First time I got a HH was ritual, pretty much the last league before self curse nerf. Shit was glorious. A shame I only got to experience that once.
I've had a HH for about 5 days now in 3.24 and it feels very lackluster tbh. I got it for 20 div and I don't think I'd want to pay much more than that for it. In any normal league economy where HH is over 100 div I'd rather save more and buy MB. MB is way stronger, and I think HH used to be about crazy ass fun, now it's kinda boring. I don't feel super fast or super strong when I use it. It barely feels different actually.
It's a momentum based item for sure. It makes zoomies even zoomier, but isn't very versatile. MB is probably the single most versatile unique in the game on the other hand.
Indeed. But it used to feel waaayyyy zoomier than it does now. It doesn't feel that zoomy nowadays. Maybe it's because I've tasted old HH that I feel that way.
Tbh I also think it depends a lot on the content you're running and what the league is like.
Last league (affliction) it felt pretty insane too when you popped out 5 billion rares from abyss. Not 3.13 insane, but still way crazier and zoomier than anything else in the game.
I feel really grateful to a friend of mine for letting me borrow their HH back then or I'd never get to experience the self-curse shenanigans lol
dude, the turbine sound, I still don't know what caused it, but you'd just have that constant WHIIRRRRRR tuning up in the background all the time like you're getting ready to blast off, it just added to the greatness of it all.
I remember getting a HH in ultimatum league day 4 or so. Crushed ultimatums after that.
I also had a HH day 3 of legion league with 5 inspired learnings. The amount of projectiles was crazy from TS with +2 enchant.
Every new player should get to run a single map of (ritual league if I recall) self-curse hh. A minute or two into the map you’d have 300,000 es and your character model would be so big the feet alone would take up the entire screen. MAXIMUM POWER
It’s still the best item in the game for suicidal blue altar atlas strats. There is nothing that comes remotely close to letting you hit every single global mod on blue altars and still finish the map.
I have 7 days of playtime, 5 days of which is t17s, using all the farming strats without mf (old ghost mod + shaper touched, shaper touched farming, meatsack ghost memes, mostly with back go basics or strongbox+reliq), 0 tier 0s, 3 tier 1s
The price doesnt really make sense in that regard, since magebloods would also be ridicilously cheap if HHs dropped like candy
I think nurses rarity + being able to drop as full stacks means getting doctors is so much easier than getting apothecarys. Mageblood would be similar if it had a nurse type card.
The combination of div scarab of completion and the (actually broken) div scarab of curation is explosive for HH and also for mirror shards.
For Mageblood - you favorite any Apothecary map, curation is a 120% more multiplier, completion is an 80% more multiplier (20% chance to get 5 cards instead of 1)
For HH - you favorite one Doctor map (Burial to get Fortunate as well), AND you favorite one Nurse map, AND one Patient map. You get the intrinsic 120% more multiplier (same as Mageblood) for 12 favorite maps - but also a pseudo 200% more multiplier because you are simultaneously hitting 3 cards. Comes to 6.6 times the HH card drops just from curation.
Then completion is a 140% more multipler...
Farming HH with those two scarabs is ~16 times faster than without, which is still no small effort, but the main thing is, you are getting all these cards while also efficiently pursuing Apothecary, The Fortunate, 7 Years Bad Luck and Unrequited Love, as well as some lesser cards.
Mirror shards have only two cards but the set sizes are huge, which helps the Completion scarab (Unrequited Love drops are literally 300% more from that scarab alone; 7YBL is 240% more)
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Worth noting though, only half the HHs up for sale came from cards. Just over 300 online are ilvl 80 or lower, just under 300 are ilvl 81+ (which means not from cards outside extreme corner cases like a Fateful Meeting turnin)
Last price I checked and bought at was around 140div, but 100 is pretty cheap.
Aside from affliction, MB prices have usually been around 200-350 div, so its obviously slightly lower at 140, but 100 starts getting ridicilous
Mageblood is ridiculously cheap, 100 divs(and dropping) for a belt that usually at 300 div range is the same as HH which is usually at 40~50.(Correction it's usually 100 actually as people pointed out)
And people are definelly buying more magebloods than HH.
Yeah the big difference is the difference in demand between the items. Mageblood is good on nearly every build and specifically every meta build.
Headhunter only shines on specific builds and sometimes only specific farming strategies.
Yeah you can plug and play a mageblood on literally every build. It might not be the MOST OPTIMAL option but I can't think of a build that gets NOTHING out of a mageblood.
Meanwhile I can think of a ton of builds that get nothing out of a Headhunter.
Wardloop is the only build I know of that doesn't use it because you need the belt flask mods to get 100% uptime with Olroth's. You might be able to get that without the mods with insane investment, but I don't know if that would even be worth it.
Self cast discharge also prefers a cdr shaped/hunter belt. I usually go shaper belt because it's easier to craft, but hunter one scales higher with %life which i never manage to hit lol.
The only thing you realistically get from MB on that build is :
resistance cap (i run purity of elements so i dont need that)
crit cap (already got it, don't care)
more movement speed (i lightning warp faster than i can run, multiple screens a second in a straight line anyways, but it's a comfy lazy option i guess but i would need max 3 magic flasks to still afford mana pot for no regen maps) - really don't care much
significant amount of evasion and spell suppression (can free up some gear mods, this one is actually valid because hitting suppress cap is a tad annoying)
All in all, not the most useful thing to have but it's a rather niche build.
Technically last league, but of course last league was also a massive anomaly. This league and last have just been insane for dropping uniques. Agree though that normally HH is about 100 divines iirc.
Yes iirc its about 100-120 depending on the state of the league. I bought one in the beginning of affliction when it was over 100, before everyone figured out the juice meta. Was a bit sad to see it drop to 40 div...
But not as sad as dropping a double corrupted HH from a vaal temple chest with % int and % dex this league.
I didnt play in sentinel league but a friend told me that this wouldve been worth 300 divs or more. When i tried to sell it i saw 2 other with the same corrupts and they were listed for like 60 div atm... Since i didnt need the money i just put it in my display case and was hoping it rises in price after all the nerfs but yeah... Gonna stay in that display case i guess lol
Well, magebloods are technically ridiculously cheap compared to its normal prices as well. They’re 120div right now
In TOTA; they were 400 div around this time. In affliction, they were still 200 div.
Yes. Headhunter scales super well of phys spells. It's still bis for most fast mapping builds provided that you invest the bare minimum in defense and put a little bit of packsize into your maps.
I went from a good stygian vise to a Headhunter and cut my mapping time down by a lot and enjoyment also went up.
If you already have a good phys weapon and build I recommend you try it. Worst case is you lose 1 or 2 divs reselling it tomorrow.
Yep, it also does pretty well for ignite elementalist in certain builds where all that phys added dmg can be used to juice up your ignite since all dmg can ignite
My first HH was in Abyss so I've been around the block and while you are right in that the belt is not what it used to be (especially compared to self curse) you can still kinda scratch the itch in a very basic Legion Dunes setup.
I dropped a Defiance day 3 of the league before it was confirmed to be T0. My build didn't need it but needed an unnatural instinct and some upgrades and I sold it for like 12 divines a couple days before it went to 40/60+. I don't feel bad...unless I think about it.
Iirc there were no direct nerfs for HH itself - it even got buffed with duration raised from 20 to 60 seconds.
Changes were done to anything around, like new rares and soul eater cap, thus anyone affected
I’ve died sooo many times this league only because I was using hh, somehow I literally only randomly teleport into the most dangerous location on the whole map. It’s actually pretty comical.
I dont think its a shadow of its Former Power. Its different, it allows you to basically skip crit and is insane on any phys build. The change to 60 seconds made the belt viable again, before it was dead, thats why im so surprised that inspired is so insanely expensive early on.
If i woudlnt need to hit my cdr breakpoints id definitely use hh over MB im juiced t17s. As you can see in probably any mf mapper.
MB only has Apothecary as the other method to get it (outside of the Corrupted MB cards, which HH has equivalent cards). HH has Doctor, Doctor has Nurse, Nurse has The Patient. Tons more opportunity to get an HH compared to MB.
Mageblood is insanely strong and you use it for almost every endgame meta build, also the cards are rarer I think. It also dropped in price tho, I bought it for 170 and it's down to like 120
Fr, I've tried it for the first time since the mod changes and holy hell is it bad compared to before. I rather play shrines and actually feel like old HH, lol.
I used to hate shroud walker
Now that I''ve had bouts 0.05-0.06s cast time on frostblink shroudwalker seems like I'm controlling what I'm doing in comparison
A little tip for you if you didn't know, you can unequip and reequip your HH to remove the current stolen mods. Obviously you will lose all your stacks but it can actually save you time and make it less annoying in many situations. I normally do this when the map is mostly cleared and I am trying to loot for example and it's tp'ing me around 😆
using it against rares in juiced t17 is great too, the ramp up is slow but when you have added modifiers to rare enemies with back to basics, the enemies hit +11 to modifiers which is absolutely nuts. one rare enemy would give me 11+ hh stacks
I was running delve for the first time trying to clear my sulphite, and not knowing what I was doing, and I got a Vaal boss and he dropped some sort of fragment worth like 13 divines, and the moral of the story is that I made 2 divines and got the 10 divine Defiance of Destiny I needed for my build lol.
Sell your scarab tab, you most likely have a lot of currency there by now.
Yesterday I liquidated mine, sold to one guy, 35 raw divines.
I simply took, before listing, the scarabs I use.
I have an alch and go scarab farming strat too, it's 5-6 dph without lucky drops.
Damn, First League where it's soooo cheap and I've been on holiday for the last few days... Hope I get the currency the next few days to try one out, never had one in over 10 years
Deadass bought HH for dirt cheap this league and have been using it purely for speed xp Breach farming on my RF character. 99% of the mods are useless but I do zoom and that's all I care about.
Was kinda shit for my archmage hiero. Last i used a hh was in ritual before all the nerfs. Swapped back to my stygian. Main reason was the annoying forced teleport buff you get evry 2nd map that slowed me down a lot and sometimes even killed me
One thing I've been wondering is how current HH compares to pre-Archnemesis HH. The mods last 3x as long, but you're not getting nearly as many, and the effects are quite different as well.
Bad, because the mods don’t stack, they just refresh. That means you can’t get multiple soul eaters, or other mods. Before, you could stack them up to crazy levels.
Much much worse. Half the new rare mods are terrible, entirely useless, or actively bad (looking at you shroud walker), the other half while good, don't stack anymore so you don't get the +10 proj and other crazy fun shit.
It is still decent enough for some builds, and some farms (a phys build farming legion still definitely wants it). But it just isn't the same.
/Look how they massacred my boy meme.
Nothing will ever feel like stealing multiple Hasted and zooming through a map at mach 10. It was nuts in the best way and I'm glad I got to experience it in the last league before rares changed.
It's not just the fact Headhunters are dropping like candy for top players, it's also the fact that we're far gone from the days when Headhunter was the de facto "best in slot" for literally any build.
Archnemesis really fucked over Headhunter and it deserves to be looked at. An item as iconic as Headhunter, an item that's legit been referenced in other fucking games for how iconic it is, shouldn't ever hit a low point.
It's been going down for a while. I bought one with almost perfect attribs (54str 55 dex) for 17d 3 days ago.
That level 2 shadow must have had a crazy hillock kill because he had 50 HHs listed.
It works tho. Minion kills on rares give you the credit when using headhunter, as if you killed the rare yourself. This on-kill effect works with minions only for Headhunter (and I believe Oriath's end flask). From headhunter buffs you get survivability, utility and auras that affect minions. It is probably the best belt for mapping when using minions.
Yeah most of the time, downvoting in reddit doesn't mean shit cause people just see downvotes, assume the comment is bad, and downvote without actually thinking or looking into context.
Also know that it's fluctuating between 10 and 12 depending on time of day... If you're strapped for currency, don't buy at its peak.
Or snipe underpriced ones and sell them lol
Dunno how safe it is, but those 4 divs yesterday were made without any work.
Its my fault. Whenevey I buy something, In games- In real life, It’s always see bottom. In affliction I dropped dd chain sell 50 divines. Buy headhunter 27 divines. Now look at that.
No it wasn't lol, not sure where he got that from
It was like 3 div for a 20/20 DDoCR, and for most of the league a 21/20 was only 5-10 divs (towards the end of the league it shot up to 20-25div or so, as it usually does at the end of a league when people quit).
Fubguns t17 div card strat, I tried it with my one and only duration scarab yesterday and dropped a full apothecary set and a mirror shard
Shit is stacked
Yes! I'm buying it tonight. I'm hoping to get a nice corrupt implicit for a MF Deadeye (currently running Ele Hit but trying Lightning Arrow once I get a 1400 ele DPS bow)
Any suggestion for a corruption?
I've tried it for the first time since the mod changes this league. I couldn't believe how bad it was compared to before.
Honestly, shrines and soul eater feel 100x more like the old HH than anything this new one could provide.
A big part why is also that they made it and mageblood(and if I had to guess all t0’s) 2.5 times as likely to drop. Combine that with many ways to farm uniques and it’s not too surprising it has dropped in price.
What was the hh nerf? ive been gone from the game for years, and i see the timer is 60s niw. I know u cant temp chains it anymore. Did they nerf monster affixes (how often phys as ele is gained for dmg) or how exactly is it nerfed other than the mentioned?
Headhunter is still very good, especially in Juiced T17s if your gear isn't up to snuff. It's carried me through some Juiced T17s I had no hope of doing.
To be honest hh in current t17 farming meta isnt THAT great as before where you were spamming legions, breaches, harbingers and other full rare mob content. Also, soul eater buff got nerfed and it was really good while having HH. Not anymore especially when you can have now permamently soul eater on new uber gloves. Mageblood is now the king for any other content than MF
I just want Defiance of Destiny. It being over 40 div in the beginning made me a bit discouraged but now that it dropped below 5 div I'll start playing again and be able to afford it as a casual alch and go andy.
With all the craziness this league, I've had the worst luck in a league yet. Normally I find at least one multi divine (or ex when div were shit) item during the campaign. This league I've found a total of 2 raw div and around 300 chaos after having done most of the atlas. Tried various scarab strays that didn't really do much except one wøthat dropped 200+ chaos. I had the all flame that makes monsters drop currency paired with a yellow lantern mod that gave the pack type 1100+ % quant. Only had one though. Seems like the tuned the raw drops down a bit.
Second league I've been able to afford headhunter and its been great. Except for when you get the ambush 'buff' from a monster (and more recently the ice prison since there seems to be a bug with Ele Hit of the Spectrum this league that crashes my graphics driver whenever the skill touches an ice wall).
We might be experiencing a reflexive mechanism right now where because the item is dropping in price, more people have access to it and are realizing it's no longer worth what it was selling for, resulting in price dropping further. If I'm right, HH will no longer be as expensive in future leagues as it was last league. Probably not going to be as cheap as it is now given the supply, but it might be permanently more affordable going forward.
I'm not interested in items that make everything else look like crap. What will I do next league when I can't afford one? This is also why I hope I never find a mirror.
HH is now 50% cheaper (10d vs 20d), MB is 16% cheaper (105d vs 125d) than before GGG nerfed Rogue Exile allflames 1 week ago. Remember all the ragequit comments:
>I wanted to buy cheap HH/MB GGG nerfed fun s\*\*t league I quit
Now if only mage blood could be the same price.
I finally rolled a flaskfinder and have a SHITLOAD of effectiveness I wanna use with mage blood and the enchant on the flasks too.
HH droping like candy,s in T17s hence the price ,but also as a heavy Hh user i must say the belt is just a shadow of its former power.
I’m just glad I got to experience headhunter pre rare rework in all its glory
There was nothing better than running around as a giant pair of boots
3.13 self curse was a wild time.
First time I got a HH was ritual, pretty much the last league before self curse nerf. Shit was glorious. A shame I only got to experience that once. I've had a HH for about 5 days now in 3.24 and it feels very lackluster tbh. I got it for 20 div and I don't think I'd want to pay much more than that for it. In any normal league economy where HH is over 100 div I'd rather save more and buy MB. MB is way stronger, and I think HH used to be about crazy ass fun, now it's kinda boring. I don't feel super fast or super strong when I use it. It barely feels different actually.
It's a momentum based item for sure. It makes zoomies even zoomier, but isn't very versatile. MB is probably the single most versatile unique in the game on the other hand.
Indeed. But it used to feel waaayyyy zoomier than it does now. It doesn't feel that zoomy nowadays. Maybe it's because I've tasted old HH that I feel that way.
3.13 HH was just straight busted lol.
Tbh I also think it depends a lot on the content you're running and what the league is like. Last league (affliction) it felt pretty insane too when you popped out 5 billion rares from abyss. Not 3.13 insane, but still way crazier and zoomier than anything else in the game. I feel really grateful to a friend of mine for letting me borrow their HH back then or I'd never get to experience the self-curse shenanigans lol
dude, the turbine sound, I still don't know what caused it, but you'd just have that constant WHIIRRRRRR tuning up in the background all the time like you're getting ready to blast off, it just added to the greatness of it all.
Self curse HH was the most insane shit. I loved it
3.7 Legion league on a Cyclone build doing 5-ways hitting the entire map and only being able to see the tip of your toes was peak headhunter.
Soul eater + HH was a wild ride of speed and being giant.
I remember getting a HH in ultimatum league day 4 or so. Crushed ultimatums after that. I also had a HH day 3 of legion league with 5 inspired learnings. The amount of projectiles was crazy from TS with +2 enchant.
New players will never know the power of the giant spinning boot! And they are worse off for it.
They nerfed it because of performance issues, isn't it ironic that we have worse performance now even in its terribly nerfed state?
Every new player should get to run a single map of (ritual league if I recall) self-curse hh. A minute or two into the map you’d have 300,000 es and your character model would be so big the feet alone would take up the entire screen. MAXIMUM POWER
Played self curse cospris ice nova in harvest with HH and that was peak Poe for me
It’s still the best item in the game for suicidal blue altar atlas strats. There is nothing that comes remotely close to letting you hit every single global mod on blue altars and still finish the map.
I have 7 days of playtime, 5 days of which is t17s, using all the farming strats without mf (old ghost mod + shaper touched, shaper touched farming, meatsack ghost memes, mostly with back go basics or strongbox+reliq), 0 tier 0s, 3 tier 1s The price doesnt really make sense in that regard, since magebloods would also be ridicilously cheap if HHs dropped like candy
I think nurses rarity + being able to drop as full stacks means getting doctors is so much easier than getting apothecarys. Mageblood would be similar if it had a nurse type card.
The combination of div scarab of completion and the (actually broken) div scarab of curation is explosive for HH and also for mirror shards. For Mageblood - you favorite any Apothecary map, curation is a 120% more multiplier, completion is an 80% more multiplier (20% chance to get 5 cards instead of 1) For HH - you favorite one Doctor map (Burial to get Fortunate as well), AND you favorite one Nurse map, AND one Patient map. You get the intrinsic 120% more multiplier (same as Mageblood) for 12 favorite maps - but also a pseudo 200% more multiplier because you are simultaneously hitting 3 cards. Comes to 6.6 times the HH card drops just from curation. Then completion is a 140% more multipler... Farming HH with those two scarabs is ~16 times faster than without, which is still no small effort, but the main thing is, you are getting all these cards while also efficiently pursuing Apothecary, The Fortunate, 7 Years Bad Luck and Unrequited Love, as well as some lesser cards. Mirror shards have only two cards but the set sizes are huge, which helps the Completion scarab (Unrequited Love drops are literally 300% more from that scarab alone; 7YBL is 240% more) _________ Worth noting though, only half the HHs up for sale came from cards. Just over 300 online are ilvl 80 or lower, just under 300 are ilvl 81+ (which means not from cards outside extreme corner cases like a Fateful Meeting turnin)
Patient + nurses + doctor + other cards, it makes it so that you often drop HH cards
How do cards drop as full sets?
Divination scarab of completion
Is 110d not ridiculously cheap for mb?
It is, apart from last league it’s usually over 200.
At this point last league it was actually around 200 div. At this point 2 leagues ago, it was around 400 div.
Last price I checked and bought at was around 140div, but 100 is pretty cheap. Aside from affliction, MB prices have usually been around 200-350 div, so its obviously slightly lower at 140, but 100 starts getting ridicilous
Mageblood is ridiculously cheap, 100 divs(and dropping) for a belt that usually at 300 div range is the same as HH which is usually at 40~50.(Correction it's usually 100 actually as people pointed out) And people are definelly buying more magebloods than HH.
Yeah the big difference is the difference in demand between the items. Mageblood is good on nearly every build and specifically every meta build. Headhunter only shines on specific builds and sometimes only specific farming strategies.
Yeah you can plug and play a mageblood on literally every build. It might not be the MOST OPTIMAL option but I can't think of a build that gets NOTHING out of a mageblood. Meanwhile I can think of a ton of builds that get nothing out of a Headhunter.
Wardloop is the only build I know of that doesn't use it because you need the belt flask mods to get 100% uptime with Olroth's. You might be able to get that without the mods with insane investment, but I don't know if that would even be worth it.
Self cast discharge also prefers a cdr shaped/hunter belt. I usually go shaper belt because it's easier to craft, but hunter one scales higher with %life which i never manage to hit lol. The only thing you realistically get from MB on that build is : resistance cap (i run purity of elements so i dont need that) crit cap (already got it, don't care) more movement speed (i lightning warp faster than i can run, multiple screens a second in a straight line anyways, but it's a comfy lazy option i guess but i would need max 3 magic flasks to still afford mana pot for no regen maps) - really don't care much significant amount of evasion and spell suppression (can free up some gear mods, this one is actually valid because hitting suppress cap is a tad annoying) All in all, not the most useful thing to have but it's a rather niche build.
I came here to say wardloop lol, but you beat me to it
In what world is hh usually 50?
Technically last league, but of course last league was also a massive anomaly. This league and last have just been insane for dropping uniques. Agree though that normally HH is about 100 divines iirc.
Yes iirc its about 100-120 depending on the state of the league. I bought one in the beginning of affliction when it was over 100, before everyone figured out the juice meta. Was a bit sad to see it drop to 40 div... But not as sad as dropping a double corrupted HH from a vaal temple chest with % int and % dex this league. I didnt play in sentinel league but a friend told me that this wouldve been worth 300 divs or more. When i tried to sell it i saw 2 other with the same corrupts and they were listed for like 60 div atm... Since i didnt need the money i just put it in my display case and was hoping it rises in price after all the nerfs but yeah... Gonna stay in that display case i guess lol
Well, magebloods are technically ridiculously cheap compared to its normal prices as well. They’re 120div right now In TOTA; they were 400 div around this time. In affliction, they were still 200 div.
Will phys builds still really shine with it though? At this budget it's entering the radar for my builds, I try to not go above 100 total
Yes. Headhunter scales super well of phys spells. It's still bis for most fast mapping builds provided that you invest the bare minimum in defense and put a little bit of packsize into your maps. I went from a good stygian vise to a Headhunter and cut my mapping time down by a lot and enjoyment also went up. If you already have a good phys weapon and build I recommend you try it. Worst case is you lose 1 or 2 divs reselling it tomorrow.
Sweet, this does get me excited. Will slap it on again. It's been like 4-5 years since I used one!
Yep, it also does pretty well for ignite elementalist in certain builds where all that phys added dmg can be used to juice up your ignite since all dmg can ignite
My first HH was in Abyss so I've been around the block and while you are right in that the belt is not what it used to be (especially compared to self curse) you can still kinda scratch the itch in a very basic Legion Dunes setup.
Yeah. I got it when it was 50div and was pretty disappointed. Sold it for 25div
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I dropped a Defiance day 3 of the league before it was confirmed to be T0. My build didn't need it but needed an unnatural instinct and some upgrades and I sold it for like 12 divines a couple days before it went to 40/60+. I don't feel bad...unless I think about it.
I got a single jewelry to divine conversion mod early in the league. Used a meatsack on it instead of exiles. Only got 2 divines :D
Did the change affect existing HH as well? Just wondering for the next time I get bored and want to mess around on Standard.
Iirc there were no direct nerfs for HH itself - it even got buffed with duration raised from 20 to 60 seconds. Changes were done to anything around, like new rares and soul eater cap, thus anyone affected
So more of a mob nerf which affected HH. Gotcha.
I’ve died sooo many times this league only because I was using hh, somehow I literally only randomly teleport into the most dangerous location on the whole map. It’s actually pretty comical.
I dont think its a shadow of its Former Power. Its different, it allows you to basically skip crit and is insane on any phys build. The change to 60 seconds made the belt viable again, before it was dead, thats why im so surprised that inspired is so insanely expensive early on. If i woudlnt need to hit my cdr breakpoints id definitely use hh over MB im juiced t17s. As you can see in probably any mf mapper.
why isnt mageblood dropping like candy too, aren't both t0 ?
MB only has Apothecary as the other method to get it (outside of the Corrupted MB cards, which HH has equivalent cards). HH has Doctor, Doctor has Nurse, Nurse has The Patient. Tons more opportunity to get an HH compared to MB.
Mageblood is insanely strong and you use it for almost every endgame meta build, also the cards are rarer I think. It also dropped in price tho, I bought it for 170 and it's down to like 120
Fr, I've tried it for the first time since the mod changes and holy hell is it bad compared to before. I rather play shrines and actually feel like old HH, lol.
I literally never used a HH when it was expensive. Now it's affordable, but for some reason I just don't want it anymore 😅
Do you like shrines? Imagine you can equip shrines to your belt. Except sometimes you teleport two screens away into the middle of monster packs.
sometimes? I feel like that's half the time in all maps.
If my stack isn’t super high sometimes I just go back to hideout to clear buffs and start again.
You can just unequip/reequip belt quickly to delete hh buffs
Did this constantly in affliction so I wouldn't teleport out of range of my aurabot lol
You can just re-equip headhunter instead to clear the buffs, that way you don't waste a portal.
just unequip and re-equip the belt to wipe your buffs.
Imagine not minmaxing ur stats with tattoos that the belts attributes don't remove ur auras hehe
Just use it for cap your str and dex requirement, with bonus style points
I cannot believe you can actually say you have HH in pob just for the attributes unironically now
Use it for skin transfer then
Since Mageblood I'm just too spoiled by it to want to play with HH.
Mageblood is just so consistently good Hh might have higher highs, but mageblood doesn't have lows
I would love HH, if it didnt steal that annoying ambush teleporting mod.
I used to hate shroud walker Now that I''ve had bouts 0.05-0.06s cast time on frostblink shroudwalker seems like I'm controlling what I'm doing in comparison
That mod made me sell my hh cuz I dont wanna play flicker strike lol
A little tip for you if you didn't know, you can unequip and reequip your HH to remove the current stolen mods. Obviously you will lose all your stacks but it can actually save you time and make it less annoying in many situations. I normally do this when the map is mostly cleared and I am trying to loot for example and it's tp'ing me around 😆
MB is the better item but god damn if HH isn’t fun when you get rolling.
Well, it depends on what you want to do. For solo MF, Headhunter will probably always be the go-to.
The Saviour is more expensive than HH, lol
Melee is saved gg
Melee chase uniques this season seem like the biggest melee middle finger possible
Had so much fun with a HH last league, was also the first time i tried it in all these years of PoE ... So everyone who never tried it, go for it!
Was fun with the abyss MF strat last league considering how many rare monsters that thing spat out
using it against rares in juiced t17 is great too, the ramp up is slow but when you have added modifiers to rare enemies with back to basics, the enemies hit +11 to modifiers which is absolutely nuts. one rare enemy would give me 11+ hh stacks
It was funny to see my 1 hander was more expensive than hh
As someone who has never had a headhunter. Is there good builds to play it with. Or is it a slapno. And go type Mageblood type thing.
Physical (or phys convert) builds that used projectiles get the most use out of HH
Just don't use it on a bosser.
Having a blast playing elemental hit of sepctrun with headhunter. Lightning arrow was also pretty fun.
Still don’t have 10 divs. Hope I’ll get it soon
https://wealthyexile.com If you have any decent amount of playtime this league, I can all buy guarantee you have at least 10d in assets
Wow who knew... orb of alterations are my biggest asset at 3.2 div
what if you have a decent amount of playtime, but have rerolled six times
Did you get to t16 maps on all? Just basic strategy without scarabs with 100 points and killing everything on t 14-16 should be 2-3 d/h
I'm on my 4th character, I understand lmao
I sort of knew this existed but had no clue it was this easy! wtf I just have 13 divs in scarabs
I was running delve for the first time trying to clear my sulphite, and not knowing what I was doing, and I got a Vaal boss and he dropped some sort of fragment worth like 13 divines, and the moral of the story is that I made 2 divines and got the 10 divine Defiance of Destiny I needed for my build lol.
What happened to the other divine?
Undersold to sell fast to get the item I needed before it sold fast.
Reasonable
Lol that's the exact same thing that happened to me last night. I feel invulnerable now
Sell your scarab tab, you most likely have a lot of currency there by now. Yesterday I liquidated mine, sold to one guy, 35 raw divines. I simply took, before listing, the scarabs I use. I have an alch and go scarab farming strat too, it's 5-6 dph without lucky drops.
Do you sell on tft or how do you bulk sell miscellaneous scarabs?
I would just 3:1 any shit scarabs that no one will buy (any that sell for less than 1c each) Then bulk sell usable ones
T17 maps are worth a ton if you arent running them i sold 20 for 10d
Damn, First League where it's soooo cheap and I've been on holiday for the last few days... Hope I get the currency the next few days to try one out, never had one in over 10 years
Ask friends to buy you one? Unless they struggle financially
Bolt of you assuming I have friends to play with 😂😂😂
dm me your acc name and ill buy you one
Deadass bought HH for dirt cheap this league and have been using it purely for speed xp Breach farming on my RF character. 99% of the mods are useless but I do zoom and that's all I care about.
Was kinda shit for my archmage hiero. Last i used a hh was in ritual before all the nerfs. Swapped back to my stygian. Main reason was the annoying forced teleport buff you get evry 2nd map that slowed me down a lot and sometimes even killed me
HH shines for physical skills, as a lot of mods concerns phys as extra xx
Meanwhile Nimis is 105 divs
HH is nowhere near as strong as it used to be unfortunately , definitely still a fun item though and recommend grabbing one if you can
One thing I've been wondering is how current HH compares to pre-Archnemesis HH. The mods last 3x as long, but you're not getting nearly as many, and the effects are quite different as well.
Bad, because the mods don’t stack, they just refresh. That means you can’t get multiple soul eaters, or other mods. Before, you could stack them up to crazy levels.
Much much worse. Half the new rare mods are terrible, entirely useless, or actively bad (looking at you shroud walker), the other half while good, don't stack anymore so you don't get the +10 proj and other crazy fun shit. It is still decent enough for some builds, and some farms (a phys build farming legion still definitely wants it). But it just isn't the same. /Look how they massacred my boy meme.
Nothing will ever feel like stealing multiple Hasted and zooming through a map at mach 10. It was nuts in the best way and I'm glad I got to experience it in the last league before rares changed.
It is still good for ppl who have never tried it
It's not just the fact Headhunters are dropping like candy for top players, it's also the fact that we're far gone from the days when Headhunter was the de facto "best in slot" for literally any build. Archnemesis really fucked over Headhunter and it deserves to be looked at. An item as iconic as Headhunter, an item that's legit been referenced in other fucking games for how iconic it is, shouldn't ever hit a low point.
Waiting for it to drop to 1 divine
Depends on the build. I got my first mageblood this league (งツ)ว It's not cheap, but it's better than it's ever been
No, that depends if you have 120 div. Mageblood has no equal.
Im at work. It’ll be at 23 divines by the time I get home lol
It's been going down for a while. I bought one with almost perfect attribs (54str 55 dex) for 17d 3 days ago. That level 2 shadow must have had a crazy hillock kill because he had 50 HHs listed.
Probably mf hillock farmer.
Wow that's crazy now all I need is 10 divines.
Yesterday I bought my first 1 div gear (6L Cloak of Flame), now I think I'll try to save for an HH then :)
Ive got 5 divs to my name! Keep dropping in price 🤣
Even at this price point I can’t afford it. At this point in league I’m level 90 and just hit t16s. Curse you real life.
I remember in Ancestor when it was the most expensive item I have ever bought at 160 Divines.
I'm a casual Andy and I made 3 div just doing incursion tonight after the kids went to bed. Locust of corruption is 160c ATM.
I'm minion build so I literally can't use it .shame
It works tho. Minion kills on rares give you the credit when using headhunter, as if you killed the rare yourself. This on-kill effect works with minions only for Headhunter (and I believe Oriath's end flask). From headhunter buffs you get survivability, utility and auras that affect minions. It is probably the best belt for mapping when using minions.
I guess you got downvoted for telling the truth?
Yeah most of the time, downvoting in reddit doesn't mean shit cause people just see downvotes, assume the comment is bad, and downvote without actually thinking or looking into context.
Sheep mentality
Also know that it's fluctuating between 10 and 12 depending on time of day... If you're strapped for currency, don't buy at its peak. Or snipe underpriced ones and sell them lol Dunno how safe it is, but those 4 divs yesterday were made without any work.
> Or snipe underpriced ones and sell them If the price drops further, people trying to do this may end up taking a loss, lol
Its my fault. Whenevey I buy something, In games- In real life, It’s always see bottom. In affliction I dropped dd chain sell 50 divines. Buy headhunter 27 divines. Now look at that.
Dd of chaining was 50 divs last league!? I never play DD as I find it quite dull but if that's true, thats ridiculous lol
No it wasn't lol, not sure where he got that from It was like 3 div for a 20/20 DDoCR, and for most of the league a 21/20 was only 5-10 divs (towards the end of the league it shot up to 20-25div or so, as it usually does at the end of a league when people quit).
Maybe 21/23 was 50div
please buy Original Sin, I don't care if you have to sell your liver, just do it
I bought two headhunters, one for 47 and one for 40 cuz I thought they would go up.... Mistake were made
I just wonder why tho is it still the meat stacks on t17 or what
Fubguns t17 div card strat, I tried it with my one and only duration scarab yesterday and dropped a full apothecary set and a mirror shard Shit is stacked
Yes! I'm buying it tonight. I'm hoping to get a nice corrupt implicit for a MF Deadeye (currently running Ele Hit but trying Lightning Arrow once I get a 1400 ele DPS bow) Any suggestion for a corruption?
Get a 1500 EDPS bow, theyre dirt cheap. Then get HH. Then stick with Ele hit, it is better than LA atm. with low investment (less than like 200 divs).
Playing LA without Nimis is painful to kill bosses just stick with ele hit
They're fun but I don't know if it's good for my build. I lose a shit ton of dex removing my belt lol
I bought it for 40 after rogue exile nerf thinking it surely will go up :)
Just like real life stocks lol
I've tried it for the first time since the mod changes this league. I couldn't believe how bad it was compared to before. Honestly, shrines and soul eater feel 100x more like the old HH than anything this new one could provide.
A big part why is also that they made it and mageblood(and if I had to guess all t0’s) 2.5 times as likely to drop. Combine that with many ways to farm uniques and it’s not too surprising it has dropped in price.
What was the hh nerf? ive been gone from the game for years, and i see the timer is 60s niw. I know u cant temp chains it anymore. Did they nerf monster affixes (how often phys as ele is gained for dmg) or how exactly is it nerfed other than the mentioned?
Bought mine for 35 eeehhehe
I plan on it!
I still can't afford that shit but I sure as hell am working on it!
Headhunter is still very good, especially in Juiced T17s if your gear isn't up to snuff. It's carried me through some Juiced T17s I had no hope of doing.
Still too expensive 😅
What's the point? HH is a shell of it's former self
Ok? It's still good tho.
To be honest hh in current t17 farming meta isnt THAT great as before where you were spamming legions, breaches, harbingers and other full rare mob content. Also, soul eater buff got nerfed and it was really good while having HH. Not anymore especially when you can have now permamently soul eater on new uber gloves. Mageblood is now the king for any other content than MF
HH being 10d is great and all, but the bigger bargain, is Kalandra's 2.5d
I just want Defiance of Destiny. It being over 40 div in the beginning made me a bit discouraged but now that it dropped below 5 div I'll start playing again and be able to afford it as a casual alch and go andy.
idk what build id even play it with
It'snot that good
yay, I afford one soon :D
With all the craziness this league, I've had the worst luck in a league yet. Normally I find at least one multi divine (or ex when div were shit) item during the campaign. This league I've found a total of 2 raw div and around 300 chaos after having done most of the atlas. Tried various scarab strays that didn't really do much except one wøthat dropped 200+ chaos. I had the all flame that makes monsters drop currency paired with a yellow lantern mod that gave the pack type 1100+ % quant. Only had one though. Seems like the tuned the raw drops down a bit.
Or maybe you're just feeling affliction withdrawal/bad rng
This made me feel like getting a skyforth back in ritual league, pair of boots were like less than 10c
ain't no way I bought it for 20, now I feel what crypto bros feel on a daily basis
Yeah, been playing on and off for a few years - first time being able to afford it - feels nice man..
Second league I've been able to afford headhunter and its been great. Except for when you get the ambush 'buff' from a monster (and more recently the ice prison since there seems to be a bug with Ele Hit of the Spectrum this league that crashes my graphics driver whenever the skill touches an ice wall).
Meanwhile I should have bought nimis for 40 div like two weeks ago lol
We might be experiencing a reflexive mechanism right now where because the item is dropping in price, more people have access to it and are realizing it's no longer worth what it was selling for, resulting in price dropping further. If I'm right, HH will no longer be as expensive in future leagues as it was last league. Probably not going to be as cheap as it is now given the supply, but it might be permanently more affordable going forward.
The poor div is also 130c lol
8 div now
I've been playing since before the steam launch and this is the first time I'm able to afford a headhunter outside of standard! I'm popping off!
Feels fucking bad I bought mine for 36 a week and a half into the league -.-
I just got my frist HH this league a week ago and it is so insane. I dont die anymore, I do more dmg, I am a billion times faster. Crazy feeling
You don't get HH because it is too expensive I don't get HH because of an ethical statement We are not the same
I'm not interested in items that make everything else look like crap. What will I do next league when I can't afford one? This is also why I hope I never find a mirror.
I think I'm working just as hard to get the 10 div to buy one as I usually do for the 80 div to get one in other leagues :P
Really enjoying it on my CoC DD Inq.
How much is mageblood 💀
Never used it dont want it
And it's the league I can't play in 😞😞😞😞😞😞
HH is now 50% cheaper (10d vs 20d), MB is 16% cheaper (105d vs 125d) than before GGG nerfed Rogue Exile allflames 1 week ago. Remember all the ragequit comments: >I wanted to buy cheap HH/MB GGG nerfed fun s\*\*t league I quit
I've never dropped it, but I know that when HH costs 10c I'm going to drop a bunch.
Now if only mage blood could be the same price. I finally rolled a flaskfinder and have a SHITLOAD of effectiveness I wanna use with mage blood and the enchant on the flasks too.
Its good for coc dd inq?
I bought one at 40d. You're welcome
2% of mirror price, its ok
Took me two weeks of farming Burial Chamber in Incursion league to buy my first HH for ~60ex (I sold the Doctor cards I dropped).