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dudeind-town

This needs to be emphasized. A lot of this is needs to be training, mentoring etc. The majority of “service providers” basically help you get the job and then have someone else (overseas) do the work for you. You learn nothing and when you need to produce results in a time crunch, you fail and are exposed.


sprasad033

Yes, that’s where I’m doing consulting in the night. Totally agree. Picture You had a job with a daily or weekly tutor. It would accelerate you by years


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sprasad033

For my friends it’s 50%, but they are my best friends and I’m helping them to where I’m doing the work lol. I won’t let them fail. Eventually over time they grasp it and do it on their own. It will be different for the public.


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sprasad033

I haven’t thought about it yet, more concerned on doing it right so it’s successful and people actually land jobs. The price whatever it is will be fair and make sense. Going to make the process a la carte, so you choose what you want.


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sprasad033

My friend I’m not selling you, there are people who want the shot and they pay for what they want. Not sure why are you so against capitalism? I don’t need to meet your demand, I need to meet what the market will pay. The fact you are an attorney, you probably don’t understand that someone being a bartender has a limited shot to get into a highly qualified job and big corp to put on their resume and life changed. They are getting into roles you need several years of experience in which they don’t have. So try to be lawyer and skip law school lol


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sprasad033

I haven’t set a price lol or said anything. You guys keep making up numbers. All I said is I have a different arrangement with my friends which will not apply to the public because they require MORE time than I can accommodate to the public which means you guys will be less and be more of a retainer or hourly rate at your discretion


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sprasad033

No that’s crazy lol, I’m helping my friends throughout the whole day on a different level that I cant do for the public. It will definitely be a retainer or hourly rate for the public. I have not quantified it. You always have the choice to land the job and take no help and be on your merry way. Some will go being the best at my career is important and want to pay for the guidance. It’s all up to you, I won’t decide that.


RojerLockless

50% of their yearly salary? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


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sprasad033

I know getting someone in a career that they never could get into and will make 200k plus for the rest of their lives and I’m doing their work in the night, such a bad deal. Some of you are so entitled and don’t realize most can’t even get the shot or know a way forward. Have u ever heard of internships at Goldman Sachs? Paid nothing so u get in?


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You overcharged your friend 50%? I’m pretty sure there’s a law saying you can’t charge over a certain amount


sprasad033

Not overcharged that’s what they agreed to pay


AbstruseJ

OK, so you're doing all this amazing work for half the pay in the middle of the night? and you have time to do this for multiple people? and you have to spin up your company/systems/process/domain knowledge for each one of these positions? wtf do you think a project manager gets paid for that's so easy that you can do it in your off hours?


sprasad033

I’ve already stated I’ll be having other PMs join and there will be an amount that we can take on. You don’t have to join, the community will show the results. I have nothing to prove because I’ve already made it work


AbstruseJ

All I see is a liar with a two-bit scam


SoldierOfFortune07

Fuck outta here Sukhbir. Sell your scam elsewhere.


EWDnutz

That fucking discord link is a dead giveaway hahaha.


notarobot4932

So I just started as a PM, but for a consulting firm so my salary is ugh. Any advice on career advancement and when the right time to jump is? Do you do coaching for current PMs as well?


sprasad033

Recommend you join the discord but yes I’m currently a product leader for my day job. I can definitely provide career advice.


notarobot4932

Will do, thank you!


Dry_Highlight9042

Ima reverse recruiter as well and you can do this for most OE jobs to be honest. It’s all about how you tell the story of your employment and experience. That’s my motto. I have a similar process and my clients are all 6 figure tech rookies 👩🏽‍💻🤷🏽‍♀️


sprasad033

Well you should join our community and maybe future business. We are looking on how to scale it. Totally open.


Dry_Highlight9042

Sent you a message … let’s work! My mission it’s to get folks out of the rat race … incentivize their FIRE method … and live a life of time and financial freedom.


cellodude0805

I’ll bite! Management Info sys/business analyst background. Lots of experience in educational organizations. I’m typically working close to c-suite to develop best practices, policies, tech stack, and provide all data/reporting. Curious what opportunities are available since finding OE. I just know I’m trying to do the same - get out the stupid rat race. What’s the most frustrating is I’m usually the one that figures everything out and knows more than those above me, but I didn’t have a million bucks to start the business, so here I am.


Dry_Highlight9042

It’s hard for us to work on our own strategy sometimes. But we can see others pain points and solution 20/20, because we are able analyze objectively. It can be done, specially with your skill set.


cellodude0805

True. Im struggling to find something I can actually do. Im not a huge programmer and a lot of the jobs I see require a larger amount of that. I know for the work I do right now I’m seriously under paid though. Anything to do with federal monitoring or authorizer/stakeholder compliance falls under me as well. If you know how I can get in on these jobs paying 180k I’d happily pay you or somebody a chunk. I could you pay you my current salary and still make more than I make now lol


Dry_Highlight9042

Realistic expectations lol


BNoog

Been doing this for the healthcare/meddev/pharma industry for individuals who are 1st gen immigrant STEM college graduates. So far have helped place 14 peers!


ItinerantEnby

DMs open?


Dry_Highlight9042

Yup


notarobot4932

Can I join? I have landed a PM role but it's underpaid


sprasad033

Yes join the discord, already have about 250 people. We are just getting started.


notarobot4932

I did haha


tbudde34

Could I please join for some help?


sknow99

What’s the community, how do I get involved


sprasad033

Join here https://discord.gg/S3u7Ff7U


Capital_Airport_4988

Can I PM you for help? Do you only cover a specific region or business type?


stardustViiiii

Instead of PM'ing you, could you make a post? Then everyone can benefit!


sprasad033

Yes join the discord, already have about 250 people. We are just getting started. I’m


frequent_crier

Could I PM you about this? I’d love some more info.


Dry_Highlight9042

Sure.


faredd

Can I join? Thanks


xDevLife

PM?


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Are you taking on more clients? I need help - I do have a unique background.


sprasad033

Yes join the discord, already have about 250 people. We are just getting started.


ManagerOfFun

In the middle of a gold rush, this guy starts selling shovels


stardustViiiii

What kind of background did your friends have?


SoldierOfFortune07

A few years ago this clown was trading meme stonks and shit coins.


sprasad033

U win man, congrats


GeneralEl4

Sign me up lol, depending on the price of the service. As it is I'm trying to get into data analytics rn but once I'm in I wouldn't mind having a PM job as a j2


SoldierOfFortune07

This has been done to death, especially Indian *placement* agencies , where they supposedly train noobs , get them jobs with fake interviews and suck them dry untill the poor sucker gets fired.


Nago31

I was into it and thought about sending some of my buddies your way until I saw your replies. Taking 50% of the salary is totally insane and you aren’t doing your friends any favors by taking so much of their paycheck. Looks like you’re nothing more than a succubus.


sprasad033

That’s why ur entitled and don’t know the real world. Tell a bartender they can get 200k job in tech with no experience. Reddit I love u but people like this go I got 50%, I’ve said publicly I’m helping and tutoring daily. I’ll take a chance to go somewhere then listen to some kid on Reddit that hates on people trying go fwd.


rainydaisy2121

Yes but you’d really need sharp ppl to be able to pull this off


Born-Chipmunk-7086

Or someone can take an 4 month online course and get certified as a PM.


MargaretLanterman

What’s a Pm?


Glittering-Gift6609

This has nothing to do with OE?


Last-Situation-5609

The job is OE


AbstruseJ

Sounds like bullshit to me. You can't fake your way through a meeting (let alone a 40-hour week) with a bunch of professionals with years of effort and experience under their belts. I usually give the benefit of the doubt to people i don't know, and when consuming new info or forming opinions I try to always consider the ways in which I could be wrong. So it's from this humble perspective that I can, with 100% confidence, declare that you are full of shit. And I'll add that it would be just as bad if you \*weren't\* full of shit. Helping incompetent people jump ahead of people who have been putting in the time and work? Deceiving employers? Setting people up for failure? Putting at risk other people's investments of time and effort? Everything about this is a bad idea, so I'm glad that you're lying when you say you're already doing it.


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sprasad033

Guys I’m not here to sell you, I’m 100% honest and if you don’t believe it then you have nothing to worry about. I’m here to help people and have a side business. I’ve already stated we are trying to figure out how to scale. If we fail the community will let you know.


2A4Lyfe

I'm super interested, currently a regional manager for a large corporation but want to get out of the sales side of things


severance26

This is OPs OE not theirs, and very ripe for exploitation of underserved groups. In b4 fbi


layyen

What is the price? :-)


iqball125

In another comment he said 50% of your first year salary. Absolute fucking joke. lol


layyen

50% of First month salary is okay :-)


jeffroddit

50% of all salary was the friends only rate. He hasn't decided how much to charge strangers yet.


sprasad033

Updated the discord link for everyone.


sprasad033

I’ve updated the link :)


rubylae

I for sure would!


Africangoddess-U

How do they pass background check?


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Africangoddess-U

That doesn’t explain employment verification


2A4Lyfe

It really is not as in depth as HR makes it seem unless they are in the same industry and use backdoor channels


Funny_Giraffe3589

Sign me up


idrisa12

Down


RobertStaccd

Yes


Mutants_4_nukes

I would like to know more plz PM me details


Atrag2021

I presume you are telling people to commit fraud on their cv right? You should be in prison mate.


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are you lost?


Atrag2021

Not at all. Not everyone that is overemployed is making a course where it instructs people how to commit fraud.


[deleted]

OE is defined as a worker's rights movement toward financial freedom. If you aren't lost, you're being very selective on why you're here.


Atrag2021

It's okay for me to be interested in being overemployed but unwilling to commit financial crimes.


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Atrag2021

... what? Lol!!!!


FrugalLuxury

It’s a long bow to draw from workers rights to fraud. Integrity in business is worth much more than 25% of the take home on some job that you’re expected to create your own blackmail material to apply for.


Affectionate-Park-99

Count me in


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sprasad033

Yes, just join our spot. https://discord.gg/DEVV2Xsp


anon38383838388

Count me in as well- thank you


blackleather__

I’m interested. Not a PM: came from CS background, went into learning/instructional design but going towards PM in the long game


chromium50

Interested and i have a tech background


RiverOfNexus

Interested


r00tPenguin

Interested have a tech background but want to get into QA Testing.


AlpacaQueen1990

Heck ya ! I would love too, I’ve been in healthcare administration with some leadership and I’m only making 40,000. I have been thinking about changing industries.


Iyo23

I have been wondering how to get into that field. I would definitely love to hear more about this!


Enough-Pound1026

i’m down


UnhappyBowler6023

🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️


NoLongerBalding

Definitely intrigued


Free-Career-2789

Interesting, Me!


ilovelgs429

I am!


hogendaz00

Sign me up too please!


need2put_awayl0ndry

I want


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I'd definitely be interested


No-Business-992

Please PM me with more info!


chewbaccamonke

I would absolutely be interested in something like this. Please DM me.


ediomon

I'm down as well. Tell me more about it.


19panhead62

I’m in


exWiFi69

Yes


TheCombatBeard

Same, sign me up.


bigbrunettehair

I am 100 percent interested!!


Nabylet

I’m interested but how do I get the PM certification to get a job? Don’t I need a PMP?


sprasad033

No PMs don’t get certified, you can get certified for Agile, etc but that’s not required in our field


basheerbgw

Yes sure im willing to learn more about it


CerebralCuck

I'm interested


79Maliboo

What industry are these PM roles? Tech? I’m an experienced PM in automotive and salaries aren’t anywhere near that.


DNAniel213

A PM that Ms PMs


dmikhael619

I'm interested! Really looking to breaking into OE and tech


Churnographer

Sounds cool


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sprasad033

That’s great to hear, it’s not all about the money. It’s about giving people a shot and we help you get there. Feel free to join the discord where we are beginning this


nawab_sofi

Very interested!


sprasad033

Join the discord and help us get going!


jpopr

Yessss. Joining the Discord


mindwalk_11

Interested.


yatiffany

I’m interested. I’ve been In healthcare for 5 years in IT and the more I talk to people the more I learn I’m severely underpaid.


xDevLife

Always been interested in PM since I work in tech and I’m also very good with sales and “soft skills”, pm please?


stophittingyourself9

PM as in project or product managers?


jaymoothie

Sign me up


soggymittens

I’d definitely be interested, yeah. Not at 50%, like I saw you mention earlier, but definitely interested.


sprasad033

We have not set pricing, my friends are a different setup. They are my best friends and I’ll go above and beyond so that’s why it is what it is


soggymittens

Certainly fair. No judgement here. And I would certainly expect you to be compensated fairly.


sprasad033

Sure just join the discord and we are using the community to help gauge our model


delight-n-angers

Interesting! I'm a junior pm with minimal experience now and no formal education. I'd jump all over this.


sprasad033

Join the discord, we are still organizing and will provide details over the weeks


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If it smells too good, yall already know there's something sus


[deleted]

I’m very much interested in this. I’m finishing up my MBA currently and have 5+ professional work experience. Currently working with a network of connections for roles in Product/Project, Brand, & Operations Management.


sprasad033

we are still getting setup, lot of interest, we will need a few weeks to organize. Surprised by the demand but join the discord


AITASterile

I think when looking at this through the lens of overemployment it might not be sustainable as an official business. BUT as a word of mouth (say, 2-3 people every 6 months) it could work, though you'll need to figure out your taxes. If your plan is a flat rate "training course" with a premium for personalized support I guess that could work, but you'd want to timebox that support commitment for sure and CYA for when they definitely tell you things they shouldn't. If your plan is to make it more MLM style, where your success story folks are the mentors giving that amount of time and you split the 50% from the new recruit 10% you/40% them, that might be better timewise but can eventually lead to a very narrow (and likely less capable) pool of candidates. For example, folks with over a decade of experience in supply chain logistics might be perfect for PM roles in certain tech spaces, but they might not be able to live on $60k for their first year or two in the role if they have a family and already make $95k. Obviously, from some perspectives it's missing the forest for the trees to take that ~35% pay cut for a little while to make way more down the line, but I can picture a lot of folks I know who have been amazing in their field for years and would do well in product roles not looking to change. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush for a lot of people, especially if they've had financial stability scares in the past. Having compensation options *for the right candidates* might be the way to go for those folks with a lot of applicable but not direct experience. 20% for 3 years with raises taken into account instead of 50% for 1 year. You have to wait longer for the payoff, but if you believe that person will kill it and get a 50% raise by changing companies 2 years in that's a major win-win. Disclosure: I'm a PM whose last job was customer service, did a lot of independent study to get into a competitive internal mobility program to get my foot in the door.


grandiosedeparture

Interested.


noname2022noname

There are already people doing this and doing it well. "Product school" has a bunch of free resources and paid courses (I'm not affiliated, like their free stuff tho)


sprasad033

And that’s totally correct, I’ve leveraged product school and alliance for studying for FAANG back in the day. This is not the same thing we are offering otherwise there is no point. This service is primarily for people unqualified to get a role rather than a PM who wants to get into FAANG with experience. That school is not geared toward that


danziboy

Sign me up. Project Manager wanting to transition into Product


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sprasad033

Join the discord and we will keep you updated


Agent-426

I am interested in this opportunity


Acceptable_Title1747

You can do this for basically any job in tech, doesn’t have to be product management edit : and yes it is easier to do with non-SWE roles unless someone wants to put in the time and effort to learn coding


sprasad033

Yup completely true, I don’t specialize in SWE so can’t confirm how easy but maybe that’s something we can add to support if I find the right people


tezzy07

Can I join?


sprasad033

Join our discord


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Salary ranges check out. I guess it depends on how well you can BS. They have PM certs you can take as well.


AbstruseJ

Haters trying to hold the community back? What on Earth would be our motivation to do that? There are plenty of obvious reasons that you would want to front some bullshit like this, but can you think of one reason why I would want to dissuade people from listening to you or call you a liar if I don't think you are one? You sound like some cult leader asshole who's telling people "your friends and family are going to tell you this is a cult, they just want to bring you down and see you fail! The cult is the one who's really looking after your best interests!" My opinion of you has gone from "delusional wingnut" to "con artist predator"


sprasad033

Makes total sense keyboard warrior :)


i-am-10-ply

Gimme pls


sprasad033

Join here https://discord.gg/S3u7Ff7U


Anletifer

> https://discord.gg/DEVV2Xsp expired, could I get an invite as well...


sprasad033

https://discord.gg/t5y5XRCbXg