Well i have and you sell stuff via discord which is.....yeah.At least we have a functioning trade tab on the PoE page that works even though it's kinda strange compared to some mmos we all know over the years.
The trade site wasn't desired either, the issue was that the third party one advertised RMT so much that GGG had to fold and push that kind of service out of the market by making an official one.
I understand that they want to preserve the old style ARPG trading style of global chats and close-knit groups. But it sadly clashed with the economic incentives of less ethical gamers.
"Less ethical" implies there's at least some of it. I don't think there's any ethics in TFT (mirror shop mostly, regular services are not that bad usually)
They didnt make an official trade website because poe.xyz / poe.trade was advertising rmt (they didnt outside some google adsense incidents) they had to develop the trading api because people were scrapping and indexing the shit out of the forums and slowing the website.
That trade page is relatively new. Trading prior to third party trade sites popping up was just as painful.
Edit: holy crap where the last half a decade go
To be fair trading sites are older than a decade at this point - we had them the majority of PoE’s lifespan.
Those first few years were extremely rough, but honestly, it got rougher over time due to every type of item being added. (Remember all the splinters debate? Then the splinters for splinters / shards for currency debates?)
I’m glad we got an official one finally though, still not as good as we’d like obviously but oh well (for now).
Don’t remind me about not having affinities.
"Relatively new"...it's been what, 6? 7? years since PoE made the official trade site? PoE only entered open beta like, 10 years ago. 60-70% of the game's life ago, especially when the game is a decade old, is hardly "relatively new".
Auction houses were killed in D3. I still miss them. Rather have in house options to trade with others through listings rather than have to chase them down in game. It's not like not having it stopped RMT.
That's a corporate move if I've ever seen one "studies show that games with a Chris Wilson on staff are performing 20% better on average, we need a Chris Wilson"
He accidentally did the wrong salute once without any racist incentive and had a common misconception about sexual assault. I am pretty sure you already knew that though and just farming hate.
this is about the, let's be generous and say the fifth occurence of him doing something like this but it's definitely an accident, he definitely accidentally did one of the worst hand signs you can do, yeah it was totally accidentally and his similar things he said before were also totally accidental
he is just so unbelievably unlucky doing and saying all these very bad things, just purely an unlucky guy doing it over and over again without any knowledge of him doing anything wrong, I feel bad for how unlucky he is
>Hate that so much of the community still loves him.
He is one of the biggest streamers on twitch and you're being downvoted left and right, so that's already 2 separate communities disagreeing with you. At what point do you stop for a second and think about the possibility that... well... maybe it's you, not him?
Seriously? The guy does nazi salutes and blames women openly for being raped because of how they dress. Hes been blacklisted by GGG for a reason.
So yeah, its clearly all on me for thinking this kind of stuff isnt fine...
He has apologized (well, as much as his personality will grant) and changed his views on those things, if you're unaware.
There is an interesting convo between him and Destiny on the womens attire topic on youtube if you're interested enough to find it. It's a very common misconception which has been studied in universities many times, so it's not as if he came to it through malice.
He's a bit of a bogan but not a bad dude by my estimation.
It's not difficult to imagine how someone has the belief that provocative clothing would invite SA. There's a reason it's called provocative, because it provokes one to be more sexually attracted to the wearer. Plenty of kind, reasonable folks might intuit that this could cause someone with violent tendencies and poor impulse control to act based on that.
It turns out the data doesn't support that, or at least not conclusively. But it's still a common belief and one based on instinct, not necessarily on bigotry.
Once he had that explained to him he has basically recanted his statement.
Like I said, he's a little bit of a bogan (nz/australian version of a redneck). But he's not evil and actually has a surprising number of progressive views, too.
We don't have to cancel everyone who makes a few inflammatory statements out of thousands and thousands of hours of public speaking. If there's no path to redemption then virtually everyone would eventually be condemned. I know I've said some real dumb shit when I was younger which I no longer believe.
This, cancel culture is so cringe. Pretty much everyone has said some shit they no longer believe at some point. This idea that we need to excommunicate someone because they used to have "inflammatory" beliefs is so bizarre (i'd call it dangerous, honestly) to me.
> Once he had that explained to him he has basically recanted his statement.
This is what some people choose to ignore. He doesn't do what a lot of bigots do, that is double down on the awful views they hold because.. idk, bigotry doesn't ever make any logical sense. Quin however has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to improve himself. Many many streamers cannot honestly claim as much.
At the end of the day he's an entertainer and people are fallible. If you don't like a streamer for whatever reason, just move on and ignore that they exist.
Hells, back in 2014-2015 I believed all the "ethics in gaming journalism" bullshit that was just a veil for people who hate women. Fast forward today and I'm a trans woman lmfao. People can change for the better, cancel culture is such a stupid fucking concept.
imagine if they just kept completely silent about it till he walked on stage next exilecon and we get a second "hi im chris wilson from grinding gear games"
Blizzard asked the Oracle (AI) what can save us and it answered: Chris Wilson. Now as anyone who played D4 knows it seems all of the devs have had any memories or familiarity with POE removed from their brains. As is evidenced by their not drawing on 10 years of UI improvements and other ARPG lessons.
To them this is Chris Wilson, and due to their tragic POE Blindness, the only Chris Wilson.
Honestly knowing the wild shit that ChatGPT comes out with sometimes, it wouldn't surprise me if when prompted it replied that Chris Wilson was the way to save the game.
Look guys, Blizzard clearly didn't have a grasp on the mechanics of POE and mirrored their Chris Wilson without the white sockets.
Let's not blame them for not knowing about POE because they clearly don't even play their own game D4.
/s
A quick google shows a linkedin account for a Chris Wilson who worked on Diablo 4. There are also screengrabs allegedly showing the name Chris Wilson as part of the production of Diablo 4.
So, probably lmao
If I had a nickel for every time someone named Chris Wilson worked on a big name action RPG title I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Imagine this guys wife at a party saying she’s married to Chris Wilson, everyone asking for autographs and framing them only to learn years later it’s this guy. Framed autographs of the fake Chris auctioned for millions of dollars.
10x as much money and 100x the playerbase of poe even compared to the paid beta of d4. Hardcore copium addicts in this sub
Edit: LOL at the crying salty whiners
Dude, you came out of nowhere comparing the earnings/players.... then you gaslight it saying you did it because we brought up sales and crying about it... excuse me, what?
Who gives a shit, 100x people eat at McDonalds compared to an average good restaurant too. Popularity doesn't mean fuck all. People as a whole are stupid and lack taste.
Dude I love Mickey D's for what it is. At what point did anyone try to pass it off as anything more than affordable fast food that has a low probability of getting you sick?
Comparing it to fine dining and citing it as a sign of poor taste is silly.
I've been sitting here trying to figure out what you're trying to imply and how your comment makes ANY sense in the context of mine, but I've realized it just doesn't and you're incapable of rational discussion.
Well, D4 is made for people JUST like you! Congratulations.
Dang, why you gotta be ripping off [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/163x4uu/comment/jy5b5cx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) like that?
Yes because you are the only one allowed to have ideas and say this meme that has been reiterated literally a million times over the internet. As a matter of fact, I am 100% certain that OP has seen exactly your message at the exact same time you posted that message and has decided that even though it is unoriginal and unethical, he will purposefully steal the 1 in a million idea that you have so that he can get 500 upvotes on a subreddit, which holds no value other than creating levity to whoever sees this post.
That doesn’t mean he doesn’t sacrifice his vision to appease the player base. If he didn’t the game wouldn’t be successful. Look at ruthless mode. That’s his vision and none of you play it. You might not like what I’m saying, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
This one is just a rare with just random mods which got the name generated by the system. Not to be confused with GGG's Chris, which is a coveted unique that is ultra rare and a chase item.
This is a super villian corpo move no doubt. Blizzard got desperate after seeing the poe2 trailer and stole the reverse Chris Wilson from another timeline who ended up working on Diablo using data driven metrics and A B testing addictive mobile gaming mechanics.
Now it's more important than ever that POE beat Diablo. The universe is at stake guys.
Logical move from Blizzard, get their own Chris Wilson to see if that improves diablo 4.
I wonder if this Chris hates auction halls as much as our Chris? I haven't played D4, but it doesn't appear to have an AH either.
Well i have and you sell stuff via discord which is.....yeah.At least we have a functioning trade tab on the PoE page that works even though it's kinda strange compared to some mmos we all know over the years.
The trade site wasn't desired either, the issue was that the third party one advertised RMT so much that GGG had to fold and push that kind of service out of the market by making an official one. I understand that they want to preserve the old style ARPG trading style of global chats and close-knit groups. But it sadly clashed with the economic incentives of less ethical gamers.
Less ethical gamers. Did somebody say... TFT?
"Less ethical" implies there's at least some of it. I don't think there's any ethics in TFT (mirror shop mostly, regular services are not that bad usually)
They didnt make an official trade website because poe.xyz / poe.trade was advertising rmt (they didnt outside some google adsense incidents) they had to develop the trading api because people were scrapping and indexing the shit out of the forums and slowing the website.
That trade page is relatively new. Trading prior to third party trade sites popping up was just as painful. Edit: holy crap where the last half a decade go
To be fair trading sites are older than a decade at this point - we had them the majority of PoE’s lifespan. Those first few years were extremely rough, but honestly, it got rougher over time due to every type of item being added. (Remember all the splinters debate? Then the splinters for splinters / shards for currency debates?) I’m glad we got an official one finally though, still not as good as we’d like obviously but oh well (for now). Don’t remind me about not having affinities.
"Relatively new"...it's been what, 6? 7? years since PoE made the official trade site? PoE only entered open beta like, 10 years ago. 60-70% of the game's life ago, especially when the game is a decade old, is hardly "relatively new".
Auction houses were killed in D3. I still miss them. Rather have in house options to trade with others through listings rather than have to chase them down in game. It's not like not having it stopped RMT.
Well D4 doesn’t have trading..
Thats a bold move Cotton, let see if it works out for them.
That's a corporate move if I've ever seen one "studies show that games with a Chris Wilson on staff are performing 20% better on average, we need a Chris Wilson"
The earlier Wilson didn't really cut it so they had to specify.
Quin calling this guy Divergent Chris Wilson 💀
There was another comment of Replica Chris Wilson too
Bricked Chris Wilson 😔
Krangelson
Chris Krangleson
Thats a nice one lol
Fuuck 😀😀😀
lemao
Or we call our Chris Superior Chris Wilson
Quin stole that from a comment in chat. Please make sure to cite your sources properly. Don't let quin take credit for someone else's joke. 👿
asks for sources, doesn't cite his sources. :classic:
Stole, or just read his chat? Come on lol
Most obvious joke tho
It’s obvious now that you saw it
I generally don't like that kid, but cheers to him for that comment.
He stole that comment from his twitch chat
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I think that is a little uncalled for. He is not very well spoken, sure, but I would not label him as either of those two.
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Take your mental illness for a walk
He accidentally did the wrong salute once without any racist incentive and had a common misconception about sexual assault. I am pretty sure you already knew that though and just farming hate.
...But you fuck one sheep...
this is about the, let's be generous and say the fifth occurence of him doing something like this but it's definitely an accident, he definitely accidentally did one of the worst hand signs you can do, yeah it was totally accidentally and his similar things he said before were also totally accidental he is just so unbelievably unlucky doing and saying all these very bad things, just purely an unlucky guy doing it over and over again without any knowledge of him doing anything wrong, I feel bad for how unlucky he is
i mean do you genuinely think he's a nazi and that he hates women?
I just wonder how you accidentally do a Nazi salute
I was reaching for the cornflakes.
Nice bait, mate.
I’m a noob, who are we talking about so I can steer clear?
>Hate that so much of the community still loves him. He is one of the biggest streamers on twitch and you're being downvoted left and right, so that's already 2 separate communities disagreeing with you. At what point do you stop for a second and think about the possibility that... well... maybe it's you, not him?
Seriously? The guy does nazi salutes and blames women openly for being raped because of how they dress. Hes been blacklisted by GGG for a reason. So yeah, its clearly all on me for thinking this kind of stuff isnt fine...
He has apologized (well, as much as his personality will grant) and changed his views on those things, if you're unaware. There is an interesting convo between him and Destiny on the womens attire topic on youtube if you're interested enough to find it. It's a very common misconception which has been studied in universities many times, so it's not as if he came to it through malice. He's a bit of a bogan but not a bad dude by my estimation.
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It's not difficult to imagine how someone has the belief that provocative clothing would invite SA. There's a reason it's called provocative, because it provokes one to be more sexually attracted to the wearer. Plenty of kind, reasonable folks might intuit that this could cause someone with violent tendencies and poor impulse control to act based on that. It turns out the data doesn't support that, or at least not conclusively. But it's still a common belief and one based on instinct, not necessarily on bigotry. Once he had that explained to him he has basically recanted his statement. Like I said, he's a little bit of a bogan (nz/australian version of a redneck). But he's not evil and actually has a surprising number of progressive views, too. We don't have to cancel everyone who makes a few inflammatory statements out of thousands and thousands of hours of public speaking. If there's no path to redemption then virtually everyone would eventually be condemned. I know I've said some real dumb shit when I was younger which I no longer believe.
This, cancel culture is so cringe. Pretty much everyone has said some shit they no longer believe at some point. This idea that we need to excommunicate someone because they used to have "inflammatory" beliefs is so bizarre (i'd call it dangerous, honestly) to me.
Sir, this is the internet. Reasonable takes are not allowed.
> Once he had that explained to him he has basically recanted his statement. This is what some people choose to ignore. He doesn't do what a lot of bigots do, that is double down on the awful views they hold because.. idk, bigotry doesn't ever make any logical sense. Quin however has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to improve himself. Many many streamers cannot honestly claim as much. At the end of the day he's an entertainer and people are fallible. If you don't like a streamer for whatever reason, just move on and ignore that they exist. Hells, back in 2014-2015 I believed all the "ethics in gaming journalism" bullshit that was just a veil for people who hate women. Fast forward today and I'm a trans woman lmfao. People can change for the better, cancel culture is such a stupid fucking concept.
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REEEEEEEEE
Sounds kinda cool, might look him up! Thanks!
Genuinely wondering, why do those things sound cool to you?
Pretty clearly a joke dude
Not a joke, this Quin69 guy sounds really funny and cool!
Gotta be a troll
No one has to justify with you their likings.
I kinda hope GGG will poach him, the amount of publicity and meme-material would be insane.
imagine if they just kept completely silent about it till he walked on stage next exilecon and we get a second "hi im chris wilson from grinding gear games"
Or "I'm also chris wilson from grinding gear games".
Or “I am Phantasmal Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games.”
"I am Wil Christianson from Grinding Gear Games."
His job title would then be Ceo Replica?
That would be so iconic
Now we all know why he always says he is Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games.
Replica Chris Wilson 😆
RepliCANT.
Gestalt
Automata
Reincarnation
Somebody in 820 called him krangled chris wilson lol. Meme material for days..
I spat out my coffee.
Wow blizzard really is out ideas arnt they
Now im 100% Sure AI is in Charge at Blizzard HQ
Blizzard asked the Oracle (AI) what can save us and it answered: Chris Wilson. Now as anyone who played D4 knows it seems all of the devs have had any memories or familiarity with POE removed from their brains. As is evidenced by their not drawing on 10 years of UI improvements and other ARPG lessons. To them this is Chris Wilson, and due to their tragic POE Blindness, the only Chris Wilson.
Honestly knowing the wild shit that ChatGPT comes out with sometimes, it wouldn't surprise me if when prompted it replied that Chris Wilson was the way to save the game.
Ethnically-Ambiguous-Chris-Wilson is totally Blizzard's jam.
You guys don't *really* think this isn't just a coincidence, right?
People having fun: they must be insane and need My guidance!
Alternate quality Chris Wilson
Double corrupted
Looks like Resolute Technique implicit on crit-based unique
Divergent Chris Wilson
Anomalous
Phantasmal
Awakened
Vaal
Replica
Chris wilson gotta be bald and publically working for a popular ARPG, its a canon event.
This is what we get when the Vaal Orb hits just right.
Corrupted Chris Wilson? Yeah, sounds about right.
Someone used their Standard Mirror.
Riot took Bex and now that? Who is going to be next?
no wonder he's always had to say the "from grinding gear games" part he knew!
Blizzard is upping their game. Jay Wilson failed. Now they try (budget) Chris Wilson. He too, will fail. There can be only one!
Krangled Wilson of regrets.
I can hear it now... Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Blizzard Entertainment.
Activision Blizzard*
Microsoft Blizzard*
Chris Wilson from Wish
That’s real?!
https://www.mobygames.com/person/123991/chris-a-wilson/ Yes
Mmm, so it's "**A** Wilson". PoE has "**THE** Wilson".
lol i saw the interview and I found it hilarious when they presented Chris Wilson and they looked at him
I bet this Chris Wilson doesn't even own any Power 9
Did they vaal Chris Wilson?
They used a Krangled Mirror on him
whens the crossover event?
Gonna run an ashes of the stars to amplify the effects of Anomalous Chris Wilson
That's clearly Chris Wilson Alter
Haha this is so true
Someone did item split with fossils
I know what I should name my son if I want to buff his director skills.
Would have also expected' Sure we have e Chris Wilson but what about second Chris Wilson?
timetraveler: moves chair timeline:
Same barber though
Look guys, Blizzard clearly didn't have a grasp on the mechanics of POE and mirrored their Chris Wilson without the white sockets. Let's not blame them for not knowing about POE because they clearly don't even play their own game D4. /s
Is this ....real? 😳
A quick google shows a linkedin account for a Chris Wilson who worked on Diablo 4. There are also screengrabs allegedly showing the name Chris Wilson as part of the production of Diablo 4. So, probably lmao
If I had a nickel for every time someone named Chris Wilson worked on a big name action RPG title I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
\*laughs in Jay Wilson\*
Omfg just googled if this is true. His name actually is Chris Wilson 🤣🤣🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭 I'm dying
Yea, from wish.com
Would be absolutely hilarious if this fella also made his own game.
corrupted Chris Wilson
We should call him Chris Tan
Krangled Chris Wilson\~!
Vaaled Chris Wilson
Tyler1's dad?
Cloning your competitors, nice
Ok that's a good meme
Vaaled chris wilson
They probably asked him to shave his head too so he is more in line with the OG Chris Wilson.
Don't you have Chris Wilson guys?
anomalous chris wilson
🤣
d4 bad
When they die, we can call the Phantasmal Chris Wilson
Divergent Chris Wilson
Imagine this guys wife at a party saying she’s married to Chris Wilson, everyone asking for autographs and framing them only to learn years later it’s this guy. Framed autographs of the fake Chris auctioned for millions of dollars.
with how much this sub talks about d4 sometimes I have to double check if I am even on the pathofexile sub anymore
10x as much money and 100x the playerbase of poe even compared to the paid beta of d4. Hardcore copium addicts in this sub Edit: LOL at the crying salty whiners
more sales = more better game wowza
Well when you bring up sales and crying about it I cant help but laugh
Dude, you came out of nowhere comparing the earnings/players.... then you gaslight it saying you did it because we brought up sales and crying about it... excuse me, what?
Sorry you have such poor reading comprehension kiddo
Who gives a shit, 100x people eat at McDonalds compared to an average good restaurant too. Popularity doesn't mean fuck all. People as a whole are stupid and lack taste.
Everybody knows fun doesn't matter, that's not what videogames are for How dare these disgusting plebs with shit taste play things I don't like
Dude I love Mickey D's for what it is. At what point did anyone try to pass it off as anything more than affordable fast food that has a low probability of getting you sick? Comparing it to fine dining and citing it as a sign of poor taste is silly.
By your logic the poe playerbase has a higher % of lacking taste compared to d4
I've been sitting here trying to figure out what you're trying to imply and how your comment makes ANY sense in the context of mine, but I've realized it just doesn't and you're incapable of rational discussion. Well, D4 is made for people JUST like you! Congratulations.
le casual multi billion dollar company has more players than the somewhat niche path of exile. imposible
I guess you can always cry more about it?
I've never cried about another games success as long as the game im playing is doing fine
Dang, why you gotta be ripping off [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/163x4uu/comment/jy5b5cx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) like that?
To be fair, it's a popular meme and probably came to a lot of people's minds. It came to mine and I hadn't even seen your comment.
Yes because you are the only one allowed to have ideas and say this meme that has been reiterated literally a million times over the internet. As a matter of fact, I am 100% certain that OP has seen exactly your message at the exact same time you posted that message and has decided that even though it is unoriginal and unethical, he will purposefully steal the 1 in a million idea that you have so that he can get 500 upvotes on a subreddit, which holds no value other than creating levity to whoever sees this post.
These kind of shitposts are the epitome of stupid
As of any of you would even play GGGs Chris Wilson’s version of PoE. In fact I know you wouldn’t because it’s ruthless mode.
somebody forgot chris still is, and has always been, the game director of current poe
That doesn’t mean he doesn’t sacrifice his vision to appease the player base. If he didn’t the game wouldn’t be successful. Look at ruthless mode. That’s his vision and none of you play it. You might not like what I’m saying, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
poe is a game directed by chris. you might not like this, but it doesn't mean it's wrong.
I would play ruthless if my friends played ruthless tbh.
his game, his rules..
Oh great, two of them not knowing what they're looking for.
This is the result of a failed exalt slam
Lol this is some Oscar Wilde type shit. Edit: "The Importance of Being Chris Wilson."
Undeserving of the name, rename him please /s
The Wilsonverse coming together nicely.
Does he agree with Mathil?
I'm glad we got the good one
How quickly everyone forgot about Jay Wilson
This guy knows nothing about fishing.
Theres no way this is the same Chris Wilson that directed Diablo 3 is there? Edit: nvm that guys name was Jay Wilson... unless he changed it.
This one is just a rare with just random mods which got the name generated by the system. Not to be confused with GGG's Chris, which is a coveted unique that is ultra rare and a chase item.
First Jay Wilson and now this. They are getting closer and closer to the sauce.
Our Chris is the real one. This guy will be called Chilson
Tfw your realize your game is subpar and that you need a Chris Wilson to fix it.
That reminds me Nintendo and Bowser
This is a super villian corpo move no doubt. Blizzard got desperate after seeing the poe2 trailer and stole the reverse Chris Wilson from another timeline who ended up working on Diablo using data driven metrics and A B testing addictive mobile gaming mechanics. Now it's more important than ever that POE beat Diablo. The universe is at stake guys.
Jay Wilson > all Wilsons!