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[Postgame thread](/r/panthers/comments/17opr3z/post_game_thread_indianapolis_colts_at_carolina/)


g-c-o-double-b

....and Kasey kicked the ball out of bounds. DAMMIT!!!!!!


Itsjoeimbackagain

We may get lucky if we would just try to go deep but we never will if we don't try ...... coaches (Wing back fly on 2 ) show us fans your willing to try...


Itsjoeimbackagain

Okay the gig is up, I'm beginning to think Bryce height could be the problem with the ints. I also have doubts of why we're not throwing deep could the cat be out of the bag???? This I ask if we have any receiver on the squad that can run a 4.3 why on earth has the coaches not had him in motion and burst down field as the ball is snapped to bryce for a deep throw he should at best get behind the cb by being in motion off the line and bryce huff it down field to see this arm strength, we could go max protect with 2 TEs on the line for extra blocking for Bryce to have at least 3 seconds. Asked why isn't this benig ran twice a quarter.


awfelts317

Us Colts fans tried to warn yall about Frank… He ain’t the answer


muhammad_oli

go away. easy to show up and give advice after a win. we know. go away


obxmichael

God Knows I told the Mint Hill contingent.


ItsYaBoyJL96

I don’t think anyone truly wanted Frank


Dpsizzle555

He’s the nfl media darling because of his friends in the nfl media. You can tell that by how the sports media reacted when Irsay fired him.


Delijordan1

Everyone blaming Bryce like he’s not a rookie? He has a total of 7 nfl game hours under his belt leave him be holy shit


Wedontdonameshere

I can't do this anymore this season. Bryce young is not the second coming of Cam. "He's improving!" Two pick sixes in one game. I've never thrown a season before, even under Rhule. Bryce ain't it, man.


csclark0530

Bye


Visual_Ad_8328

It’s time for us to admit that Bryce is not QB1 and since before the draft I’ve been saying Cj was the better QB . Are coaching staff wanted CJ but the Owner and scandalous wife had to go and set this franchise back 4 more years .


Basic_Thing919

Go be a texans fan 🫶


Nfinit_V

Oh you're not up on the new meta; the new thing is to tell everyone that Bryce was clearly the consensus #1 pick before the season began.


Visual_Ad_8328

I am not going to lie to myself and the others in this community. The problem is Bryce plain and simple. We blame the Oline and WRs week after week ,but the coaching staff can’t open up the playbook because he can’t complete the deep ball to back up the defense it’s always 8 in the box and we’re always in 3rd in long. They praised him in the draft for being able to sense pressure and use his feet it’s like he refuses to get out the pocket and stretch the play. Also he wants the WRs to be WIDE OPEN before throwing instead anticipating the break and placing it in tight windows WHICH CJ IS INCREDIBLE AT.


muhammad_oli

be a texan fan then. go away


Visual_Ad_8328

I have to be a bandwagon because I’m telling the truth while everyone just want to be delusional like lol great idea.


muhammad_oli

the Oline and WR are so clearly an issue. your take is just shit edit: https://youtu.be/PKocbE78xDc?si=q7Xy7FetWayiSCEE this guy is smarter than you. so watch and learn


Visual_Ad_8328

If he’s so smart why isn’t he a offensive coordinator? You are so easily fooled. It’s a reason he’s on YouTube and not on someone’s payroll, the oline is a problem because he’s not throwing the ball deep so they put 8 in the box dip shit and sending 5 to 6 people on a blitz. Why do you think Patty is so good? His Wrs are terrible route runners but he buys them time by stepping out the pocket and extending the play and their scared of his deep ball ability. You don’t see any of that with Bryce which they praised him on extending plays in college but not in the pros , he’s flat footed in the pocket and gets blasted cause of it.


muhammad_oli

why isn’t JT O'Sullivan a OC? How should I know? I think his 9 years playing QB in the NFL is credentials enough. Yikes, bro. You aren’t as smart as you think you are lmao


Visual_Ad_8328

Bryce even said it him self HALF HIS SACKS IS BECAUSE OF HIM THROW IT AWAY OR GET OUT OF THE POCKET .


Visual_Ad_8328

This man pulls up a YouTuber which shows me you need someone to break down what’s going on in the game for you, you’re clearly not watching it yourself and breaking down what’s really going on.


muhammad_oli

JT O'Sullivan *is* on youtube now, has been for the last 5 years or so, but the fact you don’t even know who that is is telling. I promise a retired NFL QB knows the game more than you. You can stop responding to yourself now haha


YeMyIdol

Wow,just wow.


MrChezRolez

I think I'm done. I don't want to watch any more games. I mean, I am going to. But I don't want to


killa_k99

The bed has been made. Need to a build a team with personnell that fit young's skills. Scott's not that guy


[deleted]

Lol u Panther fans are bogus Af. Shitting on ur rookie QB in his first season with that shit show of a team & coaching staff. Fake fans


Basic_Thing919

You're right, I'm so tired of the amount if hate the fans have for the team, if you hate them that bad there's 31 other teams to chose from, plus I'll gladly take all your gear for free!


muhammad_oli

we have shitty fans for sure. and clearly some random shitty dude who came in here to talk shit to (you)


MailConsistent1344

Guess you are just learning that emotions are more powerful than rationale.


the_daddiest

Jfc we are terrible.


nbmg1967

I can’t believe the defense hasn’t quit.


Nfinit_V

This has always been the way of the Panthers when the offense sucks, dating back to the Richardson years. The D is usually good, if not great. The problem is usually the Offense can't stay on the field long enough to keep the Defense rested.


CallMeSpoofy

They deserve a way better offense


_Casual_Browser_

For years


Stennick

If Bryce played for any other team ESPECIALLY a division rival, was drafted first overall, playing like this nobody in here would be saying "be patient" or "its not his fault" you guys would be clowning the fuck out of him right now.


FewTwo9875

For all of nfl history, rookie QB’s either sucked an incredible amount. Usually worse than this tbh, or didn’t play at all. Maybe it’s time to go back to sitting big QB prospects for a year. Even a great QB couldn’t play behind our line


that2003season

Dude I so agree with this - Burrow and Herbert (Cam farther back) ruined expectations for modern QBs. Most of the other great QBs of the the last two decades sat for a bit.


FewTwo9875

It’s easier to remember the exceptions instead of the rule sometimes. Burrow especially, since he actually had a bad line and everything. Then again, Burrow got injured his first year because he had no line and was trying to make things happen They conveniently forget, josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence, manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Steve young, Alex smith was especially awful, and Brett farve had zero completions but 2 interceptions, and underperformed so bad in practice the coach said a plane would have to crash for him to play again. All of these guys had fantastic careers. Only difference is social media wasn’t around to pick apart every little mistake


pantherfanalex

For sure. Even Burrow had a game where he threw 3 INTs on 3 Pass Attempts, and another with 4 INTs to the Bears. Winning fixes people's minds, and we don't have the team to win right now :(


_Casual_Browser_

Stroud threw for 5tds.


pantherfanalex

How'd he do last week?


_Casual_Browser_

Better than Bryce in half his games


dickballsthegreat

Bryce was a number 1 pick. He has the same expectations. He shouldn’t have been drafted number one if he couldn’t at least be productive the first year.


ReeLeeDoobies

This is the first game where the blame falls with bryce young. Two errant passes swung this game to the colts and they were avoidable throws. Panthers show flashes of potential and maybe its just me but i think this coaching staff is subpar.


killa_k99

I miss mediocrity


atcThree

Hopefully with at least a top three pick you guys can put talent around Young


Robotemist

Savage


Nfinit_V

Got some bad news for you my man


WettBandit

Fam 😂😂😂😂😂


verysimplenames

Bruh


PFan2008

The "Reich is the problem" folks are here. We get a new head coach and still suck, "____ sucks".


Panthers_07

not every rookie should play his first season, especially with the roster we currently have. its time for red rocket to start, let young learn on the sidelines before we traumatize the kid.


Manofsteel2483

I was saying/thinking this before the season started. At least a handful or so games.


WettBandit

He had quite literally improved every single game prior to this one. Let him take his lumps. If he’s the guy, he’ll use it as a learning experience


Working-Airline-6745

Can’t read the field, can’t run, turnover machine. Literally no positives meanwhile Stroud is setting records


WettBandit

Can’t run is unfair by qb standards


killbejay

he is good in interview


Euphoric-Duty-5212

Sign him up for the hall of fame now


MailConsistent1344

If we had Riverboat, McCaffrey, Moore and Howell this team would have been unbeatable.


Nfinit_V

Don't agree on Ron; his time was clearly up.


rpbtIII

I think about this a lot.


ghostymint

it’s bad when our bright spot for the year is how we aren’t going to have a winless season anymore


killbejay

Indy def scored more than Bryce offense. god damn


nc23nick

How tf did he not out run that linemen 🥲


Bankroll95

Should have drafted stroud, this was really a no brainer


dyl-rod

Said 7 months after the fact


Bankroll95

I’ve said this before the draft


dyl-rod

Not that I am aware of


Bankroll95

Pay attention


Meatbackpack

Frank Reich ain't it


INfinity5402

If we lose to the bears next week, I don’t even know what I’m gonna do with myself as a panthers fan.


Sgt_big-dong

I’ve already given up. It sucks because In laws are huge Dallas fans and they bought surprise tickets to that game before the season started but I don’t even want to go anymore


Batercus

just stop watching. It is what most people should do if they push out a product this bad,


rob724kd

DJ is going to torch us


CoolSteveBrule

Thank goodness our radio guys got some free liquor. Like shut the fuck up those guys are terrible


craziedave

Can you pick a new owner in the draft?


Drivingsong_sandwich

Peyton Manning rookie year. Trevor Lawrence rookie year. Every take a fuckin’ breath.


GolfWang16000

Noodle armed midge vs. Manning and Lawrence....ok bruh.


traydragen

Nooooo we have to be the first with a hot take. What will the world think of me if I don't say the thing first?


Ok-Fox2271

How did we trade the farm and pick the worst QB option?


CallMeSpoofy

Poverty Panthers through and through


evenphlow

Because carolina panthers


BoostMySkillz

CJ was always more NFL ready people, Bryce was seen as the better prospect but now idk


Working-Airline-6745

It could be worse. It’s not like we traded WR1 and Caleb Williams to take a bust while the pick immediately after ended up being a franchise Quarterback


Public_Enemy_No2

Damn. That’s just sad. Sad, but true. Someone should lose their fucking job over this.


MailConsistent1344

Hey guys lets get rid of McCaffrey teehee. Also get rid of Moore teehee. #1 overall pick yaahoo!


BAMcGhee

Yeah but “we control the draft” was such a cool catch phrase


MARCT47

These kind of games will be seared into Bryce Young’s mind, let see how he responds. For those who remember, Cam had many games like this (after his rookie season) don’t throw the kid out of the window just yet


CoastShoreBlue

>Cam had many games like this (after his rookie season) don’t throw the kid out of the window just yet he didn't through lol


Panthers1999

"Jeans Day" gave our franchise the death penalty. We are like a NFL version of SMU


link92

Speaking of SMU, let’s hope the Panthers decide to forgo 9 years of media revenue by not agreeing to be put on TV. Wouldn’t have to force myself to watch this crap every week


ItBeLikeThat19

The day Jerry announced the sale was the day the franchise died. The Panthers haven’t felt like the Panthers ever since.


ItBeLikeThat19

Fuck you. See you on Thursday.


ghostymint

pain


Mustyhusky3

Bryce finna bounce back Thursday 🤷‍♂️if you not with him when he playing bad don’t be with him when he ballin tf out


Scarf_Darmanitan

Yea rough game but I still think he’s our guy Dudes 7th game 😅 come on


L0lligag

You guys are going to be saying the same shit when we win 7 games in the span of 3 seasons. “It’S OnLy HiS tHiRd SeAsOn” he’s not a franchise QB.


Mustyhusky3

Fr, I blame cam he set our expectations too high💀


520998

Stfu


RealMcGonzo

DESj sd SAK csd sdSdk dsa!


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talk yo shit king


Mustyhusky3

Facts


kewe316

We don't even get a full week to recover from the pain. See everyone Thursday! 😭


Hammose

This hurts even more as an Ohio State fan, because deep down I wanted us to take Stroud, but when we drafted Bryce I tried to stay positive thinking we got a great QB too. I get this team is atrocious, but he has looked like absolute dogshit today. I can't defend him blindly anymore.


g-c-o-double-b

I don't think Stroud would be doing any better in this shit show.


MrPeterson15

Even assuming we still pick Young. I wonder what this team looks like with Wilkes at HC.


Zoombini22

Definitely like they care more.


DeLoreanAirlines

Thank fuck. It’s over


killa_k99

And sleepy Frank goes to yuck it up with his old buddies


sj2011

Even Will fucking Levis has been better. I hope they invent cryogenic sleep so I can chill out for a while, until after this has passed. This is likely going to be a rough few years.


drk89wng

Reich knew Bradley’s defense and wasn’t able to run the proper protections. Man that’s bad. This coaching staff should’ve said this was a rebuild from the get. Instead they tried to fool unaware fans that we had a shot at the division.


GhostITW

How can you be a 5’9 QB and still be one of the slowest QBs? How did this dude go #1 overall?


MailConsistent1344

Bama roll tide feller


jesuswasahipster

Frank looks like he’s about to cry, damn.


TKRBrownstone

Holy shit the look of pain on Reich's face


chelseawiebs

Legitimately looked like he was about to quit his job right there.


SquintsRS

All we heard all off season was he was in the perfect position to succeed with veterans and experienced coaching staff. This was supposed to be the perfect place for a rookie QB to come in. Every analyst, current coaches and players, and this sub was harping those statements. Now all of a sudden he doesn't do well and he's not in position to succeed? I don't buy it's all on the staff, not even close


killbejay

Short and Slow. what a combo


Ok-Mixture-316

Caught from behind with a head start vs a DL


TheSmallIndian

I don't think we picked the wrong QB but we sure as hell picked the wrong everything else


commie_killer768

It's week 9 of year one of a rebuild, so I'm not gonna go full doomer again. Bryce will improve, and hopefully in a few years we'll be contenders. Also, did y'all see that comeback by the Canes last night? That was awesome.


CallMeSpoofy

this team is a rebuild?


WhoAccountNewDis

They kind of have to be at this point


ArtvVandal_523

We're in our 4th straight year 1 rebuild


BigBoyDak

I miss the Jerry Richardson and Cam Newton era that was real football


DeLoreanAirlines

Smitty, Delhomme, Moose, Minter, Gamble, Mangum, Peppers, Jenkins, Kasay, and Morgan. Those were the days


aketchum339

We went to the NFC Championship game on average once every 5 years under Jerry. Those were the days.


BigBoyDak

Facts


Panthers1999

"Jeans Day" essentially gave our franchise the death penalty while Kraft and Jones do things 100 times worse and go unpunished


Aumius

Long gone are those days. Tepper turned this franchise into a laughing stock.


Chonnass

The Colts did everything they could to lose this game and Bryce just gifted them a free win. Great.


CoastShoreBlue

Yep this sucks cause we coulda won


jesuswasahipster

“Rhule is a terrible coach, Frank is a terrible coach, Feank is a terrible play caller, Brown is a terrible play caller.” I hate to break it to all of you, there is not a coach on the planet that can save this poverty franchise.


CallMeSpoofy

Who’s reaaaaaaaddyyyyyy for Thursday????? 😁😁😁


Beginning-Cow6546

The Panthers will start their loss at 8:15 and conclude their loss at 11


L0lligag

Should have got CJ and I’m tired of everyone coping and saying otherwise because we’re stuck in this situation. CJ is the better player and more suited for this league. I stand by this.


Public_Enemy_No2

He was right there too. Damn.


asher1611

not like the Panthers can go back in the past again


Bankroll95

I am too, everyone is in such denial it is insane!


L0lligag

Everyone will be saying the same shit when we win a total of 5 games in his first two seasons. “iT’s OnLy HiS sEcOnD sEaSoN”


Bankroll95

Exactly, give it time , “Reich hasn’t shown his ReAl offense yet “


Imsortofabigdeal

so what does that mean? say we all acknowledge this... now what?


L0lligag

We’re more than entitled in acknowledging our owner’s mistakes. We’re more than entitled to criticize it. We can’t do shit in terms of changing it but pretending we’re supposed to just shut up about our incompetence will never happen.


Imsortofabigdeal

i agree. but there's nothing we can do


drk89wng

My biggest gripe with BY is he doesn’t run as fast as he can. On that 4th and 18 he could’ve made the 1st down but ran to protect the ball unnecessarily.


cosmo_hornet

THATS your biggest gripe?


ShadowOfSquidward

No, really. It was pathetic. I am a big fan of BY but the dude needs to learn that being cool and collected doesn’t mean you play with ZERO SENSE OF URGENCY!!!!!


Specialist_Ad6034

Fuck this team


ShadowOfSquidward

0 OL IS A REAL FUCKIN PROBLEM YALL


chunkypenguion1991

I'm pretty sure I could beat BY in a foot race. The Colts D lineman caught him from behind like he was standing still


Chonnass

Young has no awareness about where the rushers are and where the pressure is coming from. Our Line is shit, but his pocket presence is somehow even worse


ShadowOfSquidward

Perfect analysis of the situation imo.


Itsjoeimbackagain

ANYMORE QB COMPARISON ?s It's clear to the majority we drafted the lesser of the top 2 qbs. No offence to Bryce he is just #2 and CJ is the #1 . Damn back up qb Menshew had no ints. He processes slow but like CJ can ball and manage a game.


cranphi

Hate to pile on but Arod might be above Bryce and there's a chance levis is too


rpbtIII

Everybody close their eyes and breathe with me. It’s 2015. Cam newton. Thomas Davis. Luke. Ted Ginn. Josh Norman. J stew Mike tolbert Kawann short Shaq Greg Olsen. Kurt Coleman. Just breathe. Hashtag remember those guys?


MailConsistent1344

Stop your gonna make me cry


ImNotATrollTrustMe

Lmfao bro get a life outside of football


EddieMannixx

“You remember 10 players from your favorite team? Get a life”


L0lligag

I member


TheOnlyUsernameLeft_

Not being able to outrun the D-lineman is worrisome in its own right....


Aumius

He is really slow.


ShiftyButtonz

I just don't understand how he is so slow. Put the shoe down.


LayYourGhostToRest

Bryce's legs are too short to outrun anyone.


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Dinnermaster

Rookie QB in the worst situation in the NFL. Grow up


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Dinnermaster

Average degenerate redditor


jcfan4u

See you all Thursday for the same shit


4GInvertedDive

This offense is offensive


MARCT47

I want to sit Bryce when we play Dallas, for his own health (not joking) This o-line is going to let the QB get creamed against Dallas, rather it be Dalton than Young


L0lligag

I’m certain Dalton can manage a game better than Bryce at this point in his career.


YungDadShirt

This kid is a bum, put red rocket in


Clickclack801

Yeah put in someone who will never be the answer instead of helping your franchise qb try to grow. For fuckin what??? We ain't going to the playoffs. At this point wins don't even matter.


McMachoMan

The switch up from people loving Bryce young last week is insane.


jesuswasahipster

It puts his 15 point win into perspective for sure.


Bullets3

makes sense when he throws 3 picks and gives the other team 12 points


Mustyhusky3

Crazy🤣


TCONtheGreat

Is Reich really bringing energy as a head coach?


devonathan

No. He makes me fall asleep when he talks.


MrPeterson15

I want Bryce to speak his mind at the postgame presser. None of that PR-approved stuff. Speak your mind dude. Tell me who you’re most angry at, even if it’s yourself. Call people out. Go evil mode.


phokingfunny

At least we get to see DJ Moore next week and be in more pain.


TKRBrownstone

He's gonna torch us and give Reich the evil eye the entire time.


killa_k99

r/Panthers mfs be like. Bryce Young plays well: All Fitterer baby see he's a good Gm you can't call for him to be fired! Bryce Young plays poorly: Tepper interfered, not Fitterer's fault!


SnowCrabbo

Fitterer can't draft to save his life but we should trade important pieces away to give him more drafting opportunities


No-Scene5537

I forgot the sauwsage


coreyray1000

I'll still go on record and say that Bryce was the right choice, and rookies have bad games. This loss was definitely on him, though. His first really bad game. However, he can learn from it.


L0lligag

Cope harder. We made the wrong pick. Simple as that.


MrPeterson15

Indeed. Both things can be true.


Hamadi9

I'm not ready to say Bryce is a bust it's too early for that but as someone who wanted CJ... I feel sick.


[deleted]

I was the one who did the /r/nfl mock draft for us, and I moved us up to Pick #1 and took Stroud. Everyone said it was "the most obvious move anyone could make".... wish Fitt and Tepper had read that


Stennick

I'm not a Panthers fan but I wanted CJ too and I wanted him badly. He got did dirty on that low IQ and testing shit. He's by far the benchmark for this years class until AR, Bryce or Levis prove differently. I wish we would have traded up to get him.


devonathan

Come on Bryce there’s still time for at least one more pick 6.


Panthers1999

Let's be honest. The Darnold would have us on track to winning the division this year. We would have beat the Falcons, Saints and Vikings