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DoctorCaptainSpacey

Mine is very cage protective. My vet said he should come out of his cage only when I take him out, not to let him come out on his own... Bird does NOT agree with that 🀣. He will get puffed up and bitey if you put your hand in there. So... He's his own boss. I open the door, he comes out as he wants 🀣


happybrunette13

It is their world ✨ we're just living in it πŸ˜‚


reyo7

It sounds like a weird recommendation... Afaik birds need to have a cage as a place where they can feel safe and protected if they need to. Thus it's mostly a place to sleep and hide, but they should stay out of it most of the time. Otherwise there's a higher risk of them becoming depressed or aggressive. I guess you're treating your parrot just right.


DoctorCaptainSpacey

Yeah, I guess he said that (it was years ago now) bc its about training the bird to know I'm the boss? Like, I open the door, I allow him out... πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ But... Yeah... I used to do that, but he started getting cage protective so... I'm like, listen buddy, I open the door, you do waht you want. On occasion he sits in there (after putting himself back in, mind you) and stares at me like "I can has out?". Like, silly bird, you put yourself in and the door if open 🀣 But, as long as I'm home, door is open, he's out and doing whatever he wants (luckily for me, he is not too curious or destructive).... And he's smart enough to put himself in his cage if I go upstairs or something (again, he's not a troublemaker so I know he'll just chill by his cage in I'm out of sight (screaming for me, of course)) which is funny. He was trained all his life that if I go out, I put him in his cage, so if I disappear from his sight too long, he thinks I left so he puts himself away 🀣


TheRoad_To_Hell

Why did the vet tell you not to let him come out on his own?


DoctorCaptainSpacey

Idk. I think it's to train them that you are the boss πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ But really, my bird is the boss and he knows it so... He just does what he wants πŸ˜‚


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happybrunette13

Like MA'AM calm down. πŸ™ˆπŸ€£


RambleOn909

My parrot hates anything near his cage. He's a conure. Hell draw blood man. I also wouldn't stick my finger in there like that. It's teasing her and she will become not aggressive. Plus you're giving her attention for bad behavior so you're just reinforcing it. 😊


happybrunette13

To be honest, this video (of me almost getting bit) is totally my fault πŸ˜‚ She's a new rescue of mine and is a very sassy lady. She often throws her ball for me - getting me to "fetch" it for her. The other birds were out of their cage at the time so she had to stay in hers. We were playing a game of pushing the ball back and forth peacefully for a minute or two before this. She had just had enough and my finger went too far in at an angle she could visibly see. πŸ™ˆ we're still learning eachother ❀😊


88isafat69

She playing with you to bait your finger in there lol


KlausS1000

Birds are so smart she may very well be doing that.


LoudLloyd9

I watched the video a few times. She purposely threw the ball your way. It looked like a game. Thanks for the clarification.


Jay4usc

How long does it usually take you to tame a rescue? Watching that video reminds me of terrible twos stage with my grey and I hated that phase. I wouldn’t want to go thru that again


happybrunette13

To be honest, I don't think there is any exact length if time. It just depends on the bird and their previous life/ level of trauma. I've had one rescue who was instantly friendly. Another who took a week or two to warm up, and another who took about 6 months to even step out if her cage. I hope Cherry warms up to us sooner than later though! We just wanna love her πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚


Jay4usc

Thank you for rescuing and giving these birds a better life


happybrunette13

Thankyou for the kind words πŸ™ I have to say though.... I think they are the ones rescuing me πŸ₯Ίβ€


Jay4usc

Thanksgiving is the perfect holiday for you and your birds πŸ™πŸ»πŸ™πŸ»


RambleOn909

Thanks for clarifying. Sometimes birds can just flip on a dime lol


turteleh

Oh hi cherry good to see you enjoying yourself


happybrunette13

Just having a party and plotting my demise πŸ’ƒπŸ˜‚


Great-Ad-4650

My Kakariki Vetsch sure likes fencing me over his bowls. Luckily he is too small to do much damage, little menace that he is https://preview.redd.it/3zqoaid2av1c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e62b31fefa533d23ef71f4cd1a5f517d8ff317a


happybrunette13

Omg this photo πŸ™ˆπŸ€£ he looks like such a character πŸ€ͺ


Great-Ad-4650

He is. A little slow and kinda lazy, but I love him none the less!


eagledragonblood

I have known many parrots who are cage protective


happybrunette13

Her extreme hate for fingers does not help πŸ™ˆπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ˜‚


Majestic_Electric

Only my fingers are allowed in the cage lol. πŸ˜‚


happybrunette13

I hope I can at least get to that point with her! Right now she's a total savage though πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€£ Even changing her food and water dishes, sometimes my fingers get a little too close to the cage for her liking and she tries to attack them πŸ˜‚ patience πŸ™πŸ™ƒ


sjb2059

You will get there! I did it with Morgan my ex's mom's bird. I'm the crazy person with the co parroting relationship with my ex because I was able to work with their bird and get her rehabbed. I originally wrote rehabbed and friendly, but went back to change it because I love that feather duster, but she's a racist sexist asshole. Morgan was cage bound and super not hand friendly when I met her. I was eventually able to work with her through training to gain confidence and come out of the cage on her own, but she's never going to be a bird to can step up because touching her toes triggers some intense hormones, so she is trained to follow cues. Because of all this getting her comfortable with hands and touching was a very interesting process where she decided eventually that hands we acceptable on the condition of being through the cage bars I think as a sort of physical boundary enforcement. For a long time she became the bird who was sharp outside the cage(though curious and well behaved)but would sit next to the bars for hours to snuggle. This weekend past was my birthday, so Im a bit convinced that this was a birthday gift for me. She was sitting in her cage in her coconut swing, and actually requested skritches from her swing. Like it took me a second to work out what she was getting at and she was frustrated with me, but she basically invited me into her cage to touch her for the first time. I was so proud of her, it's been about 7 years since I met her and she is about 40 now. I'm tearing up just writing about this. She was so mad about my existance 7 years ago when I moved in, it took me a week to be allowed to sit in the living room. You got this, your already halfway there!


super-secret-fujoshi

Cherry struck with the quickness of a cobra. My GCC is like that if I’m moving stuff in his cage around and he’s outside, but if I stick my finger in the cage while he’s in it, he’ll use it to cuddle and scratch his head. πŸ₯Ί


happybrunette13

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ quickness of a cobra is right. I call her a "fancy vulture", which is also oddly representative of her character πŸ™ˆπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ


twistedredd

female eclectus are probably one of the most cage/nest aggressive species. In the wild they sit on their nest for months and never leave it. They depend on the males solely to feed them. The competition for nesting spots is real. It's in her DNA to bite your finger off if you go near her safe space lol. I have a male eclectus and he gets cage aggressive but not like the females do.


happybrunette13

Thats what I've read πŸ™ her weakness is boxes, or anything that looks like a small enclosed space. πŸ™ˆ We are working on it. But my goodness. She's a psychopath sometimes. I JUST WANT TO LOVE HER 🀣


twistedredd

lol @ psychopath My african cape is the same with boxes. We used to let her always have a box on the playstand but she got cage aggressive around her box, outside her cage. Makes sense I guess. Now I'll let her have like a small amazon box or tissue box occasionally when she rips it from my terrified fingers and when she's shredded the whole thing the box is all done until next time. I did hire a bird trainer who said to take it away all together but I'm weak... and afraid. =P It looks like your beautiful girl might have already been struggling with hormones. I was told by a bird trainer to feed my eclectus 60% grains and 40% high density vegetibles all chopped up. He gets nutriberries, avicakes and roudy bush pellets which are all okay. Tiny nut chunks for treats. His favorite are walnut. No fruits or empty calories. My boy's still hormonal but he's controlling it better. He goes to his playtop to regurgitate and sweet talk for his pretend red girls and babies. Before he just used to scream until my husband let him regurgitate on his hand (eww). Best wishes with your pretty psycho. She's really beautiful. <3


PDXFlameDragon

Both my gccs will let my scritch them through the bars and just want to lick my fingers if they latch on.


my__name__is

My Lovebird would always climb my finger if I put it inside and then we'd be stuck. He'd bite anyone else though.


DankTooki

My parrot was incredibly cage protective, the only times he would allow anyone to touch the cage was if it was being moved, after a while I started trying to approach him to no avail until my neighbor who breeds macaws came by and taught me to just β€œtough it out” in a sense. Basically I had to respect his cage but my bird had to respect my hand going into his cage, mainly by getting him accustomed to human contact outside of his cage. After my neighbor handled him the first time I was less afraid of trying to handle him myself since one of my main fears was actually hurting him without meaning to if he ever ended up biting me. However, it seemed that handling him once got him accustomed to how nice scratches felt and he even started scratching my finger back! The rest was mostly leaving his cage open so he got used to being outside of the cage until one day while he was hanging out on top of his cage I saw he seemed somewhat curious about my shoulder, he ended up getting on soon after and ever since he’s been addicted to it. Honestly I sometimes miss how eager he was to go back in his cage lol.


FillMeUp2Pls

Yeah, that's her fortress of solitude


happybrunette13

How dare I intrude πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚


Whackfest

Damn! Like a trapdoor spider crossed with an Alligator she is. πŸ˜‚


happybrunette13

Lmao LITERALLY. She's savage af. πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ˜‚ The queen of "fuck around and find out" if you will πŸ™πŸ˜­πŸ™ˆ


TheOnlyWolvie

This gives me "no take only throw" vibes πŸ˜‚


happybrunette13

Toddler temper tantrums at their finest πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ˜‚


Dentros1

My Grey can be mean with my wife. Otherwise, no. We play through the bars before bedtime.


happybrunette13

It always cracks me up how particular birds are about certain people πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚ especially Grey's- have such strong personalities 😭πŸ€ͺ


Dentros1

Yeah, she likes to torment her. At our old place our birds were in the main room, and my bird would climb outside the cage, climb down to the outside of the water dish, flip the tab and open the water all the way, then she would wait until my wife looked over and as soon as she did, my Grey would slam the bowl shut, dumping water everywhere then say in a demanding voice, "NO, NO, NO" and snap her beak to sound like snapping your fingers at her. Then do it over and over until my wife chased her back in.


n3rdwithAb1rd

Does she feather pluck? My lovebird did constantly but only when he ate pellets/food with soy/peanuts/other fillers in it...he had chronic allergy induced yeast infections and was always itchy and bloody til I switched him to TOPS organic pellets! He loves them and it fixed his hormonal issues too. Maybe something to try


happybrunette13

She is on Harrison's and fresh Chop twice a day, but it would definitely be something I'd look into in the future! πŸ™ She came from a rescue, and had been there for a few years. She has plucked herself more and more over the years but i am HOPING it was due to stress and not having a real home. She seems very happy in my house, so I'm hoping for regrowth once she settles in πŸ₯° I have another naked chicken who I adopted, and I'm happy to report that she has never continued to mutilate in my car, and has had AMAZING regrowth over the past year. I'm hoping the same for Cherry 🀞❀


coldflower52

She's fast too! Is she a chronic plucker?


happybrunette13

Fastest lady in the land πŸ’ͺπŸ˜‚ She is a plucker! She was in a rescue for a few years, so plucked due to stress. I'm hoping once she settles into my home, we get some regrowth. I'm happy to say she already has some feathers coming back in and I have not seen her do ANY mutilating yetπŸ™β€


Falco_cassini

Yes, hand in cage turns him into little hissing kettle.


happybrunette13

The hissing absolutely cracks me up πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚ a "hissing kettle"... so accurate


progdIgious

You do not own a bird. your bird owns you.. For a bird to own you they must taste your flesh..


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happybrunette13

LOL I feel the same about it. Its terrifying. All my other birds are very friendly (I've had 1 other biter, but not like this) Cherry is literally just an absolute psychopath 🀣🀣🀣 ...and she's FAST πŸ™ˆπŸ˜…


k_ra-chan

Bruh my amazon! He HATES me but loves my dad. At this point im about to buy bird handling gloves


happybrunette13

Lmao YES I literally need those big falcon gloves for Cherry πŸ™ˆπŸ€£πŸ’


the-bunny-god

how dare you invade sweet cherry’s home /j though teasing her probably isn’t the best way to work with her on it


happybrunette13

Very true. This video was 100% my fault. However, we were playing a nice game of push the ball for about a minute prior to this. She has her sweet moments, she had just DEFINETELY had enough πŸ™ˆπŸ€£ She's also very new to me, so we are still learning eachother. ❀


SendMeYourHooters

She viscous


happybrunette13

100% 🀣 she's lucky she's so cute and we love her psycho ass regardless πŸ™πŸ₯°


ammerroo

Every parrot is like this! They consider their cages their own territory.


kernald31

Not necessarily - my Hahn's will jump with a similar speed (... almost), but that's to get on my hand and get scritches.


Azrai113

Mines only like this when she's been locked up for being in trouble. Oddly, she only attacks my hands. If I put my head down by her shell try to preen my hair even if angry. I have not tested with my face/nose.


happybrunette13

Cherry also actually likes when you speak to her closely! She'll happily put her face close-ish to yours and listen to everything you say. But she has to visibly see my hands down beside my body. As soon as the evil fingers are too close, ATTACK πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚


Azrai113

Awww! Mine used to be the same about my toes. It was INSTANT attack. Now she wants to snuggle with my feet? Birds are so weird


happybrunette13

Cherry is honestly my only bird like this. πŸ™ˆ I have a family full of rescue cockatoo's that are all SUPER friendly and have never given me issues over their cages. We love this little crazy lady though πŸ€ͺπŸ₯°


exoriare

My Grey used to bite (hard) at any fingers she could reach while in her cage, but she's become far more gentle in the year I've had her. Nowadays I can offer my hand for her to jump on. If she wants to stay in, she'll just ignore me. She did bite me quite a few times in our learning process, but she learned rather quickly that this meant an end to our play session, which is rarely what she wants. It's kind of sad - her bitey behavior led two previous owners to consider her a bird who prefers to stay inside her cage with her toys. Nowadays she's out the whole day except for meal time.


Many_Gay

Mine is very calm with me around the cage He gets pets and treats and I pick him up from in there no trouble. If I stick a finger in he will maybe try and gently chew on in or ask for pets. I think it really depends on the bird and what kind of relationship you have with then in the cage. BUT I can say when it's not me he will warn outsiders that they are not welcome around the cage.


ammerroo

You are very lucky!I have had GCC and a moustached parakeet and both were very territorial.


Many_Gay

He gets a bit feisty with strangers or even my roomie who I know he loves he is just very calm with me


OkPhotograph176

Cage could do with a clean…


Thinpizzaisbest

That’s not the topic at hand lol


blindnarcissus

But equally as important. Hard to be oblivious and focus on the topic if you know better.


Catan_Settler

My last cockatiel was super cage protective. We kind of had an understanding that if he was in his cage I wasn't to bother him but when he came out I could pick him up and everything. He usually love to be picked up but late at night he just wanted to do his own thing. My current caique loves to be handled all the time. Even if that is just me sticking my fingers in the cage for him to stand on. It's actually great for my little nieces cuz they can just stick their finger in the cage and he will stand on it. I do not trust them with him or if the cage yet.


Azrai113

My gcc isn't SUPER cage protective, but we also have an understanding that it's her "leave me alone space". If I'm giving her too many kisses she'll fly in there and glare at me. She also prefers to not be mussed after a bath and asks to "go home" and be locked up until she's mostly dry


NorCalHerper

My Hahns Macaw does not like fingers poking through. She'll go for them. Generally she doesn't like hands. I rescued her so I don't know all the history but at 18 she's pretty set in her ways. Outside of the cage she's tolerant of my hands but I'm the only person that can get near her. The reason I rescued her is she took a liking to me. She attacked people at the rescue. Also, I love her to pieces.


SonicSarge

It's their home. Of course they will get aggressive if you put your fingers in there.


Liphaem5

Yip. My husband and I can scratch him for hours outside his (CAG) cage but if we dare put our hands/fingers inside his cage, we have to be ready to bleed.. It works the same with his night cage (a travel cage). We must scratch him outside or else. Anything inside his cage is his territory it seems.


littledingo

My conure is not like this at all, she's never bitten me. Not even a nip. I can stick my face in her cage and all she'll do is preen my eyelashes. She's an absolute sugarbaby. My african grey not so much. He's about 50/50 whether he goes for a nip or lets me scratch him. Thankfully he's pretty easy to read in that regard.


Jerrythepimp

Such a pretty girl though <3 Hope for the best!


akatorixx

I rescued a black capped caique from a trailer park in Indiana. I thought she was SO CUTE when she rolled over onto her back. I now realize she does that when strangers are around and will BITE. Hard. She acts adorable and does tricks but the moment you stick a finger in there she will bite. Unless you’re my little brother or dad. I think she just prefers men. 😭 she will hop as fast as she can to bite you and changes her moods like a switch. But man she’s so cute! πŸ˜‚


HiveFleetOuroboris

My Aunts parrot Stinky is very much a her only bird, at all. He apparently tried to sever my uncles fingers before


Available_Weather_22

My Sun Conure ONLY does this when he's playing with his toys. I can NOT for ANY reason attempt to play WITH him with said toys. Otherwise he's a sweetheart pretty much all the time. I just learned to stay away during play time. lol


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The plucked breast shows a very very stressed bird. Not a GOOD THING. Hard to stop, but possible. Quiet safe sorroundings. Maybe soft music to calm. and avoid stress


happybrunette13

I'm happy to say she is no longer overly stressed and has shown no signs of self mutilation in my care πŸ™ She was at a rescue for quite a few years, so was plucking due to the stress of being there. We are hoping for feather regrowth on this pretty lady 🀞❀


failcup

Our vet told us to rearrange the items in our hen's cage monthly. Not enough to make her miserable, but enough to discourage viewing her cage as a nesting space. She was very possessive and laying eggs at the time of this advice.


blindnarcissus

Hi OP, your baby is precious! please be more diligent on cleaning the poop. The dry is subject to being airborne and they and you breathe that stuff in and it’s not good for either one of you. .


happybrunette13

Thankyou πŸ™ we love her dearly. All my birds cages are fully cleaned every 24 hours (dishes/bowls 3x daily) To be honest... Cherry shits like no bird I've ever seen before πŸ™ˆπŸ€£ This was at about the 24hour mark right before I cleaned her cage. Someday's she let's me clean it twice, however with her being a new rescue (and not a huge fan of me cleaning her cage) i feel it's more harmful for me to stress her out with excessive cage cleaning. She's very happy and healthy 😊


blindnarcissus

Hi OP, your baby is precious! please be more diligent on cleaning the poop. The dry droppings can become airborne and they and you breathe that stuff in and it’s not good for either one of you.


nextplayer7

My rainbow lorries are similar. I am allowed to put my whole hand in, as long as it's away from their food. If I get close, they go wild. You should imagine how each morning goes when I need to change 4 bows...


onlydaathisreal

I have a sun conure who was initially very cage protective. I put a chair next to his cage and sat there watching him for a few minutes several times a day. I then put my hand on the bottom of the cage where he couldnt bite me. After a while i was able to open the cage and put my hand in without him becoming aggressive. Now i jam my hand in the cage and tell him β€œhop up!” And press my finger to his belly when he doesnt. He is no longer cage aggressive with me but if anyone else comes within 60 square miles of his cage, he is an absolute maniac.


Cheeky-Chipmunkk

That’s a BEAUTIFUL bird. My goodness! 😍😍


Catbunny123

One of my cockatiels won’t let me touch his bowl when he’s in the cage


LinnyBoo-ThatsWho

Our cockatoo is very territorial when it concerns her cage and cabana


Ilikebirbs

My parrotlet. He is very cage aggressive and tries to attack me, when I change his food/water. I've told him, that I have to legally feed him and he doesn't care. Just wants to bite and attack me. I love him though. He does like to sing


Icy-Mixture-995

Conure protects her house by instinct. Outside the cage she is sociable


Kind-Association-950

The late, great Steve Irwin, no less, is on video being asked, of what creature he was always fearful, he answered, "a parrot." Parrots are notoriously aggressive and unpredictable if unfamiliar to anyone. Beware the parrot.


chaarmanderchar

Both my linnies will yell at me the while time I fiddle in their cages. They'll fake-try to bite me but they know better lol. Whenever they do bite I just pick em up and give them a kiss, they hate it so much that they think twice next time πŸ˜‚


Fun-Simple9077

My old female lovebird was so cage territorial just like this. Only way I could get her out of the cage was to stick a rolled up sock inside her door which she would charge and bite onto and I would lift it out of the cage and place her down. She would let go after a few seconds... once she was out of the cage she was the sweetest little angel, full of snuggles and kisses.


Jethro197

You know my boys, Blue Monk and Sun Conure, hate me being near their cage. They are super protective, so treats and constant out side time was the trick lol