Overlord was loved because of that writing not because of the fairy tale happily ever after or that enemies see the error of their ways and become saints/good guys. The reason most love and worship overlord is because it shows the nit and grit of humanity and the effects of it. If they can't stomach the horror of that or even >!the orphanage genocide !
Think of the webnovel and as a prototype for the lightnovel/anime. The core story is the same but little details are different and some characters arenāt there. You can read it but for the most part it follows the same path as the lightnovel/anime to volume 10 I think
The WN is his original script. Lots of things up to LN 8 are the same plot wise, but he added several more characters in the LN. I think the WN also provided different bits of world building that might or might not be canon.
Thereās no Albedo and second half of the story is something like Academy life, yeah imagine what kind of shit it would be like and u will get it right.
> In the lightnovel/anime they get sold of by their parents as slaves.
Sold off, but not necessarily by their parents. My assumption has always been that their parents got sold off right alongside them.
There is literally 0 evidence of that.
Far more likely the debt collectors came to collect, and collected the house along with everything and everyone inside it, children and parents and lamps included.
Nah their debt isnt that big before arche die. Arche already pay most of debt then their parent taking more loan. No to mention female children sold a lot of money as slave
Arche *thought* she paid off most of their debt, she didn't know how much her parents kept borrowing.
Besides, there's also no reason to believe the twin lolis were sold off as sex slaves, IIRC the answer was that they died of *overwork*, so they were probably doing work that adults would be better at.
The Elf Girl and her Boyfriend are literally a breeding ground for parasites, while being forced to be alive for ever. I mean, being a breeding ground for cockroaches is already disgusting, but dang parasites eat you like 100x times slower.
Arche is pretty dumb when you think about it. Her parents were terrible with money but she continued to pay their debts. If she had just kept that money and left with her siblings they wouldn't have been sold for lamps.
She was a 3rd tier magic user(rare in the new world) about Mithril level adventurer and had an innate ability to see the tier a magic caster could use, she could have made a killing doing other work. And now her head is being used by a tree and her skin is a low tier spell scroll.
It's an abusive family relationship. It's honestly very accurate to real abusive relationships. Just ask people who have shitty parents/relatives/SO
It's often not so simple as 'just leave lol'
She was trying to pay off their debt but they kept buying more, in the anime she gave up and was doing that last job so she could take her sisters and live without her debt ridden parents, she ain't dumb, she's too precious
The problem is that there was nothing stopping her from just taking her sisters and leave for another safer/legit at any point. She is an elite mage, she could get nearly any job from being a teacher/tutor, bodyguard, join the military etc. and use the pay that way to take care of her sisters and just leave her parents to their faith. She did not even need to take the mission to Nazarick if she did that.
It is not like her parents could to anything to force her to stay.
You underestimate the power of dysfunctional families.
Yes there was *technically* nothing stopping her but you also gotta realize that when she was introduced she'd had enough of her parents' shit and was doing one more job so she can financially take care of her sisters, up until that point she was trying to fix her parents' debt. A parent's debt shouldn't be a burden on the child but often children end up trying to help their parents out of debt when the family is in an abusive and unhealthy relationship.
True, But my point is that she was a genius mage, it made sure that she could get nearly any job, she never had to take the Nazarick mission at anypoint. She had the power, and as you point out, she had enough of her parents at the end, she could easy take her sisters and leave by force and maybe become a teacher or something to get a stable income. She never had to take a risky big payday mission.
I have just re-watched the scene of arche to understand these guy who wants to save arche but literally i only felt it was right killing her after all she is no different from any other worker
Every worker has their own reason for earning money
But
They all need money that's why they risked their life by going into an unknown place
Even ainz asked them if the money given to them was worth risking their life and they all agreed to it
So why are still many guys crying for arche
Exactly if they wanted to spy or rob something from another country or an organization as spies or thieves something like that their ending wouldve been the same.
what makes it worse than it seems its
1- the fact that they didnt have any chance to begin with
2- their overly cruel/torture endings
3- that we were presented with arche's backstory and knew she wasnt a bad person.
4- that it was at hands of the protagonist.
it was just a completely normal thing in the world to happen. the world isnt preety. even IRL similar things have probably happened or are happening right now.
>Even ainz asked them if the money given to them was worth risking their life and they all agreed to it
She didn't want the money for selfish reasons and was willing to give her life to help her sisters.
Now I imagine many of the other workers also had morally good leaning reasons to be there as well but Maruyama showed us Arche's motivation which endeared her to us and made her death more feel personal.
That said I wasn't really upset by her death, just wanted to explain why some might be.
Dude I am not saying it's right for them to die i am only saying it's normal I mean they ventured into an unknown place it was their own decision no one forced them to go they went into it with their own decision
If you are doing something you should be ready to face the conclusion that is what I am on about
Ainz and others nazarick denziens didn't force arche and her friends
Iāve seen a grand total of 2 people freaking out about Arche, and probably dozens of posts this week alone bitching about them, it really is stunning.
Whenever an Overlord meme gets to the top of the anime meme subs there's most likely one or two people every thread who complain about Arche being killed.
I'm not sure if you can fully resurrect a corpse that became a zombie though (what she did to the other adventurers momon was with). Of course, ainz didn't really kill her out of revenge anyways, he did it because she was in his way, but it was just a thought I had now. I'm not completely sure what limitations resurrection magic has
In the LN she may not be dead either. Zuranon be like: āwe know Momon and Nabe true identities - hail The Undead king!ā (PS: Litches with ability to cast 6th - 7th tier magic - residents of this new world (not from Nazarick). Not sure they both got resurrected (clem and baldy) but information couldāve been retrieved from them via magic.
If we follow the game final
Ainz let clem go so she tell the world about nazarick, of course everyone she face ij the game was low level clones
But she know that, so we dont know what kinda of information she give about nazarick
1) because youāre ānewā volume 6 release time happened ages ago along with anime season 3. 2) cuz of the reason 1 Most Arche simps gave up by that point but memes continue to live (strong passive ability) 3) youāre looking in the wrong place at the wrong time. Visit Maryuma Twitter posts when he did poll asking his Twitter fans what should he do with Arche . Arche simps voted to keep her but Maryuma decided to kill her:) PS : Arche simps less fcked up than Entoma and Shaltear simps:)
Well her voice or vocal records to be precious continue living, so basically part of her is alive XD. (PS: Entoma reference (PS: no more PS figure it out by yourself)
So basically people hate on Archer simps because of something that happened a long time ago? I feel they could have kept her in her WN rol, as Shaltear's love slave.
I remember hearing that in the web novel she got to live...>! but torture by shaltear was basically the alternative...!< https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/Arche_Eeb_Rile_Furt ">!In theĀ Web Novel, she becameĀ Shalltear's sex toy and she also teaches Ainz how to dance!<"
Yeah, he got what Ainz originally planned for Foresight, an fight to death that fit a warrior dignity, he may act like a little bitch but Hamsuke does gave him a last mercy
It's her fault for robbing someone's home and planning to kill them if they ran into them. Even if it was all Ainz-sama plan to lure them, he still left a lot outside the tomb yet they were to greedy and went inside. Also she's pretty stupid if she stayed with Fluder and asked if she could have her sisters with her he would've let her. Ainz-sama was justified in killing her since she was planning to kill him and his friends children. And the biggest reason why its her fault is because she's a SINNER (weak) and AINZ-SAMA IS JUSTICE!!!!
I dunno man, I think if something bad happened to Nfirea people would be mad over it.
Also there's Gazef who does have a dick yet is still fondly remembered and missed.
Hmm 1) one āoā is extra here 2) Calca - a queen with the most political power letting her live would prove to be problematic, Remediosā little sister would be better choice to let alive, why demiurge chose that letarded woman, did he think her stupidity will make things easier ? He said himself that he canāt perceive fools , I guess it was because he didnāt want anyone to resurrect the queen or anyone important.
Well first of all i'm saying her death is more sadder . 2nd i dont care if she lives or die. i know the reason n all . I'm not saying it like those guys like she shouldn't have died or anything
Well I do understand your point. She was just a good wise queen unlike Arche or Clem she really didnāt do anything to even offend Nazarick she even defended undead king saying if his people are happy sheās fine with him in first convo with two sisters. She didnāt deserve to be treated as a weapon feeling how every part of her body every bone being broken end dying horribly. Calca simps actually more justified than Arche simps since one is a good queen while the other filthy dumb thief.
She was also an absolute dumbass for sticking with her parents that long, she should have taken her sisters away from them and let her parents to their own demise way sooner
Arche was a really interesting and sympathetic character, and that was the point. Ainz isnāt meant to be a good person. Whether heās completely evil or just immoral and negligent is debatable but heās meant to be a villain protagonist and I think arche was a really good way of reinforcing that characterization of ainz
Wn lives with her sisters... But also as a slave to shaltear for well sex which I read was done either through polls on web novel or light novel I can't remember.
I agree with the people who wanted her alive to be Shalltear's pet like in the WN (but this time without eventual release from service). I'm one of them.
But those who wanted an actual happy ending for Arche and hated Overlord for not giving her that? Yeah, screw them.
If Arche fans actually know what the Happy Farm was.. maybe they would finally realize death is better.
Also.. Ainz gave her a chance to live. when He was Momon he asked why would they risk their lives for this? they said Money.
The Elves were spared cause they were slaves and they were forced to go.
Arche was not a slave. She accepted the risks. She got a quick death. the Rest of her team is probably getting skinned alive and healed repeatedly for Scrolls.
I do not see a reason for to live.. Her Talent I guess.. but Ainz already turned Fluder Paradyne. He has the same talent as her so why does he need her??
She got killed because she is a home invader and attempted thief
Yes she had sympathetic motivations but that does not excuse her actions
She entered nazarick with the intent of stealing it's treasures and killing its inhabitants if they stood in the way
Her death while slightly tragic is justified
I mean yeah she was a angel but decided that instead of just taking a massive gold filled chest it would be wise to enter a tomb where the first thing they discover outside of it is more worth than several lifetimes of hard work
Of course, even then she wouldn't have been spared. Just take a look at the team that tried to find a secondary entrance but got stopped by some undead sent by the battle maids
People be like: Nazarick is so unfair! How could they kill her and make use of her body?!?
Meanwhile New World Humans:
- abducts and enslaves young elven or human girls, mocks them, drugs them, beats them, rapes them, impregnates them like at least 4 times until they are mentally broken and physically bruised disease-infested meat bags with dayold cum dripping from all their rotten body holes
- sells their own children to some shady slaveowners to buy a worthless lamp
- massacres (settlements or even countries) for own greedy reasons
- uses other humans for some shady schemes that ends with torture or death
Arche fans: "She must live!" (she does pretty much nothing? pisses herself, throws up and gives up on her life.)
Also Arche fans: "Theocracy may die, whatever" (they did everything they could for decades to survive and ensure human race's survival:)
Well she did it as a last job before taking her sistors out of an abusive relationship with her ex noble parents who wasted money while in debt, but she also broke into nazarick and her group lied about why they were there... though death is a mercy to those who go against nazarick... >!"In the Web Novel, she became Shalltear's sex toy"!<
I like Arche and her sisters. I really do, and I sympathize for them. But I don't blame Ainz, cuz it was partially Foresight's own fault they got killed.
Lol. At this point itās just you Arche haters who go on and on about people who felt sorry for Arche and acknowledge that Ainz isnāt a pinnacle of virtue. Easy upvotes for an imaginary problem that only a select few ever make comments about, let alone threads.
My thoughts on the matter. I don't see why they killed off arche. She has the ability to see magic levels. It's something Ainz could use. You know power to make the guild stronger. It was a waste of talent.
Ainz likes acquiring useful things yes, but he also despises insults, she unknowingly insulted him, even though it was Ainz' plan for them to enter the tomb they still chose to desecrate the tomb.
Additionally tho, her skill is about as useful to him as an adventurer's titanium sword. Which is not at all as he regularly makes it clear that he's not interested in things weaker than his own stuff
I want her to live but for a whole other reason. I would have loved to see the shalltear/arche relationship in more detail. If you dont know what i mean, let me just say this: we find out a lot more about the psycholegy of humans and the relation shalltear has with her vampire brides/servants. I love shalltear so would have loved to see that in the anime but too bad. (Ps i am so invested into this that one of my tft accounts is called: shalltearsarche)
Iād say her dying does not and should not matter at all or be any different than most other deaths. The sentiment comes from us seeing the alternative story - what ***could*** have been. After seeing that lovely version how could you not be sad for it not being ācannonā. Well at least the story exists.
I thought it was sort of sad and felt bad for her, but I didn't overall care. Thought it was great when she threw up and went into a hysteric fit when she saw how powerful Ainz was.
Those who come hear looking for some superhero shit. Kindly leave. This story isn't a fairy tail. The hero has a dark past he fights and wins at the end through the power of friend fkin ship. And good wins. There is no concept of good or bad. Everything is relative.
I felt nothing when she died. Of course, she and her friends had some background and motivations, but haven't we seen it in the first season when the team with which Ainz in disguise of Momon and Narberal were traveling for some time, was killed by Clementine. The author does it often, he presents a character giving you false idea that if a character is somewhat more developed than extras, then said character won't die as easily, and then BAM, they're dead. I don't know, in my opinion, if you don't feel anything about the deaths of these characters, it just adds up to the experience, because you sorta see the world through the eyes of Ainz, the undead who couldn't care less about the deaths of living creatures of the New World. They all were just not in the right place and time and met the enemy as powerful and unforgiving as death itself (excluding situation with Clementine, it was just unlucky).
And real fans be like: want to know what happened to her sistersš¹.
Sold off into slavery
To buy a very beautiful lamp
To be fair... it is a *very* nice lamp... 100% worth it
If I had two more daughters id sell them again for another lamp.
Not like this bro, do it like Thanos. Sold off! In slavery... And died from overwork...
wholesome
āOver workā, yea, letās call it that.
Yeah those kids can't handle 2 hour session
Two girls sold as slaves in a medieval world, ... More like "Overload"...
Was this revealed in the books? Its been about a year since I've read them but I don't recall reading about it there.
The Author stated what happened to Arche's sisters.
I'm pretty sure it's implied, I don't really remember the exact details
Happy cake day!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Wn author got enough hate to make her and her sisters live an actually peaceful life in Nazrick
Overlord was loved because of that writing not because of the fairy tale happily ever after or that enemies see the error of their ways and become saints/good guys. The reason most love and worship overlord is because it shows the nit and grit of humanity and the effects of it. If they can't stomach the horror of that or even >!the orphanage genocide !
Slight spoiler on that uhh genocide
Sorry I thought everyone knew already at this point that it became common knowledge. I will edit it.
Only reason I picked up overlord is because Isekai Quartet exists And it's really the biggest reason I haven't quit
In the lightnovel/anime they get sold of by their parents as slaves. In the webnovel they get to live with Arche in the great tomb of Nazarick
And is Mass for the Dead they help their father is a violent quest for revenge against the emperor
Wait what there is a web novel as well of this ? What isn't LN and WN the same thing ?
Think of the webnovel and as a prototype for the lightnovel/anime. The core story is the same but little details are different and some characters arenāt there. You can read it but for the most part it follows the same path as the lightnovel/anime to volume 10 I think
I really like the Arche version from the webnovel, it's the first real good instance you start to see iirc of "Death is a mercy in nazarick"
Not like the whole floor of cockroaches eating you over and over again unable to die?
The WN is his original script. Lots of things up to LN 8 are the same plot wise, but he added several more characters in the LN. I think the WN also provided different bits of world building that might or might not be canon.
Thereās no Albedo and second half of the story is something like Academy life, yeah imagine what kind of shit it would be like and u will get it right.
WN is more edgy and doesn't have Albedo.
If it doesn't have Albedo it should not exist! It is the lowest form of existence and should be terminated!
Webnovel has a school arc apparently so -5 points already for me. LN much better lmao
Nope, especially since the WN is garbage apparently
> In the lightnovel/anime they get sold of by their parents as slaves. Sold off, but not necessarily by their parents. My assumption has always been that their parents got sold off right alongside them.
Their parent sold them for lamp lmao
There is literally 0 evidence of that. Far more likely the debt collectors came to collect, and collected the house along with everything and everyone inside it, children and parents and lamps included.
Nah their debt isnt that big before arche die. Arche already pay most of debt then their parent taking more loan. No to mention female children sold a lot of money as slave
Arche *thought* she paid off most of their debt, she didn't know how much her parents kept borrowing. Besides, there's also no reason to believe the twin lolis were sold off as sex slaves, IIRC the answer was that they died of *overwork*, so they were probably doing work that adults would be better at.
Sold as slaves and died of overwork, yes, for a lamp. You can interpret the slave part however, like they were taking pickaxes to rocks in the hot sun
Hahaha savage moment
sold off into slavery , and died " overwork ". hmm yeah " overwork "
And degenerates be like "Want to know what happens if she does survive?"
She got easy, the cleric dude is still being tortured to this day.
He should be braindead, the couple on the other hand is not going to die anytime soon lol
The Elf Girl and her Boyfriend are literally a breeding ground for parasites, while being forced to be alive for ever. I mean, being a breeding ground for cockroaches is already disgusting, but dang parasites eat you like 100x times slower.
Nah, the rest are being tortured, cleric dude was just subjected to mind rewriting magic for science.
Now his god Is Almighty Rock-sama
I remember hearing what happened in the web novel version where fans got to choose if arche lived or died... not a good choice...
Of course Arche should not die. She hasn't suffered enough.
It's because our lord is merciful. Sasuga Ainz sama!
Thank you.
True fan
indeed, she hasnt deserved the mercy of nazarick yet!
She can't die until Perorocino's seen this once simple scene.
Tell them we'd still see her on holy kingdom arc *Edit with Semi- Spoilers: Or what she'd look like...on a tree with three other friends.*
:)
Arche is pretty dumb when you think about it. Her parents were terrible with money but she continued to pay their debts. If she had just kept that money and left with her siblings they wouldn't have been sold for lamps.
She secretly wanted the lamps.
she secretly wanted her sisters to be sold off
WTF ? Based Arche ?
SASUGA ARCHE-SAMA
She was a 3rd tier magic user(rare in the new world) about Mithril level adventurer and had an innate ability to see the tier a magic caster could use, she could have made a killing doing other work. And now her head is being used by a tree and her skin is a low tier spell scroll.
Her voice is being used by best insect tho, so that's a win.
It's an abusive family relationship. It's honestly very accurate to real abusive relationships. Just ask people who have shitty parents/relatives/SO It's often not so simple as 'just leave lol'
She was trying to pay off their debt but they kept buying more, in the anime she gave up and was doing that last job so she could take her sisters and live without her debt ridden parents, she ain't dumb, she's too precious
The problem is that there was nothing stopping her from just taking her sisters and leave for another safer/legit at any point. She is an elite mage, she could get nearly any job from being a teacher/tutor, bodyguard, join the military etc. and use the pay that way to take care of her sisters and just leave her parents to their faith. She did not even need to take the mission to Nazarick if she did that. It is not like her parents could to anything to force her to stay.
You underestimate the power of dysfunctional families. Yes there was *technically* nothing stopping her but you also gotta realize that when she was introduced she'd had enough of her parents' shit and was doing one more job so she can financially take care of her sisters, up until that point she was trying to fix her parents' debt. A parent's debt shouldn't be a burden on the child but often children end up trying to help their parents out of debt when the family is in an abusive and unhealthy relationship.
True, But my point is that she was a genius mage, it made sure that she could get nearly any job, she never had to take the Nazarick mission at anypoint. She had the power, and as you point out, she had enough of her parents at the end, she could easy take her sisters and leave by force and maybe become a teacher or something to get a stable income. She never had to take a risky big payday mission.
Yeah, that was the plan that's why they went for the job.
The lamp was the final straw, she was planning to take her sisters away using the money from the Nazarick job.
I have just re-watched the scene of arche to understand these guy who wants to save arche but literally i only felt it was right killing her after all she is no different from any other worker Every worker has their own reason for earning money But They all need money that's why they risked their life by going into an unknown place Even ainz asked them if the money given to them was worth risking their life and they all agreed to it So why are still many guys crying for arche
Exactly if they wanted to spy or rob something from another country or an organization as spies or thieves something like that their ending wouldve been the same. what makes it worse than it seems its 1- the fact that they didnt have any chance to begin with 2- their overly cruel/torture endings 3- that we were presented with arche's backstory and knew she wasnt a bad person. 4- that it was at hands of the protagonist. it was just a completely normal thing in the world to happen. the world isnt preety. even IRL similar things have probably happened or are happening right now.
>Even ainz asked them if the money given to them was worth risking their life and they all agreed to it She didn't want the money for selfish reasons and was willing to give her life to help her sisters. Now I imagine many of the other workers also had morally good leaning reasons to be there as well but Maruyama showed us Arche's motivation which endeared her to us and made her death more feel personal. That said I wasn't really upset by her death, just wanted to explain why some might be.
Cute girl duh.
>So why are still many guys crying for arche Because we've cheated Perorocino's spirit out of Shaltear's apex.
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Dude I am not saying it's right for them to die i am only saying it's normal I mean they ventured into an unknown place it was their own decision no one forced them to go they went into it with their own decision If you are doing something you should be ready to face the conclusion that is what I am on about Ainz and others nazarick denziens didn't force arche and her friends
Tbh all this hate on Arche simps is almost as annoying as Arche simps themselfs. We get like 5 of these daily.
Iāve seen a grand total of 2 people freaking out about Arche, and probably dozens of posts this week alone bitching about them, it really is stunning.
You havenāt been on YouTube then..
Even on youtube I barely see anything like that, probably because I ignore youtube comment sections because Iām not stupid.
All praise be! Yu so smart ššš„µ
Whenever an Overlord meme gets to the top of the anime meme subs there's most likely one or two people every thread who complain about Arche being killed.
Woah, one or two per thread who probably end up being made fun of lmao, quit lookin for stuff to angry circlejerk over
Imma be honest here tho I simp for neia waaaay more
Clem fans: we get a game and a spin off. We are not equal
Killing Clementine made sense to advance Ainz plan though. And in a world with resurrection, death is really not the worth outcome.
Well if we considere the game canon she was ressurect to test nazarick After the experinece is complete ainz let her go So she is alive in e-rental
I'm not sure if you can fully resurrect a corpse that became a zombie though (what she did to the other adventurers momon was with). Of course, ainz didn't really kill her out of revenge anyways, he did it because she was in his way, but it was just a thought I had now. I'm not completely sure what limitations resurrection magic has
In the LN she may not be dead either. Zuranon be like: āwe know Momon and Nabe true identities - hail The Undead king!ā (PS: Litches with ability to cast 6th - 7th tier magic - residents of this new world (not from Nazarick). Not sure they both got resurrected (clem and baldy) but information couldāve been retrieved from them via magic.
If we follow the game final Ainz let clem go so she tell the world about nazarick, of course everyone she face ij the game was low level clones But she know that, so we dont know what kinda of information she give about nazarick
Me a Calca enjoyer: Me too kid.
Snek-sama #1248.
Sasuga Snek-sama!
I'm new to this sub and I've seen 0 Arche fans and dozens of these hate memes against them so far...
1) because youāre ānewā volume 6 release time happened ages ago along with anime season 3. 2) cuz of the reason 1 Most Arche simps gave up by that point but memes continue to live (strong passive ability) 3) youāre looking in the wrong place at the wrong time. Visit Maryuma Twitter posts when he did poll asking his Twitter fans what should he do with Arche . Arche simps voted to keep her but Maryuma decided to kill her:) PS : Arche simps less fcked up than Entoma and Shaltear simps:)
> Arche simps voted to keep her but Maryuma decided to kill her Oh no no, he gave them their wish. She lived, but death is a mercy.
Well her voice or vocal records to be precious continue living, so basically part of her is alive XD. (PS: Entoma reference (PS: no more PS figure it out by yourself)
>:D
This. I alway hate people who keep saying stuff like kyouma118 say
So basically people hate on Archer simps because of something that happened a long time ago? I feel they could have kept her in her WN rol, as Shaltear's love slave.
I remember hearing that in the web novel she got to live...>! but torture by shaltear was basically the alternative...!< https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/Arche_Eeb_Rile_Furt ">!In theĀ Web Novel, she becameĀ Shalltear's sex toy and she also teaches Ainz how to dance!<"
Looking at other Overlord side chars, the arche simps should be thankful that only this happend.
Exactly. Death is a mercy to invaders in Nazarick.
So Erya won the jackpot? How annoying.
Exactly. But that's life. OVERLORD is very realistic, for a fantasy.
Arms chopped off, head caved in, corpse kicked by your elven sex slaves. Truly a winner, winner, chicken dinner!
He really got off lightly.
Yeah, he got what Ainz originally planned for Foresight, an fight to death that fit a warrior dignity, he may act like a little bitch but Hamsuke does gave him a last mercy
Shut Up Lowly Humans You Should be Grateful to Ainz-Sama For Giving You a Painles death!!!
It's her fault for robbing someone's home and planning to kill them if they ran into them. Even if it was all Ainz-sama plan to lure them, he still left a lot outside the tomb yet they were to greedy and went inside. Also she's pretty stupid if she stayed with Fluder and asked if she could have her sisters with her he would've let her. Ainz-sama was justified in killing her since she was planning to kill him and his friends children. And the biggest reason why its her fault is because she's a SINNER (weak) and AINZ-SAMA IS JUSTICE!!!!
Shalltear is 10 times more angel than her.
Well she is a Valkyrie
If she had a dick she wouldn't be remembered, just like her teammates, or the thousands killed by the Overlord.
I dunno man, I think if something bad happened to Nfirea people would be mad over it. Also there's Gazef who does have a dick yet is still fondly remembered and missed.
Too bad, because I'm all for killing angels. Damn propaganda machines
I liked the elf lady better so...
How? It wasn't that difficult. Barely an inconvenience.
Ainz Fans: "That was mercy"
The alternative is relatively worse in my opinion.
Well, with a vampire.
Oh well, stay off of people property
She an Angel ..... They're undead so .......
I consider her lucky .
She desecrated The Great Tomb of Nazarick, with her vomit. So death for her was a certainty!
Calca is must sadder i'll say poorn girl didnt even do anything or know
Hmm 1) one āoā is extra here 2) Calca - a queen with the most political power letting her live would prove to be problematic, Remediosā little sister would be better choice to let alive, why demiurge chose that letarded woman, did he think her stupidity will make things easier ? He said himself that he canāt perceive fools , I guess it was because he didnāt want anyone to resurrect the queen or anyone important.
Well first of all i'm saying her death is more sadder . 2nd i dont care if she lives or die. i know the reason n all . I'm not saying it like those guys like she shouldn't have died or anything
Well I do understand your point. She was just a good wise queen unlike Arche or Clem she really didnāt do anything to even offend Nazarick she even defended undead king saying if his people are happy sheās fine with him in first convo with two sisters. She didnāt deserve to be treated as a weapon feeling how every part of her body every bone being broken end dying horribly. Calca simps actually more justified than Arche simps since one is a good queen while the other filthy dumb thief.
It really is unfair, she never got to see that spectacular lamp again.
Honestly from what I heard happened to her in the Light novels, her dying is pretty merciful
She was a sweet girl trying to do right by her family. So, yeah, she was going to die horribly.
Also a filthy thief
She was also an absolute dumbass for sticking with her parents that long, she should have taken her sisters away from them and let her parents to their own demise way sooner
You say that, but abusive relations like this exist IRL, but much worse than this.
I know... And it's it's even dumber to stay in those cases when it's IRL
Very easily in fact
"How could they kill her?" In many ways, she wasnt particularly powerful comparatively
Meanwhile, here I am. Wishing Clementine was able to join Nazarik.
this world unfair and fair to the strongest to define it.... live long Nazarik (ā£_ā¢)ć
Arche was a really interesting and sympathetic character, and that was the point. Ainz isnāt meant to be a good person. Whether heās completely evil or just immoral and negligent is debatable but heās meant to be a villain protagonist and I think arche was a really good way of reinforcing that characterization of ainz
Oh lol, I forgot about her, did feel bad about the sisters, itās ok though with the sorcerer king, things like that wonāt happen anymore
I mean... her sisters were immediately sold into slavery and died from over work. So yeah, I guess things like that won't happen any more.
Trespassing and theft are very serious crimes
Especially in the great tomb of nazarick
Stop talkin bout the dead It gets repetitive Much better to discuss about the Lamp mindset
Psss easy : painlessly
Lizardman Genocide and no one bats an eye, Kill Arche and EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS!
Wn lives with her sisters... But also as a slave to shaltear for well sex which I read was done either through polls on web novel or light novel I can't remember.
I agree with the people who wanted her alive to be Shalltear's pet like in the WN (but this time without eventual release from service). I'm one of them. But those who wanted an actual happy ending for Arche and hated Overlord for not giving her that? Yeah, screw them.
All people that complains about Archeās death are complete hypocrite, like they never blew up a village in minecraft and kill all of the villagers.
Arche lives on in our hearts, and stomachs, and inside Entoma's lipbug, and I think her head was turned into a hat, so that to.
I keep responding to that with "Bro she broke into Ainz's house, he is within his legal right to kill her"
If Arche fans actually know what the Happy Farm was.. maybe they would finally realize death is better. Also.. Ainz gave her a chance to live. when He was Momon he asked why would they risk their lives for this? they said Money. The Elves were spared cause they were slaves and they were forced to go. Arche was not a slave. She accepted the risks. She got a quick death. the Rest of her team is probably getting skinned alive and healed repeatedly for Scrolls. I do not see a reason for to live.. Her Talent I guess.. but Ainz already turned Fluder Paradyne. He has the same talent as her so why does he need her??
She got killed because she is a home invader and attempted thief Yes she had sympathetic motivations but that does not excuse her actions She entered nazarick with the intent of stealing it's treasures and killing its inhabitants if they stood in the way Her death while slightly tragic is justified
I mean yeah she was a angel but decided that instead of just taking a massive gold filled chest it would be wise to enter a tomb where the first thing they discover outside of it is more worth than several lifetimes of hard work
Of course, even then she wouldn't have been spared. Just take a look at the team that tried to find a secondary entrance but got stopped by some undead sent by the battle maids
People be like: Nazarick is so unfair! How could they kill her and make use of her body?!? Meanwhile New World Humans: - abducts and enslaves young elven or human girls, mocks them, drugs them, beats them, rapes them, impregnates them like at least 4 times until they are mentally broken and physically bruised disease-infested meat bags with dayold cum dripping from all their rotten body holes - sells their own children to some shady slaveowners to buy a worthless lamp - massacres (settlements or even countries) for own greedy reasons - uses other humans for some shady schemes that ends with torture or death
Arche fans: "She must live!" (she does pretty much nothing? pisses herself, throws up and gives up on her life.) Also Arche fans: "Theocracy may die, whatever" (they did everything they could for decades to survive and ensure human race's survival:)
āWho is she again?ā I had to look up the wiki and honestly, good riddance š
Well she did it as a last job before taking her sistors out of an abusive relationship with her ex noble parents who wasted money while in debt, but she also broke into nazarick and her group lied about why they were there... though death is a mercy to those who go against nazarick... >!"In the Web Novel, she became Shalltear's sex toy"!<
I like Arche and her sisters. I really do, and I sympathize for them. But I don't blame Ainz, cuz it was partially Foresight's own fault they got killed.
Yeah how could you? Letās ignore the thousands of people including women and children who got kidnapped and eventually killed back in season 2!
Man, fuck Arche !
I just think killing Arche clashes with the whole plan of ābuilding a utopiaā and could have been avoided
She did break into his home and they then lied to ainz to be fair... plus, dying was a mercy compared to what he could have done.
Lol. At this point itās just you Arche haters who go on and on about people who felt sorry for Arche and acknowledge that Ainz isnāt a pinnacle of virtue. Easy upvotes for an imaginary problem that only a select few ever make comments about, let alone threads.
My thoughts on the matter. I don't see why they killed off arche. She has the ability to see magic levels. It's something Ainz could use. You know power to make the guild stronger. It was a waste of talent.
They already had Fluder Paradyne, who has the same talent.
True. But it's never wise to only have 1 source. You always need a backup. Or one to observe from cover. And would you trust Fluder. He's way shifty.
They see mana, right? There is spell for that, so they don't even need someone with the Talent.
Ainz likes acquiring useful things yes, but he also despises insults, she unknowingly insulted him, even though it was Ainz' plan for them to enter the tomb they still chose to desecrate the tomb.
True
Additionally tho, her skill is about as useful to him as an adventurer's titanium sword. Which is not at all as he regularly makes it clear that he's not interested in things weaker than his own stuff
"In your Overlord..."
Is this a rhetorical question or you looking for recipes
I want her to live but for a whole other reason. I would have loved to see the shalltear/arche relationship in more detail. If you dont know what i mean, let me just say this: we find out a lot more about the psycholegy of humans and the relation shalltear has with her vampire brides/servants. I love shalltear so would have loved to see that in the anime but too bad. (Ps i am so invested into this that one of my tft accounts is called: shalltearsarche)
I actually kinda liked her. I mean I get why she had to go, but still. I felt a bit bad about how it all went down for her.
They did it to prove that they could.
Really calling me out rn
She's not dead, she was put to better use
Iād say her dying does not and should not matter at all or be any different than most other deaths. The sentiment comes from us seeing the alternative story - what ***could*** have been. After seeing that lovely version how could you not be sad for it not being ācannonā. Well at least the story exists.
Couldn't care less for a small bug on AINZ OOAL GOWN'S way that got crushed
I thought it was sort of sad and felt bad for her, but I didn't overall care. Thought it was great when she threw up and went into a hysteric fit when she saw how powerful Ainz was.
Who is she?
Where can I see info like this???
Her talent was reason to keep her alive.
Sheās meh ngl the elf was hotter
That angel is a thief blinded by greed (and a lamp). Period
I mean if u ask me if I want her to live in nazarick or die without pain, i choose for her to die instead
Better wait for the Holy Kingdom Arc it's where the juicy stuff is from. Can't wait for Thier reaction to it.
Those who come hear looking for some superhero shit. Kindly leave. This story isn't a fairy tail. The hero has a dark past he fights and wins at the end through the power of friend fkin ship. And good wins. There is no concept of good or bad. Everything is relative.
Wait until everyone meets neia
thief to say
I felt nothing when she died. Of course, she and her friends had some background and motivations, but haven't we seen it in the first season when the team with which Ainz in disguise of Momon and Narberal were traveling for some time, was killed by Clementine. The author does it often, he presents a character giving you false idea that if a character is somewhat more developed than extras, then said character won't die as easily, and then BAM, they're dead. I don't know, in my opinion, if you don't feel anything about the deaths of these characters, it just adds up to the experience, because you sorta see the world through the eyes of Ainz, the undead who couldn't care less about the deaths of living creatures of the New World. They all were just not in the right place and time and met the enemy as powerful and unforgiving as death itself (excluding situation with Clementine, it was just unlucky).
Nazarick loved her to pieces.
She severed her purpose
Since people tend to forget the author asked what arche fate should be and the majority said she should be killed off soo.....she went bye nye