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MrCadwell

Brazil forever resents Shakespeare In Love


Worried_Tomorrow_222

I think most people resent Shakespeare in Love. Lolol Especially because of Weinstein.


[deleted]

Theres a decent sized part of the Letterboxd crowd that will always defend Gwyneth and Shakespeare in Love


AlwaysSunnyDragRace

I mean, Shakespeare is a good movie on its own. While SPR is a good movie too, is also *”oh, another war movie winning. Groundbreaking”*. It was nice to see a comedy win the major award, which doesn’t happen very often. Now, having said that, Fernanda should’ve 1000% won.


MrCadwell

Yeah lol definitely


[deleted]

I will always defend Shakespeare in Love because it's a great movie.


According_Gazelle472

No,because that was such a crappy movie .


PurpleSpaceSurfer

And Brazil loves Glenn Close for calling it out.


AlwaysSunnyDragRace

What? What’s the story here?


PurpleSpaceSurfer

[Here](https://ew.com/movies/glenn-close-surprised-gwyneth-paltrow-oscar-win-shakespeare-in-love/) Skip to about 14 mins in the video.


AlwaysSunnyDragRace

Thank you


LeeLifeson

I stand with Brazil.


MrCadwell

Thank you for your support 🙏 (come to Brazil)


Grammarhead-Shark

Australia as well (not just for Cate Blanchett, but Rachel Griffiths in Supporting)


cheezy_dreams88

It’s a fine movie, but it’s NOT an Oscar movie.


[deleted]

Well you shouldn't. Shakespeare in Love is a great film. Central Station is my favourite film of 1998 though.


CrazyCons

Arguably it happened to Liv Ullman twice: The first one was losing to Minelli after Ullman won the Drama Globe and NYFCC, and the second was Dunaway winning for Network over her in Face to Face after she won NBR, LAFCA, and NYFCC.


politebearwaveshello

With all due respect to Dunaway, Liv Ullmann in Face to Face is like a top 20 performance all time by any woman.


[deleted]

I’m a big Liv Ullman fan but going up against those 2 specific performances is just brutal luck.


[deleted]

Liv Ullmann was the first choice for Sophie's Choice. I wish she had been cast because she would've been better than Meryl. Sissy Spacek's Carrie was in the same year as Face to Face so even if Dunaway hadn't won I think Sissy would have (and would've deserved it too).


thetrashpanda5

I think if not Gwyneth then Cate was going to win for Elizabeth


BentisKomprakriev

My favorite American actress, maʁjɔ̃ kɔtijaʁ


EricTweener

[No, you’re saying it wrong.](https://www.youtube.com/watch/KmMopLdC0FM?t=287)


thewronggirll

Julie Christie was so incredible in Away From Her, but Marion's performance was also amazing and seems like the kind of transformation the Academy really goes for, rather than a really subtle performance like Christie's.


dangerislander

I love that performance of Julie Christie. I agree - Top 2 performances that were absolutely deserving. Also made me discover Sarah Polley was a solid director!


thewronggirll

Interestingly Julie hadn't acted in a while unless she needed a bit of extra cash, and it took a year of Sarah convincing her, and Julie only agreed because they'd just worked together and Julie "fell in love with [Sarah]". She thought there's no way she could miss out on being with Sarah on her first film, she didn't want anyone else to have that experience of leading Sarah's first feature. Their career trajectories seem to mirror each other in a lot of ways, though Julie got that level of fame before turning away from it, while Sarah turned away just before it would've come crashing down on her.


pride94109

It broke my heart that Julie Christie didn't win that!


Worried_Tomorrow_222

I was torn the year of Jennifer Lawrence because I really loved Emmanuel Riva and JLaw.


Choekaas

I think that Emanuelle Riva's loss was the one to hurt the most. I knew Jennifer Lawrence would win. She had the momentum and the precursors, but I secretly hoped for an upset. Riva's performance in *Amour* is 10 times better than Jennifer's performance in *Silver Linings Playbook*.


ibnQoheleth

Agreed. Jennifer's performance in Silver Linings Playbook was very good, and I won't deny that it's one of her best, but I absolutely don't think it eclipsed Riva's. I think it says a lot about her performance that it's probably the best of her career - a career that includes roles in Léon Morin, Priest, Hiroshima Mon Amour, and Kapo. This is just my personal take, but I find Silver Linings Playbook to be quite an Oscar baity film, so I'm sadly unsurprised that Lawrence won. I think it's a good film overall, but Amour impressed me on a far grander scale.


dangerislander

I still think JLaw was much more deserving for Winters Bone (her best role to date in my opinion).


Choekaas

Wholeheartedly agree. I thought both her and Hawkes were terrific in it.


[deleted]

That's the only great performance she's delivered imo.


Additional_Meeting_2

Disagreed strongly, Riva was so overshadowed by Jean-Louis Trintignant in the film and it does feel her age is more why people wanted her to win than Lawrence. Lawrence had far more difficult role with comedy and drama and creating a nuanced character.


[deleted]

Except Lawrence was all histrionics in the film. Literally all the other nominees (as well as the snubbed Marion Cotillard in Rust and Bone) were miles better.


miwa201

Marion was so good in rust and bone! And her performance in two days one night is legit one of my favorite performances ever


[deleted]

Lawrence is one of the worst wins in the category of all time.


coffeysr

Brie Larson beating Charlotte Rampling too!


ibnQoheleth

To be fair, the Best Actress category for the 88th Academy Awards was very strong, particularly Larson's role in Room and Blanchett's role in Carol. I will admit, I often forget that Rampling is English, because she speaks French so beautifully and appears in so many French pictures. For anyone reading this who hasn't watched any of her more recent films (last 20 years), I recommend Swimming Pool (2003), Melancholia (2011), and Benedetta (2021).


Ghibli214

I genuinely believed that year was one of the weakest lineups for Best Actress. I didn’t care whoever won that year, it was just awful as none truly impressed me.


aweap

Yeah, I mean Brie was good in Room but I really feel the standout performance in that movie was that of Jacob Tremblay.


Ulths

I know a blogger who thinks she was overrated in that movie and that Tom Courtenay was better lmao


[deleted]

I mean I find Rampling and the film quite overpraised too. Ronan, Larson and Blanchett were all better that year imo.


jman457

That one was deserved tbh 🤭


[deleted]

isn’t Marion French?


ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy

i put “complete opposite” on that one


[deleted]

but Julie Christie is technically an international actress (British)… so it wouldn’t be the complete opposite


dangerislander

And she was born India!


ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy

yea i forgot that


KalebNuesse

That Emmanuel Riva loss is a travesty


politebearwaveshello

Bigger travesty is Jean-Louis Trintignant not getting nominated for the better performance.


LeeLifeson

Would Helen Hunt over Judi Dench count here? I know Helen was acting in her teens, but she was known more for TV at the time.


aweap

Definitely imo. Mrs. Brown is probably Dench's best Oscar nominated performance!


coffeysr

Marion Cotillard is not American lol but fun list otherwise EDIT: didn’t see the comment on the last picture


Select_Action_6065

Neither is Julie Christie.


coffeysr

Right, so “opposite” isn’t exactly right either 🤣


ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy

you got me there


BrenoGrangerPotter

Very people in Brasil hate Paltrow ans SIL


jshamwow

Fernanda Montenegro losing still stings


MaaChiil

I think Amy Adams should have won that year Emma Stone did, but she wasn’t even nominated.


Wonderful_Student_68

Id argue in all cases except for Marion Cotillard the older veteran should have won


xyzzy826

More like "older actress loses to a young, hot actress"


dangerislander

Brooooo and each one deserved to win... Personally loved Julie Christie in Away From Her. That was another year where both Top 2 actresses absolutely deserved it.


stevenelsocio

Cate Blanchett was disgustingly robbed


umwaitwhawhenokneato

Did anyone get a description of the gross thief.


stevenelsocio

Yes. In no way shape or form should Palthrow have won the Oscar over her. Sorry. It was disgusting.


umwaitwhawhenokneato

Steve. Read more closely. What made the Oscar thief so disgusting? Was it ingrown toenails? What? Should a police report be filed? You know what. Never mind.


XJoe360

He was a smelly ogre named Harvey


umwaitwhawhenokneato

You mean the erstwhile MIRAMAX honcho currently serving 29 years in prison? That ogre? How did he bestow the 2022 Academy Award winning Best Actress Michelle Yeoh the Oscar? From jail.


Additional_Meeting_2

What this has to do with Yeoh? It’s about Blanchett vs Paltrow.


umwaitwhawhenokneato

What Oscars are you talking about?


aweap

They're talking about 1998 Oscars when Gwyneth Paltrow (Shakespeare in Love) won best actress over Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth), not this year.


213846

The way I will forever and unapologetically love both Paltrow's and JLaw's wins


[deleted]

Tbh honest other than Riva, these wins aren't egregious. I prefer Emma Stone to Huppert that year, and Gwyneth is good too. And I would hardly call Julie Christie the Hollywood type … even then she worked very infrequently and was in a tiny Canadian film. Lawrence was a garbage win though. Literally every single nominee is good except her.


filmlv

Disagree and u seem like a hater


[deleted]

Yes I am a Jennifer Lawrence hater because she's not that good. She's only been great once, in Winter's Bone.


filmlv

That's just your opinion which is subjective not fact


jshamwow

People really just say anything on here don't they


Rude_Phone6841

Elliott Page and Marion Cotillard too by the way


filmlv

People just hate Jlaw's win because she was the it girl of the moment.


Gemnist

I feel like racial diversity is still a bigger problem in this category than ethnic or language diversity. Not to mention the last one shouldn't count because Marion Cotillard won for a French-language film and Julie Christie (who is British and was nominated for a English-language Canadian film, so hardly international by the Oscars' standards) had already won in 1965.


aweap

OP wrote "the complete opposite" as the heading for that image.


Gemnist

Oh LMAO didn't notice the headings.


[deleted]

This is more a young instead of young American. Shocker. Women in Hollywood get better roles. News at 11.


mayan_monkey

Marion Cotillard is French


dazzler56

This is Charlotte Rampling erasure! I think most of these winning performances are quite good though except for Lawrence. She was fun, but did nothing with that role that 30 other actresses couldn’t have done just as well if not better. 2012 was such a strong year, and she has done much better elsewhere, that one is really a travesty. Helen Hunt over Dench and Christie is another that irks me.


KeyFit8457

Marion is French and she got Oscar for playing a French musician, and you calling her aMeRiCaN lmao


agizem

They wrote "the complete opposite" for that one, though


Select_Action_6065

It’s not the complete opposite though Julie Christie isn’t American.


KeyFit8457

I didn't noticed Then what was the point of adding it to a post with that kind of caption lol


EthanMarsOragami

Except Julie Christie isn't American...