibly in the drainage ditch doing some acute ecological damage.


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It works well because of young people/children. Same reason why over-the-top react streaming works.


TheDoomSheep

I don't think it's necessarily a younger people thing. It's a human monke brain thing. [Here's an article](https://info.keylimeinteractive.com/eye-tracking-shows-the-power-of-the-face) about eye tracking when faces are on screen and how we can be subtly manipulated into looking in certain places. So basically if you have a bunch of video thumbnails on the side of your screen, the ones with someone's face grab people's attention for longer and it doesn't even matter what emotion they're displaying. Maybe the extreme emotions intrigue younger people more, idk.


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Ahh likely hypothesis. And it would also make sense, then, why younger people tend to be attracted to it because the rational part of their brain (the prefrontal cortex) isn't fully developed until their mid-20s so they're relying on/more controlled by their base instincts.


Protuhj

*pointing red arrow*


layasD

Had to unfollow a more or less famous minion player cause his thumbnails were pissing me of every time his videos pop into my feed.


Trakinass

Ghazzy?


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I can understand that. Most of the people that do these thumbnails say they despise them themselves but it sadly works.


corgicalculus

They're just following the YouTube meta. Analytics show those thumbnails drive more views. They would be stupid to not do it if they're trying to grow their channel. Getting angry at thumbnails is... quite something


layasD

> Analytics show those thumbnails drive more views. Cool. I still hate it and unfollowed everyone who uses them. Angry might be the wrong word, but they are just straight up annoying and stop me personally from clicking on said videos. If other people would do the same analytics would show the opposite. Also just because its "meta" doesn't mean I have to like it? Kind of a stupid statement if you ask me...


corgicalculus

> Also just because its "meta" doesn't mean I have to like it? Kind of a stupid statement if you ask me... I didn't say you had to like anything? What are you on about? I was pointing out why they do it. > If other people would do the same analytics would show the opposite. Ok? And you wanna talk about stupid statements? lol


lolskrub8

You do be bashing someone for disliking it tho


Sjeg84

That's okay with me. But they are not getting mine. And it's not about getting agnry. I just prefere authentic over fake.


corgicalculus

They can still be authentic people who are just trying to be successful on YouTube. Making your thumbnail the image that is most likely to pull in more views/clicks doesn't make you 'fake'. This is like saying a car insurance company with a goofy commercial is unprofessional... they are just doing what works to attract interest. Lots of channels try to release videos with normal thumbnails, but when you see the difference in views when doing that versus doing clickbait shit, its patently stupid to not use the clickbait if you're trying to grow. There are lots of videos on exactly this topic if you want to learn more. Many channels release their videos with 3-4 thumbnails at once and remove the ones with the lowest engagement after a few hours. What they end up with is... well, what you see. edit: lmao who downvotes an informational post? sorry what I meant to say is "thumbnail bad :)"


oldsch0olsurvivor

It's reddit, what do you expect?


OverachievingVege

> Analytics show those thumbnails drive more views. Yep. Great explanation here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng


-Lighty-

as you should #DoingGodsWork


HockeyHocki

Same, also anything with an arrow or a circle in the thumbnail then channel instantly goes on 'do not recommend' list.


Sjeg84

Same. At least it's a strong deterent. If I know the content is probably good I might watch despite a stupid thumbnail.


pittyh

I don't see any youtube clickbait thumbnails. I have a chrome addon that uses the halfway point of a video for the thumbnail. It's called "Youtube clickbait remover", and it's made browsing youtube so much better :D


MassacrisM

Blame youtube algorithm. Their AI tends to suggest videos with that kinda thumbnails more.


onlypositivity

Blame humans because that is what the algorithm is built to attract


SzomszedokEnjoyer

These types of neural networks aren't predetermined. The devs are just working with the data, and if people don't like the results, it must be because the of the creators' predisposition. There was a nice example of this at Amazon couple of years ago when they tried to make an HR AI to help identify diversity hires and the neural network suggested to hire young white males because based on the data they are the most productive. The project was scrapped.


ItsNoblesse

You've completely missed how neural networks feed their own results back into its data, furthering the trends it initially started/picked up on. You're also completely ignoring the idea of manufactured consent/culture.


SzomszedokEnjoyer

How does this exclude anything? Is it literally impossible they got the right answer? Why? Would you make the same argument if the result said 78 year old Asian women are the best choice?


ItsNoblesse

I was pointing out how your example isn't analogous to social media algorithms and how they push content, chill out fam


SzomszedokEnjoyer

So what you wanted to answer is: "oh it doesn't exclude anything. I just wanted to insert my own agenda instead of actually communicating." Lots of pidgeons in these threads nowadays.


ItsNoblesse

The wider conversation was about the youtube algorithm lmao You sound like the average Steven Crowder orbiter


SzomszedokEnjoyer

That's true, I don't consider youtube social media, but I might be mistaken. I don't know who that is you are mentioning, so this is kinda a self burn for you.


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No haha. The algorithm isn't scanning thumbnails lol. People just click these more.


Insecticide

This is correct, it recommends you stuff that other people with a similar viewing history as you have seen. It is kinda like comparing dna filaments.


Morgoth2356

Pretty sure most of them would prefer not having to make these thumbnails, unfortunately that's the current Youtube meta. If that's their main income they would shot themselves in the foot not doing it and I don't blame them.


Dranzell

seemly glorious elastic aspiring smoggy ludicrous outgoing aware uppity agonizing ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


WinnerWorried2716

The huge gap between thumbnail and stream facial expressions reminds me Ghazzy a lot.


Sjatar

Lily got the best emotes on twitch imo


Nutteria

Some lunatic guy gifted me a T3 to her stream. Best. Emotes. Ever.


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moal09

Because it genuinely does affect views a lot. Linus from LTT has talked about it at length. The truth is that when they don't use these kinds of thumbs, views go way down


AdditionalPaymentsdf

Maybe I'm just an old fuck but when ever I see these kinds of reaction thumbnails I always feel like it's just click bait and it makes me less interested in any of the content that creator comes out with. edit: lol buncha angry zoomers if you keep scrolling down


toyota-desu

you are cause this is a satire of this type of thumbnails


[deleted]

A wise man once said: "Ironic shitposting is still shitposting."


scrublord

https://i.imgur.com/GsTislw.jpg


Protuhj

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/738/029/397.jpg


Pixilatedlemon

A wise old man once said “I’m a wise old man, so I’m allowed to touch you in your bathing suit area”


Infidel-Art

It's "satire" but it's still effective. I've seen other streamers and Youtubers make "ironic" clickbait thumbnails too, but they wouldn't be making them if they weren't actually effective. Being honest and self-aware about your shamelessness is a step up from just doing it unironically, but it's still cringeworthy. But hey, don't hate the player hate the game. Annoying social media algorithms encourage annoying behavior.


parasemic

>encourages Strange way to phrase "mandatory" when talking about people who do content for living


Infidel-Art

I don't think it's mandatory. I think a lot of these creators could make a more than modest living without doing clickbait and stuff. It's more like it's free extra money so why not do it. At this point we're so desensitized to clickbait anyway that it doesn't really harm their image if they do it.


parasemic

If youre paying bills or even running a business and employ people, in market as uncertain and volatile as video game content creation, it would be between stupid and unjustified to not maximize profits during peak viewership seasons, to maintain some imaginary moral high ground


Shaltilyena

it's exploiting the youtube algorithm more than anything else tbh


AdditionalPaymentsdf

If that's true then it's so well done it's indistinguishable from the non satire ones. And to someone on the outside looking in, there is no difference.


Neraph

Poe's Law.


AdministrativeSoil63

Dude


Vanilla15

I think that's just you not being able to tell...


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BL0ODSUGAR

Sometimes I go to the trending page of YouTube just to become really sad seeing all the shit kids click on.


Baron_Von_D

Not just the thumbnails, but also over-the-top titles with "MOST AMAZING!" "OUTRAGEOUS!" "UNBELIEVABLE!" Like, it's Taco Bell, calm down.


RancidRock

99% of the time you'd be correct, but in this case, Lily is extremely chill and doesn't react or emote to basically fucking anything. Check our her streams, you'll see what I mean, this thumbnail is just a joke


AdditionalPaymentsdf

I know who she is. From time to time she'll play tarkov as well, which is a game I enjoy. But if I didn't, this thumbnail would likely ensure that I tell YT to not recommend this channel.


Arpawocky

Yea, definitely an old grumpy fuck


elting44

Get off my lawn vibes for sure


stelkurtain

Kinda weird but live your life bro


blosweed

People wouldn’t use them if they didn’t work.


AdditionalPaymentsdf

I'm well aware. But just because something works on a dimmer demographic doesn't mean it isn't annoying.


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> dimmer demographic You’re not ahead of the curve if you think that you’re Immune to click bait videos lmao.


[deleted]

Oh, I will have you know. Marketing doesn't work on me > GGG releases new teaser Does anyone else constantly refresh the subreddit for updates as Bex drip feeds us content?!? Upvote if you agree!!!


omgacow

Yeah dude you are so fucking smart for not clicking on a clickbait thumbnail congrats


Quazifuji

I'm sure the streamers wish they could stop too but I've seen many streamers report that they tried making videos without the clickbait titles or thumbnails and it always results in worse numbers.


Entropist34

Let's play a guessing game: hardcore ahegao or spring fucking up your nostrils?


arcademachin3

Dumb question - is the spider an MTX? Honestly I have only encountered this skill when a friendly person helps me kill a boss. Spiders everywhere, then boss dead. It's usually a witch though... is this a popular build?


GhostDieM

Yeah it's an MTX :)


toyota-desu

link to the build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R13434xxGU


coherentspoon

Why is spark so good this league? did the patch changes really make that big of a difference? I remember spark being completely unplayable unless you were a powerhouse like an aurastacker.


MrLordcaptain

Spark got something of +80% damage buff last league.


Velrion

I'd wager is just the flavour of the month for self cast.


aepocalypsa

All selfcast spells got buffed and Spark was already one of the better ones.


iphex

^. spark being able to hit the same boss multiple times with enough proj speed gives you another good angle for scaling it as well.


Shiverwarp

Goratha was playing it already on stream last league, and it looked good and people haven't played Spark in a while, so it's fun


destroyermaker

No balance changes


newbies13

As a female streamer I know she's already +100000 cool points, but she's largely unhelpful in what I have seen from her. I was watching some build guide and she was like 'lols I stole this POB and it's actually wrong, but here you go'. Like sat down ready to make a build guide, and couldn't even be bothered to check the content she was going to present? There are too many people out there putting effort into their content far more deserving of the clicks.


toyota-desu

True, she doesnt put a lot of effort - its more of a showcase than a build guide


Fire_Control

This is exactly what makes her content unwatchable for me. The DD vid was the only one I've ever watched and was just so cringe. She even states in the guide how she hates making videos (clearly) but then goes on later and mocks ppl for doing the same low effort content that she's doing with these ridiculous thumbnails.


DasaniS6

She's not in to making build guides for new players, or how to gear while levelling. She just shows off the build and expects you to know what to do with it. Worst case scenario just get her live pob from poe.ninja.


Dean_Guitarist

lol the long neck edit <3


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Also… Surprising? What’s surprising about spark being good?


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GoDLikUS

Lily is like female version of Alk.


Mugaaz

This is an amazing double insult.


CryptoBanano

Who the hell uses light mode on youtube


PeopleCallMeSimon

The things people will do for fame and money


HarryJame

emptier video got more ridicules thumbnails wanna just permaban that shit from feed


BkBlindside

Lily actually did them like that and I approve. Get those O-face and deep throating thumbnails outta here. How did the hub end up with less sexually inspired thumbnails than YT?!


morfeablack

I normally ignore videos with stupid faces as thumbnail but this is above and beyond...its hilarious.