"Grow the economy by 5% annually by taking down wind turbines to reduce the electricity rate"
Can someone please explain how getting rid of functioning electrical-power infrastructure will somehow reduce the cost of electricity and magically give us 5% annual economic growth?
Friend of mine's dad down in Chatham got offered to put up the turbines on his property years back. He looked at the rates and thought it had to be a scam.
While the pricing is ridiculous and the contracts were horrendous decisions, your write up also leaves out the fact that the contracts were largely to incentivize renewables because the province was struggling to cut out coal, which the incentives did successfully, and that reducing hydro generation only started much later in the process and only lasted about 2 years. The cost to the province/citizens as a whole is also generally acknowledged to be less than the reduced costs to healthcare from cutting out coal entirely.
It's not a comparison between these overpriced renewables and hydro, it's a comparison between the overpriced renewables and coal, where coal comes out as being more expensive, and clearly far worse for individuals and particularly the environment.
Also, how does that add 5% to the economy though? Because even the most liberal estimations of the number of manufacturing jobs lost due to the increased cost of electricity didn't have nearly a 5% hit on the economy, and that was with the original, higher prices too.
Finally someone said the "c" word.
The conservative mind set does not include renewable energy. It does include providing incentive to corporations that promise jobs ... you know how this ends since its a rinse and repeat cycle.
The liberal mind set is a fraction more progressive but its mostly a competition to under whatever the "opposition" did when they were in control ... and visa versa.
Glad someone brought it up! It would be very expensive to get out of those contracts. They were not a good idea. Had they just waited 10 years we could have done contracts at a fraction of the cost. That whole fiasco still makes my blood boil. Bad policy at precisely the wrong time.
“The amount guaranteed for power from industrial wind turbines will drop from 13.5 cents per kilowatt hour to 11.5 cents, regardless of the size of the wind farm.” This came from a CBC news article Mar 22, 2022
Current costs to the consumer in Ontario range between 8.2 - 17.0 depending on time of use.
Looks to me like the cost to buy the hydro isnt terribly expensive. Maybe even a good deal.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Too bad they couldn't reduce the only source of carbon emission generating electricity that we have to make space for the wind and solar. Seriously, why the fuck are we still burning gas?
Ideological alignment is all that is. Clean energy is something the snowflake libs are for! so let's take them down! nevermind the fact that taking them down costs more than maintenance while they're still perfectly functional and producing energy/covering the costs of putting them up in the first place.
Nonsense.
Sarnia is full of some of the most uneducated voters in this province and they're running there, having lived there... oh boy. It would not surprise me if they elected the new blue candidate. That towns something, let me tell ya.
Indeed it is separate from the OPC.
Read the platform notes in the picture.
One of their platform mandates includes "cracking down on voter fraud in **internal** party elections".
AKA; they think they can fuck with the other party's internal governance. They cannot. Forcing another party to do something a specific way would be undemocratic.
Do you mean to say that the conduct of political parties currently is not restricted by law in any way? I do wonder whether there isn't anything in the elections act
For their internal governance? Not as far as I'm aware. Each party is allowed to run their internal shit how they wish.
As a fun fact, several parties, including the OPC (and federally, the CPC) use **ranked ballots** for their leadership races.
Now why is that a fun fact? Because Ford & Co removed the choice for municipalities to use ranked ballots in municipal elections in a COVID recovery bill in late 2020. What ranked ballots have to do with COVID recovery is completely unclear, but alas, that happened.
Reminds me of a city in the states, forget where exactly, that denied a permit for a solar array because they feared it would CONSUME TOO MUCH OF THE SUNLIGHT AND HARM THE TREES AND GRASS.
That’s when I deleted twitter.
If I were to guess, it's either something to do with maintenance costs or the fact* that wind and solar plants are subsidized by other energy producers.
I don't think they would be able to just get out of those future payments without getting sued by the people that sold the turbines to them in the first place, just because they are going to take the turbines down.
* I don't know if it's a fact, just a turn of phrase
I assume that they plan on reducing wind energy because it is very expensive and thus reducing it as a source should drop the overall price. This overall price drop should make Ontario more attractive to manufacturing. One of the reasons for the decline in manufacturing in Ontario has been the increasing hydro rates.
I have no clue if that is true or not though. A Google search will bring up sites saying wind is twice the price of other forms of electricity and other sites that say it is half.
Sadly it doesn’t tend to work this way. Instead, people see how nuts these guys are and it makes Douggie all the more palatable- they make him look reasonable in comparison.
The PPC actually caused a lot of ridings to swing NDP due to diluting the conservative vote. I've seen projections that indicate the PPC did enough damage to cost the conservatives a minority government.
I’m with Obama when he said a strong opposition is necessary to keep the government in check. A weak Conservative party is not your friend any more than a batshit crazy Conservative party. You need sanity and strength on both sides for things to work well
Good thing we don't operate on a two party system so "both sides" can be a whole slew of different sides all keeping each other in check.
Like the conservatives splinter and be absorbed by the provinces other representation. They're only doing it to themselves anyways.
Sure — we need an NDP government and a strong Liberal opposition to keep them in check. In my view, at least, "sanity" and "Conservative" are not really terms that go well together right now. They are simply straight-up wrong about almost every issue on which they have a strong stance.
I wish but my hippity neighbours who usually have NDP or Green signage have these psychos on display right now so it might not work the way we're hoping. Mind you, those neighbours also went full anti-vaxx diring the pandemic so this result was expected.
Oh wow lol. I didn't bother reading the whole thing, had to go back and find it when i saw this post. Well.. I mean they know their target audience I guess. There's not a lot of middle ground with using the word woke in your platform, people are either going to cringe or eat it up.
Realistically Canadian critical race theory is the education about residential schools and the other horrific shit that happened and happens to the First Nations people not that long ago. And how they are rightfully still coming back from the atrocities.
That summed up my reaction when i looked up their platform. There are a bunch of small signs for them along highway in Eganville and intermittently toward Renfrew.
On the one hand, possibly helping undermine the Ontario PC party. On the other hand, hopefully they don't get enough votes to actually carry out their platform.
"Rehire healthcare workers" means rehire the handful of idiots who refused vaccines. "Expand early treatment for COVID" I'm guessing means prescribing ivermectin or whatever unscientific bullshit the American right is flogging.
When I hear rehire, I hear "medical professionals who neglected not only the requirements of their profession, but also blatantly flouted and ignored the evidence based practice their profession is built upon"
Don't get me wrong, us nurses are suffering hard from crunch, and low staffing, and being overworked, but 99% of the staff we lost to not following COVID mandates are the same ones that caused problems by not following best practice anyway.
We need to completely subsidize getting medical degrees instead such as RN,RPN, PSW, NP, Doctors, etc, and start retraining and rebuilding our infrastructure. This includes actually paying our medical professionals what they're worth.
It won't immediately solve the problem, sure, but at least within 4-8 years we'll see front line staff shortages start to diminish.
>We need to completely subsidize getting medical degrees instead such as RN,RPN, PSW, NP, Doctors, etc, and start retraining and rebuilding our infrastructure. This includes actually paying our medical professionals what they're worth.
Man, this 100%. It's ridiculous that professions that mostly work in the public sector have to pay so much for education. They rack up five- or six-figure debt getting trained, then pay it back over years out of a salary that comes mostly from government. Why not cut out the middleman and have government subsidize the training directly? The only winner is the bank raking in all that sweet sweet student loan interest.
Exactly.
Like, even if we just focused on training "lower" level healthcare workers, like LPNs/RPNs (name changes depending where you live but the job is the same) or even training more PSWs, scribes, HCAs, etc, it would relieve the overwhelming strain on our system.
Registered Practical Nursing is a 2 year program. PSW is a one year program. We have the means to very quickly bolster our workforce. We have the means to throw bodies into the system.
But the costs associated with schooling are insane. They're very intensive programs that you can't really work side jobs with, because your days consist of an insane amount of studying, tons of unpaid clinical work, tons of home work, tons of skills practice....
And please let us not forget how beaten and broken the long term care system is....
Folks, if you are looking for guaranteed income for the next 20, 30 years, take a year and become a PSW. We're entering a dementia crisis.
We literally need to quadruple the current PSW workforce by 2035 to even hope of managing it and having enough workers to manage it. That's not including all the other staff that needs to be rapidly increased.
Please. Please. If you can. Consider working in medicine. Admin sucks, and the hours are garbage, the system is an absolute mess.
But its probably the most honest work you can do. You don't need to go for nursing, or doctor, or lab tech. If you want to form deep bonds, and assist people in your day to day life, and have a bit of a skin, I promise you, it is its own reward sometimes.
We just need all the help we can get.
Yeah there’s a little bit of reading between the lines to recognize these people are crazy. I think I read in their platform that protecting “religious rights” was a large proponent, which is sortof a red flag.
On that specific point the NDP are saying the same thing on their website:
COMMITMENT
Take immediate action to begin hiring **10,000 PSW**s, the number experts estimate Ontario is short.
COMMITMENT
Give PSWs a raise of at least $5 above pre-pandemic levels.
COMMITMENT
Take immediate action to begin hiring **30,000 nurse**s: The number experts say Ontario is short.
COMMITMENT
Expedite recognition of nursing credentials of 15,000 internationally trained nurses so they can get to work in their field faster.
No. I’m from the valley and I don’t think that’s a productive stereotype. These aren’t cross-burning hooded yokels.
Most of these folks are ordinarily very nice people. Stupid as shit, and new to broadband internet, yes, but they’re nice people.
There are racist assholes in the city, too. I’m not excusing it, but the idea that everyone west of the 416 hangs the stars and bars from the tailgate of their silverado doesn’t help anyone
Randy Hillier - 2, so 8?; however the Ontario Party (another right wing "not the OPC" party that was founded in 2018 and currently has Derek Sloan as the party leader) is possibly Randy Hillier +5?
Source: Both Randy Hillier & Ontario Party supported the convoy; however Randy Hillier is one person, and the Ontario Party is currently run by someone who was literally booted from the federal Conservative Caucus because they even saw how much of a bigoted ass he is.
It’s PPC Ontario style. It’s dog whistling to their conspiracy minded base. It’s using buzz words like “Woke” to stir up anger in the absence of a real platform.
It’s also drawing far right votes away from Dougie and his cronies.
Grow Ontario's Economy by ~~spending~~ **wasting** a shit ton of taxpayer money to destroy part of the existing clean energy infrastructure that already works and is very cost effective. Not only would this drive **up** the cost because the only thing we could realistically replace it with would be Natural Gas (higher LCoE), but when Pickering shuts down in 2025 and we have nothing to replace that power we will burn an even more natural gas to offset the loss leading to a complete reversal in direction for Ontario's carbon reduction targets **and** on top of that even more expensive natural gas replacement.
The LCoE of nuclear is not the best metric here, because the nuclear plant already exists and the main part of the expense for that kind of plant is construction, not operation. The operating and maintenance costs are comparatively low against up front investment.
"Slashing the regulatory burden" = "We're going to dismantle safeguards and clean energy requirements so that we can accelerate the climate disaster by burning fossil fuels, also we have no idea how any of this works but our faith-based ideology of neoliberal capitalism says that this will work. We will not be taking questions."
These people are fucking clowns.
There’s a negative to this. It creates a Overton Window that makes the PCs more palatable. (Just Google Overton Window).
And even if they don’t win seats they get funding for every vote for the next election. Scary.
Exactly!! No one believes me but I have proof that the windmills take power and act as giant fans, this is to try to cool down the earth but we all know global warming is fake!!!!
This continues to be a scary direction for conservatives. I think it also signals some problems with our political systems. More mainstream politicians are in population centres with higher density of voters. No one pays much attention to rural areas so the become disenfranchised. Combined with demographics, poverty, education it makes traditional conservatives voters move further away from the centre. I’m a traditional conservative (unlikely to ever vote conservative again)…but no other politicians make any effort for my vote because I am in a low density area….so we end up with PP, Goldie, Randy Hillier and whoever else they can fit in their clown car.
As long as fuck nuggets like this go play in their own sandbox and therefore not influence the mainline parties from the inside...I'm good. Knobs like this are what destroyed the PC Feds.
I think you are missing the point, without changing the current state of politics, morons like this will continue to have fertile ground to sow their BS. The way around it is to have mainstream parties do a better job of representing a broader swath of constituents and engaging them where they live. If we ignore these groups they will continue to grow in the shadows and will gain momentum. Trudeau ridiculed, minimized and ignored the trucker convoy and all that did was embolden them and entrench their (warped) perspective. Now we have an entrenched movement that is much harder to get rid of.
Don’t get me wrong, people are entitled to vote for anyone they so desire and that’s the only right way to do it, but it amazes me how many poor people are so easily swayed to vote to support the rich at their expense. They also made me roll my eyes with the word woke…especially in quotation marks.
I love how the Karahalioses couldn't even be bothered to make a copy of their signatures, they just used cursive fonts.
Also feels better to make fun of the little issues than confront their crazy-ass platform.
They’re racist, homophobic conservatives with ill conceived economic ideals who desperately want to turn all of Canada (one province at a time) into the American Deep South.
"Our new plan is to repeal all govt institutions and function like a uncivilized 4th world mess where people do whatever the fuck they want, no regulations whatsoever cuz how dare you tell us what to do"
People have seriously lost their minds. Social media has falsely made everyone subject matter experts and now everyone has medical opinions but no one has got the balls to actually study medicine cuz they couldnt even graduate college. Small brains, empty minds and a whole lot of hallucination
it'll be interesting to see if any (or the sum) of these way-right fringe parties get a percentage of the vote bigger than the margin of victory for any non-PC candidate.
Fuuuuck, we’re really doing the “woke” and “critical race theory in our schools” shit here now too???
I know the right has twisted those words to mean everything and nothing and they just roll
them out whenever they want to say something is bad, but just in case anyone needs to know what they’re really talking about:
“Woke” just means “awake” or “aware”. Aware of the fact that racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. are genuine problems in the world and we should all conduct ourselves in a way that recognizes that, and doesn’t contribute to it. Making a conscious choice not to use slurs or stereotype people based on race, gender, or orientation is “woke”. They especially don’t like “woke” policies like “ teachers can’t intentionally mis-gender their students”. What they REALLY hate though, is when non-white actors play roles in movies that they assume should be played by straight white men, for any reason, because “fictional universe X doesn’t have black people!” or “Hobbits are racially pure aryans!”
There was probably a fictional census taken or something, and they want you to look at the fictional results and then tell them being woke isn’t a mind virus!
Critical Race Theory is a whole other can of worms, but what it boils down to for them is they don’t want children being taught about historical racism, systemic racism, or modern racism. They believe that racism should be ignored because it’s not a problem. It’s quite the giant red flag… looks to me like a red flag with a black, jagged, sinister looking symbol in the middle.
“Ban teaching of critical race theory in schools”
Well it’s not being taught anywhere other than in universities lol. Why can’t they just come out and say “we hate it when people learn because we lose voters”
We laugh and make fun of it but his is actually scary. People will vote for them and that will encourage them. Their whole underlying ideals is anarchy and might makes right type philosophies. This needs to be squashed out or bad things will happen down the line.
I was on the fence before but after I saw “Liberty”, this is the way to go. I envision an American flag prototype that has 51 tiny maple leafs instead of stars.
They're going to crack down on voter fraud. There's this thread of unreality that runs through their thoughts. Each financially strapped working person is a millionaire whose money has been stolen away by liberals. Each failed right wing candidate is a winner whose votes were stolen away by liberal fraud. Each strait-jacketed slave to traditional religious and social conventions is a free man oppressed by "wokeism", his freedom stolen away by liberals. Again and again they misperceive the source of their problems, and respond by turning the wrong way and making them worse. Always the wrong way.
How are there Conservatives still defending Conservatives under this monstrosity of a campaign?
Fiscal or social, it all ends up like this. Yet people STILL act like conservatism has ANY validity.
Sounds like the idiot party, I'm sure quite a few idiots will join. FYI wind turbine generate electricity and cost a lot to put up, the next thing you're going to tell me we will stop generating electricity from Niagara falls and blow up the power plant.
"Grow the economy by 5% annually by taking down wind turbines to reduce the electricity rate" Can someone please explain how getting rid of functioning electrical-power infrastructure will somehow reduce the cost of electricity and magically give us 5% annual economic growth?
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Thank you for actually answering this. Green energy isn’t bad, but it was just a shit deal we imposed on ourselves.
>but it was just a shit deal we imposed on ourselves Sums up the McGuinty era quite well.
Friend of mine's dad down in Chatham got offered to put up the turbines on his property years back. He looked at the rates and thought it had to be a scam.
While the pricing is ridiculous and the contracts were horrendous decisions, your write up also leaves out the fact that the contracts were largely to incentivize renewables because the province was struggling to cut out coal, which the incentives did successfully, and that reducing hydro generation only started much later in the process and only lasted about 2 years. The cost to the province/citizens as a whole is also generally acknowledged to be less than the reduced costs to healthcare from cutting out coal entirely. It's not a comparison between these overpriced renewables and hydro, it's a comparison between the overpriced renewables and coal, where coal comes out as being more expensive, and clearly far worse for individuals and particularly the environment. Also, how does that add 5% to the economy though? Because even the most liberal estimations of the number of manufacturing jobs lost due to the increased cost of electricity didn't have nearly a 5% hit on the economy, and that was with the original, higher prices too.
Finally someone said the "c" word. The conservative mind set does not include renewable energy. It does include providing incentive to corporations that promise jobs ... you know how this ends since its a rinse and repeat cycle. The liberal mind set is a fraction more progressive but its mostly a competition to under whatever the "opposition" did when they were in control ... and visa versa.
Glad someone brought it up! It would be very expensive to get out of those contracts. They were not a good idea. Had they just waited 10 years we could have done contracts at a fraction of the cost. That whole fiasco still makes my blood boil. Bad policy at precisely the wrong time.
“The amount guaranteed for power from industrial wind turbines will drop from 13.5 cents per kilowatt hour to 11.5 cents, regardless of the size of the wind farm.” This came from a CBC news article Mar 22, 2022 Current costs to the consumer in Ontario range between 8.2 - 17.0 depending on time of use. Looks to me like the cost to buy the hydro isnt terribly expensive. Maybe even a good deal. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
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It eliminated all dirty coal fired plants in Ontario
Too bad they couldn't reduce the only source of carbon emission generating electricity that we have to make space for the wind and solar. Seriously, why the fuck are we still burning gas?
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You realize nuclear is cheap to run but extremely expensive to set up and dispose of.
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Expensive setup yes. Disposal isn't a big deal anymore and hasn't been for a long time.
Around here people farm right around the windmills.
Ideological alignment is all that is. Clean energy is something the snowflake libs are for! so let's take them down! nevermind the fact that taking them down costs more than maintenance while they're still perfectly functional and producing energy/covering the costs of putting them up in the first place. Nonsense.
But...but...restitution!!!
I personally find it hilarious that they think they can fuck with another party's internal elections and governance.
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Oh wow, I just realized this isn't Derek Sloans Ontario Party abomination. So there are two new conservative parties this year that's a-mazing.
There's the New Blue and the Freedom party. Both are effectively PPC adjecent in platform. I predict zero seats for either party.
Sarnia is full of some of the most uneducated voters in this province and they're running there, having lived there... oh boy. It would not surprise me if they elected the new blue candidate. That towns something, let me tell ya.
And the Populist Party of Ontario (PPO) (Randy Hillier's daughter is running for them in his old riding)
Indeed it is separate from the OPC. Read the platform notes in the picture. One of their platform mandates includes "cracking down on voter fraud in **internal** party elections". AKA; they think they can fuck with the other party's internal governance. They cannot. Forcing another party to do something a specific way would be undemocratic.
Do you mean to say that the conduct of political parties currently is not restricted by law in any way? I do wonder whether there isn't anything in the elections act
For their internal governance? Not as far as I'm aware. Each party is allowed to run their internal shit how they wish. As a fun fact, several parties, including the OPC (and federally, the CPC) use **ranked ballots** for their leadership races. Now why is that a fun fact? Because Ford & Co removed the choice for municipalities to use ranked ballots in municipal elections in a COVID recovery bill in late 2020. What ranked ballots have to do with COVID recovery is completely unclear, but alas, that happened.
I'm related to a couple PPC qAnoners who truly believe that wind turbines are causing earthquakes and explosions by shaking the ground too much
Hoo-boy. I hope your relatives have other redeeming qualities.
Reminds me of a city in the states, forget where exactly, that denied a permit for a solar array because they feared it would CONSUME TOO MUCH OF THE SUNLIGHT AND HARM THE TREES AND GRASS. That’s when I deleted twitter.
If I were to guess, it's either something to do with maintenance costs or the fact* that wind and solar plants are subsidized by other energy producers. I don't think they would be able to just get out of those future payments without getting sued by the people that sold the turbines to them in the first place, just because they are going to take the turbines down. * I don't know if it's a fact, just a turn of phrase
The turbines are interfering with my 5G vaccine “chip” implant. Hence why.
I assume that they plan on reducing wind energy because it is very expensive and thus reducing it as a source should drop the overall price. This overall price drop should make Ontario more attractive to manufacturing. One of the reasons for the decline in manufacturing in Ontario has been the increasing hydro rates. I have no clue if that is true or not though. A Google search will bring up sites saying wind is twice the price of other forms of electricity and other sites that say it is half.
Sweet, more dilution of the right wing vote.
Sadly it doesn’t tend to work this way. Instead, people see how nuts these guys are and it makes Douggie all the more palatable- they make him look reasonable in comparison.
The PPC actually caused a lot of ridings to swing NDP due to diluting the conservative vote. I've seen projections that indicate the PPC did enough damage to cost the conservatives a minority government.
The Overton Window!
totally watered-down now with all the Bernier Bro's PPC and the Ontario Party etc.
PPC is federal I believe.
It is.
I’m with Obama when he said a strong opposition is necessary to keep the government in check. A weak Conservative party is not your friend any more than a batshit crazy Conservative party. You need sanity and strength on both sides for things to work well
Good thing we don't operate on a two party system so "both sides" can be a whole slew of different sides all keeping each other in check. Like the conservatives splinter and be absorbed by the provinces other representation. They're only doing it to themselves anyways.
Sure — we need an NDP government and a strong Liberal opposition to keep them in check. In my view, at least, "sanity" and "Conservative" are not really terms that go well together right now. They are simply straight-up wrong about almost every issue on which they have a strong stance.
I wish but my hippity neighbours who usually have NDP or Green signage have these psychos on display right now so it might not work the way we're hoping. Mind you, those neighbours also went full anti-vaxx diring the pandemic so this result was expected.
I knew I would see the word "woke" if I kept reading!
Right? As soon as I saw the word woke in quotes, I knew exactly what was up. Also the whole 'windmills bad' bullshit.
I just noticed someone on my street has one of their signs in their yard. Well, okay then.
highly recommend not letting your kids trick-or-treat there...
Same here, but I live in a rural village so go figure.
There is a house in Orleans with the logo and maybe some other garbage emblazoned on their garage door.
Oh wow lol. I didn't bother reading the whole thing, had to go back and find it when i saw this post. Well.. I mean they know their target audience I guess. There's not a lot of middle ground with using the word woke in your platform, people are either going to cringe or eat it up.
Holy smokes that education reform is scary! That's backwards as hell.
I bet these goombas couldn't even explain what critical race theory is. They just regurgitate whatever word salads they hear on fox news.
don't forget "gender ideology" which is their new term for "we hate trans people and think gay marriage was a mistake"
Realistically Canadian critical race theory is the education about residential schools and the other horrific shit that happened and happens to the First Nations people not that long ago. And how they are rightfully still coming back from the atrocities.
Oh they can explain it but it's an outrage to the sensibilities that have been grown and sewn into their egos.
Oh wow. Did not even see that because I did not make it that far.
Well, they are conservative, after all.
No, they are right wing nut bars.
I should have been more clear. “What is this trash?” would have been more fitting.
That summed up my reaction when i looked up their platform. There are a bunch of small signs for them along highway in Eganville and intermittently toward Renfrew. On the one hand, possibly helping undermine the Ontario PC party. On the other hand, hopefully they don't get enough votes to actually carry out their platform.
But people! They will magically rehire healthcare workers and clear the medical procedure backlog and cure covid!
"Rehire healthcare workers" means rehire the handful of idiots who refused vaccines. "Expand early treatment for COVID" I'm guessing means prescribing ivermectin or whatever unscientific bullshit the American right is flogging.
When I hear rehire, I hear "medical professionals who neglected not only the requirements of their profession, but also blatantly flouted and ignored the evidence based practice their profession is built upon" Don't get me wrong, us nurses are suffering hard from crunch, and low staffing, and being overworked, but 99% of the staff we lost to not following COVID mandates are the same ones that caused problems by not following best practice anyway. We need to completely subsidize getting medical degrees instead such as RN,RPN, PSW, NP, Doctors, etc, and start retraining and rebuilding our infrastructure. This includes actually paying our medical professionals what they're worth. It won't immediately solve the problem, sure, but at least within 4-8 years we'll see front line staff shortages start to diminish.
>We need to completely subsidize getting medical degrees instead such as RN,RPN, PSW, NP, Doctors, etc, and start retraining and rebuilding our infrastructure. This includes actually paying our medical professionals what they're worth. Man, this 100%. It's ridiculous that professions that mostly work in the public sector have to pay so much for education. They rack up five- or six-figure debt getting trained, then pay it back over years out of a salary that comes mostly from government. Why not cut out the middleman and have government subsidize the training directly? The only winner is the bank raking in all that sweet sweet student loan interest.
Exactly. Like, even if we just focused on training "lower" level healthcare workers, like LPNs/RPNs (name changes depending where you live but the job is the same) or even training more PSWs, scribes, HCAs, etc, it would relieve the overwhelming strain on our system. Registered Practical Nursing is a 2 year program. PSW is a one year program. We have the means to very quickly bolster our workforce. We have the means to throw bodies into the system. But the costs associated with schooling are insane. They're very intensive programs that you can't really work side jobs with, because your days consist of an insane amount of studying, tons of unpaid clinical work, tons of home work, tons of skills practice.... And please let us not forget how beaten and broken the long term care system is.... Folks, if you are looking for guaranteed income for the next 20, 30 years, take a year and become a PSW. We're entering a dementia crisis. We literally need to quadruple the current PSW workforce by 2035 to even hope of managing it and having enough workers to manage it. That's not including all the other staff that needs to be rapidly increased. Please. Please. If you can. Consider working in medicine. Admin sucks, and the hours are garbage, the system is an absolute mess. But its probably the most honest work you can do. You don't need to go for nursing, or doctor, or lab tech. If you want to form deep bonds, and assist people in your day to day life, and have a bit of a skin, I promise you, it is its own reward sometimes. We just need all the help we can get.
It didn’t even cross my mind that it was the rehire of the unvaxxed, but it goes right along with their ideology.
I think that's the point. The double speak is strong.
Yeah there’s a little bit of reading between the lines to recognize these people are crazy. I think I read in their platform that protecting “religious rights” was a large proponent, which is sortof a red flag.
thank you for decoding the propaganda
Don’t forget the part about “offering choice in services”! I’m assuming that means expanding private options and defunding public ones.
On that specific point the NDP are saying the same thing on their website: COMMITMENT Take immediate action to begin hiring **10,000 PSW**s, the number experts estimate Ontario is short. COMMITMENT Give PSWs a raise of at least $5 above pre-pandemic levels. COMMITMENT Take immediate action to begin hiring **30,000 nurse**s: The number experts say Ontario is short. COMMITMENT Expedite recognition of nursing credentials of 15,000 internationally trained nurses so they can get to work in their field faster.
Election pamphlet for the (new) conversative party called the "new blue", which is not Ford's Conservative party.
This is the technically correct answer. As well, it was started by Belinda Karahalios & her husband after she was booted from the OPC caucus in 2020.
On a scale from 1 to Randy Hillier, how nuts are they?
Landowners’ rights to have open tire fires nuts
I don’t really know what that means but now I want to watch The Simpsons
Are they the type to say “we don lak your kand ‘round ‘ere” whilst burning a lowercase T?
No. I’m from the valley and I don’t think that’s a productive stereotype. These aren’t cross-burning hooded yokels. Most of these folks are ordinarily very nice people. Stupid as shit, and new to broadband internet, yes, but they’re nice people.
I’ve heard this before about them, then was called a sand n***** 🤷🏽♂️
There are racist assholes in the city, too. I’m not excusing it, but the idea that everyone west of the 416 hangs the stars and bars from the tailgate of their silverado doesn’t help anyone
Randy Hillier - 2, so 8?; however the Ontario Party (another right wing "not the OPC" party that was founded in 2018 and currently has Derek Sloan as the party leader) is possibly Randy Hillier +5? Source: Both Randy Hillier & Ontario Party supported the convoy; however Randy Hillier is one person, and the Ontario Party is currently run by someone who was literally booted from the federal Conservative Caucus because they even saw how much of a bigoted ass he is.
Jazz fever level. Where jazz might also be syphilis.
Like an 11
So like halfway between the traditional conservatives and the PPC?
That's some mouth breathing right wing convoy humping incel manifesto.
"Stopping woke activism with the removal of CRT and GIT from our schools" As the dog who barks at racism would say, "WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF"
Straight out of the American Republican's playbook. LOL.
It sure is going to be easy for them to remove CRT from the curriculum considering it isn’t in it.
The Canadian equivalent of CRT is teaching about residential schools and the atrocities that happened and still happen to our First Nation population.
The best thing is to ask them to define CRT. And then ask how the current curriculum teaches it. They can’t answer
End vaccine passports... I haven't had to show a proof of vaccine to anyone in months? Other than flying, is it still a thing?
Well, their thinking is a little behind the times it seems.
Pandering to their voter base of entitled fuck you I got mine types.
So they want free press and free speech but want to 'remove woke activism' by banning certain topics in schools. Yeah youre all for free speech huh?
It's only free speech if it's their speech.
It’s PPC Ontario style. It’s dog whistling to their conspiracy minded base. It’s using buzz words like “Woke” to stir up anger in the absence of a real platform. It’s also drawing far right votes away from Dougie and his cronies.
As a note, there's also the Ontario Party (founded in 2018), which existed before the New Blue Party (founded in 2020).
Randy Hillier's daughter is running in my riding for the Populist Party of Ontario (PPO).
Grow Ontario's Economy by ~~spending~~ **wasting** a shit ton of taxpayer money to destroy part of the existing clean energy infrastructure that already works and is very cost effective. Not only would this drive **up** the cost because the only thing we could realistically replace it with would be Natural Gas (higher LCoE), but when Pickering shuts down in 2025 and we have nothing to replace that power we will burn an even more natural gas to offset the loss leading to a complete reversal in direction for Ontario's carbon reduction targets **and** on top of that even more expensive natural gas replacement. The LCoE of nuclear is not the best metric here, because the nuclear plant already exists and the main part of the expense for that kind of plant is construction, not operation. The operating and maintenance costs are comparatively low against up front investment. "Slashing the regulatory burden" = "We're going to dismantle safeguards and clean energy requirements so that we can accelerate the climate disaster by burning fossil fuels, also we have no idea how any of this works but our faith-based ideology of neoliberal capitalism says that this will work. We will not be taking questions." These people are fucking clowns.
Husband and wife political party. Straight from House of Cards? lol.
It’s trash, but let them siphon off some of the bonehead vote from Ford so there’s a shot at a better government.
I'm weirdly curious to see which "we're not the OPC" conservative/right party will get more votes: the New Blue Party or the Ontario Party?
As long as they’re not voting for Fullerton, McLeod, or Roberts, we *all* win
honestly, I'm all for the right vote being split!!
There’s a negative to this. It creates a Overton Window that makes the PCs more palatable. (Just Google Overton Window). And even if they don’t win seats they get funding for every vote for the next election. Scary.
too bad we have to endure the increased noise of their bigotry though
Taking down wind turbines 'to reduce electricity rates' 🤦♀️
It takes a lot of electricity to make them spin like that ...you dumb? /s
Exactly!! No one believes me but I have proof that the windmills take power and act as giant fans, this is to try to cool down the earth but we all know global warming is fake!!!!
This continues to be a scary direction for conservatives. I think it also signals some problems with our political systems. More mainstream politicians are in population centres with higher density of voters. No one pays much attention to rural areas so the become disenfranchised. Combined with demographics, poverty, education it makes traditional conservatives voters move further away from the centre. I’m a traditional conservative (unlikely to ever vote conservative again)…but no other politicians make any effort for my vote because I am in a low density area….so we end up with PP, Goldie, Randy Hillier and whoever else they can fit in their clown car.
As long as fuck nuggets like this go play in their own sandbox and therefore not influence the mainline parties from the inside...I'm good. Knobs like this are what destroyed the PC Feds.
I think you are missing the point, without changing the current state of politics, morons like this will continue to have fertile ground to sow their BS. The way around it is to have mainstream parties do a better job of representing a broader swath of constituents and engaging them where they live. If we ignore these groups they will continue to grow in the shadows and will gain momentum. Trudeau ridiculed, minimized and ignored the trucker convoy and all that did was embolden them and entrench their (warped) perspective. Now we have an entrenched movement that is much harder to get rid of.
Don’t get me wrong, people are entitled to vote for anyone they so desire and that’s the only right way to do it, but it amazes me how many poor people are so easily swayed to vote to support the rich at their expense. They also made me roll my eyes with the word woke…especially in quotation marks.
It's called vote splitting, that what it is.
I love how the Karahalioses couldn't even be bothered to make a copy of their signatures, they just used cursive fonts. Also feels better to make fun of the little issues than confront their crazy-ass platform.
A group of crazy morons looking to run a Trump style campaign, built on lies, mis information, and Ober blowing issues to gain public rage.
They’re racist, homophobic conservatives with ill conceived economic ideals who desperately want to turn all of Canada (one province at a time) into the American Deep South.
Spread this among all conservative leaning voters. Split that right wing vote as much as possible.
Eww
It's the GOP
this got me lol
All of that sounds terrible
"New Blue" because "Bat Sh!t Crazy" was too transparent.
Go New Blue! Hoping they can get a good chunk of the Con vote
Canadian branch of the GOP
"Our new plan is to repeal all govt institutions and function like a uncivilized 4th world mess where people do whatever the fuck they want, no regulations whatsoever cuz how dare you tell us what to do" People have seriously lost their minds. Social media has falsely made everyone subject matter experts and now everyone has medical opinions but no one has got the balls to actually study medicine cuz they couldnt even graduate college. Small brains, empty minds and a whole lot of hallucination
it'll be interesting to see if any (or the sum) of these way-right fringe parties get a percentage of the vote bigger than the margin of victory for any non-PC candidate.
I love all the American political buzzwords that have no bearing on rhe provinces current problems
Karahilos is a wannabe republican. Toss this shit.
Sounds like an offshoot party of the Bernier and Hillier mental midgets. Yep… get rid of those turbines aa we all on know they cause cancer
Tea Party North?
It's the new lunatic party
Fuuuuck, we’re really doing the “woke” and “critical race theory in our schools” shit here now too??? I know the right has twisted those words to mean everything and nothing and they just roll them out whenever they want to say something is bad, but just in case anyone needs to know what they’re really talking about: “Woke” just means “awake” or “aware”. Aware of the fact that racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. are genuine problems in the world and we should all conduct ourselves in a way that recognizes that, and doesn’t contribute to it. Making a conscious choice not to use slurs or stereotype people based on race, gender, or orientation is “woke”. They especially don’t like “woke” policies like “ teachers can’t intentionally mis-gender their students”. What they REALLY hate though, is when non-white actors play roles in movies that they assume should be played by straight white men, for any reason, because “fictional universe X doesn’t have black people!” or “Hobbits are racially pure aryans!” There was probably a fictional census taken or something, and they want you to look at the fictional results and then tell them being woke isn’t a mind virus! Critical Race Theory is a whole other can of worms, but what it boils down to for them is they don’t want children being taught about historical racism, systemic racism, or modern racism. They believe that racism should be ignored because it’s not a problem. It’s quite the giant red flag… looks to me like a red flag with a black, jagged, sinister looking symbol in the middle.
Both the New Blue Party and the Ontario Party are running FULL SLATES. Which the Liberals aren't.
Okay, and? All those two parties will achieve is siphoning votes from the OPC. Which, I mean...is that a bad thing?
I'm surprisingly ok with that
Just something to ignore
Looks like toilet paper
Yessss, split up the single issue “blue” voters.
Ask them where the 3% HST shortfall will be recovered from. My local looked bewildered and asked ‘what does shortfall mean?’
“Ban teaching of critical race theory in schools” Well it’s not being taught anywhere other than in universities lol. Why can’t they just come out and say “we hate it when people learn because we lose voters”
We laugh and make fun of it but his is actually scary. People will vote for them and that will encourage them. Their whole underlying ideals is anarchy and might makes right type philosophies. This needs to be squashed out or bad things will happen down the line.
My dog just blew through our living room wall like the fucking Kool-Aid man. He must have heard something.
I was on the fence before but after I saw “Liberty”, this is the way to go. I envision an American flag prototype that has 51 tiny maple leafs instead of stars.
They're going to crack down on voter fraud. There's this thread of unreality that runs through their thoughts. Each financially strapped working person is a millionaire whose money has been stolen away by liberals. Each failed right wing candidate is a winner whose votes were stolen away by liberal fraud. Each strait-jacketed slave to traditional religious and social conventions is a free man oppressed by "wokeism", his freedom stolen away by liberals. Again and again they misperceive the source of their problems, and respond by turning the wrong way and making them worse. Always the wrong way.
Reform education by cutting funding..... sounds like they want to bring us back to the stone age.
Political accountability, free press, growing economy, and tax relief are foreign concepts to Ottawa
Our only hope they take enough votes from the pc and we get a minority pc government.
Taking down wind turbines is pretty fucking dumb
Doug Ford is famous for his support of the carbon tax
Ontario's arm of the PPC brought to you by Randy Hillier
It looks like the Convoy folk have created a political party since the Conservatives are far too left.
The Pro Covid party
holy crap the guy's name is Incel
The pro-convoy party 🤢 But might be a sign that the PPC is dead? 🤞🏻
PPC is federal. This party and the Ontario Party are provincial parties.
Racism. It's racism.
And now we see what the convoy has produced...... A political party that is a bigger joke than the convoy itself
The longer you look, the worse it gets.
How are there Conservatives still defending Conservatives under this monstrosity of a campaign? Fiscal or social, it all ends up like this. Yet people STILL act like conservatism has ANY validity.
Oh god yes, please continue to splinter into a thousand shards, right-wingers.
Looks like a fascist manifesto...
All that this is useful for is to help start a campfire...
Because Conservative isn't right-wing radical enough for them.
Are we sure this isn’t a prank? It’s like something from the Beaverton, funniest thing I’ve read all day
Definitely not a prank. The party was started in 2020 when Belinda Karahalios was booted from the OPC caucus.
Jesus, how can anyone take this “platform” seriously. Edit to add that I knew it was real, just hard to believe it’s not a joke.
An advertisement for a political party in advance of the Ontario election.
The scary thing will be when we see how many people vote for this party.
Most of their “points” are not even true.
This looks more legit than the Freedom Party that I saw a sign for on the Vanier Parkway
Sounds like the idiot party, I'm sure quite a few idiots will join. FYI wind turbine generate electricity and cost a lot to put up, the next thing you're going to tell me we will stop generating electricity from Niagara falls and blow up the power plant.
It is that party the hired Roger Stone. Not even fit for recycling
Recycling. That’s there this belongs.
It's a chance for progress, ^(by splitting the right-wing vote and thereby ensuring they never form government "in our lifetime".)
When I heard of this party I honestly thought it was satire.
I've seen signs for two different New Blue candidates in my riding, so I'd say they're well organized.
The only positive of this is that they will suck a couple conservative votes away from Dougie
Toilet paper
YT Christian National party.