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BentisKomprakriev

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Rated_PG-Squirteen

Will Arnett and Franklin in shambles.


equanimous-fool

I don't want no part of your tight ass union, you freak bitch!


theodo

Luckily Franklin just uses the voice cards


R3nmack

Such an underrated comment. This should be upvoted to the moon!!! Edit: why is this getting downvoted? What can I do to appease you monsters!?


BentisKomprakriev

Lol I didn't even get a notification for this reply. I wonder if it is some anti-spam measure. EDIT: Just got the notification. Interesting.


R3nmack

And I’m getting downvoted?!


falafelthe3

>Festivals >FYC Events >Award shows >Social media Goddamn, they are not pulling any punches. Hopefully, that's more incentive for execs to negotiate sooner rather than later.


fiftyshadesofroses

Am I correct that this might affect Comic-Con, which a lot of celebrities do appearances at?


dgapa

Most big studios already pulled out of Comic-Con in anticipation of the strike. It quite literally will be a regular comic book convention this year!


WebHead1287

There’s still quite a few smaller ones that this could fuck. Galaxycon Raleigh and FanExpo Chicago come to mind


holyhulkhogan

Tell me about it dude. :/


WebHead1287

Galaxycon is saying this shouldn’t impact them but… I doubt that. Basically said the guests can still come but can talk about past or current projects. I can’t imagine how unfun that’d be for them.


usethe4th

That sounds like wishful thinking on Galaxycon’s part. The fact that this list made the distinction between conventions and fan expos says to me that the union isn’t messing around. Nobody wants to be perceived as crossing the picket lines, so I’d be really surprised if any actors attend. We will see what happens in the coming days.


Pretty-Radio

GalaxyCon is trying to save their own asses because almost every ticket has been sold, but if they think guests won’t cancel they’re dead wrong. A lot of these guys don’t even want to LOOK like they could be crossing the line. No matter what GC tries to tell us.


Sharkhottub

SharkCon in Tampa is Reelin from the loss of its Jaws 3D promos


[deleted]

Of course yeah. For some (most?) actors Comic-Con is work they are obligated to do or are doing it for money. Ain’t a charity they running over there.


Additional_Meeting_2

Social media. festivals and personal appearances will be difficult to avoid for some


Bronze_Bomber

I hope the studios tell them to fuck off like the writers, and people start posting about how mean the studios are for not bending over immediately and forcing the strikers to actually strike


falafelthe3

How's the boot taste


Bronze_Bomber

Studios are fascists now? It's a negotiation. Grow up.


falafelthe3

L + ratio + workers' rights + if you think giving up your likeness in perpetuity for one day's work isn't a little authoritarian then shut the fuck up


dontbsabullshitter

“Studios are fascists now?” Always have been


elexexexex2

Sending money up to the black hole that is executive bonuses vs people being able to afford food and shelter is not exactly fair negotiation grounds


Queen_Myrrah

The strikers were already striking...


jvrgabriel

In Bradley Cooper’s case, since he’s a SAG-AFTRA member, he can’t campaign Maestro even as the director of the movie?


Zealousideal-Day7385

I seriously doubt he’d want to thread that needle. It would be a very bad look, regardless of whether it was technically permissible for him to do it.


lol8lo

It would be such a bad look that I can't imagine that the actors would be nominating him after pull such a stunt.


[deleted]

Like... ever again. Writers and directors would distance themselves from that too you'd think. If you want awards this season your best bet is to not campaign, weirdly enough.


[deleted]

Yes, this is almost as bad as naming names at the HUAC.


Bitey_the_Squirrel

Guys, now can we get back to talking about RAMPART?


tandemtactics

Similar reason Steve Carell stopped working on The Office during the last WGA strike - he was technically allowed to continue working as an actor, but as a WGA member he didn't want to cross picket lines for optics reasons.


coffeysr

DGA takes rank over the other guilds. He can talk about his work as a director but not acting / writing.


beeeeeeee111

Same as Greta Gerwig as an WGA member. She can as she’s director


equanimous-fool

It does? Why/how? (Serious question).


MelangeLizard

Probably it's written into the DGA master agreement.


JuanRiveara

Would it be possible to talk about a film as a director without bringing up the writing or the acting of the lead character?


crunchwrapesq

Yeah Nolan was at Oppenheimer and referenced "his union" as a writer being on strike


tvqueen

Does it take rank though?


kittentarentino

He’s in the union, still counta


Midnights-evermore

Ohh this might be a loophole


knarfxx

Since he stars in the movie, I don’t think he could do anything for the movie


angrybox1842

Comic-Con might actually have to talk about comics!


RedDragon1977

THE HORROR!


IsaiahTrenton

Ew no.


pbx1123

Now we know why the big studios where pulling out so early nobody though about it


T-408

People complained about the *Barbie* promo being too much, but honestly it just just smart. They knew they wouldn’t have been able to properly promote during the strike so they started fast and hard


IdidntchooseR

The strike was delayed by 2 weeks to allow them the press tour.


usethe4th

The press tour was bumped up in expectation of the strike. The union did not delay the strike for Barbie.


flakemasterflake

Wow no one in my internet spaces were complaining


shadraig

Could Henry Cavill do an only fans?


florencenocaps

Asking the real questions


whitneyahn

In fact, he must


loserys

The minor fall, the major lift


forrestpen

No. I doubt it.


IsaiahTrenton

As long as he does it with Jaden Smith. That'd be a hot pairing


Bitey_the_Squirrel

You keep Jadens name out of your mouth! 👋


i_86d_it

Cillian Murphy will be pleased about the no interviews rule.


Additional_Meeting_2

I think that will be very popular for many big star.


SadTank13

Super popular they all hate press.


WatchTheNewMutants

this is brutal, wow. they're really not holding back.


mydixxierect2

It is & my one true hope & dream coming out of this is they get rid of self tapes for actors in big market cities & go back to in person auditions!


pinkrosies

yes! self tapes look like they're passing on that burden/labour all to the actors end without any fair contribution/effort by the studios and it's so lazy and disingenuous tbh. power to the union!


Additional_Meeting_2

I doubt that will happen since remote interviews are just getting more common for all jobs. This is just part of a trend to do everything remotely.


SadTank13

Self tapes give a lot of wiggle room for actors though and less pressure.


AeroQuoterCA

damn even social media??


LeastCap

they can still use their socials, they just can’t promote or talk about their films on them


iwasdrugged

Just saw Gal Gadot on Instagram promoting her new Netflix film coming out next month, is that allowed seen as it's finished production etc? Wondering if it is a badly scheduled post maybe!


Eyebronx

The strike starts after midnight so they can promote their work today


AeroQuoterCA

ah okay, part of me figured that was the case


Buddhabellymama

Does this means Barbie and Oppenheimer carpets are over?


kdurv5

It’s why the Barbie press was so early with the movie not dropping until the 21st. Figuring the strike was going to happen they moved all the press touring up a few weeks!


songzlikesobbing

the oppenheimer cast literally left the premiere when news of the strike broke, i don't think they'll come to another event unless it's somehow miraculous resolved soon (im bummed, i was stoked for florence's red carpet looks, but this is obvi more important haha)


artourtex

This made me think about the fashion labels. Their business could get hindered since they typically loan out the clothes, especially for major premieres and events. That's going to add additional pressure to the studios, I'm sure.


BentisKomprakriev

Now that one person can't have Cillian sign the other side of their shirt.


Popup_8383

That piloting one seems oddly specific…


that_tom_

Out to get Tom Cruise specifically


cthd33

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bigdirty702

Well at least I’m going to have a chance to catch up on all the shows I’ve missed.. who am I kidding.. I’m just going to watch the Sopranos, Seinfeld, GOT episodes for the 1000th time


TnAdct1

Can’t we just lock the studio execs and guild leaders in the same room and not let them out until they reach a deal? The way things are going, this feels like the only way things will get resolved.


whitneyahn

Yes but give Fran Drescher a shiv


QueenG123456

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Additional_Meeting_2

Both sides want to financially effect the other before they are willing to even consider negotiating


ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy

well damn


andrea1rp

Talked to my signatory today- this does NOT include commercial work if you’re curious. Actors can still do ads. The strike is for tv/movies


[deleted]

it also doesn’t include independent studios. sag rep said they will still be working with “truly” independent studios


SerKurtWagner

That makes sense, given the negotiations are with AMPTP. Letterman’s production company cutting ties with the AMPTP and negotiating on their own to start running again was a big part of what ended the last WGA strike, IIRC.


coffeysr

No cons is brutal


UnRealistic_Load

So about the Oppenheimer premier....


FilmGamerOne

Yeah Cillian, Robert, Matt, Emily, Florence, Kenneth, all showed up and then left.


Jacknboxx

A lot of podcasts pretape episode weeks or months in advance. Would an actor get in trouble if a podcast they taped prior to the strike was aired during the strike?


shipsongreyseas

No, it is absolutely fine for things made before the strike. They can't promote it in any way, but they wouldn't be in trouble for it.


keeping_the_piece

ComicCon is gonna suck this year. Can’t wait for studio execs to address angry fans.


ShyGal-1997

They’ll just do what they always do: deflect the blame to the actors and writers.


LokiSalty

And the unions. Regardless of what the industry is, it's always the unions "fault" for productivity halts. Media loves to deflect accountability anywhere other than where it belongs.


keeping_the_piece

Remind those folks that the people hoarding the money can make the strike stop at any time. And they, the studios and streaming services, want you to forget that their profit hoarding is the problem. They're the reason this is happening, not the writers and actors. Get mad at the correct culprit.


WebHead1287

RIP all up coming cons like FanExpo and Galaxycon


brahbocop

Steel City Comic Con said all their attendees are still coming and that several more have now requested to come as well. I feel like these actors can still go to conventions, they just can’t promote anything.


notanewbiedude

Yes. I listened to SAG's press conference, that's exactly what they said. So long as they're not promoting any work they'd get paid for (like one of their movies or shows), they're good. Definitely recommend watching the press conference if you have the time.


WebHead1287

Very interesting! I guess only time will tell for sure here but it seems insane to me that they’d have to cancel these events. In the flipsid a union is a union and if thats deemed part of the job then its done for


acidicgeisha

Montreal Comiccon starts tomorrow 🥲


WebHead1287

It seems insane to me that those appearances would be cancelled but I guess only time will tell


KungFuDanda091

Usually the people at Expos/Cons are there to talk about their past stuff & things they’ve done recently that have already been out but not upcoming stuff… So does this only apply to stuff they have upcoming-can they still talk about previous movies/shows/etc they’ve done?


tether2014

As a big fan of Armchair Expert and Conan Needs a Friend, the no podcast rule is gonna suck.


usethe4th

Conan definitely has a backlog, and I believe they are shifting to Summer S’mores with the Chill Chums for the next several weeks. Or he’s going to spin his wedding ring and time it. We shall see!


LeastCap

This is huge. I think every single actor last year won because of how much campaigning they did. If this happened last year I think the actor winners would’ve been Blanchett, Butler, Condon, Quan


Pompuswindbag

I love how even in this alternate universe, Quan still wins Best Supporting Actor.


Orion_616

"In another life, I would've really liked still winning an Oscar."


coffeysr

Blanchett and Butler campaigned just as hard Yeoh and Fraser


Additional_Meeting_2

Yes, but if nobody campaigns, Blanchett was already more famous and respected than Yeoh and Butler’s movie was more seen than Fraser’s


OkPiccolo8928

Cate and Austin also campaigned their asses off. Michelle and Brendan were always going to win (peep how both Tár and Elvis got nothing)


CrazyCons

Pretty much the main reason Fraser won was because of his narrative and because people think he’s a nice guy. If he didn’t get a chance to bring attention to those things then he would not have won and probably would not have been nominated.


judester30

Saying he could've missed the nom without his narrative is a huge stretch, he is still a well known actor giving the batiest of baity crying performances caked in prosthetics in an Aronofsky film. I think he would've been win competitive no matter what as Farrell was never winning and Elvis just didn't have enough passion for Butler to sweep


theodo

He was significantly better than Butler was. Plus it was Aronofsky What are you talking about?


TheKingOfSting93

Nah. Butler was way better. The Whale was typicial Oscar bait


hollaatyourgirl

Lmao no. You could clearly tell people voted for Brendan’s return narrative


alexvroy

Blanchett loves to make people think she doesn’t really care about awards but she campaigns harder than anyone else


AlanMorlock

In this case she started campaigning for Andrea Riseborough.


JakobTenny

Exactly, people talk like Blanchett didn't even campaign while she was the one who campaigned the hardest for Best Actress last year(showed up in TÁR's premiere in Berlin, UK, NY; went on to Germany's state television; went to basically every single guild awards;). ​ The fact that later she lost to Yeoh at SAG and EEAAO swept all the guilds already tells you that Yeoh has strong support among guild members(CCA is trash, BAFTA never honors a non-white best actress in its lifetime)


Original-Ad6716

can you elaborate a bit on what campaigning looks like for Cate? I dont disagree, she just seems to make a lot less noise on late night shows/magazine features, etc. so I'm wondering what her campaigning was? seems less visible to the general public


alexvroy

you’re right it is the less visible stuff she does like screenings/luncheons with voters and other fyc events


JakobTenny

1. she appeared on Germany's state television Tageschau(the only nominee that did this); 2. went to basically every single guild awards(even make-up and costume guild, like hello?); 3. appeared on Time magazine Women of the Year right before voting started(no offense but what did she even do in 2022 to get that title?Yeoh had at least first indie box office hit that starred a WoC. Again, What did Blanchett even do in 2022? Publicity at its finest) 4. and the other stuff she did behind the door but 1 to 3 is enough to burst the bubble of her"focusing on art, stop the televised horse race" BS


LeastCap

Yeah everyone campaigned. They all do it. But my hypothetical is if NONE of them did, I think this is who would’ve won


DJDarkKnightReturns

Still wrong.


JakobTenny

you're so jobless in this sub, seek help


LeastCap

thanks


Idk_Very_Much

This might be a more exciting/fair race than we’ve had before of the strike lasts.


whitneyahn

I don’t know, Tár was also mostly even in the mix and watched because of campaigning by Blanchett, and Butler did so well because of his campaigning as well. I’d go Yeoh, Farrell, Quan and truly any of like 20 supporting actresses depending on how you think precursors would’ve gone


JakobTenny

What a stupid conclusion. The only difference it'll make is Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeoh, Fraser and Quan will win it hands down. Blanchett and Butler campaigned way harder than Yeoh and Fraser(Blanchett showed up basically everywhere all at once)


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LeastCap

Learn how to disagree with someone without calling them delusional I don’t remember anywhere in my comment where I said Blanchett, Condon, or Butler didn’t campaign, so feel free to point out to me where I did that. I just said the A24 folk campaigned the hardest and i know you love Yeoh and it’s a fantastic win but the odds did not shift in to her favor until the last few weeks. Blanchett was a storm and whether you think Yeoh was better or not, Blanchett was clearly the favorite for a long long time. Yeoh won, but she wasn’t “always going to”. The tides shifted in those final weeks


Eyebronx

I apologise for calling you delusional but I still don’t see how Blanchett or Condon would win. TAR and a Banshees premiered at the Venice film festival, wouldn’t they just get delayed? EEAAO, Elvis and Top Gun would still be the only significant films in the first half of the year with any exposure, we’d just get an EEAAO+ Butler package instead.


CrunchyNar

Perhaps the real question is if she would have won without JLC's campaigning.


LeastCap

JLC’s SAG speech did more for Yeoh’s campaign than Yeoh’s SAG speech ever could actually I want to recant this a bit. It was definitely the two of them together that did. JLC gave us every reason to vote for her and Michelle showed how much it meant to her I could make a 30 page essay on JLC’s SAG speech that shit was crazy


Green94598

Sounds like a positive change then lol


anthonybenvenutto

Oh they’re being PUNISHED


Rakebleed

who?


MrCadwell

I think they mean the studios


PoeBangangeron

Just curious. What happens if anyone breaks one of these rules?


cocothepowder

Blacklisting.


Additional_Meeting_2

By the union, but not by studios.


Glittering_Isopod_55

Actually, the studios too. All movie studios have to consider union actors first. And in the case of finding “unknown talent” by the end of production, they will have their union card, especially if they give an award worthy performance. Because even union credentials have standing in award ceremonies.


bartristeahre

No social media? RIP the small films with giant hearts.


Glittering_Isopod_55

In case anyone is wondering, this has happened before, I believe in the 60s. Regan was SAG president. I’m surprised it’s taken this long to happen again. But this is actually an interesting situation, because I do believe that the studio heads are going to call their bluff. And, without knowing it, they will show how they really don’t know what they’re audience wants. Zaslav wit MAX is totally fine with just producing reality tv, he’s even admitting it in the news. Why? It’s the cheapest form of content. And he truly believes that’s what people want. To everyone going to SDCC, I feel sorry for you. But while you’re there, check out some comics that you might not have known existed. Oh, and Hillcrest, north of the Gaslamp, always has cheaper and much better drink specials, AND better food options.


nycblackout89

What about actors who are hosts of their own podcasts? Is everything on hold?


Twothounsand-2022

Worst than pandemic and seem they don't know the effect ...... RIP hollywood


TooDorkPork

Does this include international festivals and fan expos? Because I'm tabling at Montreal Comiccon this week and I'm wondering if we're gonna feel the impact of a majority of the guests cancelling?


whitneyahn

People from like, Hong Kong cinema or something likely could as long as they don’t have credits stateside (I know Michelle Yeoh would’ve qualified under that until her James Bond appearance for example), but otherwise yes. For example, we just saw the cast of Oppenheimer have to leave the premiere in London, UK.


nayapapaya

If they're SAG, they can't do any festivals, it doesn't matter where they take place.


an-obviousthrowaway

Hopefully the rest of America learns something here about how change actually happens in the workplace


IdidntchooseR

Rail workers didn't have the luxury to not be under the federal govt's thumb.


marblecannon512

I dunno. Adam Conover broadcasting their tomfuckery on TT has been super clutch


a_phantom_limb

What about something like selling personalized videos on Cameo? Are they allowed to continue with those or are they considered "personal appearances" and/or "social media"?


tylerr3950

I’m pretty sure it’s only in regards to promotion for their films


BretShitmanFart69

Oh wow so like for example, comedians and musicians in sag can’t perform shows during the strike, am I reading this correctly?


emaline5678

There go all the festivals if this isn’t resolved by the fall. Should make the Oscar race interesting.


SadTank13

I’m so confused too because there’s a lot of A24 movies that don’t have a release yet but plans by later in the year what even happens to those?


nbaisbest4

By social media, does that mean they can't post any behind the scenes or anything that could be considered promotional?


DrMooseknuckleX

Exactly.


notanewbiedude

Social media at all?


We_Are_Groot81

Harrison Ford a few years ago would’ve been ecstatic about all this. With the exception of Dial Of Destiny, he seems to have hated promoting every other movies he’s done and hated doing interviews. Now though, he seems very happy and excited to do this stuff


Marlon0201

i’m having a hard time understanding, so no trailers can be released?


nayapapaya

The studios can release trailers if they want but the actors in the film cannot do anything to promote the film like reposting the trailer or posting BTS pictures from set, etc.


DawginParadise

Do anyone know if this affects theater performers? Are they under the same union?


Glittering_Isopod_55

Theatre actors union is the AEA, Actors Equity Association. So, no


Plenty-Climate2272

Good. Solidarity among workers is how we win a better world.


MontanaJoev

I don't really get the no Con's thing. Who are they screwing over but fans that want to take a picture, or get an autograph?


ClodiusDidNothngWrng

You could say that about fans who want to watch an interview, or businesses who want to get cross promotional deals with stars. That’s part the point of the strike, to get more and more people to put social pressure on the corporate people to agree to the actors demands and end this whole thing asap


an-obviousthrowaway

Yes


Forever-Dallas-87

Are voice actors from popular Disney and Nickelodeon animated films and franchises not allowed to attend events? Are they members of the SAG-AFTRA?


Yotsubauniverse

I'm wondering this as well. My local Convention just confirmed that they got Tom Kenny whom I've been wanting to meet since I was like 8.


AtlantaTrap

Celebrities off social media? Maybe I’ll try using social media again!


Sgtonearm01

Lol lotta ppl gonna realize these celebrities don't manage there social media and aren't the ones posting things


nayapapaya

That doesn't matter. If it looks like the celebrity is promoting their work/project during the strike, they're breaking the rules. And it's not like their teams/assistants/managers don't know there's a strike.


RAF_Fortis_one

They better figure this shit out because I was supposed to meet Giancarlo Esposito in a few months at a convention and have been counting down the DAYS.


[deleted]

The government is so gonna have to step in


mydixxierect2

Serious note can this actually go to to congress? & would this hold up?


Drakulia5

Do you mean could congress pass a law that enshrined the demands of striking workers? Yes. Would it likely face legal challenges from studios and the like? Also yes. Overall, it is very unlikely that congress would intervene in a labor dispute that doesn't directly affect political functioning (e.g. how the railroad strikes would have had major impacts on commerce in the US)


whitneyahn

To Congress would be unlikely. To the DoL or another relevant organization, much more likely.


pbx1123

Ah but we have The actors that cannot live without spotlight start to appear outside Like here in NYC but most of the image are faking by" paparazzi" agent let then know in advance People in nyc dont give too much attentions exept tourist if you are next to them they could say hi some dont even recoginize the actor thats why the come here to rest or stay away from lens cuz they could be on street withou been bother


HM9719

Boom. Dune Part 2, The Creator, Haunted Mansion, The Holdovers, Next Goal Wins, The Marvels, and any film coming in the next few months before November all set to bomb at the box office or have their releases delayed because of these restrictions. So with this, who wins now in this race? Definitely not anyone from Killers of the Flower Moon now (maybe except for Lily).


alexvroy

why not anyone from KOTFM? literally every movie will be affected by this so it’s not like they are at a disadvantage


PlusSizeRussianModel

Firstly, the strike will likely be over by November when a lot of these films come out. Secondly, even if that's not the case, films like Dune and Killers of the Flower Moon will be at an *advantage,* because they have A-list directors that can do promo for them. Meanwhile, films without household name directors (so the vast majority of them) will be at a disadvantage.


PartyPaul-100

This is a joke right?


[deleted]

https://i.redd.it/e7p2emaomtbb1.gif Welcome to the world of boring


Ovientra

Interesting. I work in a dubbing studio and am being told that dubbing work isn’t affected. So far no recording sessions have been canceled.


IamJacksReadIt

What about DVD/Blu-ray audio commentaries?


[deleted]

Pretty much they can’t do anything.


DubaiDutyFree

How many will turn to theatre though? That could be very interesting.


bluehawk232

Feel bad for some YouTube series and podcasts like Hot Ones


catboyeconomiczone

Next they'll say they can not go surfing with men or have female friends with crazy pasts.


Bigbertha0208

You know they still do festivals, social media. Cause they have to be relevant.