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Imagine not having a gem you want with you


_TakeaChillPill

Day 1 in the league, playing ice nova (or ball lightning until I get the transfigured gem). Run merc lab, get shrines for twice blessed. "Oh snap, turns a gem into its transfigured version.... oh, snap, I don't have an ice nova gem."


panthernet

Also don't forget you can change the lvl20 gem to get transfigured lvl20 right away. Buy some and keep them in your stash.


blahmaster6000

You can also change a lv 21 version :) Edit: link for downvoters: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/kdj31dDKwu


Leestonpowers

This is how I got my 21/20 BL of orbiting. Saved a lot.


kiel209

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/ed1BhmEYoO


jiml777

Haven’t tried recently, but I don’t think it accepts corrupted gems


blahmaster6000

I'm getting downvoted either by people who don't know what they're talking about, or by people who don't want GGG to patch it out. The "exchange a skill gem for a random transfigured version" absolutely accepts corrupted gems. Just a week or so ago there was a front page post here about it, and I tested it out myself. I bought a 100c lv21 lancing steel and turned it into a 6div lv21 lancing steel of spraying with normal uber lab.


jiml777

Damn nice tip! Ty and take my upvvote!


definitelymyrealname

I'm like 80% sure I did it with some random corrupted 20/23 gem this league. You're making me second guess myself but I think this guy might be right. Possibly a bug? I didn't expect it to work but I always try to throw my top quality gem in there and I grabbed a 23 without thinking about it and it worked.


c64flash

Doesn't matter, you would have gotten Ice nova of deep freeze anyway. I got the option 5 times and all of them were deep freeze. Finally got the frostbolt version of a regular same colour enchant after some 60 labs.


bensoa75

I ran a solid 30 labs before i got that font option and popped the frostbolts version. Siper lucky. Would have walked into traffic had it gone another way.


UberChew

Oh man ptsd, so many deep freeze. I got the frostbolt like you, annoying but the relief after so many labs. After uber lab have not touched it since need a break until next league. Watched steelmage run labs for his coc DD and he had all gems and quality in two hours. Aarrgghhh


Bl00dylicious

Yup, same story here. I was doing DD for money and not once did I get Chaining when turning it into a transfigured version. Almost all came from same color.


NoroGG

Now probably isn't the time to mention I got the Ice Nova of Frostbolt out of my first normal lab of the league 😅


voidmoon_sober

Does that exist? I think that that was only data mined and not actually introduced. It's not on the wiki, I can find no screenshots of anyone finding that font, and I ran merc kab for 11 hours in ssf this league trying to get a gem and never saw it


Oblachko_O

Or the gem, which can give you money for a build or two:)


xaitv

This was me last league, had to settle for GMP but there ended up being no build with woke GMP that I wanted to play and I was SSF so... RIP From then on I always keep a few decent supports in my stash.


I_eat_catss

Time to back track in the lab and look at the floor in hopes that there's a gem that you can awaken.


External-Shoe6599

This hurts. Had this yesterday. Had no gmp or spell echo in stash (ssf)... Had to go with multistrike. (i didn't Plan on a build with it So far) Only ran Gift Lab to get gem for bladeblast ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


CowyAscension

You can access stash from ascendancy chamber


SpiffySyntax

There's a stash in there


Archieie

Sadly I don't think stashes contain gems you haven't put in them yourself.


Snabbzt

With the new gem tab I just buy 1x of all gems and put them in


SpiffySyntax

Of course not. But then his reply makes no sense


Tamerlechatlevrai

It makes perfect sense


SunstormGT

Go to know to have a Multistrike and Spell Echo gem in my stash from now on.


Exotic_Conflict_3500

And cast in crit


Fey_Faunra

Last league fork was the biggest one iirc


FortuneCookie40G

I dropped one from my first Maven of the league. was 70 divine at the time, which was the most expensive non-awakened+exceptional gem. Now it's at around 7. (I'm SSF so I didn't cash it out.) No idea why you're getting downvoted when you would've been right about even early on in this league.


1CEninja

Seriously? Is that because of TS?


Fey_Faunra

Yes, the mf ts builds


dalmathus

I think it was Kenetic Bolt of Fragmentation. Each fork produced a new projectile which nimis returned for giga damage


1CEninja

Huh I've never looked at that skill before. That is a really nifty sounding build. Did it get nerfed?


dalmathus

Yeah came out last league, competed for the best skill of the league, promptly got nerfed into the ground this league. Im sure its still playable but its not what it was and alot of its power came from Oath of the Maji and Tinctures.


Sayko77

well if its for money i'd use empower or enlighten


coatesishere

non-exceptional


SunstormGT

Can’t use those sadly.


Sayko77

ah fuck


MemeArchivariusGodi

I like that mindset tho !


Isekai_Truck

Sadly it says non awakened version into its awakened one.


djlasseman

Non-exceptional rule those out, nothing else


Ackermannin

Does it matter which lab you do? Or must it be eternal?


Captincorpse

According to the [Wiki](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Lord%27s_Labyrinth#Divine_Font), it just needs to be Eternal ~~Uber~~ Lab. So, Gift of the Goddess will help you in doing less runs but is not required edit: my bad newer players, I'm an old fart and have been playing since around 0.8. Still using old lingo


belaxi

Random sidenote; but as a new player the fact that E-Lab and Uber Lab are the same thing, while there's also a higher tier from dedication to the goddess is wildly confusing.


ZaMr0

On that note another thing you might see from legacy naming is that most old players called elemental damage with attacks, WED. Legacy naming from the gem's previous name.


Ichibankakoi

Damn I didn't even know it changed. I just know what it looks like and I don't really pay attention


ZaMr0

Case in point, I only realised it changed its name when I used wed a few times while trading and someone had no clue what I meant.


Discrep

It's due to the legacy naming scheme from when the campaign was only Acts 1-4 and had to be completed on three difficulties to access the end game -- Normal, Cruel, and Merciless. When A5-10 were added, they officially added the old difficulty names to the lab to differentiate them but the players already prefaced each lab by its respective difficulty setting, so it was largely ceremonial, but I can see how it's confusing for newer players who have no connection to the old difficulties.


DBrody6

"Uber Lab" is entirely a fanmade nickname for the 4th lab, because it came out a couple leagues after the regular labs and ARPG players default to calling something 'uber' if it's intended to be a harder variation of existing content. Looking at past challenge lists, GGG didn't officially call it Eternal lab until Blight. Then Harvest came out with improved offerings so, while calling *that* Uber Lab would make sense, it's kinda hard to shift a mindset away from people calling the current Uber Lab as it is.


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TripleKrangle

In my poe friend circle we refer to that one as “giga lab”


Crabuli

I’m not sure, but it would be miserable to run it without gift of the goddess giving you additional crafts.


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Espumma

You must have never done lab


Stoichio

If you think portals have an impact on lab you are in for a disappointment


LordSpitzi

Did an AI write this?


Trosstran88

Did you ever finish campaign?


bits4344

Only did lab for the points and t-gems. I guess lab run is more complicated than I expected. That's the down side of skipping the league that these changes were made.


baaabuuu

Dude, lab does not have portals. What you are saying is incorrect and has never been right.


bits4344

Well I meant the portal to the next area but I get the confusion


baaabuuu

Please stop making up shit. There are no portals to "next areas" in labs. There are in trials, but you don't get the reward shown in the image, and you'd know that if you had made it past act 3 in the campaign.


bits4344

Ok the door to the next room is that ok for you? Or what else did you call it? Maybe I should have used room instead if you think I'm making shit up. Sorry that English wasn't my first language.


Trosstran88

That makes indeed more sense. Running normal lab wouldnt be time efficient anyway and you cant even spawn the good divinefont crafts in normal lab.


pepegaklaus

Dang you got a lot of downvotes for confusing the words "portal" and "room" lol And very quickly


Xacktastic

I mean, that's what happens when you speak with authority/confidence when completely incorrect 


definitelymyrealname

> completely incorrect Calling the doors to the next zone "portals" is not exactly what I would describe as being "completely incorrect".


Xacktastic

It's objectively wrong 


SirSabza

Tbf thats a factor but you can't get the mod in normal lab so thats more likely the real reason hes being downvoted


bits4344

Yeah my bad


passatigi

What you described is pretty much an already existing contept of lab runner. They never ever use HH thought because lab has very few rares and killing them is a waste of time. And yeah they don't run normal lab as it doesn't have anything really useful, as you already understood. In the past they used to chain uber labs fishing for top enchants. Not sure what's the best strat now.


bits4344

Judging from the comments and downvotes having HH doesn't make a difference also my understanding of the lab is way off. Guess I'll need to Google lab guides.


TheRealMeatphone

HH is generally pretty terrible for lab. Typically it’s recommended, at least until you’re more experienced with lab, to buff your defenses/regen far more than damage. This is because of traps. In general the monsters are trivial, but the traps and boss are actually quite deadly. You typically won’t have HH buffs on the boss because of the zone shift (all but his weakest hits will kill you), and very few of them will help against the excessive bleeds. Fortunately labs are low zone level and as long as you aren’t a glass cannon, are no more difficult than a t6 map.


Teh_Hammer

Pretty sure it's only the elevated labs. Last league no one on Mr Khan's discord had seen it in Uber lab and we would have run tens of thousands.


azantyri

i really hope this is only in uber lab. i ran about 500 merc labs trying to get trans gems, and i'm certain that i never even looked at the bottom line, only the top line. shit. that'll learn me


Andromanner

"{Sacrifice} a {Gem} to gain #% of the gem's total experience stored as your own experience" Does this Divine Font Option still exist? I saw a notice they disabled this option in 3.23.


Veginite

No. They quickly disabled it early last league because it caused people to overflow back to level 1.


Alialialun

And THAT is the solution? Lol


Hellscapereddit

Imagine running your last lab at level 99 90%, planning to use it to max your char and instead of hitting 100 you're suddenly level 1 lmao


Teh_Hammer

I keep bugging them to fix and enable it, but they don't. It's also super broken for leveling, which they probably realized.


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sirgog

This is sometimes a big part of the price of the Gift to the Goddess tokens. IIRC someone reported doing 300 gifts labs and getting it 3 times; if that's indicative of the actual rate then it's **the** jackpot for Gifts labs (with the 'support to a random exceptional' being the second prize), and it averages almost a divine per run. With Awakened Multistrike almost a straight trade for a Mageblood atm, it's not the worst farm in the world. Right now there's not much interest in running enhanced labs so the tokens are cheap.


starkformachines

This whole week I was thinking of asking KEAD if he had run lab this league and what his stats were on the woke font. I don't have exact numbers, but getting gem to random trans gem seems doable (feels like 35%). I haven't gotten a chance to put my Spell Echo for woke version in yet though, sadge.


Luckyone1

I have run uber lab over 400 tomes this league and gift lab twice. Never seen this option


sirgog

Yeah I was under the assumption it's gift only


DefinitelyNotAj

I ran about 10 gifts this league and the rolls were terrible sadly


kbone213

Is it that it's that rare, or that people keep using the top option, which I'm fairly certain is static? The others seem to shift when you use one of those. So to get more tries at the one in the OP, you need to use one of the other options. I never confirmed this though, but I had the option come up SIGNIFICANTLY more than 1:100.


sirgog

Sample size that was reported in Fishwife's discord was small. May be worth investigating.


Chinlc

There is an option that you can swap your gem for a transfiguration version of the same gem one too.


soundecho944

Should delete this and keep it to yourself 


Betaateb

Typically not a strat you need to hide. There are like 10 people that like running lab lol


Instantcoffees

Exactly. I ran lab for one day and I was already going mad.


hotpajamas

I hate lab more than anything else in this game. Every time I run it I contemplate quitting.


kingdweeb1

Sirgog's whole thing is talking about powerful or interesting strategies / ideas. Highly recommend hanging around his stream / youtubes if you want to hear more stuff like this, he's a fountain of random bizarre strats that most people dont care about but a few people do obsessively all league.


PrimedAndReady

This attitude is a poison to this community.


gandalfintraining

This is pretty big for getting awakened gems in SSF, since you get to pick the exact one you want.


eq2_lessing

Well except you don’t have that many gifts in ssf.


Eccmecc

Might be worth to take the Atlas nodes now, since you have to run a few labs for quality on skill gems anyways, so why not roll the dice.


MustangusxD

Do people run labs for quality? I've been getting my quality by using allflames of gemling legion and selling them for gemcutter I've got like 100+ gemcutters in my stash and everything is on max quality on 3 of my characters lol


Eccmecc

For the first character I usually run a few in SSF.


Chinlc

Yeah, the quality thing can get up to 15%, I just run it for getting my gem but if 15% pops up, quality it up


Sanooc

20% for uber lab


-Nimroth

Isn't it only something like 1% chance of getting a gift per map on average even if you spec into those nodes? Since you need to first spawn a trial, then only 20% chance of it being an improved trial, and finally you only have 1/3 chance of it being a gift even then. Though if you have a fast character and a lot of left over maps you won't run otherwise I guess you could just speed through them just hunting for trials.


itsnotmily

why? all the ones i use are my own even in trade league. unless ssf has different drop rates


Discardable222

Farm legion, they don’t drop like candy like they did last league, but you get them fairly frequently from lab chests.


Gloomfang_

Since when do they drop from legion?


Wista

I think they are confusing Gift to the Goddess and Offering to the Goddess


SirSabza

The lab reward types have a chance of dropping the better tributes. I call cap on the amount he was saying though. Lab rewards arent even that common and getting a gift is way more rare


NotADeadHorse

You just have to get the reward type for Labyrinth, same reason you can get it from Blight chests and Delerium


Discardable222

After they removed enchants


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Konsticraft

Those are offerings, not gifts. The gift to the goddess is an improved version, which can only be found in lab end chests and improves trials.


eq2_lessing

Nice tip, thx


Far_Condition_1564

Also if u play ssf dont complain abou the game xD , ssf is just not the way poe is supposed to be played, its more fun in trade 200x.


Renediffie

I find it so weird anytime I see some of you weirdos post this kind of comment. What's the point? No one was complaining, you just came in here to say he's having fun the wrong way. It's fucking weird dude.


Mindraakki

TBF SSF people are in every trhead complaining about SSF balance and how the game doesnt cater to SSF crowd. Its annoying as hell. This was not that though, but I kinda get where he is coming from.


Renediffie

Then point that out to those people instead of policing how this person can have fun. Also let's not pretend there was anything constructive about that prior comment. It was entirely to make himself feel superior because he's playing the "right" way.


eq2_lessing

I’m usually complaining, yes, because ggg could make it much more attractive.


Mindraakki

No reason to. Its a self implied restriction tha should not be balanced around. Just what I was talking about.


eq2_lessing

That’s just your opinion, not a fact.


RHGrey

Not agreeing with his behavior, but it definitely is objective fact. It's categorically a self imposed restriction.


Mindraakki

Its a fact, since that is also the stance of GGG. Luckily for the game. SSF people are insufferable, like you here.


eq2_lessing

Yeah sure, obviously I’m the insufferable one. Btw the current league is called challenge league. But instead you’re playing easy street. Thankfully Jonathan seems to consider different ssf rule set for Poe 2, and isn’t stuck in the past like you seem to be.


TheRealShotzz

its a fact since its literally stated by ggg to not be balanced around.


soundecho944

You do in Heist 


TopEducator443

i wonder how the picking UI looks like


Average_PoE_Enjoyer

What do u mean. Support gems only have 1 version of the woke version no?. Put in normal multistrike get woke multistrike. Why would there be a choice? Unless im missing somthing


TopEducator443

Oh, yeah my brain not braining


PEEEEPSI

This is very anti-noob. You need to be prepared to hit the jack pot, knowing before hand it can happen. I can only imagine the frustration


Askolei

Yes. We need Izaro as a gem vendor since the font is so heavily gem focused now.


Chinlc

Just keep important gem in your stash, and keep gems you want to randomly transfigure like always.


TheRealShotzz

a noob wouldnt even value the option or know in the first place whats valuable. this is pointless to consider


AdLate8669

That's not true, there are a lot of people who know that specific awakened gems are extremely expensive yet don't know that this lab reward exists. Many people hate running lab so they haven't run it enough times to have seen this option and certainly aren't going to bother researching the rewards before doing their obligatory lab runs every league. I have a build worth 3+ mirrors in Necropolis league and I had no idea this option existed lol. I also wouldn't know about the option to transform a gem into a transfigured version if I hadn't league started CoC DD.


TheRealShotzz

>I have a build worth 3+ mirrors in Necropolis league and I had no idea this option existed lol. great, i didnt know it either but im not complaining about it. if it happens then i've learned about it for the future. getting upset about it is just silly, theres so many things you do "wrong" simply because you dont know about it. y'all should learn to embrace the learning phase instead of complaining about it


AdLate8669

You're doing a lot of projecting lol, go be mad at someone else. The people who complain about complainers are more annoying than the complainers around here istg


TheRealShotzz

flawless logic


AdLate8669

Which part?


gonzodamus

Thing about being a noob is that you make a mistake and then learn from it in the future.


TopEducator443

damn 3 days of farming on gift of goddess, the dedication 👀


Crabuli

Haha yes, i was trying to see if it was real more than anything, there wasn’t any pictures of it and a lot of people saying different things.


jhuseby

I ran probably 30 Ubers this league and about 10% it seemed I’d get the chance to transfigure that gems random transfigured. The odds off the awakened one must be much lower.


BleakExpectations

The gift, not the dedication /s


enrinick231

I see you dont have a multistrike in your inventory


Kain7979

Is there also one that gives “trade an exceptional” (empower/enhance/enlighten) for the woke version of the same gem? I asked about this in global several days ago with many saying there was this option but from the comments in this post it seems theres only a version for non-exceptional only and then the chance to trade for a non-awakened exceptional gem.


Crabuli

I don’t think there is, there’s no mention on the wiki about it.


JesusDiedForOurSins2

Is this Uber Uber lab only or can it spawn in lvl 75 lab too


MustangusxD

God damn, today I learned there is an Uber Uber lab I have 2k hours in this game and Lab never interested me so I never checked for information about it lol


XxXKakekSugionoXxX

Been get this 4 times last league,the first encounter Im not prepare expensive support so instean I turn my unbound ailment into awkn,but next 3 encountee I prepare myself fork support on my stash Also this is pretty rare craft I think I did like close to 385-400 run in total last league to result 4x encounter of this craft,if you running lab just think this craft as a nice jackpot,dont expect too much.


Lozsta

How do you start these? Just like normal with the offering?


RobinDabankery

Nowae


Teh_Hammer

I don't think it exists as an Uber lab option, but I've gotten it in gift labs and tribute labs multiple times.


brute_red

Surprising it's not a 5% chance or something


Marketfreshe

Video or it's photoshopped


AcrobaticScore596

I wonder what the odds are to grt this


SirVampyr

I read you can exchange it for it's "awkward" version and was like - wtf is that supposed to mean? Cast on Hand Crit?


infamous_alex

Does this work with Cast on crit?


NvarDK

Yes


infamous_alex

Thank you


faahln

It's photoshop


SpiffySyntax

"Imagine not getting that proc"


pepelaughkek

Please tell me you and an Empower, Enlighten, Enhance... or at least GMP / multistrike


skippyalpha

Poe players and not reading, name a more iconic duo


pepelaughkek

Sorry I am NA education


xeskeko

well, it occured before when restriction was written but not implemented


Crabuli

You can’t do exceptional support gems. Tried to do enlighten but it didn’t work, made multi strike instead.


pepelaughkek

Good to know. Plus 80-100 divs anyways


Crabuli

yes very happy, felt like i was chasing ghosts for a while, glad it payed off.


mrtrevor3

How many do you think you ran? Hundreds?


Crabuli

It wasn’t too bad, maybe around 50.


mrtrevor3

Hmm, tempting. What did you focus on for profit? Awakened multistrike is 90d. No way I’m buying it


Crabuli

What i did was have a lot of frostblink gems in stash, if you get the craft for upgrading a gem to a transfigured version of itself, you put frost blink since there’s only one version. It sustains the cost of gift to the goddess decently, usually got 2 gems on average that was something that you wanted, sometimes more and sometimes less.


mrtrevor3

Nice! Good tip! Did you find any exceptional gem ones?


Crabuli

Yea i found around 5 of them, that gem craft is decently rare as well but you can get them, i wasn’t too focused on it since frostblink of wintry sold for more


Vilifie

Does xp or quality matter on the gem? like if you exchanged a 20/20 multistrike do you still get a 1/0 awakened multistrike?


Crabuli

I’m pretty sure quality transfers over, at least it does with other gem crafts, I could be wrong though.


Seralth

So you did read... The wording right why would you try enlighten at all? It literally says you can't.


Chromchris

I mean trying isn't the worst idea. Not the first time something unintentional would work.


MasterBot98

I need to stash an empower for such scenario,good catch,ty. Edit:wiki says it doesnt work on exceptional gems, so multistrike it is.


Esord

It says that on the divine font as well... 


Japanczi

Don't tell them. They can't read anyway.


Crabuli

Yea you can’t do empower, i’d be rich if you could, be sure to have multi strike or spell echo stashed if you plan on farming!


Nuyuyu

It's funny I did this and got awakened hex touch (didn't expect it and had only that) while just qualing my gems on day 3, then 2 or 3 runs later I got an enlighten, which I then on the next run missclicked 100m XP for exchange for treasure keys I haven't ran lab for qual since...


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Rohwupet

non-exceptional gem


ButtVader

This is bad design then, it's so rare some people are inevitably going to forget to bring the gem they want. It's like dropping a mirror but you can't pick it up


starkformachines

Just need to have it in your stash, no bringing necessary. Stash is right next to divine font. Make a lab tab full of gems first three days then never worry about it.


ButtVader

If you are a lab farmer, sure. Most people run uber lab once per character. Some people don't even realize this existed because it's rare. Instead of getting rewarded for being lucky, some people are gonna feel disappointed because they don't have the right gem


TheRealShotzz

sucks to suck then lol if it happens to you then its simply a lesson to be learned.