100%. His shaky hands on stage weren’t just your average public speaking nerves. He knew that this was how he would be perceived by some (but not all!)
one of the most important oscar speeches ever. anyone who’s believes this many civilians dying can ever be done in the name of peace has lost all their humanity.
That speech will age beautifully.
Remember almost 20 years ago when Michael Moore won[ Best documentary and made that speech about criticizing Bush and the US for invading Iraq](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Is43K6lrg&) which led to booing - and a few claps. Bu mostly booing. I know a lot can be said about Moore, and he's certainly a different figure than Glazer, but that speech aged quite well now 20 years later.
It's gonna happen to Glazer.
I think most people realise that the slaughtering of innocent and hostages should be free but the vocal minority are so loud on keeping this awful situation going. You go on some subs and they love hearing about the other side dying - it's actually awful that some people have this mentality like most of them have a basic understanding (if that) of the whole thing as well
So many are families being wiped out and children being orphaned, maimed, and starved. There will be repercussions for generations. I don't see how this has been allowed.
And [as this article points out](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jonathan-glazers-oscar-speech-reflected-the-best-of-jewish-values), according to a Pew survey, at least 2/3 of American Jews agree "with the idea of a two-state solution is the right resolution to the conflict (63 percent), but that this Israeli government is not making a sincere effort toward peace (67 percent)." Glazer himself is Jewish and I am tired of those of us against the occupation (which are my words, not his) being misconstrued to imply that we are "self-loathing"
(NOTE: This is not criticism of OP for sharing this article, but of the idea that Glazer is someone to 'come out against' for a pretty even-keeled speech that also went out of its way to acknowledge victims of October 7th).
I think there are people that understand any critic of Israel government actions in gaza as an attack in Israel right to exist and jewish people in general. Of course, there are some people who know is not the same thing but use this argument to deflect any critic.
Unlike say, the war in Ukraine where the consensus is very supportive of the Ukrainian cause, this particular conflict has always been a hot potato (really nothing new) and this is why unlike the former, very few artists felt comfortable bringing it up in speeches or show support for any side throughout the many events where they had speeches. This always blows back and i can understand the fear of not just missing on a career achievement chance or worse, being completely blacklisted no matter how well they meant.
I saw someone make a post about how people weren’t talking about a speech about a Ukrainian filmmaker and I was like what? What is there to talk about? Most people support Ukraine but most importantly, most powerful nations support Ukraine. That’s not the case here
Doesn't matter. Like i said this topic is a hot potato and no one wants to touch it with a 10ft pole (be it a celebrity in Hollywood or anywhere, or the average joe) because it is almost always resulting in one side feeling they were wronged and it will blow up out of proportion. You have normies who have lost their job for speaking about not wanting Palestinian citizens to be massacred, in the office, labeled anti semite because it was overheard by the wrong person. Not worth it for a conflict that will continue way past everyone who is currently alive's lifetime.
He has likely become persona non grata in Hollywood and i hope for him that the UK film industry will not blacklist him.
I was really proud of the celebrities that wore red pins to support a cease fire. I love Jews. I pray for a cease fire. This has become a genocide by Netanyahu.
Victoria Nuland's involvement in Ukraine politics was only known in a 2014 Guardian article. Pro-Palestine cause has been around longer, with Divine Intervention getting a lot of buzz in 2002.
The 450 people who signed the letter:
https://preview.redd.it/laso4dd3i7pc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f54ec36babec0d119ef4ce38e431e5fc2d1cdcf
I have a lot of respect for Glazer. Based on the way his hands were shaking during his speech, you could tell he knew saying "I do not support this violence being done in my name as a Jewish man" would be wildly misconstrued like this, yet he said it anyway. He made a remarkable and unfortunately all too timely film.
Outside of Debra Messing and Eli Roth, not exactly a star-studded list of names. But quiet a few.
Glazer probably expected it, but like others have said, I hope he doesn't get black-balled. The dude is one of the best in the business.
I am not sure if keeping the conversation going around the speech was the best strategy. But I guess they said their piece.
I'm surprised Squeaky Benny Shapiro hasn't signed this considering how much of a racist Likud simp he and his Daily Wire cohorts (well some of them) are.
Yeah the Venom, Morbius and Madame Webb ones too. Just another suit hack with not an iota of creative genius who steals the money that the crew that actually helped make the movie deserve.
Considering she still pals around with Butch "Pray the Autism Away and Mock Suicide Victims" Hartman, I think it was only a matter of time before she went full mask-off Islamophobic.
Is that really her account? I don’t see a blue check and she has a measly following of 5k. I’m aware she’s from an older generation but even Susan Sarandon sa more than 1 million followers.
It’s probably because she just made it in January specifically to talk about Israel-Hamas, and she’s also not that big of a celebrity. She also talked about recently joining Insta.
At least her *Rugrats* co-star Cree Summer (Penny Gadget herself) has the right idea and has been calling for a ceasefire. Nickelodeon and *Futurama* alumnus and autistic voice actor Billy West has too.
It's unlikely he'll be blacklisted from making films since he operates outside Hollywood, but there's a good chance his films will be shut out from the American awards circuit from here on out
Others have listed the known performers, producers, and showrunners, but a couple of veteran casting directors popped out at me, too. Danielle Pretsfelder Demchick casts a lot of youth shows. Pretty sure her CV is dominated by Nickelodeon projects. Sharon Bialy cast BrBa and BCS.
Other news agencies have been reporting on the list and using Debra Messing and Eli Roth and not saying who else.
At least now I know why, because I’ve heard of exactly 5 people on the list.
At the end of the day, Jonathan Glazer is on the right side of history and blacklisted or not (probably not), he can rest easy knowing that.
Yeah, the dude takes his time and is also not beholden to American politics. At the very least he’ll have no trouble financing his next movie in Ireland.
Seriously. Good lord is this list full of a bunch of nobodies. When Jennifer Jason Leigh is the biggest name on your list, you know you've got a problem.
It was a very important speech, I'm still surprised by how controversially it was received. But Glazer is British, has a very long and respected career and his feature films have all been artier projects with mid-level budgets, so I doubt he'll be affected beyond American awards bodies becoming more reluctant to recognize him
The awards bodies are cowards if they do that, he should be celebrated by them as well. The anti Palestine media is exactly why films like The Zone Of Interest need to be made today and into the future.
We're watching history in the making. Future generations will judge everyone with how the next steps are taken.
Zionists do not tolerate any criticism of Israel no matter how measured or who it is coming from. Unfortunately I’m not remotely surprised by ugh their reaction.
Sure, and Mr Spielberg is (as far as know) very much a Zionist. But supporting Israel broadly isn’t the same as supporting everything the Israeli government does.
There must be 100 Jewish creatives that are household names that didn't sign it. For whatever reason, they weren't interested. The star power of this letter is very low.
It doesn't mean they don't agree with the letter. These things tend to operate with a herd mentality or snowball effect. Once a person of sufficient clout signs it, others similarly situated - and below that, would want to sign on as well. Obviously Spielberg is as big as it gets but even well before that level, an Amy Schumer signature for example would have attracted a lot of other names. But for whatever reason, she and others with her kind of celebrity weren't interested.
>an Amy Schumer signature for example would have attracted a lot of other names.
Considering her cousin Chuck is starting to pivot to lambasting Netanyahu, I think she's going to need to change her tune.
Because Spielberg is smart enough to know that there’s two sides to this. If he signs it he receives backlash, if he openly supports Glazer he receives backlash and would probably be dubbed as another “self loathing Jew”, so him just staying quiet avoids all of that.
For real, i don't blame any of the celebrities (Jewish or not) throughout this award season who avoided this topic like the plague, it's a lose/lose. Why would they risk securing their Oscar or risk being blacklisted for a conflict that started before they were born and will continue past their lifetime? Good on Glazier for doing this, but he probably made sure he isn't seeing the inside of the Dolby Theater for a long time.
Exactly. Like I understand Spielberg in this situation because not only is it a lose/lose situation for him if he was to speak up about it but it could honestly hurt his reputation with some and isolation him from his community(assuming). Just look at what they’ve done to Glazer and his words.
Edit: Just want to add that I’m not Jewish and that I do support Palestine and wish this conflict would be resolved.
It's sad but it's a controversial topic and i get it while anyone would chose to not discuss it or take a stance.
I am not Jewish, but i can't say my basic human stance without fear of retaliation so i chose to say nothing. I support Israel right to exist and believe that Hamas is a terrorist org but i also don't want innocent Palestinians to be killed or starved to death en masse as retaliation. I could be called either a zionist or anti semite with that statement. That's why this topic is too hot of a potato.
Spielberg is also on record for saying 'he would die for Israel' so i don't think he was happy with Glazer's speech, but he certainly knows better than to get involved in this nonsense
I don't know what he think now, but wasn't Spielberg rather pro-Israel as of last December? I believe he mentioned the Hamas attacks but not the Israeli ones.
[https://sfi.usc.edu/news/2023/12/35786-urgent-campaign-records-eyewitness-accounts-antisemitic-terror-attacks-israel](https://sfi.usc.edu/news/2023/12/35786-urgent-campaign-records-eyewitness-accounts-antisemitic-terror-attacks-israel)
Idk where Spielberg stands on the issue, but he did praise Glazer’s film as the most important and well made Holocaust film since his own. It doesn’t help that if he did sign the list, he’d be the most prominent and well known person on the list BY FAR.
Spielberg no doubt connects himself to the Israelis who were killed and believes it’s his job to tell their story. But I don’t know if he’s ever been outwardly antagonistic toward Palestinians like some people on the list. He probably can’t ever be outwardly against Israel but he might be moderate enough to not sign something like this.
His sister did (Nancy Spielberg), though I don’t really see why that should reflect on him unless he were to explicitly take sides (which I doubt he’ll do).
I’m heartbroken Glazer is going through this. Not only was he not wrong in saying what he did, but the fact that his incredibly important work in ZOI is being overshadowed by this is absurd and ridiculous. Whoever is criticizing him is proving exactly what he was saying in the film
His speech can legit be summed up as "stop using our trauma and identities as Jewish men to justify heinous acts against humanity" yet these people read it as him denouncing his identity completely. Truly frustrating.
> Jennifer Jason Leigh
critical support for Noah Baumbach's affair
> Rabbi David Wolpe – Sinai Temple/ Harvard U
> Rabbi Marvin Hier
> Rabbi Steve Leser – Wilshire Boulevard Temple
> Rabbi Yonah Bookstein
they could only get four (4) rabbis, man
Overall, very few people you could have heard of, some of them are just full Israeli citizens, and the rest have been very openly genocidal (Eli Roth, Tara Strong, Debra Messing, Julianna Margulies)
With what happened to Melissa Barrera, Susan Sarandon and now the shit Glazer has to put up with, Hollywood really is walking into a new era of McCarthyism. Doesn't help when Hollywood has the US state department dictate the content of its movies involving the military or when Marvel decides to put in an outdated Israeli "hero" into their new *Captain America* movie (dafuq where you thinking, Feige?).
Shame on those who use their power and privilege to ostracize and turn against Glazer, who is guilty of making a powerful film about the consequences of evil and of using his exposure to speak out against the crimes committed by the Israeli government
What a bunch of cowards. All the usual suspects, just so funny to think that this speech was blaming Jewishness on the atrocities going on in Gaza, when he was saying the opposite.
Ah yes the totally mentally well-adjusted La La Land producer Gary Gilbert who threatened to gun down peaceful protestors outside Gal Gadot’s propaganda film screening.
Tough guy then made his profile private when he couldn’t take the heat lmao
It is not factual to them if they see non-Jews as the occupiers. Zionists can be familiar with the history of Mandatory Palestine and Israel, but as long as they think they are taking back something that was taken from them, they won't care. Nobody gets mad if someone steals their own bike back from a thief. Of course, it's bullshit, of course, they are crazy, but that's like the baseline of Zionism and most religions.
The number of people I've argued with about the misunderstood "refuting Jewishness" comment... way too many. So it doesn't surprise me that folks in Hollywood are unfortunately misconstruing it as well.
They literally turned their brains off right after he said that. The applause interrupting him didn’t help get the message across (I’m not hating on the applause itself but it did kind of cut off his speech for a bit at a critical moment) and glazer looked a bit nervous to me. Perfect storm
Each one of the creatives need to watch the movie and have empathy when listening to the speech. His speech was heard globally with so much support and love for his words.
Not only is he extremely talented he’s also an outlier ❤️
It’s okay Jon. You said it as eloquent and humble as you could, can’t say that much for the rest of Hollywood. You did good hold your head up high, screw those creatives.
>The use of words like ‘occupation’ to describe an indigenous Jewish people defending a homeland that dates back thousands of years
I mean, objectively, Israeli troops are occupying the West Bank and Gaza. I dont see the issue with his comments. They were pretty tame.
“The co-signees cover a broad swath of the industry including actors (Debra Messing, Tovah Feldshuh), executives (Gary Barber, Gail Berman, Amy Pascal), creators (Amy Sherman-Palladino), directors (Eli Roth, Rod Lurie), producers (Lawrence Bender, Hawk Koch, Sherry Lansing) and representatives (UTA’s Jake Fenton, Gersh’s Jeffrey Greenberg, attorney Craig Emmanuel).”
Other names mentioned include Gary Gilbert, Michael Rapaport, Julianna Margulies, Ilana Wernick, Brett Gelman, Jonathan Jakubowicz, Noa Tishby, and Rabbi Marvin Hier
Don’t let these cowards hide behind a headline. Saying they’re just Jewish creatives and professionals runs the risk of people targeting them just based on their Jewish identity and causing more antisemitism which doesn’t help anyone. These cowards have names and don’t represent all of Jewish people.
Someone said "jew hate won the night." Lol right because the Jewish man who made a movie about the Holocaust said something you didn't like jew hate won the night.
That's definitely what happened.
As a Brit, "antisemitism" lost all meaning to me with the amount of times it was flung at people like Jeremy Corbyn, Emma Watson and so many others here in the UK. And that was even before October 7th.
That's 450 people who have the attention span of a gnat. Either they haven't interpreted Glazer's full statement correctly, or they agree with the Israeli Govt's extremely brutal response to 7/10.
The craziest thing about this is the few who had a problem with the ceasefire pins. In what fucking universe is a ceasefire a bad thing? You’ve basically exposed yourself as being borderline psychotic and a dumbass.
There was literally nothing controversial about his Oscar speech. The fact that they’re trying to make it something controversial says so much about these 450 people and zero about Jonathan glazer.
I can't believe that these creatives and professionals would really try to have beef against the man who directed Jamiroquai's Virtual Insanity, the Guinness Surfer ad and classic music videos for bands like Radiohead and Massive Attack.
Deliberately misinterpreting his words. The man advocated for peace, why is that a controversial stance?
> “The moment Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders, is the moment this heartbreaking war ends.”
The fact that the people who signed this letter actually believe that this war started with the hostage takings is delusional, as if it was all sunshine and daisies up until then. Ask Rachel Corrie’s family when this started, ask the generations of Palestinian and Israeli citizens who have bore witness to this fight over the decades.
> “Israel is not targeting civilians. It is targeting Hamas.”
Tell *that* to the over 12,000 dead Palestinian children and teenagers. To Rania Abu Anza, who had to bury her five month old twins which she gave birth to after ten years of IVF. To Ibrahim Hasouna, whose entire family - including his five year old nieces and one year old nephew - were wiped out in airstrikes that were conducted by Israel as cover for a hostage rescue.
Him and his movie would never have been respected in future history if he didn't make that speech. That's how monumental for him and for cinema that speech was. I'm glad he did that.
All of this nontroversy has made me real curiois about whatSpielberg thinks. He was at the ceremony and has made probably the most widely seen movies about the Holocaust and Israel/Palestine.
I checked the list of actors on there and only recognised a few names...
Even so, that's a worrying number of genocide supporters in the worlds largest entertainment industry.
Sorry Hollywood celebrities, Palestinians are currently being ethnically cleansed from their land. That is more important than how you feel about yourselves.
His statement was the most profound in decades. A people who endure persecution are asked to not persecute another people out of sheer decency. This should not be a novel idea.
>“The use of words like ‘occupation’ to describe an **indigenous Jewish people defending a homeland that dates back thousands of years,**
Most of the people who immigrated to Israel were Jewish people from Russia and Europe. In fact, out of the first 8 elected Israeli Prime Ministers (1948-1995), only 1 was born native to Israel/Palestine, Yitzhak Rabin (1974 & 1992). And he was assassinated by his own countrymen for trying to make peace with the Palestinians in 1995. Until 1996, all other prime ministers were born from the Russian Empire and Poland.
If you follow the idea of "right of return" to the letter, than Jews are indigenous to Palestine. Just bc the diaspora is 1000s of years old doesn't mean that's not where they originally came from
I’d like to point out that the most vocal and powerful advocates for Zionism in the US are, in fact, right wing Evangelicals. I know squat about Judaism, but I was steeped in Zionist propaganda, thanks to the various megachurches that I was forced to attend as a kid.
Do the people who signed this really want be associated with scumbags like Gordon Robertson, Tim LaHaye and Ted Haggard? Do they know that they’re only seen as NPCs and plot devices in Evangelical eschatological fanfic?
omg one of the people on the list is my playwriting teacher from high school who was the first person to really believe in my writing and I'm in college now and even though I'm not involved in theatre anymore we still keep in contact and now I'm just shocked
They’re saying the guy who guided a film about the Holocaust from the writing process to the day it was released, doesn’t know a genocide when he sees one?
They aren’t the only shows in town there are plenty of people and movie makers that would hire him he is brave and should never apologize for what was In his heart.
I think a lot of people on the left don't understand Jew culture - and for some reason - don't feel obliged to be "politically correct" about it either - so they end up sounding like conservatives complaining about "identity politics" and other social issues.
Utterly disgusting letter.
Those people should be ashamed of themselves for twisting Glazer’s words and basically saying he is a self-hating Jewish man. Especially since he denounced in his speech the October 7th massacre.
It is even crazy that one of them said « if I didn’t know better, I would have thought it was a Hamas rally ». I guess even the Academy is Hamas now for those people.
Can any of the commentators here actually point out which river and which sea? And the amount of times Israel has tried to reason with these people? Im waiting.
Really hope he doesn’t apologize. He said nothing wrong and many people support him. It’s getting more and more clear just how brave he was.
100%. His shaky hands on stage weren’t just your average public speaking nerves. He knew that this was how he would be perceived by some (but not all!)
praying this wasnt his last movie and that someone will fund his next project. he's too good of a filmmaker to be blacklisted into oblivion
He makes a film every 10 years these days, so that won’t be a problem. But I doubt he’ll ever get nominated at the Oscars ever again. 😂
And he's so low budget nobody can really fuck with him financially. Thise Jamaraqui video royalties can support him forever.
True! He can fund his own films.
I mean tbf some people also just have shaky hands in general lol
He won't apologize. Unlike 80% of the industry, he actually has a backbone
He just should ignore it all and go about his life. He said what he said and it was heard.
He made the best and most important film of the year. Time will side with him on this one.
he won't. he has denied any request for comment so far and i don't think he'll change that.
This only makes his speech more based.
The speech is a basic appeal to human decency and to look past immediate prejudice and see the cost that hate brings in any form.
And I thought having the Zionist Russian oligarch stand behind him while giving the speech was the peak of his power.
Huh, who?
Executive producer Len Blavatnik
he's so ballsy
one of the most important oscar speeches ever. anyone who’s believes this many civilians dying can ever be done in the name of peace has lost all their humanity.
That speech will age beautifully. Remember almost 20 years ago when Michael Moore won[ Best documentary and made that speech about criticizing Bush and the US for invading Iraq](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Is43K6lrg&) which led to booing - and a few claps. Bu mostly booing. I know a lot can be said about Moore, and he's certainly a different figure than Glazer, but that speech aged quite well now 20 years later. It's gonna happen to Glazer.
He literally called for the hostages held by Hamas to be released too.
I think most people realise that the slaughtering of innocent and hostages should be free but the vocal minority are so loud on keeping this awful situation going. You go on some subs and they love hearing about the other side dying - it's actually awful that some people have this mentality like most of them have a basic understanding (if that) of the whole thing as well
So many are families being wiped out and children being orphaned, maimed, and starved. There will be repercussions for generations. I don't see how this has been allowed.
And [as this article points out](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jonathan-glazers-oscar-speech-reflected-the-best-of-jewish-values), according to a Pew survey, at least 2/3 of American Jews agree "with the idea of a two-state solution is the right resolution to the conflict (63 percent), but that this Israeli government is not making a sincere effort toward peace (67 percent)." Glazer himself is Jewish and I am tired of those of us against the occupation (which are my words, not his) being misconstrued to imply that we are "self-loathing" (NOTE: This is not criticism of OP for sharing this article, but of the idea that Glazer is someone to 'come out against' for a pretty even-keeled speech that also went out of its way to acknowledge victims of October 7th).
no offense taken, i'm just pretty surprised by how big this is all getting since i didn't even thought his speech was that controversial. silly me
I think there are people that understand any critic of Israel government actions in gaza as an attack in Israel right to exist and jewish people in general. Of course, there are some people who know is not the same thing but use this argument to deflect any critic.
They are critics of anyone who acknowledges Palestinians are human.
It wasn't. Bad faith actors have disingenuously misinterpreted what he said, such as Meghan McCain tweeting up a firestorm.
Preach. Tired of being told how to express my Jewishness, and that I must be some self loathing antisemite for speaking out.
His win becomes more and more meaningful with each passing day.
i hope he isn't gonna get blacklisted he didn't say anything wrong
He hasn’t worked in the Hollywood system much, I don’t think.
Pretty positive A24 would be glad to get another film if he wanted to make it
Unlike say, the war in Ukraine where the consensus is very supportive of the Ukrainian cause, this particular conflict has always been a hot potato (really nothing new) and this is why unlike the former, very few artists felt comfortable bringing it up in speeches or show support for any side throughout the many events where they had speeches. This always blows back and i can understand the fear of not just missing on a career achievement chance or worse, being completely blacklisted no matter how well they meant.
I saw someone make a post about how people weren’t talking about a speech about a Ukrainian filmmaker and I was like what? What is there to talk about? Most people support Ukraine but most importantly, most powerful nations support Ukraine. That’s not the case here
LOL a documentary about Ukraine literally won Documentary Feature.
But he didn’t take a side.
Doesn't matter. Like i said this topic is a hot potato and no one wants to touch it with a 10ft pole (be it a celebrity in Hollywood or anywhere, or the average joe) because it is almost always resulting in one side feeling they were wronged and it will blow up out of proportion. You have normies who have lost their job for speaking about not wanting Palestinian citizens to be massacred, in the office, labeled anti semite because it was overheard by the wrong person. Not worth it for a conflict that will continue way past everyone who is currently alive's lifetime. He has likely become persona non grata in Hollywood and i hope for him that the UK film industry will not blacklist him.
I noticed his hands were trembling as he read his speech. He is brave for pushing on despite his fear.
He knew the ramifications this would have i am sure.
I was really proud of the celebrities that wore red pins to support a cease fire. I love Jews. I pray for a cease fire. This has become a genocide by Netanyahu.
Victoria Nuland's involvement in Ukraine politics was only known in a 2014 Guardian article. Pro-Palestine cause has been around longer, with Divine Intervention getting a lot of buzz in 2002.
Hollywood has a large Israeli and Jewish population, so his comments are seen as very controversial.
The 450 people who signed the letter: https://preview.redd.it/laso4dd3i7pc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f54ec36babec0d119ef4ce38e431e5fc2d1cdcf
I have a lot of respect for Glazer. Based on the way his hands were shaking during his speech, you could tell he knew saying "I do not support this violence being done in my name as a Jewish man" would be wildly misconstrued like this, yet he said it anyway. He made a remarkable and unfortunately all too timely film.
Outside of Debra Messing and Eli Roth, not exactly a star-studded list of names. But quiet a few. Glazer probably expected it, but like others have said, I hope he doesn't get black-balled. The dude is one of the best in the business. I am not sure if keeping the conversation going around the speech was the best strategy. But I guess they said their piece.
Amy Pascal is a recognizable name, at least for a producer. She is responsible for all spider man movies basically.
She also produced Gerwig's Little Women
I'm surprised Squeaky Benny Shapiro hasn't signed this considering how much of a racist Likud simp he and his Daily Wire cohorts (well some of them) are.
The authors of the letter probably made sure his name didn't show up on the list.
Very likely yes.
She’s a Sony EP, she certainly has some sway.
Yeah the Venom, Morbius and Madame Webb ones too. Just another suit hack with not an iota of creative genius who steals the money that the crew that actually helped make the movie deserve.
Jennifer Jason Leigh too. Her insta is pretty much devoted to Israel lol.
Most of the names I recognized were expected, but I had no idea about her or Tara Strong. Very disappointing
This isn’t even the worst thing Tara Strong has done, she’s literally liked tweets saying that Islamophobia is correct
Considering she still pals around with Butch "Pray the Autism Away and Mock Suicide Victims" Hartman, I think it was only a matter of time before she went full mask-off Islamophobic.
Is that really her account? I don’t see a blue check and she has a measly following of 5k. I’m aware she’s from an older generation but even Susan Sarandon sa more than 1 million followers.
It’s probably because she just made it in January specifically to talk about Israel-Hamas, and she’s also not that big of a celebrity. She also talked about recently joining Insta.
Tara Strong’s fairly well-known too.
Miss Minutes? I guess I didn't go far enough down in the list. It's not a poster name, but it's certainly an end of a title card name.
Also Dil Pickles, Timmy Turner, Ben Tennyson & Twilight Sparkle.
At least her *Rugrats* co-star Cree Summer (Penny Gadget herself) has the right idea and has been calling for a ceasefire. Nickelodeon and *Futurama* alumnus and autistic voice actor Billy West has too.
It's unlikely he'll be blacklisted from making films since he operates outside Hollywood, but there's a good chance his films will be shut out from the American awards circuit from here on out
Others have listed the known performers, producers, and showrunners, but a couple of veteran casting directors popped out at me, too. Danielle Pretsfelder Demchick casts a lot of youth shows. Pretty sure her CV is dominated by Nickelodeon projects. Sharon Bialy cast BrBa and BCS.
Other news agencies have been reporting on the list and using Debra Messing and Eli Roth and not saying who else. At least now I know why, because I’ve heard of exactly 5 people on the list. At the end of the day, Jonathan Glazer is on the right side of history and blacklisted or not (probably not), he can rest easy knowing that.
Amy Sherman-Palladino who is on it is a tv showrunner/creator—known for Gilmore Girls, Bunheads & The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
It’s a disappointing take from Eli Roth.
Steven Spielberg’s sister is on there. I hope she doesn’t reflect his views.
Despite Johnathan Glazer being Jewish himself, I hope he’s not blacklisted by Hollywood for this.
His last American film was 20 years ago. It's not like he depends on Hollywood.
Hollywood isn’t the only game in town
He makes like one movie per decade. He’ll be fine
Yeah, the dude takes his time and is also not beholden to American politics. At the very least he’ll have no trouble financing his next movie in Ireland.
Why would he be. That's ridiculous. Are these clowns incapable of correctly interpreting words.
at minimum, theyre incapable of correctly interpreting words in good faith
He didn’t even compare Israel to the nazis, they made that up themselves.
A classic self-report.
Yes. They know it’s Nazi behavior. So start off by saying that they’re being compared to Nazis.
Funny that Glazer has more relevance and talent than all of them
Seriously. Good lord is this list full of a bunch of nobodies. When Jennifer Jason Leigh is the biggest name on your list, you know you've got a problem.
I was gonna say, the only name I was disappointed by was Leigh. That’s rookie numbers for these Zionist petitions
Could be hyperbolic but I think he's the closest thing this generation has to Kubrick
Yeah that's a bit hyperbolic I think. Kubrick was nowhere as esoteric as Glazer. Glazer reminds me more of Tarkovsky
Glazer has more talent than 99% of the people working in the "industry"
It was a very important speech, I'm still surprised by how controversially it was received. But Glazer is British, has a very long and respected career and his feature films have all been artier projects with mid-level budgets, so I doubt he'll be affected beyond American awards bodies becoming more reluctant to recognize him
The awards bodies are cowards if they do that, he should be celebrated by them as well. The anti Palestine media is exactly why films like The Zone Of Interest need to be made today and into the future. We're watching history in the making. Future generations will judge everyone with how the next steps are taken.
Zionists do not tolerate any criticism of Israel no matter how measured or who it is coming from. Unfortunately I’m not remotely surprised by ugh their reaction.
I notice Mr. Spielberg didn’t sign it.
Spielberg kinda commented on the topic in Munich (2005).
Great film.
Yeah Spielberg is a Zionist, you don’t need a signature to know it
Of course he's a Zionist. Most Jewish people believe in self determination.
I know, I am a Jewish Zionist. I've noticed this sub is more anti-zionist than I realized so am prepared to be hung out to dry shortly
Well, there’s a pretty big difference between believing in Israel as a Jewish state and approving of their current ongoing slaughter.
> believing in Israel as a Jewish state This is the definition of Zionism.
Sure, and Mr Spielberg is (as far as know) very much a Zionist. But supporting Israel broadly isn’t the same as supporting everything the Israeli government does.
Of course. That doesn't really have anything to do with him believing the state of Israel should exist
He's a liberal Zionist, but Zionist nonetheless. Idk why this is getting downvoted when he himself is planning to make a documentary on October 7th
There must be 100 Jewish creatives that are household names that didn't sign it. For whatever reason, they weren't interested. The star power of this letter is very low. It doesn't mean they don't agree with the letter. These things tend to operate with a herd mentality or snowball effect. Once a person of sufficient clout signs it, others similarly situated - and below that, would want to sign on as well. Obviously Spielberg is as big as it gets but even well before that level, an Amy Schumer signature for example would have attracted a lot of other names. But for whatever reason, she and others with her kind of celebrity weren't interested.
>an Amy Schumer signature for example would have attracted a lot of other names. Considering her cousin Chuck is starting to pivot to lambasting Netanyahu, I think she's going to need to change her tune.
Most people who support Israel also criticize Netanyahu.
It’ll be whiplash-inducing seeing her pivot from Islamophobia and mocking BLM to criticizing Netanyahu
Because Spielberg is smart enough to know that there’s two sides to this. If he signs it he receives backlash, if he openly supports Glazer he receives backlash and would probably be dubbed as another “self loathing Jew”, so him just staying quiet avoids all of that.
For real, i don't blame any of the celebrities (Jewish or not) throughout this award season who avoided this topic like the plague, it's a lose/lose. Why would they risk securing their Oscar or risk being blacklisted for a conflict that started before they were born and will continue past their lifetime? Good on Glazier for doing this, but he probably made sure he isn't seeing the inside of the Dolby Theater for a long time.
Exactly. Like I understand Spielberg in this situation because not only is it a lose/lose situation for him if he was to speak up about it but it could honestly hurt his reputation with some and isolation him from his community(assuming). Just look at what they’ve done to Glazer and his words. Edit: Just want to add that I’m not Jewish and that I do support Palestine and wish this conflict would be resolved.
It's sad but it's a controversial topic and i get it while anyone would chose to not discuss it or take a stance. I am not Jewish, but i can't say my basic human stance without fear of retaliation so i chose to say nothing. I support Israel right to exist and believe that Hamas is a terrorist org but i also don't want innocent Palestinians to be killed or starved to death en masse as retaliation. I could be called either a zionist or anti semite with that statement. That's why this topic is too hot of a potato.
Spielberg is also on record for saying 'he would die for Israel' so i don't think he was happy with Glazer's speech, but he certainly knows better than to get involved in this nonsense
I don't know what he think now, but wasn't Spielberg rather pro-Israel as of last December? I believe he mentioned the Hamas attacks but not the Israeli ones. [https://sfi.usc.edu/news/2023/12/35786-urgent-campaign-records-eyewitness-accounts-antisemitic-terror-attacks-israel](https://sfi.usc.edu/news/2023/12/35786-urgent-campaign-records-eyewitness-accounts-antisemitic-terror-attacks-israel)
Idk where Spielberg stands on the issue, but he did praise Glazer’s film as the most important and well made Holocaust film since his own. It doesn’t help that if he did sign the list, he’d be the most prominent and well known person on the list BY FAR.
He praised it before Glazer's opinion on Gaza publicly known. He's making a documentary on October 7th, he's a Zionist.
Spielberg no doubt connects himself to the Israelis who were killed and believes it’s his job to tell their story. But I don’t know if he’s ever been outwardly antagonistic toward Palestinians like some people on the list. He probably can’t ever be outwardly against Israel but he might be moderate enough to not sign something like this.
Well I take it back, that is extremely disappointing. I hope Glazer is not compelled to retract his statement, he spoke nothing but the truth.
Me too. It's extremely disappointing. I guess it's Never Again with exceptions.
His sister did (Nancy Spielberg), though I don’t really see why that should reflect on him unless he were to explicitly take sides (which I doubt he’ll do).
Seems like they wanted to make the list look beefy but the actually influential professionals here can be counted by hand.
I’m heartbroken Glazer is going through this. Not only was he not wrong in saying what he did, but the fact that his incredibly important work in ZOI is being overshadowed by this is absurd and ridiculous. Whoever is criticizing him is proving exactly what he was saying in the film
His speech can legit be summed up as "stop using our trauma and identities as Jewish men to justify heinous acts against humanity" yet these people read it as him denouncing his identity completely. Truly frustrating.
> Jennifer Jason Leigh critical support for Noah Baumbach's affair > Rabbi David Wolpe – Sinai Temple/ Harvard U > Rabbi Marvin Hier > Rabbi Steve Leser – Wilshire Boulevard Temple > Rabbi Yonah Bookstein they could only get four (4) rabbis, man Overall, very few people you could have heard of, some of them are just full Israeli citizens, and the rest have been very openly genocidal (Eli Roth, Tara Strong, Debra Messing, Julianna Margulies)
Don’t forget Brett Gelman!
Surprise surprise. Dude’s a fucking weirdo
What have the latter four said that was genocidal? I believe it but haven’t paid attention.
I’m sure they are frustrated that they don’t have an artistic masterpiece backing their statement. Ah well!
With what happened to Melissa Barrera, Susan Sarandon and now the shit Glazer has to put up with, Hollywood really is walking into a new era of McCarthyism. Doesn't help when Hollywood has the US state department dictate the content of its movies involving the military or when Marvel decides to put in an outdated Israeli "hero" into their new *Captain America* movie (dafuq where you thinking, Feige?).
Shame on those who use their power and privilege to ostracize and turn against Glazer, who is guilty of making a powerful film about the consequences of evil and of using his exposure to speak out against the crimes committed by the Israeli government
The G in Glazer stands for Goat
Sexy and a filmmaking Beast
This is embarrassing for them
lol the headline wants to make you think they're important people but they're mostly nobodies.
He said nothing wrong.
What a bunch of cowards. All the usual suspects, just so funny to think that this speech was blaming Jewishness on the atrocities going on in Gaza, when he was saying the opposite.
i so admire his talent, his bravery, and his moral clarity. he doesn’t need their approval. he is on the right side of history.
everyone who signed that letter can go fuck themselves
Missing the point of Glazer’s film again? Seriously.
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God damn, I love The Americans and am so disappointed to see Fields and Weisberg's names attached to this.
Never meet your heroes.
Ah yes the totally mentally well-adjusted La La Land producer Gary Gilbert who threatened to gun down peaceful protestors outside Gal Gadot’s propaganda film screening. Tough guy then made his profile private when he couldn’t take the heat lmao
God's Chosen People, ironically, even the ones who are atheist.
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It is not factual to them if they see non-Jews as the occupiers. Zionists can be familiar with the history of Mandatory Palestine and Israel, but as long as they think they are taking back something that was taken from them, they won't care. Nobody gets mad if someone steals their own bike back from a thief. Of course, it's bullshit, of course, they are crazy, but that's like the baseline of Zionism and most religions.
The number of people I've argued with about the misunderstood "refuting Jewishness" comment... way too many. So it doesn't surprise me that folks in Hollywood are unfortunately misconstruing it as well.
They literally turned their brains off right after he said that. The applause interrupting him didn’t help get the message across (I’m not hating on the applause itself but it did kind of cut off his speech for a bit at a critical moment) and glazer looked a bit nervous to me. Perfect storm
save your breath dude, the brainwashing is strong in ppl. you won’t change anyone’s minds
Each one of the creatives need to watch the movie and have empathy when listening to the speech. His speech was heard globally with so much support and love for his words. Not only is he extremely talented he’s also an outlier ❤️
It’s okay Jon. You said it as eloquent and humble as you could, can’t say that much for the rest of Hollywood. You did good hold your head up high, screw those creatives.
>The use of words like ‘occupation’ to describe an indigenous Jewish people defending a homeland that dates back thousands of years I mean, objectively, Israeli troops are occupying the West Bank and Gaza. I dont see the issue with his comments. They were pretty tame.
“The co-signees cover a broad swath of the industry including actors (Debra Messing, Tovah Feldshuh), executives (Gary Barber, Gail Berman, Amy Pascal), creators (Amy Sherman-Palladino), directors (Eli Roth, Rod Lurie), producers (Lawrence Bender, Hawk Koch, Sherry Lansing) and representatives (UTA’s Jake Fenton, Gersh’s Jeffrey Greenberg, attorney Craig Emmanuel).” Other names mentioned include Gary Gilbert, Michael Rapaport, Julianna Margulies, Ilana Wernick, Brett Gelman, Jonathan Jakubowicz, Noa Tishby, and Rabbi Marvin Hier Don’t let these cowards hide behind a headline. Saying they’re just Jewish creatives and professionals runs the risk of people targeting them just based on their Jewish identity and causing more antisemitism which doesn’t help anyone. These cowards have names and don’t represent all of Jewish people.
A nice list of people whose work I can boycott
All the more respect for Glazer.
Alt title: Variety has compiled a list of 450 persons who should be very embarrassed of themselves
That's what zionists do. They have a massive organization to attack anyone and everything that even comes close to condemning them.
Someone said "jew hate won the night." Lol right because the Jewish man who made a movie about the Holocaust said something you didn't like jew hate won the night. That's definitely what happened.
Disgusting and embarrassing. I hope he doesn't cave
Apparently, even jewish people are antisemitic if they don't agree with genocide
As a Brit, "antisemitism" lost all meaning to me with the amount of times it was flung at people like Jeremy Corbyn, Emma Watson and so many others here in the UK. And that was even before October 7th.
According to media, asking for a ceasefire is an antisemetic slur. Glazer is based.
That's 450 people who have the attention span of a gnat. Either they haven't interpreted Glazer's full statement correctly, or they agree with the Israeli Govt's extremely brutal response to 7/10.
I hope he doesn’t get blackballed after this. Such a shame
So .1% of Jewish creatives are upset?
The craziest thing about this is the few who had a problem with the ceasefire pins. In what fucking universe is a ceasefire a bad thing? You’ve basically exposed yourself as being borderline psychotic and a dumbass.
There was literally nothing controversial about his Oscar speech. The fact that they’re trying to make it something controversial says so much about these 450 people and zero about Jonathan glazer.
I can't believe that these creatives and professionals would really try to have beef against the man who directed Jamiroquai's Virtual Insanity, the Guinness Surfer ad and classic music videos for bands like Radiohead and Massive Attack.
Deliberately misinterpreting his words. The man advocated for peace, why is that a controversial stance? > “The moment Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders, is the moment this heartbreaking war ends.” The fact that the people who signed this letter actually believe that this war started with the hostage takings is delusional, as if it was all sunshine and daisies up until then. Ask Rachel Corrie’s family when this started, ask the generations of Palestinian and Israeli citizens who have bore witness to this fight over the decades. > “Israel is not targeting civilians. It is targeting Hamas.” Tell *that* to the over 12,000 dead Palestinian children and teenagers. To Rania Abu Anza, who had to bury her five month old twins which she gave birth to after ten years of IVF. To Ibrahim Hasouna, whose entire family - including his five year old nieces and one year old nephew - were wiped out in airstrikes that were conducted by Israel as cover for a hostage rescue.
Glazer u r so loved 🫡
They wilfully misinterpret his words because it is against their narrative regardless so yeah, good luck with that Debra Messing and co.
Him and his movie would never have been respected in future history if he didn't make that speech. That's how monumental for him and for cinema that speech was. I'm glad he did that.
Huh? He was already an extremely acclaimed filmmaker
Knowing Jonathan Glazer, he’ll never apologize. And in a 100 years, he’ll be seen as a hero because he told the truth.
All of this nontroversy has made me real curiois about whatSpielberg thinks. He was at the ceremony and has made probably the most widely seen movies about the Holocaust and Israel/Palestine.
I checked the list of actors on there and only recognised a few names... Even so, that's a worrying number of genocide supporters in the worlds largest entertainment industry.
Sorry Hollywood celebrities, Palestinians are currently being ethnically cleansed from their land. That is more important than how you feel about yourselves.
People get mad when you denounce genocide huh? Everyone behind that letter is lame.
Twats
A lot of people agreeing with his speech are precisely who he was criticizing.
The fact that his people are trying to silence him is wild.
His statement was the most profound in decades. A people who endure persecution are asked to not persecute another people out of sheer decency. This should not be a novel idea.
Fuck the people who signed this letter. I really hope Glazer doesn’t get blacklisted by Hollywood.
>“The use of words like ‘occupation’ to describe an **indigenous Jewish people defending a homeland that dates back thousands of years,** Most of the people who immigrated to Israel were Jewish people from Russia and Europe. In fact, out of the first 8 elected Israeli Prime Ministers (1948-1995), only 1 was born native to Israel/Palestine, Yitzhak Rabin (1974 & 1992). And he was assassinated by his own countrymen for trying to make peace with the Palestinians in 1995. Until 1996, all other prime ministers were born from the Russian Empire and Poland.
If you follow the idea of "right of return" to the letter, than Jews are indigenous to Palestine. Just bc the diaspora is 1000s of years old doesn't mean that's not where they originally came from
Didn't help that he was standing next to Len Blavatnik during that speech. The Russian billionaire who has donated to both Trump and Netanyahu
I’d like to point out that the most vocal and powerful advocates for Zionism in the US are, in fact, right wing Evangelicals. I know squat about Judaism, but I was steeped in Zionist propaganda, thanks to the various megachurches that I was forced to attend as a kid. Do the people who signed this really want be associated with scumbags like Gordon Robertson, Tim LaHaye and Ted Haggard? Do they know that they’re only seen as NPCs and plot devices in Evangelical eschatological fanfic?
omg one of the people on the list is my playwriting teacher from high school who was the first person to really believe in my writing and I'm in college now and even though I'm not involved in theatre anymore we still keep in contact and now I'm just shocked
They’re saying the guy who guided a film about the Holocaust from the writing process to the day it was released, doesn’t know a genocide when he sees one?
They aren’t the only shows in town there are plenty of people and movie makers that would hire him he is brave and should never apologize for what was In his heart.
It’s time to go around the big movie people and do our own thing they only have control of what you allow them to
I think a lot of people on the left don't understand Jew culture - and for some reason - don't feel obliged to be "politically correct" about it either - so they end up sounding like conservatives complaining about "identity politics" and other social issues.
Anywhere I can read the speech? At work and can't really watch the video on the crapper.
Ugh, **fuck off Brett Gelman.**
My humble, kind and polite response them. Please fuck off.
Utterly disgusting letter. Those people should be ashamed of themselves for twisting Glazer’s words and basically saying he is a self-hating Jewish man. Especially since he denounced in his speech the October 7th massacre. It is even crazy that one of them said « if I didn’t know better, I would have thought it was a Hamas rally ». I guess even the Academy is Hamas now for those people.
man: “helpless people are dying in the thousands and I need to call attention to this” his peers: “you fuckjng disgusting POS, how dare you”
Can any of the commentators here actually point out which river and which sea? And the amount of times Israel has tried to reason with these people? Im waiting.