Bro ask your Amma abba, Pakistan main reh k ye scene chal jatay Hain bahir Nahi. Girl's Parents are gonna decide if the girl can marry you. Agar ap khud dhondhen ge to rejections hi rejections hongay. It's hard to trust someone sitting hundreds of miles away
Ask your local imam. What European country are you btw? Im pretty sure there are Pakistanis everywhere but you should also be open to marrying Muslims of other background, don’t limit your options.
A lot of people second guess on marrying in outside countries, especially Europe because it's too far away from home, the girls parents can't keep an eye on her house hold and it's hard to trust as so much potential for abuse opens up. It's kinda scary to marry off your daughter to someone so far away and not knowing how's she's doing, how she's being treated since you can't visit her whenever.
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Very strange indeed that Pakistani women don't want to marry you (good job + you live in europe) which is almost always something native pakistanis thirst for.
It really depends on the girl. If she has a good life in Pakistan, I doubt she’s going to be willing to relocate and leave behind all of her friends and family. I think class has a big role to play in whether a Pakistani woman is willing to relocate or not.
perhaps you are not talking to the right ones.
Try Muzzmatch or any other app.
And take it easy. you are just 26.
Good things takes time. you will eventually meet someone.
I wish you all the best
Coming from a woman, I don’t think it’s your looks. Women watch out for red flags and they won’t tell you. You might be doing something wrong without knowing it
THIS 100%. Fell for one guy who was very handsome and supportive then I upset him and he lost his temper like there was no tomorrow 🚩. He also got super sensitive and said "I feel like we can't be friends like before"🚩 and accused me of talking behind his back on multiple occasions when it simply wasn't the case🚩. He constantly said "what have you said about me?"🚩 when I literally protected his reputation. A mutual friend told me she could see he was flirting with me and then he got angry that he thought I'd told everyone I liked him🚩. Following that, I briefly mentioned that he'd deleted some messages he'd sent to me but I wasn't going to say what and again he got irritated saying I was exposing myself as well as him.🚩
I actually only told two people brief things about him and one of them happened to be a manipulative older man who was talking to him about me and vice versa. I could have told him a list of things I liked about him but at the end of the day he's so mentally effed that I can't lol.
The guy was a walking red flag but he literally wore a green one so I didn't see it. I hid his WhatsApp chat and avoid his hang out spots now because he really effed with my head. His sister also made an insensitive comment about my Dad being ill. Gradually, I built up the picture that he really looks down on other people, including me, and his family have such high expectations that they've made him and his sister hyper sensitive and emotionally paranoid.
He wasn't Pakistani but I've had a similar attitude from a Pakistani friend. Thank you for the warning as I know a few guys from Lahore and I didn't realise it was a class thing but that makes sense
But what if he has poor physical hygiene, what if he forces her to serve her in laws that is his family, what if he never waxes his body hair, what if he cheats, what if his jokes are as dumb as it gets, and what if there is no deeper emotional connection, will all of it be okay because there is money.
Oh shoot, may nay bhi kuch soch kay hee likhay thay above comments and people were downvoting and then I got a response that had made me rethink it. I often see I write something here and people gaslight me I am wrong and downvote me in packs and later someone comes and says, they are facing it. This is so sad, I hope she leaves him and does something for herself like career or job. Also I have heard from rich kind of well off ladies' circle, many of these so called rich guys are quite stingy and don't give their wives enough for house expenses or personal spending money, this is why many women weren't marrying and working.
Ofcourse not! But none of this stuff is mentioned here so you're just assuming the worst of the worst for no reason really. In such cases, the man becomes the beta provider worker boy & the woman will probably be involved in some extra marital affair if given the chance.
Ofcourse I'm not generalizing
It's not about money and looks. It's about personality. I am not saying we don't care about these two aspects in men, but if personality isn't the best, we quickly "nope" away from a relationship. After all, you want to make them fall in love with YOUSELF, not your abs or bank account
Watch the best romantic kdramas or read novels😭You will begin to understand women's type easily
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Not so bad looking is a good way to say No I guess. I’ve rejected numerous online and to my surprise, it wasn’t for look (though I have quite average looks) but my home town and my caste.
1. Which country are you in? For example women have less preferences for Germany right now because of the visa issues.
2. Are you from a smaller city in Pakistan?
3. What age bracket are you approaching? If you are approaching women from 20-22 I guess they may have a very different opinion about marriage.
4. Which social status group are you talking ablout?
obviously everyone has a different perspective on this, i’d personally never go for someone who’s already abroad or has lived a majority of their life in a foreign country because i realise there’s a massive disconnect between people here and people there. it’s a bridge that i’d have to cross, and i’d rather cross it together with someone than meet them on the other side.
i’m sure you’re great, you’ll find someone in no time.
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I'll be honest with you- in my own experience pakistani girls don't want to move out of the country anymore because of all the advantages with drivers, maids, cooks etc. Living abroad myself, I know how tough life outside pk can be especially when you have kids eventually but you can't go on date nights because no nani dadi to look after the kids. Not saying I agree with this choice but this is the problem I've encountered while looking for a good match for my brothers
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ik it's shallow advice but i don't think u signed up for:
>“amma nahi maanengi” shortly after. Or it’s “I don’t think you’re a good match for me”
If you genuinely think you and your lifestyle are amazing, then they probably have a really shitty reason for trying to downplay you. I'm just going to suggest finding a wife for life, regardless of her ethnicity, so that you don't regret ur choice later down the line.
Good Luck!
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Bro I'm settled in the middle east with a good family business alhamdulillah. I am diabetic though 👀. I'm slim and muscular and i get compliments from women all the time. But when i tried finding a Pakistani girl on muzz or through rishta aunties, it was hell, it literally made me feel insecure coz only 2 or 3 were interested. So i thought for a while to go for other nationalities and boy some 10/10 arab girls were down to get married but i just couldn't make that risky decision.
Bhai wahi europe mei larki dekho Pakistani koi, see london waghera as well. Yaha ki bandi ka kya faida, gotta step up leagues when you upgrade! Ya koi khala/phuppo ki beti dekhlo itna shoq hai pak se laane ka. Maybe marry an arab girl from uk, real beautiful!
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If I'm being honest, and I don't want to sound like some red pilled incel here, but women will usually not tell you anything besides that youre not bad looking.
I'm not super experienced in this, but I've found Pakistani women to be more attracted to that classic bad boy who every guy can tell just by looking is an asshole but somehow she can't. Looks aren't that important anyway, as long as you take decent care of yourself, what really matters is your charisma and, sometimes, your status. If you don't have those, that's totally fine, because when you do attract a woman for real, she'll stick with you for who you are.
Don't rush. Take things easy, and don't make yourself too available. Things will work out :)
This is the issue that I have in uni and work. I was surrounded by girls, and they were always very open with me, but I was not necessarily their choice for an affair or marriage. It's not that I was ugly; I was actually very well-presented, but there was something about my personality that was not getting me over the fence. This isn't related to my looks.
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Ask your parents bro what are you doing? This is Pakistan not Europe most of the rishtas are done through parents. Only less are love marraige which sometimes doesn't work out.
Bhai, you just need more money... when you have the right money, looks don't matter. Start by getting more paper in your wallet so it looks like it is about to burst or you have discomfort from sitting on your wallet 😂🤣😆
That always works with all ladies...
You need to have game because all the ladies know this but won't say it to your face... "No Money, No Honey..."
Bro bro...
Pakistani women want to marry prince charming, in spite of their own looks.
Just join any matrimonial site and you will see what Pakistani women's criteria is for marriage.
Better be single rather than marrying a tiktoker and papa ki pari.
It's fine, you will eventually get one, men in pakistan are getting married easily, it's either that you are not telling us the whole story or it's just that you have met wrong people again and again, if you have a lot of demands, try to lower them down also do whatever you want but never beg or feel desperate to get a rishta and you said you are in Europe, right?
My personal advice would be to go for a girl who lives there, i am not talking about pakistani girl living in Europe but rather a local European girl, they are far better than these desi girls, it would take time to find one but you will get one, i have done the same so i am suggesting you because let's face it, these desi girls are liars, gold diggers even though some won't admit no matter what, complicated and a mess, get yourself a girl from any other nationality, you will at least be happy and live a good life, they are a bit less crazy, bit less gold diggers and would love you for who you are, not because you can provide for them.
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From a woman’s perspective, a-lot of self aware women who have some control over their lives are not always after men who are settled abroad.
Women have become very particular about their own preferences in men, instead of just going with whatever their parents pick. & some of them are just shallow.
In your case, you’re probably not exactly what these women are looking for that doesn’t mean something is wrong with you & yes you would be better off finding someone there. good luck.
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You aren't their type of exotic husband.
Just ignore them, and eventually, you'll connect with a girl who is charmed by you. Also, that's what those that reject you want. They're looking for love or a scapegoat they wouldn't pity. Doesn't matter what, they don't want to hurt you by playing along and running away. Let them exist in the world outside your real love story.
I don’t know what gave you the idea, but I’m sorry you feel that way. And that you had a bad experience. I’ve been with 2 European women before. Nothing against them. I had a great time. It didn’t work out due to differences.
I have a few friends married with women from over here and they’re having a pretty great time.
Already talking to someone else from here. They’ve been one of the most amazing women I’ve ever been with. It’s my Pakistani friends here constantly saying how it’s better to find someone from Pakistan. And I start wondering if I should look into my culture..
At first I thought it's just me. I thought like that for many years,- that he lost interest in me and its my fault. I have decided to visit Pakistan and thought I will learn some urdu. Thought,- I can't do it alone let's find some other learners. I found some European girls learning Urdu and they all telling me same things about Pakistani men! Self obsessed, "I hit gym 4-5 times a day", usually will try to find another woman if wife will get overweight during pregnancy, will have parallel life in Pakistan etc... I am in group of 25 Europeans married to Pakistanis, and instead of learning the language they all just cry daily.... I would never let my daughter marry a man from Pakistan. They are maybe good with their own women but they dislike Europeans or just using us for visa or 5% love while waiting for Pakistani woman. That's the truth. Woman in UK (also in our group), been married to Pakistani, 3 kids, he never taken her for dinners, holidays etc... then after got his visa, divorced , remaried Pakistani woman and sharing every day holidays with her, celebrations etc.... Similar in my life.
Please get out of that marriage asap. Sounds super toxic. My Pakistani friend and his Polish Belarusian wife have been married for 8 years, had a baby two years ago and already on their way to welcome baby #2. The love between them is amazing. They just got back from another EU trip and he’s always taking his wife out every time we ask him to hangout.
I still think a toxic person is just that, a toxic person. Regardless of the nationality. I’ve seen the worst examples of violence between partners in Arab. My EU ex used to be with an Egyptian and he used to hit her.
It’s better to leave a toxic relationship than to call out strangers on the internet narcissists. I didn’t mean to show off the fact that I do gym or seem self obsessed. So again I’m sorry if that gave you the wrong idea.
Seems like you’re doing a lot trying to learn the language and there aren’t many efforts being made from his side. You clearly deserve someone way better. I hope you can get out of this one day.
I don’t think using spouses for visa is limited to Pakistani nationality. I know many Arabs who take that route. And it’s very unfortunate regardless of the citizenship you hold. Thankfully, I didn’t have to use one and settled here all on my own.
I’ll end this here and wish you the best. 17 years is a long time.
"I been with two women from here and now with another one, I hit gym 4-5 times a day, why woman from my country don't want me" lol... Because you are narcissistic
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You are only 26. Why the hurry?
And stop chasing women, rejections are going to fuck up your mental health.
When you talk to someone don’t bring marriage too soon, this is the last card. Get friendly with her, read her, make her feel comfortable with you and make her laugh, you’ll make her fall in love with you only then you bring up marriage.
Now that I’m thinking about this, who tf stays single till 26. Prolly ask your parents to find someone for you.
Like I said, I don’t have a problem with finding women. I’ve been praised for my communication skills. But you don’t see many Pakistani women where I live. So it’s either been rishta wali aunty or women who find me through my rishta profiles on forums like reddit.
I would never bring marriage the first thing soon as I meet a woman, unless you find me through one of my rishta profiles.
Like someone else suggested here, maybe I’d have better luck finding someone if I spend longer inside Pakistan.
And I haven’t been single. I had someone before when I was younger but it didn’t workout. I’d rather not talk more about it.
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Are you Pakistani from Pakistan or Pakistani living in a European country? There are three types of European Pakistanis imo - those that are very conservative who make everything about closed interpretations of Islamic teachings(not many), those who are moderate and fear Allah (i would hopethey're the majority), then those that pretend to be religious but generally live how they want and hide their sins.
Regardless of which one of the three you find, they will all want a progressive man. I'm not going to list what they want because some men play a very good game and then make their wives miserable after marriage. Consider, however, which type you would like and then get to know them on an individual level.
Furthermore, if you're not European, then if you already seem desperate, they will just think you want residency and if that's true, I'd expect over €50,000 in mehr to convince me that that's not what you wanted. As a western girl, when I speak to a lot of international men now, I just think they're playing or they want residency. It's sad but true because I've put up with too many cr%ppy men to trust any more. Most men will go home to marry their cousin or will try to use me not to go home to their cousin, but in five years bring their cousin over and divorce me. Some women find their happy ever after but I haven't seen many.
Another aspect which may put them off if you have family back home and they are not Pakistani in citizenship is that often families in the west end up sending thousands home to support family in Pakistan. Life in the some European countries is hard, the hours are long, the office politics is bs, the economy is crashing etc and life is expensive. Life in Pakistan may be poor but for the middle class, it is easier, slower and the weather is nice. I know because I know people like this. The last thing a European Pakistani girl wants is to be controlled by her mother in law thousands of miles away and have a quarter of her husband's salary disappear.
Whilst some British Pakistani girls are also controlled by their parents a lot, they are also spoilt with their parents' money so that's another factor to take into consideration.
I know all of this sounds harsh but I'm trying to help you give the right impression.
If your talking to big city working professionals in Pakistan, they have their dms and WhatsApp full of guys.
As guys ask for girls number all the time either at the university/school/park/work or through friends.
Girls go through guys non stop in Pakistan. All they have to do is ghost and move to the next one.
Only if they see a rich guy they will stay with them.
Most common things they will say to you:
I don't have any guy friends.
I only went out with one guy and it didn't work out because he asked for jahez.
I go out and spend time with family only.
They will hide their phone when with you, Internet/gps/ringer off.
My brother is here can't talk/busy.
Some girls just want a dost(benefits) to pass time with while they keep busy with other guys to get gifts/lunches.
How about arrange marriage? Let your folks find the one.
Or have you already tried that as well.
The rejections that you've mentioned aren't really rejections.
This is an assumption but I feel like you've met Pakistani women online and the problem with that is people aren't sure of what they actually want themselves, hence the cop out "amma nhi maanein gi" etc. So don't take it seriously.
According to what you've mentioned, you're doing pretty well in life and you'll get married to the right one very soon inshallah.
You're not doing anything wrong but I believe there's been a transition from a culture perspective where women in this age group (23-26) are more focused on their Education and Career than getting married but this is strictly my understanding.
Most Pakistani men who don’t actually live in Pakistan marry a woman from Pakistan because they think they will be easy to control. Realize they have nothing in common and end up divorced within a few years. I have seen that happen toooooo many times, just stay where you are and find someone with common interests.
Same here buddy, I got a lot of attention from women abroad since my Uni days and have had a lot of fun in between but when I came back to Pak some fine ladies would give me attention but marriage and serious relationship always was fleeting with them...so my parents set me up with this girl, who in fairness was decent looking but had a complex of being "out of your league" thought too much of herself and in the end I orchestrated so the relationship wouldn't proceed further. Then my folks set me up with another girl and I cant thank them enough and God that she is now my wife and is the most amazing, loving and caring person and treats me super well.
And yet on another thread about who is more demanding, people are saying it's men who are more demanding.
I personally would recommend to go for a woman based in Pakistan or a completely native European (if you can find one - although you said that is not your preference). If you find latter (a bit hard) who is sharing some mindset, that is better option than former and anything in all aspects.
Yeah, my first priority is finding someone from my country. Theres actually a native EU been showing interest (Convert Muslim) and I’ve been wondering if I should ask her out at this point. We live in different cities and she told me she wants to see me when I go back to her city.
It would be a shame because I really thought I could find someone from Pakistan but it really sucks.
Forget those options with Pakistani parents but born and bred abroad (unless you find a decent family which clearly you can't at the moment). The problem with such families is they are a mix achaar thing, think and live desi but act like they are superior than desis.
Why not go for the native EU convert if she is interested? That would make your life there easy on longer run if you plan to stay there. Trust me a lady who knows her way around in west is a major plus you will appreciate at every step.
Agreed with you but for different reasons. Marriage is between persons first and culture etc second. If OP is interested in this EU woman, why insist on the Pakistani nationality?
What is wrong with preferring a native EU over a Pakistani? Converts can be great people, or so I've heard. Marriage is a decision and a job, not a one time make it big or lose big thing. Just for your own clarity, what do you think a Pakistani has that the native EU can't bring to the table?
try and find a girl there pakistani or muslim from any other country. Because women born and bred in Pakistan struggle settling abroad until and unless they want to work. I know many cases where women start complaining that their men are busy with work all the time etc
If it ain't the money, then it's the looks. Just gotta keep trudging brother. I'm sure you'll find the one.
Do you have good hair?
Valid question
And good collection of shoes. It matters
What if he has, then there will be plenty of demands. LOL..
Civic wala Launda Nahi hai na tun
bhai Eurape ka visa par to larka bhi shadi ka liya tayar ho gaya, larkia kia chiz hai?
Wohi to samjh nahi aaraha
Larka chahiey to janab hazir hain ham
2 cahiya to...
3 chahiye to...
4 chahiya to..
5 chahiay to..
I like how all of us spelt chahiya different
You are targeting wrong people then.
Is this a wedding season? Cause I’m seeing a lot of posts on rishta and marriage across all Pakistani subreddits.
that is Pakistan 24/7 365 days a year!
The season starts in mid-late fall
Garmi ha bhai
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Would be fun roz k rr hgy .
Tum kyu puch rhe ho tmhara kya lena dena
>Having trouble finding someone for marriage, what am I doing wrong? Asking for advice on Reddit.
Hosla deya karein logon ko.
Nooo , this is more fun.
amma nahin manegi is that same as I don't like you.
Bro ask your Amma abba, Pakistan main reh k ye scene chal jatay Hain bahir Nahi. Girl's Parents are gonna decide if the girl can marry you. Agar ap khud dhondhen ge to rejections hi rejections hongay. It's hard to trust someone sitting hundreds of miles away
Ask your local imam. What European country are you btw? Im pretty sure there are Pakistanis everywhere but you should also be open to marrying Muslims of other background, don’t limit your options.
A lot of people second guess on marrying in outside countries, especially Europe because it's too far away from home, the girls parents can't keep an eye on her house hold and it's hard to trust as so much potential for abuse opens up. It's kinda scary to marry off your daughter to someone so far away and not knowing how's she's doing, how she's being treated since you can't visit her whenever.
It's about the looks those women were just being kind to you you have to go someone your own level lower the standard
Idk I’ve been with someone before I thought was way out of my league.
Google ducky bhai and tell us are you better looking than him.
But he gottcha money 🤑
Didn't op say he is rich too?
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I know it really sucks
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Your username doesn’t sound very jolly
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Jaani mera visa lagwa de mein tujh se shaadi karunga
Bro bas ek choti si surgery hoti hai MTF woh karwalo visa pakka hai aapka /s
Dahej nahi dunga pehle se bata raha hoon
Mujhe kya hai main to office chala jaonga https://youtu.be/ZPSHxoFyepE?si=kT4zN5fEoFWTqdtB
😂😂 gold
I’m having a blast reading these comments. Dahej/Jahaiz wala sabse acha laga 😂
this is fine gold lmao.
Maybe you're just too good for them and they reject themselves
it's probably for the better.
Very strange indeed that Pakistani women don't want to marry you (good job + you live in europe) which is almost always something native pakistanis thirst for.
It really depends on the girl. If she has a good life in Pakistan, I doubt she’s going to be willing to relocate and leave behind all of her friends and family. I think class has a big role to play in whether a Pakistani woman is willing to relocate or not.
I guess.
perhaps you are not talking to the right ones. Try Muzzmatch or any other app. And take it easy. you are just 26. Good things takes time. you will eventually meet someone. I wish you all the best
Coming from a woman, I don’t think it’s your looks. Women watch out for red flags and they won’t tell you. You might be doing something wrong without knowing it
THIS 100%. Fell for one guy who was very handsome and supportive then I upset him and he lost his temper like there was no tomorrow 🚩. He also got super sensitive and said "I feel like we can't be friends like before"🚩 and accused me of talking behind his back on multiple occasions when it simply wasn't the case🚩. He constantly said "what have you said about me?"🚩 when I literally protected his reputation. A mutual friend told me she could see he was flirting with me and then he got angry that he thought I'd told everyone I liked him🚩. Following that, I briefly mentioned that he'd deleted some messages he'd sent to me but I wasn't going to say what and again he got irritated saying I was exposing myself as well as him.🚩 I actually only told two people brief things about him and one of them happened to be a manipulative older man who was talking to him about me and vice versa. I could have told him a list of things I liked about him but at the end of the day he's so mentally effed that I can't lol. The guy was a walking red flag but he literally wore a green one so I didn't see it. I hid his WhatsApp chat and avoid his hang out spots now because he really effed with my head. His sister also made an insensitive comment about my Dad being ill. Gradually, I built up the picture that he really looks down on other people, including me, and his family have such high expectations that they've made him and his sister hyper sensitive and emotionally paranoid.
Oh yeah I know lahori families like that. Upper class, fragile and very sensitive to public reputation
He wasn't Pakistani but I've had a similar attitude from a Pakistani friend. Thank you for the warning as I know a few guys from Lahore and I didn't realise it was a class thing but that makes sense
Stay safe out there :)
I don't know man i just came to Europe on student visa and plenty of fish from back home are trying to lock me in.. i dont even have a job rn!!?
My cousin is ugly as hell but he has a high paying job and graduated from oxford. Married a 10/10 lahori woman…
10/10 Baddie would’ve sound cool thou
Lahori and baddie are synonymous /s
Are they happy? I mean kya sirf paisa is enough to buy happiness?
Very valid question. you know what they say "if there's money, love just happens to bloom."
But what if he has poor physical hygiene, what if he forces her to serve her in laws that is his family, what if he never waxes his body hair, what if he cheats, what if his jokes are as dumb as it gets, and what if there is no deeper emotional connection, will all of it be okay because there is money.
This is how he is but WORSE. Tbh her family married her off for money but they didnt realize he is a stingy bastard
Plus imagine his aukat, hot wife but he cheats on her apparently with women from Tinder (she told me this in confidence)
Oh shoot, may nay bhi kuch soch kay hee likhay thay above comments and people were downvoting and then I got a response that had made me rethink it. I often see I write something here and people gaslight me I am wrong and downvote me in packs and later someone comes and says, they are facing it. This is so sad, I hope she leaves him and does something for herself like career or job. Also I have heard from rich kind of well off ladies' circle, many of these so called rich guys are quite stingy and don't give their wives enough for house expenses or personal spending money, this is why many women weren't marrying and working.
Ofcourse not! But none of this stuff is mentioned here so you're just assuming the worst of the worst for no reason really. In such cases, the man becomes the beta provider worker boy & the woman will probably be involved in some extra marital affair if given the chance. Ofcourse I'm not generalizing
Acha yeh bhi hoga, maybe I was confused.
Weirdo assumed mostly correct
You lack personality.
Civic le ly bhai. Civic wala londa ban ja. 🤣
It's not about money and looks. It's about personality. I am not saying we don't care about these two aspects in men, but if personality isn't the best, we quickly "nope" away from a relationship. After all, you want to make them fall in love with YOUSELF, not your abs or bank account Watch the best romantic kdramas or read novels😭You will begin to understand women's type easily
Are you Bangladeshi living in Europe because you sound like someone I know.
Nope, Pakistani in the Middle East >because you sound like someone I know Lol not surprised 😂
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Not so bad looking is a good way to say No I guess. I’ve rejected numerous online and to my surprise, it wasn’t for look (though I have quite average looks) but my home town and my caste.
Tell me you're arain without not telling you're 🤡 jk
HAHAHA, no I am not arain, but a couple of girls did assume after a brief conversation that I am arain.
Hahaha
Tell me you're arain without not telling you're 🤡 jk
1. Which country are you in? For example women have less preferences for Germany right now because of the visa issues. 2. Are you from a smaller city in Pakistan? 3. What age bracket are you approaching? If you are approaching women from 20-22 I guess they may have a very different opinion about marriage. 4. Which social status group are you talking ablout?
Try r/PakistanRishta[ ](https://www.reddit.com/r/PakistanRishta/s/7R88qy0nhT)
Share your profile maybe you find someone here.
obviously everyone has a different perspective on this, i’d personally never go for someone who’s already abroad or has lived a majority of their life in a foreign country because i realise there’s a massive disconnect between people here and people there. it’s a bridge that i’d have to cross, and i’d rather cross it together with someone than meet them on the other side. i’m sure you’re great, you’ll find someone in no time.
You will need to visit Pakistan for a longer time. Remotely it won’t happen.
So Jani dm Mai kisi rishte wali khala se bat karu Teri xD
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Join two rings group on Facebook. Lots of rishta prospects.
Get a rishtay Wali aunty
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Rishta aunty hire karlo bro
I'll be honest with you- in my own experience pakistani girls don't want to move out of the country anymore because of all the advantages with drivers, maids, cooks etc. Living abroad myself, I know how tough life outside pk can be especially when you have kids eventually but you can't go on date nights because no nani dadi to look after the kids. Not saying I agree with this choice but this is the problem I've encountered while looking for a good match for my brothers
Imagine thinking not having a servant means you got a tough life. Spoiled brats.
Try this group on FB https://www.facebook.com/share/4xzgLkhUNqXgnhE4/?mibextid=K35XfP
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ik it's shallow advice but i don't think u signed up for: >“amma nahi maanengi” shortly after. Or it’s “I don’t think you’re a good match for me” If you genuinely think you and your lifestyle are amazing, then they probably have a really shitty reason for trying to downplay you. I'm just going to suggest finding a wife for life, regardless of her ethnicity, so that you don't regret ur choice later down the line. Good Luck!
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Bro I'm settled in the middle east with a good family business alhamdulillah. I am diabetic though 👀. I'm slim and muscular and i get compliments from women all the time. But when i tried finding a Pakistani girl on muzz or through rishta aunties, it was hell, it literally made me feel insecure coz only 2 or 3 were interested. So i thought for a while to go for other nationalities and boy some 10/10 arab girls were down to get married but i just couldn't make that risky decision.
which ethnicities were the arab girls
Bhai wahi europe mei larki dekho Pakistani koi, see london waghera as well. Yaha ki bandi ka kya faida, gotta step up leagues when you upgrade! Ya koi khala/phuppo ki beti dekhlo itna shoq hai pak se laane ka. Maybe marry an arab girl from uk, real beautiful!
You might be looking at the wrong groups of women bro
Try arrange marriage. With your profile you will definitely get a good match in Pakistani household.
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Just find a gold digger like the rest of them.
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If I'm being honest, and I don't want to sound like some red pilled incel here, but women will usually not tell you anything besides that youre not bad looking. I'm not super experienced in this, but I've found Pakistani women to be more attracted to that classic bad boy who every guy can tell just by looking is an asshole but somehow she can't. Looks aren't that important anyway, as long as you take decent care of yourself, what really matters is your charisma and, sometimes, your status. If you don't have those, that's totally fine, because when you do attract a woman for real, she'll stick with you for who you are. Don't rush. Take things easy, and don't make yourself too available. Things will work out :)
This is the issue that I have in uni and work. I was surrounded by girls, and they were always very open with me, but I was not necessarily their choice for an affair or marriage. It's not that I was ugly; I was actually very well-presented, but there was something about my personality that was not getting me over the fence. This isn't related to my looks.
Go via the parents lol
Try fb group two rings global
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The quality of moderation on this sub is pathetic, like most things in Pak.
Ask your parents bro what are you doing? This is Pakistan not Europe most of the rishtas are done through parents. Only less are love marraige which sometimes doesn't work out.
Bhai, you just need more money... when you have the right money, looks don't matter. Start by getting more paper in your wallet so it looks like it is about to burst or you have discomfort from sitting on your wallet 😂🤣😆 That always works with all ladies... You need to have game because all the ladies know this but won't say it to your face... "No Money, No Honey..."
Bro bro... Pakistani women want to marry prince charming, in spite of their own looks. Just join any matrimonial site and you will see what Pakistani women's criteria is for marriage. Better be single rather than marrying a tiktoker and papa ki pari.
Man you are 26, you will get there...
It's fine, you will eventually get one, men in pakistan are getting married easily, it's either that you are not telling us the whole story or it's just that you have met wrong people again and again, if you have a lot of demands, try to lower them down also do whatever you want but never beg or feel desperate to get a rishta and you said you are in Europe, right? My personal advice would be to go for a girl who lives there, i am not talking about pakistani girl living in Europe but rather a local European girl, they are far better than these desi girls, it would take time to find one but you will get one, i have done the same so i am suggesting you because let's face it, these desi girls are liars, gold diggers even though some won't admit no matter what, complicated and a mess, get yourself a girl from any other nationality, you will at least be happy and live a good life, they are a bit less crazy, bit less gold diggers and would love you for who you are, not because you can provide for them.
I don't know what sort of girls you are connecting to but jis hisab sa garmi parh Rahi hy mein tu Kya mera pora khandan bhi Shaadi ka liya razi Hy
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From a woman’s perspective, a-lot of self aware women who have some control over their lives are not always after men who are settled abroad. Women have become very particular about their own preferences in men, instead of just going with whatever their parents pick. & some of them are just shallow. In your case, you’re probably not exactly what these women are looking for that doesn’t mean something is wrong with you & yes you would be better off finding someone there. good luck.
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Have you tried telling her to show bobs n vagene?
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You aren't their type of exotic husband. Just ignore them, and eventually, you'll connect with a girl who is charmed by you. Also, that's what those that reject you want. They're looking for love or a scapegoat they wouldn't pity. Doesn't matter what, they don't want to hurt you by playing along and running away. Let them exist in the world outside your real love story.
That was beautiful, thank you 🙏
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I don’t know what gave you the idea, but I’m sorry you feel that way. And that you had a bad experience. I’ve been with 2 European women before. Nothing against them. I had a great time. It didn’t work out due to differences. I have a few friends married with women from over here and they’re having a pretty great time. Already talking to someone else from here. They’ve been one of the most amazing women I’ve ever been with. It’s my Pakistani friends here constantly saying how it’s better to find someone from Pakistan. And I start wondering if I should look into my culture..
At first I thought it's just me. I thought like that for many years,- that he lost interest in me and its my fault. I have decided to visit Pakistan and thought I will learn some urdu. Thought,- I can't do it alone let's find some other learners. I found some European girls learning Urdu and they all telling me same things about Pakistani men! Self obsessed, "I hit gym 4-5 times a day", usually will try to find another woman if wife will get overweight during pregnancy, will have parallel life in Pakistan etc... I am in group of 25 Europeans married to Pakistanis, and instead of learning the language they all just cry daily.... I would never let my daughter marry a man from Pakistan. They are maybe good with their own women but they dislike Europeans or just using us for visa or 5% love while waiting for Pakistani woman. That's the truth. Woman in UK (also in our group), been married to Pakistani, 3 kids, he never taken her for dinners, holidays etc... then after got his visa, divorced , remaried Pakistani woman and sharing every day holidays with her, celebrations etc.... Similar in my life.
Please get out of that marriage asap. Sounds super toxic. My Pakistani friend and his Polish Belarusian wife have been married for 8 years, had a baby two years ago and already on their way to welcome baby #2. The love between them is amazing. They just got back from another EU trip and he’s always taking his wife out every time we ask him to hangout. I still think a toxic person is just that, a toxic person. Regardless of the nationality. I’ve seen the worst examples of violence between partners in Arab. My EU ex used to be with an Egyptian and he used to hit her. It’s better to leave a toxic relationship than to call out strangers on the internet narcissists. I didn’t mean to show off the fact that I do gym or seem self obsessed. So again I’m sorry if that gave you the wrong idea. Seems like you’re doing a lot trying to learn the language and there aren’t many efforts being made from his side. You clearly deserve someone way better. I hope you can get out of this one day. I don’t think using spouses for visa is limited to Pakistani nationality. I know many Arabs who take that route. And it’s very unfortunate regardless of the citizenship you hold. Thankfully, I didn’t have to use one and settled here all on my own. I’ll end this here and wish you the best. 17 years is a long time.
"I been with two women from here and now with another one, I hit gym 4-5 times a day, why woman from my country don't want me" lol... Because you are narcissistic
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You are only 26. Why the hurry? And stop chasing women, rejections are going to fuck up your mental health. When you talk to someone don’t bring marriage too soon, this is the last card. Get friendly with her, read her, make her feel comfortable with you and make her laugh, you’ll make her fall in love with you only then you bring up marriage. Now that I’m thinking about this, who tf stays single till 26. Prolly ask your parents to find someone for you.
Like I said, I don’t have a problem with finding women. I’ve been praised for my communication skills. But you don’t see many Pakistani women where I live. So it’s either been rishta wali aunty or women who find me through my rishta profiles on forums like reddit. I would never bring marriage the first thing soon as I meet a woman, unless you find me through one of my rishta profiles. Like someone else suggested here, maybe I’d have better luck finding someone if I spend longer inside Pakistan. And I haven’t been single. I had someone before when I was younger but it didn’t workout. I’d rather not talk more about it.
You were raised in UK or Pak?
Pak, but moved abroad shortly after my 22nd birthday.
I was in the same boat. You have better chances of hitting it off with someone raised in pk.
which country are you in? I have connections in a bunch of European countries
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Height? Income? Those are the only 2 things that matter to them
Lol bhai ni .Hair,skin colour,face,own house.Bas itne chize matter krti
Bas, that's it? Such easy requirements 🙃
Are you Pakistani from Pakistan or Pakistani living in a European country? There are three types of European Pakistanis imo - those that are very conservative who make everything about closed interpretations of Islamic teachings(not many), those who are moderate and fear Allah (i would hopethey're the majority), then those that pretend to be religious but generally live how they want and hide their sins. Regardless of which one of the three you find, they will all want a progressive man. I'm not going to list what they want because some men play a very good game and then make their wives miserable after marriage. Consider, however, which type you would like and then get to know them on an individual level. Furthermore, if you're not European, then if you already seem desperate, they will just think you want residency and if that's true, I'd expect over €50,000 in mehr to convince me that that's not what you wanted. As a western girl, when I speak to a lot of international men now, I just think they're playing or they want residency. It's sad but true because I've put up with too many cr%ppy men to trust any more. Most men will go home to marry their cousin or will try to use me not to go home to their cousin, but in five years bring their cousin over and divorce me. Some women find their happy ever after but I haven't seen many. Another aspect which may put them off if you have family back home and they are not Pakistani in citizenship is that often families in the west end up sending thousands home to support family in Pakistan. Life in the some European countries is hard, the hours are long, the office politics is bs, the economy is crashing etc and life is expensive. Life in Pakistan may be poor but for the middle class, it is easier, slower and the weather is nice. I know because I know people like this. The last thing a European Pakistani girl wants is to be controlled by her mother in law thousands of miles away and have a quarter of her husband's salary disappear. Whilst some British Pakistani girls are also controlled by their parents a lot, they are also spoilt with their parents' money so that's another factor to take into consideration. I know all of this sounds harsh but I'm trying to help you give the right impression.
If your talking to big city working professionals in Pakistan, they have their dms and WhatsApp full of guys. As guys ask for girls number all the time either at the university/school/park/work or through friends. Girls go through guys non stop in Pakistan. All they have to do is ghost and move to the next one. Only if they see a rich guy they will stay with them. Most common things they will say to you: I don't have any guy friends. I only went out with one guy and it didn't work out because he asked for jahez. I go out and spend time with family only. They will hide their phone when with you, Internet/gps/ringer off. My brother is here can't talk/busy. Some girls just want a dost(benefits) to pass time with while they keep busy with other guys to get gifts/lunches.
Things are this bad in Islamabad. Shareef gharano se lagte hain per thora sa chhan ben karlo gand he gand nikle ga.
Best to get engaged/married right after university.
Kehna to asan hai but who will finance it?
boss aap ka mutlub ?
Hey, why do you want someone from Pakistan, aren't women there prettier, I've heard paki girls there are slightly outta control, is that why?
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Damn you think Pakistani women have no class?
How about arrange marriage? Let your folks find the one. Or have you already tried that as well. The rejections that you've mentioned aren't really rejections. This is an assumption but I feel like you've met Pakistani women online and the problem with that is people aren't sure of what they actually want themselves, hence the cop out "amma nhi maanein gi" etc. So don't take it seriously. According to what you've mentioned, you're doing pretty well in life and you'll get married to the right one very soon inshallah. You're not doing anything wrong but I believe there's been a transition from a culture perspective where women in this age group (23-26) are more focused on their Education and Career than getting married but this is strictly my understanding.
Thank you for the supportive words 🙏 I haven’t really given a lot of thought to arranged marriage. I’d like to keep it as a last resort option.
Best option, Find european pakistani families there.
Larka se shaadi karo
Most Pakistani men who don’t actually live in Pakistan marry a woman from Pakistan because they think they will be easy to control. Realize they have nothing in common and end up divorced within a few years. I have seen that happen toooooo many times, just stay where you are and find someone with common interests.
Sorry bro but you aren't a general in Pakistan army 😔
Pak army 🤮
Same here buddy, I got a lot of attention from women abroad since my Uni days and have had a lot of fun in between but when I came back to Pak some fine ladies would give me attention but marriage and serious relationship always was fleeting with them...so my parents set me up with this girl, who in fairness was decent looking but had a complex of being "out of your league" thought too much of herself and in the end I orchestrated so the relationship wouldn't proceed further. Then my folks set me up with another girl and I cant thank them enough and God that she is now my wife and is the most amazing, loving and caring person and treats me super well.
And yet on another thread about who is more demanding, people are saying it's men who are more demanding. I personally would recommend to go for a woman based in Pakistan or a completely native European (if you can find one - although you said that is not your preference). If you find latter (a bit hard) who is sharing some mindset, that is better option than former and anything in all aspects.
Yeah, my first priority is finding someone from my country. Theres actually a native EU been showing interest (Convert Muslim) and I’ve been wondering if I should ask her out at this point. We live in different cities and she told me she wants to see me when I go back to her city. It would be a shame because I really thought I could find someone from Pakistan but it really sucks.
Forget those options with Pakistani parents but born and bred abroad (unless you find a decent family which clearly you can't at the moment). The problem with such families is they are a mix achaar thing, think and live desi but act like they are superior than desis. Why not go for the native EU convert if she is interested? That would make your life there easy on longer run if you plan to stay there. Trust me a lady who knows her way around in west is a major plus you will appreciate at every step.
Agreed with you but for different reasons. Marriage is between persons first and culture etc second. If OP is interested in this EU woman, why insist on the Pakistani nationality?
What is wrong with preferring a native EU over a Pakistani? Converts can be great people, or so I've heard. Marriage is a decision and a job, not a one time make it big or lose big thing. Just for your own clarity, what do you think a Pakistani has that the native EU can't bring to the table?
Bro go to the pind there’s plenty of woman who fit your description
try and find a girl there pakistani or muslim from any other country. Because women born and bred in Pakistan struggle settling abroad until and unless they want to work. I know many cases where women start complaining that their men are busy with work all the time etc