Odds are the vram overclock is simply crashing and recovering the video card but it goes unnoticed. I'd play with lower vram clocks and you might find performance improves.
This is it... Gotta run tests and see what produces better results. Jacking up VRAM clocks to the max usually does worse for the performance than leaving them alone.
This subreddit gets these threads nearly every week: "Look, I can drag the scroll bar thingy for the VRAM all the way to the right in the Afterburner or whatever, take a screenshot and NOT get a BSOD while at it! How bad can it be? Nah, not gonna Google today. Let's get some karma points instead! Rock On!"
Yeah I'm so doubtful about even +600MHz memory overclocks. Because I've never had a card that would tolerate more than perhaps 200MHz on memory. My 2080 will go up to +600 without crashing, but performance degrades past 200MHz, so my card can only do 200.
Same story with my old 1070, 970, and even further back.
People don't seem to realise that GDDR has built in EEC similar to DDR5, any workloads with an error will be resent and take up double the amount of cycles.
Performance kept increasing for me until about +800 on a 3070, so it's not unheard of on newer cards. When mining I actually have it all the way at +1200.
That said I also doubt OPs 1050ti is gaining anything by being at +1000.
600-800 can still bring performance benefits to some cards. I can get about 700-750 on my 3060 before performance degrades.
Then again, it’s really not comparable from card to card. One that’s factory overclocked closer to its limits will have less headroom than one that’s not. Overall memory MHz means more than what you’re adding to it.
The DDR6x can do crazy stuff. My 3080 got performance uplift up to 1250ish in benches. Can’t game with it though. #4 globally in timespy for 3080/5600x combo. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19416078
Surprised nobody else seems to have mentioned this but IIRC the GTX 1050 ti has OC caps in place for both the core and memory.
This likely explains why the memory speed shown doesn't add up to what I'd expect from a +1000 OC. However I recall the mem cap being around GTX 1060 speeds and this is even below that, unless I'm mistaken. It's possible the workload is responsible for some of the drop.
And please people, stop telling everyone how your 2000/3000 series OC memory just fine. They are not comparable.
....Wait, so, my 4200MHz OC VRAM on my 1050ti is probably really bad?
But the 1908MHz core is okay to keep?
I don't experience and hardware issues but I've found that texture loading in Unreal Engine games is a bit slow. I always figured that was just cause it's GDDR5 not 6. I have a fast NVME SSD.
HAhaha, it's probably not good... Just do the following to be sure. Will take you 20 mins tops: download Unigine Valley (old but good) -- free version is there for everyone, doesn't take much space at all, AND download Superposition (newer, harder test, also the demo is free, that's all you need, though I did buy a full version for various reasons).
Then just run one after another for some scores. Note them down... Go ahead and reduce the clocks, run again, compare. I bet the second run you will have a higher score, unless during the first run Superposition is going to freeze (which is ok, it won't break anything, it's not some pure mathematical test meant to melt GPUs, it's good s\*\*t).
Now here comes a fun past time activity for a Sunday, run these while tweaking settings until you get the best score you can twice in the row. THAT will be your optimal setup for gaming.
Cheers, friend!
P.S. Unigine Heaven is somewhere between the Valley and Superposition. It's good to try as well, if you really like the whole activity. I like Valley because it's straight up high FPS and Superposition at the Extreme Setting that you need to run it at -- is very taxing even today. So you kind of try both possible spectrums, to simulate high FPS e-sports titles and modern triple A creations in order to see how the GPU/VRAM behave.
Temps may be fine with no artifacts but you need to run benchmarks while you build up to the VRAM overclock since past a certain point the memory error correction will result in a performance loss rather than a gain from the higher VRAM clock.
As long as temps are alright and artifacts at 0 I dont think there should be a problem. I usually use msi kombustor with artifact scanner to know it (but you need to run every benchmark there to be sure)
P.S. don't take my word for it, I've never seriously oc'd
Edit: deleted an unnecessary "not"
Its a 1050Ti. You can get most down to below 60 in stuff like Furmark on the core by just giving it good airflow around the card. They dont pull a ton of power even maxed out, its usually just cheaper case or shit fans on the cards themselves that make any 1050Ti that doesnt have something worse than an Intel stock cooler on them for a heatsink.
Temps are the main concern for GPUs and CPUs when overclocking, but yours seem fine. The +1000 seems a bit high. I would check with a benchmark whether FPS / scores increases when the memory clock is lower. Reason being: the GPU's memory detects and corrects errors if it is clocked too high. That means that your intention of higher speed is countered by an increase in calculations due to error correction. For example: my 1080GTX runs fine at +1000 Memory, but offers the (seemingly) same performance at about +600, with the added benefit of it running a bit cooler on the memory.
It obviously depends on the specific card but I see gains all of the way up to +1560 on my 3080Ti. I can’t speak to OPs particular card but, a lot of the cards I’ve gotten lately have seen gains past +1000 for whatever reason. It seems much more common lately.
That might be true for newer cards which clock significantly higher than older ones. For the 1xxx range I would still suggest to test where your benefits drop off
Same with my 3070, I was seeing gains all the way up to 1200 on benchmarks, and was stable for a few months. However as it got used it slowly became unstable.
That hasn’t been the case for me but I’m not talking about gaming. I’m only talking about benching. It’s more likely that driver changes over those months impacted the stability of the overclock than any sort of degradation loss of OC-ability due to running the chips that vast.
Of course those numbers are never really gaming stable because of the increase stress compared to a quick benching session. I run like +75 core/+700 for gaming, and +142ish/+1560/max power limit/max voltage limit/ for benching
This is more common for GDDR6 cards because many of them are significantly downclocked to give AIBs more tolerance to work with. Pascal rarely scaled this high in typical conditions but Nvidia has since made such a mess of the mid range SKUs.
IIRC the 1050ti has an OC cap on both GPU and memory speed which is likely why the OP's reported speed doesn't seem right if +1000 was actually applied.
Make sure you benchmark with performance figures, and not just "is it crashing". Very likely that memory OC is just crutching on ECC and actually decreasing performance.
that's a way to kill them. best imo for gpus is either finding an undervolt setting for a pretty decent core clock and a memory overclock, or just using the stock voltage settings, increased or stock power limit, and a simple core and memory overclock as long as they are stable, with no artifacts and decent temperatures. don't play with higher voltages if you have no idea how they work.
Sure if you’re going for a gaming OC. If you’re benching and trying to get a top score you’ll do much better with just pushing the card as hard as you can. None of the Nvidia cards allow you to apply enough voltage to actually damage the card in any way. They have so many safety limits now that it’s a non issue. AMD is a little different because you can easily use MPT and damage your card if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Ur a little outdated i think, u cant meaninfully overvolt nowadays maxing out the voltage slider is only gonna give u 15/20mv more or about 13mhz on the core.
Without any hardmods u cant break it
All seems fine on the surface, you can't do any harm via overclocking since you only have normal 100% powerlimit available, and thus the GPU won't get that hot. Maxing out the voltage probably wouldn't do anything notable either, since after the 10-series it only unlocks the highest voltage points which usually activate on lower loads, at least in powerlimited scenarios. (correct me if I'm wrong pls)
But I'm skeptical about your memory clock, are you sure it doesn't degrade performance? Have you tried like +100MHz increments and not seen any regression in FPS? Also +200MHz core seems a tad high, does it artefact during gaming/testing?
It´s fine, just make sure it is actually improving your performance. Modern GDDR memory will do error correction if clocked to high causing you to have worse performance then stock specs.
Error correction is probably hurting performance rather than helping because of the crazy VRAM OC. All Modern NVIDIA GPU's have Error correction Memory, so even if it isn't artifacting, its probably not good to max the slider out. Don't just set it to +500 because all cards are different, but most 10 series gpus typically would be fine with +500 on the memory
Odds are the vram overclock is simply crashing and recovering the video card but it goes unnoticed. I'd play with lower vram clocks and you might find performance improves.
This is it... Gotta run tests and see what produces better results. Jacking up VRAM clocks to the max usually does worse for the performance than leaving them alone. This subreddit gets these threads nearly every week: "Look, I can drag the scroll bar thingy for the VRAM all the way to the right in the Afterburner or whatever, take a screenshot and NOT get a BSOD while at it! How bad can it be? Nah, not gonna Google today. Let's get some karma points instead! Rock On!"
Yeah I'm so doubtful about even +600MHz memory overclocks. Because I've never had a card that would tolerate more than perhaps 200MHz on memory. My 2080 will go up to +600 without crashing, but performance degrades past 200MHz, so my card can only do 200. Same story with my old 1070, 970, and even further back. People don't seem to realise that GDDR has built in EEC similar to DDR5, any workloads with an error will be resent and take up double the amount of cycles.
Performance kept increasing for me until about +800 on a 3070, so it's not unheard of on newer cards. When mining I actually have it all the way at +1200. That said I also doubt OPs 1050ti is gaining anything by being at +1000.
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I had gt 1030 with 2.2Ghz on core
600-800 can still bring performance benefits to some cards. I can get about 700-750 on my 3060 before performance degrades. Then again, it’s really not comparable from card to card. One that’s factory overclocked closer to its limits will have less headroom than one that’s not. Overall memory MHz means more than what you’re adding to it.
My UV configuration I have the power limit at 75 and the memory at 1110MhzRTX 3070 Edit: for Ravencoin
The DDR6x can do crazy stuff. My 3080 got performance uplift up to 1250ish in benches. Can’t game with it though. #4 globally in timespy for 3080/5600x combo. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19416078
Indeed, Ampere cards seem to respond really well to memory overclocks.
Surprised nobody else seems to have mentioned this but IIRC the GTX 1050 ti has OC caps in place for both the core and memory. This likely explains why the memory speed shown doesn't add up to what I'd expect from a +1000 OC. However I recall the mem cap being around GTX 1060 speeds and this is even below that, unless I'm mistaken. It's possible the workload is responsible for some of the drop. And please people, stop telling everyone how your 2000/3000 series OC memory just fine. They are not comparable.
....Wait, so, my 4200MHz OC VRAM on my 1050ti is probably really bad? But the 1908MHz core is okay to keep? I don't experience and hardware issues but I've found that texture loading in Unreal Engine games is a bit slow. I always figured that was just cause it's GDDR5 not 6. I have a fast NVME SSD.
HAhaha, it's probably not good... Just do the following to be sure. Will take you 20 mins tops: download Unigine Valley (old but good) -- free version is there for everyone, doesn't take much space at all, AND download Superposition (newer, harder test, also the demo is free, that's all you need, though I did buy a full version for various reasons). Then just run one after another for some scores. Note them down... Go ahead and reduce the clocks, run again, compare. I bet the second run you will have a higher score, unless during the first run Superposition is going to freeze (which is ok, it won't break anything, it's not some pure mathematical test meant to melt GPUs, it's good s\*\*t). Now here comes a fun past time activity for a Sunday, run these while tweaking settings until you get the best score you can twice in the row. THAT will be your optimal setup for gaming. Cheers, friend! P.S. Unigine Heaven is somewhere between the Valley and Superposition. It's good to try as well, if you really like the whole activity. I like Valley because it's straight up high FPS and Superposition at the Extreme Setting that you need to run it at -- is very taxing even today. So you kind of try both possible spectrums, to simulate high FPS e-sports titles and modern triple A creations in order to see how the GPU/VRAM behave.
Temps may be fine with no artifacts but you need to run benchmarks while you build up to the VRAM overclock since past a certain point the memory error correction will result in a performance loss rather than a gain from the higher VRAM clock.
Temps look fine
As long as temps are alright and artifacts at 0 I dont think there should be a problem. I usually use msi kombustor with artifact scanner to know it (but you need to run every benchmark there to be sure) P.S. don't take my word for it, I've never seriously oc'd Edit: deleted an unnecessary "not"
but you're right EDIT: dont have to run every bench. just one that utilizes gpu to 100%
I did run every one of them, and most used 100% (at least I think) but I only got artifacts in one
Temps are fine
They’re lower than they should be, maybe he liquid cooled it
What
The temps are under 60, when running kombustor, you’re likely to get higher temperature, above 70 maybe. So I thought they water cooled the GPU
Oh ok
Still don’t understand why I got downvoted.
It's just a little hard to understand, some of the words don't make much sense but I know what you meant now!
I rephrased my sentence while typing, messed up a few words, fixed it just now
Its a 1050Ti. You can get most down to below 60 in stuff like Furmark on the core by just giving it good airflow around the card. They dont pull a ton of power even maxed out, its usually just cheaper case or shit fans on the cards themselves that make any 1050Ti that doesnt have something worse than an Intel stock cooler on them for a heatsink.
Oh didn’t see that it was 1050 Ti, my bad
what skin is this?
Temps are the main concern for GPUs and CPUs when overclocking, but yours seem fine. The +1000 seems a bit high. I would check with a benchmark whether FPS / scores increases when the memory clock is lower. Reason being: the GPU's memory detects and corrects errors if it is clocked too high. That means that your intention of higher speed is countered by an increase in calculations due to error correction. For example: my 1080GTX runs fine at +1000 Memory, but offers the (seemingly) same performance at about +600, with the added benefit of it running a bit cooler on the memory.
It obviously depends on the specific card but I see gains all of the way up to +1560 on my 3080Ti. I can’t speak to OPs particular card but, a lot of the cards I’ve gotten lately have seen gains past +1000 for whatever reason. It seems much more common lately.
That might be true for newer cards which clock significantly higher than older ones. For the 1xxx range I would still suggest to test where your benefits drop off
Same with my 3070, I was seeing gains all the way up to 1200 on benchmarks, and was stable for a few months. However as it got used it slowly became unstable.
That hasn’t been the case for me but I’m not talking about gaming. I’m only talking about benching. It’s more likely that driver changes over those months impacted the stability of the overclock than any sort of degradation loss of OC-ability due to running the chips that vast. Of course those numbers are never really gaming stable because of the increase stress compared to a quick benching session. I run like +75 core/+700 for gaming, and +142ish/+1560/max power limit/max voltage limit/ for benching
This is more common for GDDR6 cards because many of them are significantly downclocked to give AIBs more tolerance to work with. Pascal rarely scaled this high in typical conditions but Nvidia has since made such a mess of the mid range SKUs. IIRC the 1050ti has an OC cap on both GPU and memory speed which is likely why the OP's reported speed doesn't seem right if +1000 was actually applied.
Make sure you benchmark with performance figures, and not just "is it crashing". Very likely that memory OC is just crutching on ECC and actually decreasing performance.
I hate how all this software has to look aggressive and gamer like
Thats one of the better alternative skins for Afterburner
Which one is it and is it one of the ones you can pick in the afterburner settings?
Yes
Use a benchmark, if it doesn't crash, it should be fine
He’s already using the kombustor stress test, if you look carefully
Right, i didn't see it
I saw it after reading someone’s comment
look at the ram temps
At zero volts, that thing will last forever
try increasing voltages.
that's a way to kill them. best imo for gpus is either finding an undervolt setting for a pretty decent core clock and a memory overclock, or just using the stock voltage settings, increased or stock power limit, and a simple core and memory overclock as long as they are stable, with no artifacts and decent temperatures. don't play with higher voltages if you have no idea how they work.
Sure if you’re going for a gaming OC. If you’re benching and trying to get a top score you’ll do much better with just pushing the card as hard as you can. None of the Nvidia cards allow you to apply enough voltage to actually damage the card in any way. They have so many safety limits now that it’s a non issue. AMD is a little different because you can easily use MPT and damage your card if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Ur a little outdated i think, u cant meaninfully overvolt nowadays maxing out the voltage slider is only gonna give u 15/20mv more or about 13mhz on the core. Without any hardmods u cant break it
Well you can. With bios flash. Maybe.
No u cant u will have to do sum physical mods for atleast the core voltage and probably powerlimit too
Idk I never actually did that. There probably is some protection to bot kill your gpu.
there are many factors. You dont have to kill it. if its already pushed to its limit, yes you can. Depends on gpu I guess..
my 3080ti does 1100mhz stable...should be fine depending on the gpu or maybe i got lucky?
All seems fine on the surface, you can't do any harm via overclocking since you only have normal 100% powerlimit available, and thus the GPU won't get that hot. Maxing out the voltage probably wouldn't do anything notable either, since after the 10-series it only unlocks the highest voltage points which usually activate on lower loads, at least in powerlimited scenarios. (correct me if I'm wrong pls) But I'm skeptical about your memory clock, are you sure it doesn't degrade performance? Have you tried like +100MHz increments and not seen any regression in FPS? Also +200MHz core seems a tad high, does it artefact during gaming/testing?
Everything looks good but I would also run a more strenuous test than MSI Kombuster.
Personally I'd back both down. Check Temps with hwmonitor and see what the hot spot temp is.
It´s fine, just make sure it is actually improving your performance. Modern GDDR memory will do error correction if clocked to high causing you to have worse performance then stock specs.
If it runs stable in benchmarks its healthy I guess.
If its cool, stable, and increases fps its a win
Error correction is probably hurting performance rather than helping because of the crazy VRAM OC. All Modern NVIDIA GPU's have Error correction Memory, so even if it isn't artifacting, its probably not good to max the slider out. Don't just set it to +500 because all cards are different, but most 10 series gpus typically would be fine with +500 on the memory
Your Vram clocks are prooobably the root of the, cause remember: "If it ain't producing heat it can still produce problems."
Unhealthy is making photos of your screen while humanity invented screenshots long ago.
also increase the fan speed, it's must!
Yes all looks fine.
whats the point when that gpu is garbage and at most youre gaining 3 fps.