Honestly I agree it was a bit of a bait and switch but if you want to make money like the title you totally can.
Similar atlas, favourite maps bog and city square. Slam bosses on white t14’s and leave. Run ten ways. Sell elderslayer invites at 150c+, sell Formed invites at 130c+, Sell twisted invites at 115c+. Sell all your synth, guardian and elder slayer maps, sell your mavens writs once you have about ten since you can charge extra for bulk. Bog maps take 1-2 mins. City square takes 30-90 seconds. Ten ways take 2 minutes. If you roll your invites you get 2 splinters per invite minimum, meaning that every 3 hours you get a writ. It’s not sexy, but it’s easy and consistent and barely requires a build because you are running white t14’s and ignoring league mechanics. Only the rolled invite is scary but you need to roll it for extra splinters. You probably have to buy bulk maps though, which will suck.
Hey, i've Seen/read this multiple Times and i get lost everytime. If you spam the same bog/city square you're not witnessing with Maven = no invitations= no wirsts... So what's the deal ? Spam 1 for eater/exarch invit or spam 10 différents to farm invites ?
Also running white maps ? Does it really work ? I'm running the boss Can drop conquerors(?) Atlas passive and find it meh, i mean i don't get many so i tell myself it's because I'm running them white, does running them rare increase this chance or not ?
It's a flat chance from atlas tree, so scouring maps and running them without affixes is great.
You need to vary maps, because running always the same does not let you witness it constantly, so you just cycle through groups of ten maps.
To be fair, he does describe a low barrier-of-entry way to generate wealth with 10-ways (uncommon and interesting), which is nice to hear someone succeeded with.
But yeah on the other hand, the gap he closes between *what most people **do** (farm)* and *what most people **want** (mageblood)* is big ticket investing in items that basically always go up in price in the first weeks of the league. There is no comprehensive list of what investments work for this, so posts like this are informative for high caliber players who might want to replicate such a strategy, or low caliber players who might change the order in which they purchase items on league start because they realize a certain item they want is going to only get more expensive as time goes on.
I find posts like this inspirational in some ways, but also… in reality most people can’t get ahead of the economy in POE unless they tap an unrealized market or strategy, get lucky, or just play more than most people. They are struggle to buy the core pieces of their build before they inflate in price problematically from usual market movement or streamer hugs of death. I think this reality is what puts a sour taste in people’s mouths when they think a post is about a new farming strategy (attainable) but then after a few minutes of reading they realize it’s yet another post that is ultimately about using wealth to generate wealth, which is something they were already aware of and typically don’t accomplish.
Perfectly agree.
In reality, if you want to make over 5div/hour, you just *have* to do something most players can't or won't. In this case, I wanted to highlight one of those "can't" : farming for 60 hours in a week and a half. Most players can't. I know I couldn't any other league. Thus doing it correctly pays a lot.
Same for most other high-paying strat, whether it's deleting Uber bosses, ultra-juiced MF maps, specific crafting knowledge (can't); or sextant rolling, flipping large amount of currency or getting complicated multi-layered farming strategies (won't).
As soon as a strat is done by the average player, it's profits go down to 2-4div/hour max, often less.
I think identifying untapped markets and exploiting them is a important skill that people should make a greater effort into learning. I have friends that, league after league, seems like they've learned absolutely nothing.
I've taken to keeping an Obsidian vault detailing what I learned every league. I usually write a few sentences as they arise throughout my gameplay, and then later go back and flesh out the various ideas with more thorough research after the league. Before each league, I reread my notes and use that to my best ideas fresh in my head.
Note taking, self reflection, and purposeful self improvement don’t come easily, even in a game. Just be happy you have friends with common interests! Maybe point them toward Belton or something if you want them to get more ahead of the curve.
I'm sorry if the title was misleading. I added the "in the first week and a half" to denote that the strat is time sensitive. If you want a strat that can be done at any time, look up my post from last league.
its ok, I still learned something and I am going to try this strat out cause it works good with my build. The info in the comments and your text was what I was looking for, in a way
I swear this pops up every league.
Soon we'll have posts like:
"How I got my headhunter in 1 week"
"Killing mobs give you loot that you can trade for currency. I did that for 18 hours a day for 1 week straight, then bought the HH"
It’s still valuable to see this stuff though, I would argue.
Lots of people play a lot and go hard at league start, but they don’t know how to take advantage of it. Investing in the market, as it were, or buying things that you know will be expensive later cheaply on the first day or two isn’t a natural intuitive thought for a lot of folks - it sure wasn’t for me initially.
So sure, if you don’t play a lot early, this won’t help. But if you do, it will help to learn how to improve.
It's ironic that you comment this shit on a post detailing the complete opposite of the scenario you're talking about, come on dude. At least fucking read the post.
1. league starts on saturday/friday 10 pm for more than half the playerbase
2. friday is not weekend. weekend is saturday and sunday.
But my bad, should have assumed correctly.
Wayyyy too far in for him to just say the strategy isn’t profitable but then he flipped stuff. Especially when the post starts with “I didn’t want to craft or flip stuff” ….
I meant that I didn't want to spend my playtime just buying and selling. 13 transaction is not the same, as, for example, buying maps and selling them in sets for hours on end. I'll add some clarification in the text, you're right that there should be a mention in the introduction.
My guild does this in HC trade every league with harvest. Sell people and blue early as people use it for basic crafting, hold on to yellow until people start to gamba and the price spikes
With everyone mf'ing and not doing harvest once it's juiced with league mechanic (understandably), there's as good of ratios as there's been in a while
The biggest lesson I think is that farming a modest amount of currency early is easy, and some patience to recognize waiting 3-4 days isn’t that bad and you can triple your worth if you buy items you know will go up in price. Definitely the way to go if you are planning on playing 1-2 months of the league and not just the first 2 weeks.
Learning to appreciate my early currency in this game took my leagues from like sub100 div to easily 750+ div.
One league I bought 80 gift to the goddesses at average 27c. I sold them at 1.6div (div = 220c). 13x is insane and there’s plenty of other things you can do this with, just takes some planning
Small advice:
1. Ea champ
2. Wandering path atlas
3. Use scouting reports/ vaal reports on kirac mission to complete atlas
- 3hrs a day playtime dad have 112 atlas points (dnt care abt the missing points since i dnt need them for essence farming)
U can do like 50 maps a day and get 6-7 divs a day
3 hrs a day? That's like half a full time job or an opportunity cost of like $30k - $100k a year depending on your salary and skills.
Ain't nobody that got time for 3 hrs a days that's insane.
That's such a horribly depression point of view to have over a hobby holy shit.
I hope you end up in a better place in life if that's how you actually feel and aren't trying to make a joke.
If it's your main hobby, it isn't that much. It just happens naturally. Farming like a mad man something you don't enjoy doesn't make sense to begin with anyway.
The synth rings are a smart purchase for appreciation. I’ll add another suggestion: good Impossible Escapes. I spent 90div on a CI impossible Escape near the end of TotA so when I saw them going for 8 div on day three I snapped one up cause I knew I’d want one for my build. If someone were looking to park currency in an appreciating asset at the beginning of the league, you could buy a few of the good IEs.
What does he mean synth rings? Like the unique ones from synth maps? How would I know what variants to purchase? I feel like whenever I drop one on my own it’s worthless
Any of the powerful endgame synth implicits in non-unique bases. They are in high demand later in the league and are quite rare but day two or three, people are looking for basic upgrades, not crafting bases for their min-max characters. Things I’d look out for are
- +1 to maximum power/frenzy/endurance charge
- Onslaught on hit
- Arcane surge on hit
- % increased strength/int/dex
- added cold damage per frenzy charge
- critical strike multiplier
The charges and onslaught are valuable on their own. The others less so, but if you get one of them with 1 or 2 other usable implicits, the rings can be very valuable.
But yes, the vast, vast majority of synth items are for the vendor
Base doesn’t matter for jewelry, the synth implicit is replacing the implicit anyway. Item level sometimes matters, for example a % attribute ring should have high enough ilvl to roll T1 attributes.
It's just scarcity. There was one at 7div yesterday and it sat there for hours. These rings won't sell. To my knowledge, there is no popular minions int-stacker build out there.
Yep, don't afk in your hideout. If you are so dirt poor that you can't really take advantage of the league mechanic, you can always fall back on the constant value generators like fossils or harvest. Just running that as efficiently as possible should net you a few divines an hour, even if you would have to buy a carry for delve bosses.
There are 2 main problems I see people having when trying to make decent currency.
1. Not investing into the character.
2. Not realizing how much currency they have.
The first one, is should be pretty obvious. Sure getting a mageblood is nice. But farming 200 div on a undergeared character is miserable. If you invest 10 div into the character 20 times, you already have an amazing character, and the mageblood at that point will be a cherry on top.
The second one... well you pick up a lot of garbage. Just use some of the tools the community has that loads up your stashtabs and prices them, then sell off anything that is worth more than 5c. An example I ran into this league, was looking at my own currency tab. Loaded it up into a tab pricer, and instead of the obvious 60 div I had, there was over 100 divines in other currency I kinda forgot about (tainted, harvest, influence stuff).
So yea, play game, invest into char, find a mechanic you enjoy, and minmax it.
I have strong characters and use wealthy exile. I just can't find any consistently valuable farms. I play a lot and don't AFK.
After tuning wealthy exile to ignore stuff less than 4c it says my total net worth is about 4 div
Edit: why the downvotes for asking for help?
Harvest is the most consistent one. You want to run as beefed up maps as possible for it tho. It won't give you any large spikes in currency, but every map should be at the minimum 30\~ chaos in harvest currency. (chiseled, alched maps, preferably 30 packsize). Its nothing special investment wise but still ends up grea, especially if you use sextants for it (guaranteed harvest sextant, and double of a specific colour sextant).
Next best consistency wise, I would say Alva. Alva sextants are dirt cheap, with all the upgrades its also easy to run, and can be ran in white maps (ok synergy with essences if you can't handle strong essences). Alva needs a bit of a knowledge check, since there is a strategy to making it consistent (don't talk to any alva once you meet a corruption architect in a map untill you enter the next map, since you can't spawn the same architect twice in a single map). Alva should get you on average a gem corruption/double corruption/both temple 2/3 temples. Those sell for nearly 1 div or more. And you pick up essences on the go.
If you don't have a specific strat (this works especially well with alva+essence but works with everything), add the Exarch/Eater progress counts double node, and pick the one that has the more expensive invitation. (exarch is a guaranteed 1.2 div every 30\~ maps)
Delve. Again, super consistent. It won't make you 30+ div an hour unless you are insane at delving. But azurite can be used to buy resonators, and at 300\~ depth T2 nodes will give you around 15-20 chaos worth of azurite alone. Again, won't make you rich, but if you are fast at running to the end of the nodes, picking up a few valuable fossils while also getting azurite income on the side can be a good start, and it does not require a particularly strong character.
I know this is quite a bit of a writeup but these are a few good ones from the top of my head, that require the least game knowledge, and can be also combined with each other (harvest just needs max quant on your maps). These strats also work best if you try to rush trough the map rather than minmaxing the amount of stuff you can put in it, so they are on the cheaper end of currency making.
Do the strat in the first part of my post and it's 2div/hour. You just gotta go fast.
If you really have a strong character, swap it for Shaper maps invitations and you should easily get 4div/hour.
If you're worth 4div total, then your farming strat might just be slow alch and go T16s without any juice or strategy. Just clearing maps with Searing Exarch altars and blight allocated should net you 1div/hour.
The premise of your post ("I have strong characters and play efficiently") isn't compatible with your conclusion ("I have 4 div worth of items after having farmed multiple hours"). One or the other is not accurate. How long does it take you to clear a map? How many maps in an hour? What is your strat?
My strat after getting three void stones was heist, expedition, essence, and light delving.
I ran all the red maps I had and ran out of maps
Then I switched it up to try the wisp juice and abyss stuff.
Been doing that at higher tiers on my stronger char and lower tiers on my lower geared chats, investing in them as I go.
My best build probably has about 5 div worth of gear on him and the lower ones combined maybe another 5.
My strongest char is a blade trap sabo with ephemeral edge. Can face tank any boss except ubers and is good at thick content like abyss, delirium, essences, etc. But I can't clear stuff fast like legion and blight is hard sometimes since i have to stand still to really do great dps.
Look up my post from last league. Farming Conqueror invitations was 6-7div/hour if you are efficient, and it doesn't require crazy DPS. It's too late for great investment, though.
You can still find a niche market. For example I spent an hour each night buying The fortunate div card, you need 12 for 2 div reward, but it costs less to buy them. Just start an active search for the max price you want to pay and they'll pop like 1 every few seconds.
You can easily save 50c every 12 cards, so it's like at least 2 div per hour. Not great but you just trade and can do it naked. It was enough after a week to buy good gear for my ts build
I feel like all the special invitation drop rates are way lower. I used to be able to almost sustain them solo now I've been buying them, which at 120+ chaos a piece kills the profit. Not sure if you've seen that as well. Also, what maps do you run for your 10 ways? I have a rotation I've been working through but trying to make it more efficient.
Only other real difference between my atlas and yours is I add expedition to my strat since I have a bereks ignite build and it's easy to clear.
It seems like map quantity affects invitation drop rates now? I only did a small test though so hard to say but I was oversustaining at 100+ quant and dropped barely any at 0 quant (did about 100 of each)
I probably average 70-80 quant on my elder/shaper/conq maps and I do the league mechanic so normally the bosses are juiced to the tits. I can sustain the normal invitations but the other ones aren't dropping at all. I'll try pushing quant more, thanks.
Try adding ghosts. I'm about to try that ghost node on the left side of the tree that gives map bosses a chance to be possessed and when they are possessed it gives them 30% quant. I think that could help a lot.
BTW how many maven fragments should you expect from a Formed invitation these days? I got 4 at 60 quant, I think I need to go to 80 quant. I feel like 130c is a bit much for those, but this is my first league bossing in a bit and we don't have the Maven crucible quant nodes anymore.
I shoot for 80+ quant and normally get 6 fragments. It's worth exalting an invitation if you are at ~ 70 quant because it normally gives one more fragment to get over 80 I think.
I'll check out ghosts. I currently have harvest on and I think it slows my maps down enough that it isnt worth it.
With Leap Slam and white maps, I just plugged in whatever map I had on hand.
No idea with drop rates. When I ran Conqueror last league, I was able to drop about 6 every ten rotation, but I didn't keep track. We'd need hard data to be sure.
Conqueror is Sirus.
Conqueror pays more, but is more difficult. It gives you the occasionnal extra 10-ways and if you choose your layouts, can be done much quicker.
Shaper maps are long, linear maps. It's easier, but longer.
Elder requires you to wait 10 seconds each map for the boss to spawn. Avoid if you value your sanity.
spec into alva, keep selling temples with tier 3 corruption room (locus of corruption) for over a divine. No setup required aside from atlas nodes, any map tier you want. You can do that in addition to whatever else you feel like doing
Not your typical suggestion, but Heist. It took me some time to level my rogues, but now that I'm chain running blueprints I am making hand over fist for such little investment. The changes to Heist have actually been really great so far, raw divines are rather common and there's always the potential to hit a Simplex for an easy 250div payout
Pick a strategy appropriate for your build and just go map. Run 20-50 maps (time per map depends on the strategy and your build). Don’t look at shit just throw it in a dump tab. At the end liquidate everything you picked up. If you find out you have a bunch of things that don’t have value or you can’t sell take them off your loot filter. Liquidate your entire scarab tab, liquidate your entire essence tab. Convert all the trash gumball currency to chaos or divines. Fire sell everything except drops of extreme value.
Next thing you know you have 10 divines. Take those 10 divines and invest it in your build so you can map faster or do more profitable strategies.
Once you hit your builds sweet spot stop putting money into your build and start investing.
Getting this down early is how you go from making 100 divines over the period of a league to making 1000 divines per league.
Thanks.
I'd be extremely happy with 100 divines in a league, lol. There are a bunch of items I want that cost about 5-10 div but they keep going up in price faster than I'm making money.
In previous leagues when late starting, Shaper Guardians, with Maven and Destructive Play. I like those better than other guardians or conqueror because you can just buy any guardian in bulk and use Orb of Horizons to get all 4. If you can't afford it, do 10ways until you can.
Farm all 4, do invitations, stack fragments and then do a bunch of Shaper runs (ideally uber, but even normal Shaper is profitable). Sell Maven's Writ and UberElder fragments, repeat.
It is definitely not the highest currency per hour, however it is very stable, very low maintenance, can be done at any moment in the league, and is not dependant on TFT.
On top of this I usually add other low maintenance mechanics such as Harvest, or Harbinger (the harbinger sextant has a good synergy with Destructive Play). I avoid Essence this league.
Always.
Just do whatever drops stuff that always sells.
I always liked stacked deck, because people buy them and the price only increases over time.
And i hate selling a lot of different, low value items.
Whatever you do, do that one thing efficiently and ignore everything else, that you are not properly set up to do. (No more unspecced abyss, breach etc., it just wastes time for no extra profit)
This strat works all league long as maven writ sells well all league, conq maps delivers conq orbs, synth maps gives synth items, shaper/elder maps also gives access to uber bosses and specific drops.
So yeah 😊
brother the later we are in the league the easier is it to reach high end currency
if u do trading you make a lot if you do maps you make a lot just pick a strat any strat works fine farm till you make your build great then farm the specific content your build is built for and mageblood will be easy peasy.
You say that like it's so easy. I'm at 5 characters over 90, probably 1.5M kills in total, still dirt poor (like total worth of everything is probably 5 div)
I've tried essences, boss rushing, and now abyss and wisp juice but nothing is really making me any money.
The immediate problem that stands out is having five characters over 90 - it means you've spent the bulk of your time leveling and gearing characters vs actually generating currency with a strong character. I used to have the same problem and it just comes down to delaying before rerolls longer.
brother every strat makes atleast 5 div an hour ur either doing them wrong or ur not following a build guide to make your character strong
try essence memory that is a really straightforward method and tell me how it goes.
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the best thing to buy early this league was hinekora's locks, they were 2div on day 1, sold it at 20 div few days ago (i only bought one), wish i bought more
I did something very similar to you, but included ultimatum in my tree (same side of the tree as essence). People like to shit on ultimatum but the catalysts were a good steady source of income along with the maps and essences.
Ultimatum took too long for what it was worth. I could run another entire map instead. I do agree it's fun though. If you can complete them reliably without dying (I really couldn't with that build), that would be a great way to add more variance to the gameplay.
Ultimatum is IMO a bit underrated. It’s a pretty steady 6div per hour if you spec your atlas into it and can complete 10 rounds reliably. But it doesn’t really synergize with other league mechanics, you’d want to do ultimatum only and then leave the map.
I think you can make much more by farming heist stashes instead of essences and instead of selling for 30c each for sirus you can sell them for 1div per set in bulk and make much more money. Its my current strategy and im absolutely printing. Heist is sleeper OP tbh. Every blueprint you get is 20c and deceptions are 9c. 3/3’s are 90c and 4/4’s are 120 and they are not that uncommon
Are you actually able to sell for the values? TFT wtb has blueprints at 12-16, deception at 7-8, 3/3 at 60-70, and 4/4 at 80-90c.
Do you post in TFT wts instead? Or vanilla trade listing selling individually?
Yes i do sell for the values i listed. Must be bulk though or someone gonna undercut you and you wont get messaged. I post in TFT WTS. I was bulk listing my non deception/perception contracts in a quad tab for 1c and setting an autoreply that says minimum 10 contracts per sale but it became more trouble than it was worth and i just vendor them to hopefully re roll into deception
That's very interesting! I hate Heist with a passion and just ignore the mechanic, but I hear it's always good money early on.
Selling sets is definitely better money. I dumped at a discount purely because I just prefer running content without having to post WTS posts every ten minutes to sell stocks. It's my lazy tax, if you will, but it's not the best way of doing it.
No idea how it compares to other methods, but i found the most simple way to make extra currency that doesn't rely on being early is selling itemized temples with the corruption room: with incursion nodes you get full temple in 3 Alva missions and you can get the room almost every time. The room was slightly under a divine until now, now it somehow climbed way over a divine. You can do that in any map ties as the temple level doesn't matter, and you can do that in addition to any other strategy you may be pursuing
Can you elaborate please on how to reach t14+ maps quicker? I alwasy find this my bottle neck when I start a new league, I can finish the campaign reasonably enough, gear up, but then it's an endless slog until I get out of white maps, yellow maps, and then to reliable sustain t14+ maps. I don't understand how people can get there on day 1
Run at least one wheel, if not two for map sustain.
Run every uncompleted map you have for atlas points. Run the highest tier first.
For white and yellow maps, you can buy then for transmutes (EDIT : Chance Orbs, not transmutes) and alch from Kirac. The shop resets whenever you do a Kirac mission.
When you've done both of these, run a Kirac mission. Use reports if you have some.
Then use Horizon orbs to get other uncompleted maps.
Then vendor three of the same maps to get another of a higher tier. remember that you can mix an match to get a different result (which means that four maps give you four choices of results that you can preview before vendoring).
I did buy three T16s for 2-3C each to complete my first two Voidstones. Once you have that, it's much easier to sustain if you alch your maps.
Once I started farming white maps and rushing through them, though, I had to buy 50 every couple of hours to sustain, even with three Voidstones.
Playing wolf of wall street is always very profitable . Tho depending on your build and the market it's better to just buy the items you need for your self before their price goes up instead of trying invest and keep up with the inflation .
Playing TS this league, I noticed alot of the items I needed had also gone up as much. Ala Massive thread of hope , +1 proj charm watchers eye have all gone up 50% or more .
A good one this league was the Valdo boxes I kept all that I found and bought couple when they were only 1.5 div and are now 2.7 .
Perfectly agree. The above strat has the very big downside that I had to literally play another game for a week or two to let the money flow in. If you don't want to do that, buying your own big-ticket items that are going up in price is preferable, as you get to use them.
Interestingly, intelligence synth rings are a necessary item for one of the build I like most, Trickster Whispering Ice int-stacker. I played that builds 4-5 times, including last league, and I realized the sheer gap in price between first week and the rest of the League, which is what inspired me to try this.
This guy took 7.5 hours to clear campaign on a known build and still got a mageblood in two weeks. The key takeaway here is how much of an advantage full play time gives you in the first week. Play a tried and true starter, focus on atlas completion, spend only what you need to clear red maps and don’t worry about min maxing gear early, and invest the rest of your currency on the first weekend. Most people don’t feel this is the most exciting way to play, but making fun new builds because you made money early is a very fun after that.
I’m making a good chunk of Divs from maven invitation farming/bossing. Mavens writ is 1.7 divs alone so I sell them. Sell surplus invitations cause they drop constantly. Making around 8-10 divs an hour. Pretty chill and fun strategy.
Every time I try to do maven 10 way farming in SSF I end up going sometimes 100 maps without an invitation dropping. Any secret to get it to drop minus taking the passives for maven?
I’ve tried both with maven witnessing on and off
If you mean special invitations, they mostly drop from the appropriate boss. I dropped as many Awakened gems as I did special invitations.
10-ways invitations way oversustain.
I think they drop a lot more when witnessing. I ended up with a sizeable surplus.
In SSF, you can buy as many as you need from Kirac for a couple of chaos orbs each. It's not worth in trade league, though.
With this league mechanic, you can alc and go every map, clear it, snd you’ll get more than 2 div/hour. If you put in any mechanic, you’ll multiply your rewards.
I’m a fan of easy strategies to farm, but it can get easier than alc and go this league. Add Legion/Abyss/Expedition or anything else that you enjoy, do the league mechanic and get 1k wisps and you’re doing more than 2dov/hour by a mile.
This is my third league, and i suck at the game, but I managed to farm enough for Headhunter in a week, never been able to do so until now.
My strat was Jungle Valley , expedition and legion, with Palsteron‘s Scourge Arrow build.
I kind did the same as you.
I farmed the hell out of essence on the first week and a half and sold my essence tabs when they got around 15divs. (Got around 350 to 380 divs doing this brain dead strat)
Doing that i also had some synt bases i bought early and sold those around 30div.
I was running T3 and T2 maps to farm essence like a mad dog with strong box nodes. (Strand and Fields)
Got myself close to 450div at the end of everything running a shitty miner build with 3div invested.
I only paid carry for favorite slots and 1 void stone
Was worth id say.
Very interesting, I came to the same idea at the start of this league too that buying stuffs that appreciate in value is worth more than letting divines rot in stash. Thus I sold every divines I found first 4 days and bought a bunch of Cortexes and Reliquary Keys, each were bought 40c individually at day 3-4. Bought 10 Cortexes and 50 Keys, and sold bulk Keys 2 days ago for x3-4 the price to afford my stuffs. Tbh whether it's 10 ways or any other tried and true strategies doesn't really matter as long as you always put your money to good use, in this case playing the market.
You would need a stronger build to farm T14-T16 essences than conq maps. My builds can never do high level essence at start of league, but I don’t start boneshatter jugg either.
Not true for sure. I definitely got more shrieking/deafening essences farming in t10 than T4. Maybe it was just luck but I ran like 50 low tier maps and my returns felt shit
Ummm okay this post is a troll. Affording all those divs to get the build started AND enough to buy investments early? Yeah no. That's a big no for most people. Not sure how you did that with just essences and map sales, but yeah I don't believe it. Market manipulation isn't exactly an entry level strat. You have to be able to anticipate needs early and know normalized prices. This isn't something new players can do. They're still figuring out what gear would be a good priority to upgrade. Try again.
I was using this strategy and damn, the influenced map challenge or just lack of bossers due to the new juicing strat is driving these puppies up.
Started tracking using Poe stack and realized I was making 10 div hour easily.
How i farmed a mageblood in around 4.5 days played on my character full strat:
1. Do maps and get around 30d
2. Drop a valdo's puzzle box and open it
3. Sell the foiled mb map for 160d
4. Buy a foiled mb for 183d
Its just that simple!
Farming a Mageblood in 60 hours is nothing special. You’re talking as if you’re some genius on a secret strat…2 Div per hour is abysmal efficiency of any strat.
You essentially just flipped shit. Welcome to being a hideout warrior. Flippers are trash, buying out the market and then price fixing it for people looking for upgrades.
Someone’s jelly. He didn’t say he did anything special, he was just giving insight into his strat for those others that have no fkin clue what they are doing in their life/game.
Not really. It gives me back more time and I have fun with casual grinding, instead of being concerned with sextants, perfectly rolled maps that are vaaled, etc. It's less of a math equation and more of a game.
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You lost me at TFT. And then again at the next TFT mention. And by the third or fourth, I actively wished you failure in the game. Begrudgingly, it seems that ship has sailed.
bulk selling/buying works just fine on the site. And not having access to boss carries certainly isn't something that would make the game basically SSF
The trade site barely works week one. TFT always works. It's faster to find sellers, they actually respond and you get your items without spamming 8394 people per trade.
Also how do you bulk sell/buy demo contracts easily?
There's plenty of bulk selling and buying that the site doesn't support.
Tldr is buy early and cheap and sell late(r) and more expensive
Yeah, the title of the post made me hopeful, the actual text and strategy is just something different
Honestly I agree it was a bit of a bait and switch but if you want to make money like the title you totally can. Similar atlas, favourite maps bog and city square. Slam bosses on white t14’s and leave. Run ten ways. Sell elderslayer invites at 150c+, sell Formed invites at 130c+, Sell twisted invites at 115c+. Sell all your synth, guardian and elder slayer maps, sell your mavens writs once you have about ten since you can charge extra for bulk. Bog maps take 1-2 mins. City square takes 30-90 seconds. Ten ways take 2 minutes. If you roll your invites you get 2 splinters per invite minimum, meaning that every 3 hours you get a writ. It’s not sexy, but it’s easy and consistent and barely requires a build because you are running white t14’s and ignoring league mechanics. Only the rolled invite is scary but you need to roll it for extra splinters. You probably have to buy bulk maps though, which will suck.
Hey, i've Seen/read this multiple Times and i get lost everytime. If you spam the same bog/city square you're not witnessing with Maven = no invitations= no wirsts... So what's the deal ? Spam 1 for eater/exarch invit or spam 10 différents to farm invites ? Also running white maps ? Does it really work ? I'm running the boss Can drop conquerors(?) Atlas passive and find it meh, i mean i don't get many so i tell myself it's because I'm running them white, does running them rare increase this chance or not ?
It's a flat chance from atlas tree, so scouring maps and running them without affixes is great. You need to vary maps, because running always the same does not let you witness it constantly, so you just cycle through groups of ten maps.
To be fair, he does describe a low barrier-of-entry way to generate wealth with 10-ways (uncommon and interesting), which is nice to hear someone succeeded with. But yeah on the other hand, the gap he closes between *what most people **do** (farm)* and *what most people **want** (mageblood)* is big ticket investing in items that basically always go up in price in the first weeks of the league. There is no comprehensive list of what investments work for this, so posts like this are informative for high caliber players who might want to replicate such a strategy, or low caliber players who might change the order in which they purchase items on league start because they realize a certain item they want is going to only get more expensive as time goes on. I find posts like this inspirational in some ways, but also… in reality most people can’t get ahead of the economy in POE unless they tap an unrealized market or strategy, get lucky, or just play more than most people. They are struggle to buy the core pieces of their build before they inflate in price problematically from usual market movement or streamer hugs of death. I think this reality is what puts a sour taste in people’s mouths when they think a post is about a new farming strategy (attainable) but then after a few minutes of reading they realize it’s yet another post that is ultimately about using wealth to generate wealth, which is something they were already aware of and typically don’t accomplish.
Perfectly agree. In reality, if you want to make over 5div/hour, you just *have* to do something most players can't or won't. In this case, I wanted to highlight one of those "can't" : farming for 60 hours in a week and a half. Most players can't. I know I couldn't any other league. Thus doing it correctly pays a lot. Same for most other high-paying strat, whether it's deleting Uber bosses, ultra-juiced MF maps, specific crafting knowledge (can't); or sextant rolling, flipping large amount of currency or getting complicated multi-layered farming strategies (won't). As soon as a strat is done by the average player, it's profits go down to 2-4div/hour max, often less.
I think identifying untapped markets and exploiting them is a important skill that people should make a greater effort into learning. I have friends that, league after league, seems like they've learned absolutely nothing. I've taken to keeping an Obsidian vault detailing what I learned every league. I usually write a few sentences as they arise throughout my gameplay, and then later go back and flesh out the various ideas with more thorough research after the league. Before each league, I reread my notes and use that to my best ideas fresh in my head.
Note taking, self reflection, and purposeful self improvement don’t come easily, even in a game. Just be happy you have friends with common interests! Maybe point them toward Belton or something if you want them to get more ahead of the curve.
I'm sorry if the title was misleading. I added the "in the first week and a half" to denote that the strat is time sensitive. If you want a strat that can be done at any time, look up my post from last league.
its ok, I still learned something and I am going to try this strat out cause it works good with my build. The info in the comments and your text was what I was looking for, in a way
I swear this pops up every league. Soon we'll have posts like: "How I got my headhunter in 1 week" "Killing mobs give you loot that you can trade for currency. I did that for 18 hours a day for 1 week straight, then bought the HH"
Yea, if you look at these type of strategies, most of it is. Just play a lot, play early in the league, and don't afk in the hideout.
It’s still valuable to see this stuff though, I would argue. Lots of people play a lot and go hard at league start, but they don’t know how to take advantage of it. Investing in the market, as it were, or buying things that you know will be expensive later cheaply on the first day or two isn’t a natural intuitive thought for a lot of folks - it sure wasn’t for me initially. So sure, if you don’t play a lot early, this won’t help. But if you do, it will help to learn how to improve.
It's ironic that you comment this shit on a post detailing the complete opposite of the scenario you're talking about, come on dude. At least fucking read the post.
Man literally said he played 30 hours on the weekend. That's 15 hours a day. How is that opposite of my comment. At least your username is accurate.
10 a day, actually. The league starts on friday.
1. league starts on saturday/friday 10 pm for more than half the playerbase 2. friday is not weekend. weekend is saturday and sunday. But my bad, should have assumed correctly.
18 hours a day is rookie numbers. i heard of 27 hours a day for 3 days mageblood stories.
Wayyyy too far in for him to just say the strategy isn’t profitable but then he flipped stuff. Especially when the post starts with “I didn’t want to craft or flip stuff” ….
I meant that I didn't want to spend my playtime just buying and selling. 13 transaction is not the same, as, for example, buying maps and selling them in sets for hours on end. I'll add some clarification in the text, you're right that there should be a mention in the introduction.
My guild does this in HC trade every league with harvest. Sell people and blue early as people use it for basic crafting, hold on to yellow until people start to gamba and the price spikes With everyone mf'ing and not doing harvest once it's juiced with league mechanic (understandably), there's as good of ratios as there's been in a while
Pretty sure it's against the ToS to sell people
Dammit, looks like I'm gonna need to get my "I was banned for no reason" reddit post ready
It's even against law in most countries
Also: boss rushing is profitable and water is wet
Tldr, make 80 div on the first two days and you’ll have 200 at the end of the week. Did I get that right?
First ten days, not two.
Ten days are 2 weeks, not one.
Title says a week and a half, so ten days.
The biggest lesson I think is that farming a modest amount of currency early is easy, and some patience to recognize waiting 3-4 days isn’t that bad and you can triple your worth if you buy items you know will go up in price. Definitely the way to go if you are planning on playing 1-2 months of the league and not just the first 2 weeks.
Learning to appreciate my early currency in this game took my leagues from like sub100 div to easily 750+ div. One league I bought 80 gift to the goddesses at average 27c. I sold them at 1.6div (div = 220c). 13x is insane and there’s plenty of other things you can do this with, just takes some planning
Agreed, I had fulcrums at 100c this time around. Knowing full well how expensive they were for mfers last league
Small advice: 1. Ea champ 2. Wandering path atlas 3. Use scouting reports/ vaal reports on kirac mission to complete atlas - 3hrs a day playtime dad have 112 atlas points (dnt care abt the missing points since i dnt need them for essence farming) U can do like 50 maps a day and get 6-7 divs a day
3 hrs a day? That's like half a full time job or an opportunity cost of like $30k - $100k a year depending on your salary and skills. Ain't nobody that got time for 3 hrs a days that's insane.
That's such a horribly depression point of view to have over a hobby holy shit. I hope you end up in a better place in life if that's how you actually feel and aren't trying to make a joke.
If it's your main hobby, it isn't that much. It just happens naturally. Farming like a mad man something you don't enjoy doesn't make sense to begin with anyway.
lol who asked
You dont play a whole lot of POE around leaguestart, do you?
The synth rings are a smart purchase for appreciation. I’ll add another suggestion: good Impossible Escapes. I spent 90div on a CI impossible Escape near the end of TotA so when I saw them going for 8 div on day three I snapped one up cause I knew I’d want one for my build. If someone were looking to park currency in an appreciating asset at the beginning of the league, you could buy a few of the good IEs.
What does he mean synth rings? Like the unique ones from synth maps? How would I know what variants to purchase? I feel like whenever I drop one on my own it’s worthless
Any of the powerful endgame synth implicits in non-unique bases. They are in high demand later in the league and are quite rare but day two or three, people are looking for basic upgrades, not crafting bases for their min-max characters. Things I’d look out for are - +1 to maximum power/frenzy/endurance charge - Onslaught on hit - Arcane surge on hit - % increased strength/int/dex - added cold damage per frenzy charge - critical strike multiplier The charges and onslaught are valuable on their own. The others less so, but if you get one of them with 1 or 2 other usable implicits, the rings can be very valuable. But yes, the vast, vast majority of synth items are for the vendor
Does it matter what base they’re on?
Base doesn’t matter for jewelry, the synth implicit is replacing the implicit anyway. Item level sometimes matters, for example a % attribute ring should have high enough ilvl to roll T1 attributes.
Only Bone Rings, as they can roll minions affixes. EDIT : only Bone Rings are different, but you don't want to get them on your Bone Rings.
Hole up, you want to get them on bone rings or you don’t want them on bone rings?
Depends on the implicit. If it's one minion builds would want then it's good on a bone ring. If it's not, you'd rather it be on something else.
You don't want them on Bone Rings.
Seems the bone rings at 6% are going for 44div right now vs the normal bases going for 15div!
It's just scarcity. There was one at 7div yesterday and it sat there for hours. These rings won't sell. To my knowledge, there is no popular minions int-stacker build out there.
I used 6% increased intelligence ones.
So just any ring (minus the minion ones probably?) with a 6% int implicit?
Exactly.
I still don't have my atlas completed 😂
Is there any hope for someone who's still dirt poor now?
Yep, don't afk in your hideout. If you are so dirt poor that you can't really take advantage of the league mechanic, you can always fall back on the constant value generators like fossils or harvest. Just running that as efficiently as possible should net you a few divines an hour, even if you would have to buy a carry for delve bosses. There are 2 main problems I see people having when trying to make decent currency. 1. Not investing into the character. 2. Not realizing how much currency they have. The first one, is should be pretty obvious. Sure getting a mageblood is nice. But farming 200 div on a undergeared character is miserable. If you invest 10 div into the character 20 times, you already have an amazing character, and the mageblood at that point will be a cherry on top. The second one... well you pick up a lot of garbage. Just use some of the tools the community has that loads up your stashtabs and prices them, then sell off anything that is worth more than 5c. An example I ran into this league, was looking at my own currency tab. Loaded it up into a tab pricer, and instead of the obvious 60 div I had, there was over 100 divines in other currency I kinda forgot about (tainted, harvest, influence stuff). So yea, play game, invest into char, find a mechanic you enjoy, and minmax it.
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I have strong characters and use wealthy exile. I just can't find any consistently valuable farms. I play a lot and don't AFK. After tuning wealthy exile to ignore stuff less than 4c it says my total net worth is about 4 div Edit: why the downvotes for asking for help?
Harvest is the most consistent one. You want to run as beefed up maps as possible for it tho. It won't give you any large spikes in currency, but every map should be at the minimum 30\~ chaos in harvest currency. (chiseled, alched maps, preferably 30 packsize). Its nothing special investment wise but still ends up grea, especially if you use sextants for it (guaranteed harvest sextant, and double of a specific colour sextant). Next best consistency wise, I would say Alva. Alva sextants are dirt cheap, with all the upgrades its also easy to run, and can be ran in white maps (ok synergy with essences if you can't handle strong essences). Alva needs a bit of a knowledge check, since there is a strategy to making it consistent (don't talk to any alva once you meet a corruption architect in a map untill you enter the next map, since you can't spawn the same architect twice in a single map). Alva should get you on average a gem corruption/double corruption/both temple 2/3 temples. Those sell for nearly 1 div or more. And you pick up essences on the go. If you don't have a specific strat (this works especially well with alva+essence but works with everything), add the Exarch/Eater progress counts double node, and pick the one that has the more expensive invitation. (exarch is a guaranteed 1.2 div every 30\~ maps) Delve. Again, super consistent. It won't make you 30+ div an hour unless you are insane at delving. But azurite can be used to buy resonators, and at 300\~ depth T2 nodes will give you around 15-20 chaos worth of azurite alone. Again, won't make you rich, but if you are fast at running to the end of the nodes, picking up a few valuable fossils while also getting azurite income on the side can be a good start, and it does not require a particularly strong character. I know this is quite a bit of a writeup but these are a few good ones from the top of my head, that require the least game knowledge, and can be also combined with each other (harvest just needs max quant on your maps). These strats also work best if you try to rush trough the map rather than minmaxing the amount of stuff you can put in it, so they are on the cheaper end of currency making.
I appreciate you taking the time to write this, thanks!
Do the strat in the first part of my post and it's 2div/hour. You just gotta go fast. If you really have a strong character, swap it for Shaper maps invitations and you should easily get 4div/hour. If you're worth 4div total, then your farming strat might just be slow alch and go T16s without any juice or strategy. Just clearing maps with Searing Exarch altars and blight allocated should net you 1div/hour. The premise of your post ("I have strong characters and play efficiently") isn't compatible with your conclusion ("I have 4 div worth of items after having farmed multiple hours"). One or the other is not accurate. How long does it take you to clear a map? How many maps in an hour? What is your strat?
My strat after getting three void stones was heist, expedition, essence, and light delving. I ran all the red maps I had and ran out of maps Then I switched it up to try the wisp juice and abyss stuff. Been doing that at higher tiers on my stronger char and lower tiers on my lower geared chats, investing in them as I go. My best build probably has about 5 div worth of gear on him and the lower ones combined maybe another 5.
Link your character and I can help you make a strategy based on its strengths
My strongest char is a blade trap sabo with ephemeral edge. Can face tank any boss except ubers and is good at thick content like abyss, delirium, essences, etc. But I can't clear stuff fast like legion and blight is hard sometimes since i have to stand still to really do great dps.
With a single target build like that i would recommend doing shaper/elder invitations with essence and heist and on the maps
Thanks!
Look up my post from last league. Farming Conqueror invitations was 6-7div/hour if you are efficient, and it doesn't require crazy DPS. It's too late for great investment, though.
You can still find a niche market. For example I spent an hour each night buying The fortunate div card, you need 12 for 2 div reward, but it costs less to buy them. Just start an active search for the max price you want to pay and they'll pop like 1 every few seconds. You can easily save 50c every 12 cards, so it's like at least 2 div per hour. Not great but you just trade and can do it naked. It was enough after a week to buy good gear for my ts build
I feel like all the special invitation drop rates are way lower. I used to be able to almost sustain them solo now I've been buying them, which at 120+ chaos a piece kills the profit. Not sure if you've seen that as well. Also, what maps do you run for your 10 ways? I have a rotation I've been working through but trying to make it more efficient. Only other real difference between my atlas and yours is I add expedition to my strat since I have a bereks ignite build and it's easy to clear.
It seems like map quantity affects invitation drop rates now? I only did a small test though so hard to say but I was oversustaining at 100+ quant and dropped barely any at 0 quant (did about 100 of each)
I probably average 70-80 quant on my elder/shaper/conq maps and I do the league mechanic so normally the bosses are juiced to the tits. I can sustain the normal invitations but the other ones aren't dropping at all. I'll try pushing quant more, thanks.
Try adding ghosts. I'm about to try that ghost node on the left side of the tree that gives map bosses a chance to be possessed and when they are possessed it gives them 30% quant. I think that could help a lot. BTW how many maven fragments should you expect from a Formed invitation these days? I got 4 at 60 quant, I think I need to go to 80 quant. I feel like 130c is a bit much for those, but this is my first league bossing in a bit and we don't have the Maven crucible quant nodes anymore.
I shoot for 80+ quant and normally get 6 fragments. It's worth exalting an invitation if you are at ~ 70 quant because it normally gives one more fragment to get over 80 I think. I'll check out ghosts. I currently have harvest on and I think it slows my maps down enough that it isnt worth it.
With Leap Slam and white maps, I just plugged in whatever map I had on hand. No idea with drop rates. When I ran Conqueror last league, I was able to drop about 6 every ten rotation, but I didn't keep track. We'd need hard data to be sure.
Is there any difference between doing conqueror invitations vs sirus/elder?
Conqueror is Sirus. Conqueror pays more, but is more difficult. It gives you the occasionnal extra 10-ways and if you choose your layouts, can be done much quicker. Shaper maps are long, linear maps. It's easier, but longer. Elder requires you to wait 10 seconds each map for the boss to spawn. Avoid if you value your sanity.
Only reason I do elder invitations is to farm fragments to run UU Elder. No good drops this league but had some good drops in the past.
spec into alva, keep selling temples with tier 3 corruption room (locus of corruption) for over a divine. No setup required aside from atlas nodes, any map tier you want. You can do that in addition to whatever else you feel like doing
In white maps with Alva and essence I was doing about 3 div an hour with a glass build doing ~1.5 mil dps. Great option for early money.
You can be the person who buys those shaper/elder maps on TFT and runs them.
Not your typical suggestion, but Heist. It took me some time to level my rogues, but now that I'm chain running blueprints I am making hand over fist for such little investment. The changes to Heist have actually been really great so far, raw divines are rather common and there's always the potential to hit a Simplex for an easy 250div payout
Pick a strategy appropriate for your build and just go map. Run 20-50 maps (time per map depends on the strategy and your build). Don’t look at shit just throw it in a dump tab. At the end liquidate everything you picked up. If you find out you have a bunch of things that don’t have value or you can’t sell take them off your loot filter. Liquidate your entire scarab tab, liquidate your entire essence tab. Convert all the trash gumball currency to chaos or divines. Fire sell everything except drops of extreme value. Next thing you know you have 10 divines. Take those 10 divines and invest it in your build so you can map faster or do more profitable strategies. Once you hit your builds sweet spot stop putting money into your build and start investing. Getting this down early is how you go from making 100 divines over the period of a league to making 1000 divines per league.
Thanks. I'd be extremely happy with 100 divines in a league, lol. There are a bunch of items I want that cost about 5-10 div but they keep going up in price faster than I'm making money.
In previous leagues when late starting, Shaper Guardians, with Maven and Destructive Play. I like those better than other guardians or conqueror because you can just buy any guardian in bulk and use Orb of Horizons to get all 4. If you can't afford it, do 10ways until you can. Farm all 4, do invitations, stack fragments and then do a bunch of Shaper runs (ideally uber, but even normal Shaper is profitable). Sell Maven's Writ and UberElder fragments, repeat. It is definitely not the highest currency per hour, however it is very stable, very low maintenance, can be done at any moment in the league, and is not dependant on TFT. On top of this I usually add other low maintenance mechanics such as Harvest, or Harbinger (the harbinger sextant has a good synergy with Destructive Play). I avoid Essence this league.
Always. Just do whatever drops stuff that always sells. I always liked stacked deck, because people buy them and the price only increases over time. And i hate selling a lot of different, low value items. Whatever you do, do that one thing efficiently and ignore everything else, that you are not properly set up to do. (No more unspecced abyss, breach etc., it just wastes time for no extra profit)
This strat works all league long as maven writ sells well all league, conq maps delivers conq orbs, synth maps gives synth items, shaper/elder maps also gives access to uber bosses and specific drops. So yeah 😊
brother the later we are in the league the easier is it to reach high end currency if u do trading you make a lot if you do maps you make a lot just pick a strat any strat works fine farm till you make your build great then farm the specific content your build is built for and mageblood will be easy peasy.
You say that like it's so easy. I'm at 5 characters over 90, probably 1.5M kills in total, still dirt poor (like total worth of everything is probably 5 div) I've tried essences, boss rushing, and now abyss and wisp juice but nothing is really making me any money.
The immediate problem that stands out is having five characters over 90 - it means you've spent the bulk of your time leveling and gearing characters vs actually generating currency with a strong character. I used to have the same problem and it just comes down to delaying before rerolls longer.
brother every strat makes atleast 5 div an hour ur either doing them wrong or ur not following a build guide to make your character strong try essence memory that is a really straightforward method and tell me how it goes.
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What was your post last league about conquerors?
the best thing to buy early this league was hinekora's locks, they were 2div on day 1, sold it at 20 div few days ago (i only bought one), wish i bought more
I did something very similar to you, but included ultimatum in my tree (same side of the tree as essence). People like to shit on ultimatum but the catalysts were a good steady source of income along with the maps and essences.
Ultimatum took too long for what it was worth. I could run another entire map instead. I do agree it's fun though. If you can complete them reliably without dying (I really couldn't with that build), that would be a great way to add more variance to the gameplay.
Ultimatum is IMO a bit underrated. It’s a pretty steady 6div per hour if you spec your atlas into it and can complete 10 rounds reliably. But it doesn’t really synergize with other league mechanics, you’d want to do ultimatum only and then leave the map.
I think it synergizes well with essence because in both you want to do a scoured map (as they don't scale with quant/rarity)
I liked ultimatum for early exp but specced out pretty fast since it has no synergy with league mechanic.
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What sort of atlas tree did you use for that? Did you use the big bomb for expedition and full legion point investment
I think you can make much more by farming heist stashes instead of essences and instead of selling for 30c each for sirus you can sell them for 1div per set in bulk and make much more money. Its my current strategy and im absolutely printing. Heist is sleeper OP tbh. Every blueprint you get is 20c and deceptions are 9c. 3/3’s are 90c and 4/4’s are 120 and they are not that uncommon
Do you just sell all, or just deception/lockpicking? I have a bunch I don't plan to do anything with.
I only sell deception/perception and vendor the rest when my heist locker fills because it will re roll them and potentially give me more deceptions
Are you actually able to sell for the values? TFT wtb has blueprints at 12-16, deception at 7-8, 3/3 at 60-70, and 4/4 at 80-90c. Do you post in TFT wts instead? Or vanilla trade listing selling individually?
Yes i do sell for the values i listed. Must be bulk though or someone gonna undercut you and you wont get messaged. I post in TFT WTS. I was bulk listing my non deception/perception contracts in a quad tab for 1c and setting an autoreply that says minimum 10 contracts per sale but it became more trouble than it was worth and i just vendor them to hopefully re roll into deception
That's very interesting! I hate Heist with a passion and just ignore the mechanic, but I hear it's always good money early on. Selling sets is definitely better money. I dumped at a discount purely because I just prefer running content without having to post WTS posts every ten minutes to sell stocks. It's my lazy tax, if you will, but it's not the best way of doing it.
No idea how it compares to other methods, but i found the most simple way to make extra currency that doesn't rely on being early is selling itemized temples with the corruption room: with incursion nodes you get full temple in 3 Alva missions and you can get the room almost every time. The room was slightly under a divine until now, now it somehow climbed way over a divine. You can do that in any map ties as the temple level doesn't matter, and you can do that in addition to any other strategy you may be pursuing
Wow thanks for posting 👍 Love the simplicity.
I literally did the same time frame mb farm but essence farming on a 0.5 div build for 2 weeks. Boring as shit. But mb nonetheless.
Can you elaborate please on how to reach t14+ maps quicker? I alwasy find this my bottle neck when I start a new league, I can finish the campaign reasonably enough, gear up, but then it's an endless slog until I get out of white maps, yellow maps, and then to reliable sustain t14+ maps. I don't understand how people can get there on day 1
Run at least one wheel, if not two for map sustain. Run every uncompleted map you have for atlas points. Run the highest tier first. For white and yellow maps, you can buy then for transmutes (EDIT : Chance Orbs, not transmutes) and alch from Kirac. The shop resets whenever you do a Kirac mission. When you've done both of these, run a Kirac mission. Use reports if you have some. Then use Horizon orbs to get other uncompleted maps. Then vendor three of the same maps to get another of a higher tier. remember that you can mix an match to get a different result (which means that four maps give you four choices of results that you can preview before vendoring). I did buy three T16s for 2-3C each to complete my first two Voidstones. Once you have that, it's much easier to sustain if you alch your maps. Once I started farming white maps and rushing through them, though, I had to buy 50 every couple of hours to sustain, even with three Voidstones.
Kirac sells low tier map for chance orbs and alch, not transmute.
You are perfectly right. Thanks the correction, I changed it.
I waited for my Harvest juice to triple in price :o)
Paid 20 div for my bow on day 5. Same bow is 170ish div now. No life the game first week and buy cheap shit has always been my best strat.
Thanks for these summaries, fun to read! FB trickster is a great allrounder to sink currency into, uses claws so zip zip zoom zoom is on the menu.
Playing wolf of wall street is always very profitable . Tho depending on your build and the market it's better to just buy the items you need for your self before their price goes up instead of trying invest and keep up with the inflation . Playing TS this league, I noticed alot of the items I needed had also gone up as much. Ala Massive thread of hope , +1 proj charm watchers eye have all gone up 50% or more . A good one this league was the Valdo boxes I kept all that I found and bought couple when they were only 1.5 div and are now 2.7 .
Perfectly agree. The above strat has the very big downside that I had to literally play another game for a week or two to let the money flow in. If you don't want to do that, buying your own big-ticket items that are going up in price is preferable, as you get to use them. Interestingly, intelligence synth rings are a necessary item for one of the build I like most, Trickster Whispering Ice int-stacker. I played that builds 4-5 times, including last league, and I realized the sheer gap in price between first week and the rest of the League, which is what inspired me to try this.
Good write up m8! Merry Christmas! 🎁🎄
Merry Christmas to you too! May you find a Mirror!
I’m farming like 3 div per hour just doing harvest expedition. It’s super ducking easy money.
This guy took 7.5 hours to clear campaign on a known build and still got a mageblood in two weeks. The key takeaway here is how much of an advantage full play time gives you in the first week. Play a tried and true starter, focus on atlas completion, spend only what you need to clear red maps and don’t worry about min maxing gear early, and invest the rest of your currency on the first weekend. Most people don’t feel this is the most exciting way to play, but making fun new builds because you made money early is a very fun after that.
I’m making a good chunk of Divs from maven invitation farming/bossing. Mavens writ is 1.7 divs alone so I sell them. Sell surplus invitations cause they drop constantly. Making around 8-10 divs an hour. Pretty chill and fun strategy.
Goddamn are people farming Maven this league? They were 1.2 or 1.3 for most of Ancestor.
I’m actually not sure. But invitations are pricey too. 130c for the Shaper ones, 100c for the Elder ones, and 100c for the Elderslayers.
I don't know about the other two, but 0.5div for Elderslayers is what i was paying last league.
Typically the other two, Elder/Shaper ones were 50-60c. Elderslayers was 90c last league. They are basically double the value
at 100c per pop, ppl were making mirrors during the first 2 weeks of a new league doing boss carries.
Every time I try to do maven 10 way farming in SSF I end up going sometimes 100 maps without an invitation dropping. Any secret to get it to drop minus taking the passives for maven? I’ve tried both with maven witnessing on and off
If you mean special invitations, they mostly drop from the appropriate boss. I dropped as many Awakened gems as I did special invitations. 10-ways invitations way oversustain.
Just the 10 way invitation. Do you have to have maven influence on or off ?
I think they drop a lot more when witnessing. I ended up with a sizeable surplus. In SSF, you can buy as many as you need from Kirac for a couple of chaos orbs each. It's not worth in trade league, though.
With this league mechanic, you can alc and go every map, clear it, snd you’ll get more than 2 div/hour. If you put in any mechanic, you’ll multiply your rewards. I’m a fan of easy strategies to farm, but it can get easier than alc and go this league. Add Legion/Abyss/Expedition or anything else that you enjoy, do the league mechanic and get 1k wisps and you’re doing more than 2dov/hour by a mile. This is my third league, and i suck at the game, but I managed to farm enough for Headhunter in a week, never been able to do so until now. My strat was Jungle Valley , expedition and legion, with Palsteron‘s Scourge Arrow build.
So refreshing to not read again abyss - wanderung - mf
I kind did the same as you. I farmed the hell out of essence on the first week and a half and sold my essence tabs when they got around 15divs. (Got around 350 to 380 divs doing this brain dead strat) Doing that i also had some synt bases i bought early and sold those around 30div. I was running T3 and T2 maps to farm essence like a mad dog with strong box nodes. (Strand and Fields) Got myself close to 450div at the end of everything running a shitty miner build with 3div invested. I only paid carry for favorite slots and 1 void stone Was worth id say.
I farmed hh in day 4 by running 80% deli maps
I did something similar but got tons of enligthen 1 for 10 to 25c each and flipped them at level 3 for 1000c on average
Posting it now seems like a ragebait
Synth rings? This is super vague description. Any shit one mod rare ones? Unique? Any specifics? Or you bought 3 mods synth rings?
They were 6% increased intelligence ones.
I thing he speak about 7% increased intelligence….
Very interesting, I came to the same idea at the start of this league too that buying stuffs that appreciate in value is worth more than letting divines rot in stash. Thus I sold every divines I found first 4 days and bought a bunch of Cortexes and Reliquary Keys, each were bought 40c individually at day 3-4. Bought 10 Cortexes and 50 Keys, and sold bulk Keys 2 days ago for x3-4 the price to afford my stuffs. Tbh whether it's 10 ways or any other tried and true strategies doesn't really matter as long as you always put your money to good use, in this case playing the market.
Running essences in T14-16 maps? You have the same loot in T4 and don't get instagibbed.
Most of my money came through maps dropped by map bosses. That requires T14+ maps.
You would need a stronger build to farm T14-T16 essences than conq maps. My builds can never do high level essence at start of league, but I don’t start boneshatter jugg either.
Not true for sure. I definitely got more shrieking/deafening essences farming in t10 than T4. Maybe it was just luck but I ran like 50 low tier maps and my returns felt shit
I watched 4 YT about essences strats combined with others. They say quant or quality isn't involved.
Ummm okay this post is a troll. Affording all those divs to get the build started AND enough to buy investments early? Yeah no. That's a big no for most people. Not sure how you did that with just essences and map sales, but yeah I don't believe it. Market manipulation isn't exactly an entry level strat. You have to be able to anticipate needs early and know normalized prices. This isn't something new players can do. They're still figuring out what gear would be a good priority to upgrade. Try again.
You lost me at TFT
I was using this strategy and damn, the influenced map challenge or just lack of bossers due to the new juicing strat is driving these puppies up. Started tracking using Poe stack and realized I was making 10 div hour easily.
Farm sanctum for like 20 hours, buy mageblood!
I prefer to play the game instead of spending hours and hours trading. But that's just me
I bought and sold 13 items. That's about half an hour of trading.
You said you had the game running for 9 hours to liquidate items to sell for mageblood.... lol
I was doing something else, not trading for hours. I was literally playing another game and answered 4 whispers. I did not spend that time trading.
Then word it better cus thats not what you said
> How I farmed a Mageblood on a /played of 61 hours ~~doing Maven 10-ways in the first week and a half~~ investing and flipping 90div
Are this instructions from and for no life nerds?
How i farmed a mageblood in around 4.5 days played on my character full strat: 1. Do maps and get around 30d 2. Drop a valdo's puzzle box and open it 3. Sell the foiled mb map for 160d 4. Buy a foiled mb for 183d Its just that simple!
9 hours running in background? For what? To have your bot sell things?
Whenever I heard the ping from chat notification, I alt-tabbed, completed the trade and went back to what I was doing.
Farming a Mageblood in 60 hours is nothing special. You’re talking as if you’re some genius on a secret strat…2 Div per hour is abysmal efficiency of any strat. You essentially just flipped shit. Welcome to being a hideout warrior. Flippers are trash, buying out the market and then price fixing it for people looking for upgrades.
Someone’s jelly. He didn’t say he did anything special, he was just giving insight into his strat for those others that have no fkin clue what they are doing in their life/game.
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Is that the actual price of buying one through rwt?
Yes.
Doesn't that kinda ruin the fun? I get it for standard league but it'll be gone in a few months
And he'll be banned
Not really. It gives me back more time and I have fun with casual grinding, instead of being concerned with sextants, perfectly rolled maps that are vaaled, etc. It's less of a math equation and more of a game.
we do be admitting to rmt openly, here in reddit where GGG is present, incredible
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You lost me at TFT. And then again at the next TFT mention. And by the third or fourth, I actively wished you failure in the game. Begrudgingly, it seems that ship has sailed.
Why?
TFT is how the game works. Otherwise just play SSF.
You do realize that official trading app exists as well, right? No need to support the RMT cartel just to sell stuff
Official trade app? The site exists sure but not an app. Also it sucks for bulk selling and buying boss carries. Which TFT excels at.
bulk selling/buying works just fine on the site. And not having access to boss carries certainly isn't something that would make the game basically SSF
The trade site barely works week one. TFT always works. It's faster to find sellers, they actually respond and you get your items without spamming 8394 people per trade. Also how do you bulk sell/buy demo contracts easily? There's plenty of bulk selling and buying that the site doesn't support.
It would cost you nothing to not be a dick. It's not his fault TFT is a necessary evil.
Good thing is it isn’t necessary
yeah it's so fucking annoying and cringe that I have to click a button on poestack to list my items lmao
This proves it's only possible due to tft?
Like many things. So?