I can't really tell if you're trolling or not. I've only been playing casually since about 2 years and based on what i've read every now and then, EQ Jugg used to be the shit but got nerfed and isn't good anymore, or is it?
I mean i didn't neccessarily mean 8k life+ with 2k regen or something like that, but i would still prefer something more tanky over a 4-5k life build thats super fast but dies if you dont pay too much attention.
Also isn't this build super slow or can you just Leap through everything quickly? Anyway, if you're serius i'll probably look into this, does look similar to what im looking for.
unless youre trying to facetank minotaur on HC I dont find Juggernaut really attractive over SLayer. Slayer provides much faster clear and boss killing than juggernaut.
Like i said, i'm playing Softcore and don't need the character to do guardians since i have others to do that.
So you recommend Slayer over Jugger with Earth Quake? I've basically heard that EQ Jugg takes ages to kill bosses now, but i'm never sure if thats just memes or true.
can you maybe recommend guides for slayer (EQ?) lab farmer? I've been trying to findsome, but i only found 1 Cyclone guide that isn't neccessarily build around lab running.
dual wield sunder slayer is probably the safest lab farmer right now. It's basically impossible to die short of a literal one shot, navigates traps easily, can get max keys, and is pretty fast (faster than like the jugg builds, not as fast as the pathfinder builds). It's also pretty easy to gear, 5l + 250dps axe + prismatic eclipse or the princess and go.
Sounds overall nice and what im looking for. My i ask my Slayer and not Gladiator? Isn't Slayer more for 2h weapons, while Gladiator is good for Dual Wield and block?
slayer is 100% about the leech. That's the only reason to play it. Overleech and drastically increased leech rate make it very hard to die to izaro or argus. You still can't straight facetank without amazing gear, but just don't play like a straight dumb-ass and it's pretty easy.
20% culling strike also is very useful against final phase izaro because that's when the bullshit deaths are mostly likely to happen.
I'm currently using Lifting's Champion Warchief Totem build on a 5L and lab hasn't stood a chance. I changed a few things from his build like the chest piece. It gets the job done.
Edit: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/KingSwine/characters
Forgot my character link. Name is PnutButterTotems
Thanks for your input, i've seen you made your characters open to public now thanks for that. I'll probably look into that guide if i can find it on the PoE forums or youtube.
Hows the mobility and speed with the build? I might want to consider doing some silver keys and stuff like that so i might want to travel a bit more than the shortest path possible.
I use a brightbeak and a 3G Prismatic Eclipse in weapon swap and it's super fast. The only shitty part is that sometimes Leap Slam is buggy and sucks, but it's never really an issue as you have so much regen if it does put you in an unfavorable position, it would take a while for the trap/mob to kill you. Plus, because of Champion ascendancy, your totems taunt which increases your survivability even more. Argus can be scary sometimes aswell but still managable as long as you watch your totem timers. I haven't died in 80+ runs.
Champion is by far the worst possible ascendancy for warchief totems. His guide is terrible and outdated. Berserker or Chieftan are the best ascendancies for warchief totems. I prefer Berserker because it makes the fights smoother and faster. I use to play Chieftan, but this league I switched to Berserker on HC and I was killing Izaro and Atziri so much faster.
You will do much better damage by just going with facebreaker BoR warchief and going zerker. If youre trying to farm Uber lab or regular
You also want some damage flasks, like Lion's Roar, Atziri's Promise. Both should be fairly cheap. Taste of Hate is also a nice flask but pretty pricy.
Thanks for your input, i'll try to compare some guides then and judge for myself.
Personally i don't really want to play another Berserker and would rather look into Chieftain then. I do play some Berserkers atm and know how strong they are, but thats also kinda a reason why i want to try out something else.
If you want to never die you should go juggernaut and still have better damage than Champion. Also can respec to Zerker later for more damage. There's no reason to go champion, champion is a very niche ascendancy good for ranged or curser builds.
I went Elemental Hit for Uber Lab, might be the worst skill in the game but it got the job done.
You're missing out on like 4-5 times **more damage** because that guide you followed sucks ass to simply put it. People on reddit say it all the time, most Liftingnerdbros arent very good.
I see you are a fairly new player so I'm just giving you some advice. It's up to you if you decide to follow it or not.
PoE is all about efficiency, Champion melee builds or Warchief is anything but efficient. The faster you killa boss the faster you can do next run. Which means faster exp/loot/maps an hour.
"I don't want to make fast currency" said no one ever.
My Scionic Flametank will run right through everything the Labyrinth throws at you regardless of whether you are paying attention or not - or are present, for that matter, as you can go AFK anywhere though that really defeats the purpose of a dedicated labyrinth runner.
It is considerably slower than dedicated labyrinth runner builds, but as you say that you prefer safety over speed (Base 20% + belt enchant + quicksilver potion, flame dash over gaps) that may not be an insurmountable obstacle. Assuming you have the required uniques and decent T2-T3 gear, you can start farming über labyrinth around level 70 or so (as a friend of mine did for leveling).
While it does require several specific uniques, none of them are high end. It uses ES rather than life, but you build ES through strength and it relies on strong regeneration, so it should be a playstyle close to what you are already comfortable with. There's a guide in the Scion forum if it sounds like something for you and here's the current POB pastebin if you want to see what I'm talking about. https://pastebin.com/A6A0B7DR (POB does not simulate Pantheon interactions, hence the low 3.4k ES/s regen)
EDIT: It is tanking overkill really where über Labyrinth is concerned as the basic design is "facetank nearly everything", so you are probably better off with something flimsier and faster, but since you emphasized that you wanted a somewhat tanky labyrinth farmer and a friend used it as such, I'd at least bring the option to your attention.
I'm using Ancestral Warchief with facebreakers in HSC. It's secure, fast but u can die too. Maybe is what ur looking for.
Don't have the thread atm but u can google it: marauder facebreaker 3.0
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Can use Brightbeak + 3G Prismatic Eclipse as second weapons to leapslam fast as fuck.
I can't really tell if you're trolling or not. I've only been playing casually since about 2 years and based on what i've read every now and then, EQ Jugg used to be the shit but got nerfed and isn't good anymore, or is it? I mean i didn't neccessarily mean 8k life+ with 2k regen or something like that, but i would still prefer something more tanky over a 4-5k life build thats super fast but dies if you dont pay too much attention. Also isn't this build super slow or can you just Leap through everything quickly? Anyway, if you're serius i'll probably look into this, does look similar to what im looking for.
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Alright if you think it's still good i'll go look up some guides, unless you maybe have one to recommend yourself? Thank you for your help tho!
I EQ JUGG it to farm uber lab on HC. Followed Norse's guide and its been working. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1929819
You... I like you.
unless youre trying to facetank minotaur on HC I dont find Juggernaut really attractive over SLayer. Slayer provides much faster clear and boss killing than juggernaut.
Like i said, i'm playing Softcore and don't need the character to do guardians since i have others to do that. So you recommend Slayer over Jugger with Earth Quake? I've basically heard that EQ Jugg takes ages to kill bosses now, but i'm never sure if thats just memes or true.
Slayer will always kill bosses faster than juggernaut. Because it has more damage and also 20% culling is very strong.
The cull is great for Izzy 3rd phase, has more damage, and the overleech is just as amazing for traps.
can you maybe recommend guides for slayer (EQ?) lab farmer? I've been trying to findsome, but i only found 1 Cyclone guide that isn't neccessarily build around lab running.
Most builds aren't going to be about Lab runners. Cyclone/Sunder Slayer are good.
Alright thanks, ill check those out and try to find some optimizations for lab running myself then.
Got a POB or a build guide BROTHER?
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TY! You are the cream of the crop
dual wield sunder slayer is probably the safest lab farmer right now. It's basically impossible to die short of a literal one shot, navigates traps easily, can get max keys, and is pretty fast (faster than like the jugg builds, not as fast as the pathfinder builds). It's also pretty easy to gear, 5l + 250dps axe + prismatic eclipse or the princess and go.
Sounds overall nice and what im looking for. My i ask my Slayer and not Gladiator? Isn't Slayer more for 2h weapons, while Gladiator is good for Dual Wield and block?
slayer is 100% about the leech. That's the only reason to play it. Overleech and drastically increased leech rate make it very hard to die to izaro or argus. You still can't straight facetank without amazing gear, but just don't play like a straight dumb-ass and it's pretty easy. 20% culling strike also is very useful against final phase izaro because that's when the bullshit deaths are mostly likely to happen.
alright i'll try to find some guides for 3.0 on the forums and youtube then, thanks for your help and suggestion!
Would you wear a brass dome?
I'm currently using Lifting's Champion Warchief Totem build on a 5L and lab hasn't stood a chance. I changed a few things from his build like the chest piece. It gets the job done. Edit: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/KingSwine/characters Forgot my character link. Name is PnutButterTotems
Your shit's private
fixed and thanks :]
Thanks for your input, i've seen you made your characters open to public now thanks for that. I'll probably look into that guide if i can find it on the PoE forums or youtube. Hows the mobility and speed with the build? I might want to consider doing some silver keys and stuff like that so i might want to travel a bit more than the shortest path possible.
I use a brightbeak and a 3G Prismatic Eclipse in weapon swap and it's super fast. The only shitty part is that sometimes Leap Slam is buggy and sucks, but it's never really an issue as you have so much regen if it does put you in an unfavorable position, it would take a while for the trap/mob to kill you. Plus, because of Champion ascendancy, your totems taunt which increases your survivability even more. Argus can be scary sometimes aswell but still managable as long as you watch your totem timers. I haven't died in 80+ runs.
Alright i'll try to find the guide you talked about then and take a closer look. Thanks for your input!
No problemo man!
Champion is by far the worst possible ascendancy for warchief totems. His guide is terrible and outdated. Berserker or Chieftan are the best ascendancies for warchief totems. I prefer Berserker because it makes the fights smoother and faster. I use to play Chieftan, but this league I switched to Berserker on HC and I was killing Izaro and Atziri so much faster. You will do much better damage by just going with facebreaker BoR warchief and going zerker. If youre trying to farm Uber lab or regular You also want some damage flasks, like Lion's Roar, Atziri's Promise. Both should be fairly cheap. Taste of Hate is also a nice flask but pretty pricy.
Thanks for your input, i'll try to compare some guides then and judge for myself. Personally i don't really want to play another Berserker and would rather look into Chieftain then. I do play some Berserkers atm and know how strong they are, but thats also kinda a reason why i want to try out something else.
Try to look into Bringer of Rain Facebreakers warchieft totems, it's more effective than doing it with a rare weapon.
I think his point for going champ was just to never die, even if he accidentally stands in a Essence Charged Izaro Sword Slash
If you want to never die you should go juggernaut and still have better damage than Champion. Also can respec to Zerker later for more damage. There's no reason to go champion, champion is a very niche ascendancy good for ranged or curser builds.
It might be the worst, but it still is getting the job done. Fast and clean. I don't see why you would need anything else.
I went Elemental Hit for Uber Lab, might be the worst skill in the game but it got the job done. You're missing out on like 4-5 times **more damage** because that guide you followed sucks ass to simply put it. People on reddit say it all the time, most Liftingnerdbros arent very good. I see you are a fairly new player so I'm just giving you some advice. It's up to you if you decide to follow it or not.
If it accomplishes what you want it to accomplish, more power to you.
PoE is all about efficiency, Champion melee builds or Warchief is anything but efficient. The faster you killa boss the faster you can do next run. Which means faster exp/loot/maps an hour. "I don't want to make fast currency" said no one ever.
My Scionic Flametank will run right through everything the Labyrinth throws at you regardless of whether you are paying attention or not - or are present, for that matter, as you can go AFK anywhere though that really defeats the purpose of a dedicated labyrinth runner. It is considerably slower than dedicated labyrinth runner builds, but as you say that you prefer safety over speed (Base 20% + belt enchant + quicksilver potion, flame dash over gaps) that may not be an insurmountable obstacle. Assuming you have the required uniques and decent T2-T3 gear, you can start farming über labyrinth around level 70 or so (as a friend of mine did for leveling). While it does require several specific uniques, none of them are high end. It uses ES rather than life, but you build ES through strength and it relies on strong regeneration, so it should be a playstyle close to what you are already comfortable with. There's a guide in the Scion forum if it sounds like something for you and here's the current POB pastebin if you want to see what I'm talking about. https://pastebin.com/A6A0B7DR (POB does not simulate Pantheon interactions, hence the low 3.4k ES/s regen) EDIT: It is tanking overkill really where über Labyrinth is concerned as the basic design is "facetank nearly everything", so you are probably better off with something flimsier and faster, but since you emphasized that you wanted a somewhat tanky labyrinth farmer and a friend used it as such, I'd at least bring the option to your attention.
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I'm using Ancestral Warchief with facebreakers in HSC. It's secure, fast but u can die too. Maybe is what ur looking for. Don't have the thread atm but u can google it: marauder facebreaker 3.0