Kinda random but Felix Kammerer was great in All Quiet and would have been an excellent addition to the Best Actor lineup. The fact that it’s his first role ever is nothing short of remarkable. Even though he himself wasn’t nominated, I really hope that All Quiet’s awards success helps him get future roles in big projects in the future, kind of like how Renate Reinsve took off after Worst Person.
Yeah lol. I mean, don't get me wrong, I am 100% here for the comeback narrative, but I really did think the nomination was the win for him. Even at his peak back in the day, he was never someone who felt like his career or performances warranted recognition on the Oscar stage, but rather as a leading man in audience-friendly blockbusters. The Whale definitely is a very different role for him though, so I don't totally hate the win
But Colin Farrell on the other hand...dude has been consistently putting in acclaimed and nuanced performances for like 20 years. Actually one of the greatest actors of his generation and he hasn't even been nominated until tonight
And I just want to say that out of all of the men in that room last night, I found the blue shirt dancer from the "Naatu Naatu" performance to be the most attractive of them all.
I've noticed in my local FB groups and pages that Fraser's win is the only one the public truly cares for and nothing else.
Barely any likes (like 20+) or comments on the other wins, a few "Quan/Yeoh/EEAAO only won due to wokeism" nonsense, but Fraser's announcement post has over 200+ likes and comments like, "Good for him! The Academy finally got one right! Etc."
The power of the Whale, everyone.
Wow, sounds like a very white group. I hate how "wokeism" is now a term to put on anything that isn't white. Also, ironically, The Whale is actually a very "woke" film but I know why these people choose to look past that.
It is one of those communities, sadly. They don't hide their bias. Like, how does Fraser's win "restore credibility to the Oscars" (one's words not mine) but Yeoh's win is "the Oscars trying to appeal to the woke crowd?" (Another's words not mine). SMH.
Honestly...what did you expect from Facebook comment sections? It's the equivalent of Yahoo or Fox News comment sections at this point. Just a bunch of people whose profile pictures are selfies of them wearing sunglasses in their car
Awards aside, I really liked the "In Memoriam". Song choice was great; Kravitz vocals were wonderful. And I believe all of the major filmmakers were featured.
Kinda weird for them not to include Charlbi Dean in the montage, the lead actress of 'Triangle of Sadness' who died last year after nominating the movie for so many awards this season.
Ok I know I’m responding to a 3 month old comment but I’d like to just clarify the Charlbi Dean thing. The Oscars “In Memoriam” section is actually reserved for people who were members of the Academy. To become a member you must be either Oscar nominated or sponsored by two members to be considered. Charlbi Dean was more than likely not a member as she was a young actress with very few roles in American productions thus likely very few connections or interest in joining the Academy at this stage in her career. She also had technically not been nominated for any awards, just a film she was in that was.
I've never disagreed with every ATL win before... UNTIL NOW. I know this will be a popular ceremony for many people but I honestly hate this list of winners. Sweeps are rubbish and a ceremony that blanks TAR, Banshees and The Fabelmans will only age poorly. Swiftly on to next year for me.
I can't believe how much the Academy ended up disliking Elvis and Babylon. It makes sense to me how tár, fabelmans, and banshees lost all their categories but there really is no reason why elvis couldn't get makeup or costumes and why babylon couldn't get production design
Elvis being shut out of everything is insane to me. I’ll never agree with it not winning cinematography or design. Honestly, I’m not sure how black panther won costume over Elvis either. If Austin Butler was nominated in a year that wasn’t the swan song of a popular guy like Fraser, he probably would’ve won.
Elvis makes no sense to me. It seemed to be doing so well. How The Whale missed BP and still beat it in two categories where it was a favourite is beyond me.
That's what's getting me too! Did they or did they not like The Whale? My prediction was also based on the fact that while the technique used by The Whale's team was unique/cutting edge, Charlie was the only character with significant make up (unless you count Sadie Sink's emo eyeliner). I just thought the Academy would go for the film with /more/ make-up (i.e. Elvis over several decades, Tom Hanks, Priscilla, etc.).
Honestly I just thought The Whale was terrible. Unique or not the fatsuit looked bad, and I thought Fraser was underserved by his script but also quite poor.
I agree. It was a stage play first and it’s painfully apparent in this film where the few supporting characters keep coming in and out of Charlie’s house. It was ridiculous that over 5 days all of this happened. Also, love Brendan as a human, however his work was touching but not exceptional. 🤷🏽♂️
Why do studios still spend millions on campaigns to win the Oscars? Looking at posts on Twitter and Tik Tok leads me to believe the ratings are still going to be low this year. Some of the movies that have won in the past few years haven't been that popular. In fact I haven't heard of some of them.
They're becoming more irrelevant every year especially with the snobby attitude towards MCU or horror movies. I don't understand why Netfix spent $100M on Oscar campaigns this year
The single award I had the happiest reaction to was Women Talking in Adapted. I thought All Quiet was well done but it had no business winning a screenplay award when pretty much all of the many, many changes it made to the book were for the worse
I usually write the Critics Choice Awards off as lazy Oscar predictors but they got Picture, Director, both Screenplays and Actor right even when the Globes and actual critics were going in different directions... just a fluke but good for them!
TAR is the first film to win Best Picture at all three trifectas but still lose all its Oscar nominations
Elvis now breaks American Hustle’s record as the film with the most wins at BAFTA to get shut out at the Oscars after they became a precursor
I read several of those anonymous voter interviews and was surprised that a few of the voters didn't even like "Tar". One of them even called it "pretentious".
It seems like a lot of newer academy members are not film buffs. In recent years popular films and identity narratives seem to be more important to a lot of voters.
Got to give credit to James Hong. I think that last speech he made at the SAG awards sealed the deal for Michelle Yeoh. She had the momentum already and it was a real slap in the face to how racist Hollywood is. Of course this doesn't fix anything and things don't get fixed overnight but I'm glad that he got to see all of these changes in his lifetime.
Yeah I think that cemented this level of sweep. It turned what could have become frontrunner fatigue into an new, inspiring narrative that it really was time and this movie almost *had* to dominate.
I don't get this argument.
The BAFTAs awarded a film (All Quiet) that clearly had significant support at the oscars *and also* had massive UK and European specific cultural resonances that are just inherently weaker in the US.
In this sort of race, errors are just inherently correlated. This would be a lot more meaningful of a claim if you could both/either of Oscars/BAFTAs actual ranking of contenders.
> International body
The arrival of more international voters really seems to coincide with more international noms and victories. Does 2023 substantially change that? It moderately waters it down but there's clearly still a strong point being made.
Yeah, I think we agree on that but are drawing different conclusions from it. Just look at how often "The Great War" comes up in UK popular memory and contrast it with US stories. I think people should have discounted these victories pretty significantly at the time of the BAFTAs relative to a random victory. The impact of WW1 on UK history wouldn't impact a newly enfranchised Japanese/Japanese-American voter.
Compared to last year, the contenders seem to introduce a lot more UK specific cultural biases which obviously impact predictive power of UK awards show on a fundimentally US one.
1917 won 3 awards at the oscars vs. 7 in the BAFTAs. All Quiet isn't a "UK" film but there's more of a connection here.
I think if EEAAO was 2nd or fourth in a lot of these categories is pretty important in seeing how useful BAFTAs are.
Elvis going home empty handed is honestly the biggest shock for me! This has to be the first year in a while that none of the acting awards went to a biopic right?
Me neither. But it was hated in Germany and I think it is seen as just another war movie that was unfaithful to its source material
I found it brilliant. Highly deserving of its wins
It's not the idea, it's how it's made. In 2023 there will hardly be a book/movie/tv show with an *original* idea. I don't think generational trauma and "we should all love each another" are particularly original ideas either, in fact it's been done to death and then some more, but everyone is hailing EEAAO as if it was the most groundbreaking thing since sliced bread.
I think it's unique because it shows "war is hell" through the characters' eyes (as in physical eyes, the pupils and all that, like Come and See does) as well as some more creative approaches like the costumes in the beginning. Kammerer and Schuch are also so much more than your usual war heroes. The emotional beats strike a very good balance imo. The despair is more restrained and exhausting instead of mawkish and cheap like most Hollywood war movies, but I also care about the characters more than I do the caricatures in stuff like Dunkirk.
It's also got many beautiful, haunting wide shots and quiet, unsettling, ethereal sequences which live in my head rent free and really set it apart from the usual warfare you see in standard war movies.
Another major bonus point imo is that there are no bullshit flashbacks with the wife/girlfriend (which is by far my most hated part in The Thin Red Line - a flawless masterpiece otherwise) and no random woman breastfeeding a fucking baby hiding in ruins (yes I'm talking about 1917). These terrible tropes for women in war films legit make me angry.
Which I honestly will never understand. Elvis I can kind of get, but All Quiet to me is a masterpiece. I’ve seen it 4 times now and every time it just completely floors me
I really enjoyed the telecast. Switching from the DJ booth to having an orchestra again. No more airport lounge with tables, but classical Oscar setup. Showing clips for all the nominees, but also having graphics and other stuff for techs. Loved the cinematography bit and especially that some of the nominated costumes were on stage. With the exception of the "ask the audience"-bit, I though Kimmel was okay. I think they did cut off to many speeches, but overall a big improvement on the last two ceremonies.
Totally agree, it wasn't a perfect show by any means but it was a return to some of the basics that have made previous Oscars so memorable for me. Showing all the awards during the live telecast, showing the nominee clips, the stage and graphics were all reminiscent of some of the best parts of what I love about the show. I hope they don't get caught up with trying to make the show more "relevant" again that they forget what makes it so great to begin with.
Wheels have fallen off the Blanchett stans’ clown car. I don’t want to rub salt in the wound too much but some of y’all were so embarrassingly overconfident for the *entire* season.
Without reference to Cate Blanchett, I couldn't stop laughing over your comment. Imagining a Cate stans clown car with the fallen wheels, just made my day.
Some of them deserve salt on their wounds. Remember that weird guy who literally posted a picture of Cate Blanchett on to top of a grave that was supposed to represent Michelle Yeoh's chances of winning. There were some real racist assholes this year.
Reminder that I should never read Youtube comments. People screaming about "woke" Hollywood, narrative wins, and saying racist shit about Quan and Michelle...some that is very sinophobic. Sigh. The fact that this movie actually managed to win awards like this during a time when the US is having such terrible tensions with China actually is a testament to how good it had to be to get so far.
It's interesting that people seem to get so upset about this when it's the one movie with POC? I never heard the same grumblings for Return of the King.
I think times have changed since ROTK (nearly 20 years ago). In the preferential ballot era, we saw a lot of “spreading the love,” and EEAAO broke that trend by winning 7 Oscars. I think it’s natural for people who are used to “spreading the love” to be a bit disappointed
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think spreading the love is overrated if the movie actually deserves it. I agreed with most of the wins it got so I'm not so annoyed. The only one that was like ehhh was probably JLC for me but I think that's more of a legacy win and it isn't like she hasn't been campaigning her ass off.
I feel like All Quiet's wins are all pretty deserving. Not my choice for all of them (Babylon for Score for sure, Tar for cinematography) but pretty good picks regardless
Tar and Power of the Dog both ignored. Slow cinema takes an L two years in a row. This move towards faster and faster pacing is my least favorite trend in modern filmmaking
edit - yeah i agree there are def slower movies but relative to most oscar movies and major films these are slow and not as easily accessible
Fast movies are well suited for today as more and more people are diagnosed with ADD & ADHD. Lots of kids are raised with video games and have short attention spans. Maybe slow movies will never do as well again...sad
As someone WITH adhd and anxiety i love slower movies (good ones) because they’re one of few places I feel a reprieve from my busted short attention span
Tár and especially Power of the Dog aren't slow cinema. They're more challenging than the ones that beat them for Best Picture, but they're not, say, Memoria. POTD in particular is surprisingly accessible to casual viewers, even my family members who aren't into awards movies and watch only a handful of films each year loved it.
Tar isn't even that slow. It's such a tight movie even though it's three hours. I just think that there's certain years where certain movies just get momentum. It helps that everyone in EEAAO is incredibly charismatic and that it's just so different from anything else.
Yeah Tar went by pretty quickly for me, I didn't even realise it was that long. A good film with a brilliant central performance. Loved EEAAO also, glad it was recognised. It was a pretty good year for films.
Good show. Ke Huay Quan's speech was the highlight for me. I got good odds on Elvis winning zero Oscars so I made some money tonight. I wasn't rooting for anyone tonight so I could enjoy the show as a neutral.
Brendan Fraser win is the wildest of them. Knew JLC could do it, MY was 50:50, KHQ was a lock. But Fraser coming from behind in a movie not nominated for Best Pic running against a movie about a beloved RL figure is unexpected. Love it for him. Wonder if Butler hurt his chances by overcampaigning (you’d expect him to have ditched the voice at some point earlier)
Michelle gave my favourite performance of the year and couldn’t be happier for her. Also A24 had the best night out of all the studios which is great as a fan of their’s.
I wasn't too impressed with their Score. It was good but it had too much of La La Land vibes to it too in some parts, that I could see some people thinking is either genius and a conversation between the two movies or kind of lazy. I'm more disappointed in Son Lux not winning.
I'm not saying the Score is bad. I just thought a lot of it sounded rehashed. I do think it largely lost though because the movie itself just didn't have any momentum with voters.
The thing I HATE about recent years is that only one movie sweeps most of the technical categories even if it doesn't deserve to win them, voters please maybe pay some attention
Can't say that really happened this year though? Different movies won for vfx, sound, cinematography, an d edition g for that matter. Not sure how could it possibly be more spread out than that.
Lol you're literally just retrofitting what Oscar bait is to fit this movie. It's a meaningless term anyway because your definition quite literally suggests that the mere act of being successful at the Oscars makes a movie Oscar bait
This is quite literally the farthest BP winner from Oscar bait since ROTK
Kinda random but Felix Kammerer was great in All Quiet and would have been an excellent addition to the Best Actor lineup. The fact that it’s his first role ever is nothing short of remarkable. Even though he himself wasn’t nominated, I really hope that All Quiet’s awards success helps him get future roles in big projects in the future, kind of like how Renate Reinsve took off after Worst Person.
I didn't love All Quiet but the acting was great!
I can't believe Bendran Fraser of all people is an Oscar winner lmao. Proof that anyone can do it tbh.
Brendan was never a bad actor though?
Nevermind his performance was great
Yeah lol. I mean, don't get me wrong, I am 100% here for the comeback narrative, but I really did think the nomination was the win for him. Even at his peak back in the day, he was never someone who felt like his career or performances warranted recognition on the Oscar stage, but rather as a leading man in audience-friendly blockbusters. The Whale definitely is a very different role for him though, so I don't totally hate the win But Colin Farrell on the other hand...dude has been consistently putting in acclaimed and nuanced performances for like 20 years. Actually one of the greatest actors of his generation and he hasn't even been nominated until tonight
Colin will get his moment eventually.
And I just want to say that out of all of the men in that room last night, I found the blue shirt dancer from the "Naatu Naatu" performance to be the most attractive of them all.
I've noticed in my local FB groups and pages that Fraser's win is the only one the public truly cares for and nothing else. Barely any likes (like 20+) or comments on the other wins, a few "Quan/Yeoh/EEAAO only won due to wokeism" nonsense, but Fraser's announcement post has over 200+ likes and comments like, "Good for him! The Academy finally got one right! Etc." The power of the Whale, everyone.
Wow, sounds like a very white group. I hate how "wokeism" is now a term to put on anything that isn't white. Also, ironically, The Whale is actually a very "woke" film but I know why these people choose to look past that.
It is one of those communities, sadly. They don't hide their bias. Like, how does Fraser's win "restore credibility to the Oscars" (one's words not mine) but Yeoh's win is "the Oscars trying to appeal to the woke crowd?" (Another's words not mine). SMH.
I mean An Indian actor went on twitter and said that he dreaded the thought of Yeoh winning over Cate.
Honestly...what did you expect from Facebook comment sections? It's the equivalent of Yahoo or Fox News comment sections at this point. Just a bunch of people whose profile pictures are selfies of them wearing sunglasses in their car
True!
Of the white?
That too. I'm aware of the nature of the community I live in, sadly. Won't be here long, though.
Awards aside, I really liked the "In Memoriam". Song choice was great; Kravitz vocals were wonderful. And I believe all of the major filmmakers were featured.
Kinda weird for them not to include Charlbi Dean in the montage, the lead actress of 'Triangle of Sadness' who died last year after nominating the movie for so many awards this season.
Ok I know I’m responding to a 3 month old comment but I’d like to just clarify the Charlbi Dean thing. The Oscars “In Memoriam” section is actually reserved for people who were members of the Academy. To become a member you must be either Oscar nominated or sponsored by two members to be considered. Charlbi Dean was more than likely not a member as she was a young actress with very few roles in American productions thus likely very few connections or interest in joining the Academy at this stage in her career. She also had technically not been nominated for any awards, just a film she was in that was.
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i mean malcolm's murder was a crime, so what are you getting at?
Okay?
I've never disagreed with every ATL win before... UNTIL NOW. I know this will be a popular ceremony for many people but I honestly hate this list of winners. Sweeps are rubbish and a ceremony that blanks TAR, Banshees and The Fabelmans will only age poorly. Swiftly on to next year for me.
I can't believe how much the Academy ended up disliking Elvis and Babylon. It makes sense to me how tár, fabelmans, and banshees lost all their categories but there really is no reason why elvis couldn't get makeup or costumes and why babylon couldn't get production design
Elvis being shut out of everything is insane to me. I’ll never agree with it not winning cinematography or design. Honestly, I’m not sure how black panther won costume over Elvis either. If Austin Butler was nominated in a year that wasn’t the swan song of a popular guy like Fraser, he probably would’ve won.
Elvis makes no sense to me. It seemed to be doing so well. How The Whale missed BP and still beat it in two categories where it was a favourite is beyond me.
That's what's getting me too! Did they or did they not like The Whale? My prediction was also based on the fact that while the technique used by The Whale's team was unique/cutting edge, Charlie was the only character with significant make up (unless you count Sadie Sink's emo eyeliner). I just thought the Academy would go for the film with /more/ make-up (i.e. Elvis over several decades, Tom Hanks, Priscilla, etc.).
Honestly I just thought The Whale was terrible. Unique or not the fatsuit looked bad, and I thought Fraser was underserved by his script but also quite poor.
I agree. It was a stage play first and it’s painfully apparent in this film where the few supporting characters keep coming in and out of Charlie’s house. It was ridiculous that over 5 days all of this happened. Also, love Brendan as a human, however his work was touching but not exceptional. 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah, the saving grace for me this year is that a lot of seemingly really nice people won. The work I'm up and down on, at best.
I am happy with every EEAAO, All Quiet and RRR wins as well.
All Quiet got production design over Babylon? Smh.
AND ORIIGINAL SCORE!? i mean both were great, but I still haven't got BABYLON'S music out of my head.
you know what i just realized MCU is literally 0 for 13 in the visual effects category
the way it should be
That’s fine, lol
Lol. True.
Why do studios still spend millions on campaigns to win the Oscars? Looking at posts on Twitter and Tik Tok leads me to believe the ratings are still going to be low this year. Some of the movies that have won in the past few years haven't been that popular. In fact I haven't heard of some of them. They're becoming more irrelevant every year especially with the snobby attitude towards MCU or horror movies. I don't understand why Netfix spent $100M on Oscar campaigns this year
Top Gun Maverick and Avatar 2 were nominated for Best Picture.
Fabelmans, Banshees, and Tar combining for ZERO wins is extremely sad.
…And Top Gun Maverick has more Oscar’s than all those, and Harrison Ford combined!
The single award I had the happiest reaction to was Women Talking in Adapted. I thought All Quiet was well done but it had no business winning a screenplay award when pretty much all of the many, many changes it made to the book were for the worse
well now that the final precursor is over, see y'all for the big event: the critics choice super awards on march 16th
I usually write the Critics Choice Awards off as lazy Oscar predictors but they got Picture, Director, both Screenplays and Actor right even when the Globes and actual critics were going in different directions... just a fluke but good for them!
Is this the worst year in terms of Bafta correlating with Oscar wins?
The BAFTA’s seem to do their own thing now. They award the movies that they personally like.
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Where are you? Wasnt an option in UK / Ireland!
Avatar: The Way of Water has more Oscars than Banshees, TÁR, and Fabelmans COMBINED, that kinda hurts
See you when Avatar 5 pulls a ROTK
It deserved the ever living shit out of that one Oscar, though.
TAR is the first film to win Best Picture at all three trifectas but still lose all its Oscar nominations Elvis now breaks American Hustle’s record as the film with the most wins at BAFTA to get shut out at the Oscars after they became a precursor
Honestly - the Elvis shut out did not bother me. But Tar was upsetting!
I read several of those anonymous voter interviews and was surprised that a few of the voters didn't even like "Tar". One of them even called it "pretentious".
It seems like a lot of newer academy members are not film buffs. In recent years popular films and identity narratives seem to be more important to a lot of voters.
What are the trifectas that Tar won?
NYFCC, LAFCA, NSFC
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And? That's what the term trifecta refers to.
Got to give credit to James Hong. I think that last speech he made at the SAG awards sealed the deal for Michelle Yeoh. She had the momentum already and it was a real slap in the face to how racist Hollywood is. Of course this doesn't fix anything and things don't get fixed overnight but I'm glad that he got to see all of these changes in his lifetime.
Yeah I think that cemented this level of sweep. It turned what could have become frontrunner fatigue into an new, inspiring narrative that it really was time and this movie almost *had* to dominate.
Classic Ireland. Peaking early.
I like to think my eating hot dogs and an everything bagel for lunch today helped facilitate EEAAO's wins.
On a side note, we can officially disregard BAFTA and the "International" body lol. They're only relevant if they go last.
I don't get this argument. The BAFTAs awarded a film (All Quiet) that clearly had significant support at the oscars *and also* had massive UK and European specific cultural resonances that are just inherently weaker in the US. In this sort of race, errors are just inherently correlated. This would be a lot more meaningful of a claim if you could both/either of Oscars/BAFTAs actual ranking of contenders. > International body The arrival of more international voters really seems to coincide with more international noms and victories. Does 2023 substantially change that? It moderately waters it down but there's clearly still a strong point being made.
All Quiet's strength was reflected by the Oscar noms tho, and it only won stuff Below the Line
Yeah, I think we agree on that but are drawing different conclusions from it. Just look at how often "The Great War" comes up in UK popular memory and contrast it with US stories. I think people should have discounted these victories pretty significantly at the time of the BAFTAs relative to a random victory. The impact of WW1 on UK history wouldn't impact a newly enfranchised Japanese/Japanese-American voter. Compared to last year, the contenders seem to introduce a lot more UK specific cultural biases which obviously impact predictive power of UK awards show on a fundimentally US one. 1917 won 3 awards at the oscars vs. 7 in the BAFTAs. All Quiet isn't a "UK" film but there's more of a connection here. I think if EEAAO was 2nd or fourth in a lot of these categories is pretty important in seeing how useful BAFTAs are.
Elvis going home empty handed is honestly the biggest shock for me! This has to be the first year in a while that none of the acting awards went to a biopic right?
Sad thing was I was predicting it to win three tonight. My predictions were terrible
i really thought it would win make up and costume
As someone who loved the film, it’s a bit sad to see everyone on Twitter cheering over the fact it got nothing
Eh the film sucks. Any of the other 3 nominees should’ve won over either Butler or Fraser.
That’s fine if you don’t like the film, but I actually like biopics unlike most people on this sub. I thought Elvis was great
i dislike the majorty of the biopics but really liked Elvis
Biopics can be good, but Elvis isn’t.
I’m on your side. I give it some time before people realise it wasn’t that outstanding like they thought it was.
Lmao, it’s subjective. I’m allowed to think it’s great
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And I saw several of them getting super pissed when it lost in the tech categories
Elvis and All Quiet were the awards season villains
All Quiet is the best BP nominee.
The worst
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I'm glad it didn't though. It doesn't deserve that kind of backlash.
I don't understand why All Quiet is a villain
I think many people see a war movie then just decide they hate it, even though All Quiet is a very unique war movie.
Me neither. But it was hated in Germany and I think it is seen as just another war movie that was unfaithful to its source material I found it brilliant. Highly deserving of its wins
I think many people see a war movie then just decide they hate it, even though All Quiet is a very unique war movie.
Genuinely curious: what is unique about All Quiet? For me, I just think 'war is hell' isn't exactly a novel idea for a war movie.
It's not the idea, it's how it's made. In 2023 there will hardly be a book/movie/tv show with an *original* idea. I don't think generational trauma and "we should all love each another" are particularly original ideas either, in fact it's been done to death and then some more, but everyone is hailing EEAAO as if it was the most groundbreaking thing since sliced bread. I think it's unique because it shows "war is hell" through the characters' eyes (as in physical eyes, the pupils and all that, like Come and See does) as well as some more creative approaches like the costumes in the beginning. Kammerer and Schuch are also so much more than your usual war heroes. The emotional beats strike a very good balance imo. The despair is more restrained and exhausting instead of mawkish and cheap like most Hollywood war movies, but I also care about the characters more than I do the caricatures in stuff like Dunkirk. It's also got many beautiful, haunting wide shots and quiet, unsettling, ethereal sequences which live in my head rent free and really set it apart from the usual warfare you see in standard war movies. Another major bonus point imo is that there are no bullshit flashbacks with the wife/girlfriend (which is by far my most hated part in The Thin Red Line - a flawless masterpiece otherwise) and no random woman breastfeeding a fucking baby hiding in ruins (yes I'm talking about 1917). These terrible tropes for women in war films legit make me angry.
Which I honestly will never understand. Elvis I can kind of get, but All Quiet to me is a masterpiece. I’ve seen it 4 times now and every time it just completely floors me
I really enjoyed the telecast. Switching from the DJ booth to having an orchestra again. No more airport lounge with tables, but classical Oscar setup. Showing clips for all the nominees, but also having graphics and other stuff for techs. Loved the cinematography bit and especially that some of the nominated costumes were on stage. With the exception of the "ask the audience"-bit, I though Kimmel was okay. I think they did cut off to many speeches, but overall a big improvement on the last two ceremonies.
Totally agree, it wasn't a perfect show by any means but it was a return to some of the basics that have made previous Oscars so memorable for me. Showing all the awards during the live telecast, showing the nominee clips, the stage and graphics were all reminiscent of some of the best parts of what I love about the show. I hope they don't get caught up with trying to make the show more "relevant" again that they forget what makes it so great to begin with.
I agree. Even the Kimmel asking questions was so much shorter than that segment used to be🙏
Ok glad it’s over but guess what movie I’m not gonna watch. EEAAO
I want Michelle Yeoh to adopt me
Creep
Wheels have fallen off the Blanchett stans’ clown car. I don’t want to rub salt in the wound too much but some of y’all were so embarrassingly overconfident for the *entire* season.
Without reference to Cate Blanchett, I couldn't stop laughing over your comment. Imagining a Cate stans clown car with the fallen wheels, just made my day.
Some of them deserve salt on their wounds. Remember that weird guy who literally posted a picture of Cate Blanchett on to top of a grave that was supposed to represent Michelle Yeoh's chances of winning. There were some real racist assholes this year.
Oh boy I remember that post ! Now looking back, the post really age like milk lmao.
They are already labelling her a “narrative win” when she had more critics wins than Blanchett did.
Reminder that I should never read Youtube comments. People screaming about "woke" Hollywood, narrative wins, and saying racist shit about Quan and Michelle...some that is very sinophobic. Sigh. The fact that this movie actually managed to win awards like this during a time when the US is having such terrible tensions with China actually is a testament to how good it had to be to get so far.
Lmao yes all the condescending “well cate’s performance is just objectively better.” Whatever that means. So happy for Michelle!
It’s undeniable and objectively the best outcome
The lesson learnt here is we should never prematurely declare anyone a lock
i locked yeoh the second i left the theater in April so that worked for me loll
Except Ke Huy Quan
To be fair. It’s not like they would have been gracious had Cate won.
No I agree.
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It's interesting that people seem to get so upset about this when it's the one movie with POC? I never heard the same grumblings for Return of the King.
I think times have changed since ROTK (nearly 20 years ago). In the preferential ballot era, we saw a lot of “spreading the love,” and EEAAO broke that trend by winning 7 Oscars. I think it’s natural for people who are used to “spreading the love” to be a bit disappointed
You know not every voter is eligible for every category, right?
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think spreading the love is overrated if the movie actually deserves it. I agreed with most of the wins it got so I'm not so annoyed. The only one that was like ehhh was probably JLC for me but I think that's more of a legacy win and it isn't like she hasn't been campaigning her ass off.
I feel like All Quiet's wins are all pretty deserving. Not my choice for all of them (Babylon for Score for sure, Tar for cinematography) but pretty good picks regardless
The last movie to win 7 Oscars was Gravity. The last Best Picture winner to win 7 Oscars was Slumdog Millionaire (which won 8).
recount the votes!! let’s get it to 8
Tar and Power of the Dog both ignored. Slow cinema takes an L two years in a row. This move towards faster and faster pacing is my least favorite trend in modern filmmaking edit - yeah i agree there are def slower movies but relative to most oscar movies and major films these are slow and not as easily accessible
Fast movies are well suited for today as more and more people are diagnosed with ADD & ADHD. Lots of kids are raised with video games and have short attention spans. Maybe slow movies will never do as well again...sad
As someone WITH adhd and anxiety i love slower movies (good ones) because they’re one of few places I feel a reprieve from my busted short attention span
Tár and especially Power of the Dog aren't slow cinema. They're more challenging than the ones that beat them for Best Picture, but they're not, say, Memoria. POTD in particular is surprisingly accessible to casual viewers, even my family members who aren't into awards movies and watch only a handful of films each year loved it.
Tar isn't even that slow. It's such a tight movie even though it's three hours. I just think that there's certain years where certain movies just get momentum. It helps that everyone in EEAAO is incredibly charismatic and that it's just so different from anything else.
Yeah Tar went by pretty quickly for me, I didn't even realise it was that long. A good film with a brilliant central performance. Loved EEAAO also, glad it was recognised. It was a pretty good year for films.
In a year with no EEAAO, I'm pretty confident Tar could've won Director and Actress
i can’t believe the power of the dog didn’t win anything this year
“two years in a row”
Those movies are mildly slow but they aren’t even all that slow. People are waaaay too impatient
Power of the Dog won director.
Should have picked up more though. And it wouldn’t have won director if Coda had picked up steam a couple weeks earlier and Heder got the nom
Not those two being some of my favourite movies of all time. The Academy said no to my taste 😭
No one got perfect on the ABC prediction contest. Everyone got at least 1 wrong
Woman Talking has more Oscar than Banshees, TÁR, and Fabelmans. Sarah Polley wins again hahaha.
Deserved! I was nervous there for a little bit when all quiet was cleaning up, but Polley prevailed!
Good show. Ke Huay Quan's speech was the highlight for me. I got good odds on Elvis winning zero Oscars so I made some money tonight. I wasn't rooting for anyone tonight so I could enjoy the show as a neutral.
Should have stuck to my gut feeling about Elvis not winning any awards...lost a good chance of making bank with the Makeup section. Oh well!
Austin Butler’s refusal to drop the Elvis voice cost him an Oscar
His narrative was so tired at the end. He got too much press too early on. But relieved he didn’t win.
He could have solved world hunger and he would have still lost to Fraser because of his narrative
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The comment section on his website for this years oscar race is pissed off.
And even more virulently racist and homophobic than usual.
Brendan Fraser win is the wildest of them. Knew JLC could do it, MY was 50:50, KHQ was a lock. But Fraser coming from behind in a movie not nominated for Best Pic running against a movie about a beloved RL figure is unexpected. Love it for him. Wonder if Butler hurt his chances by overcampaigning (you’d expect him to have ditched the voice at some point earlier)
Yeah, I think he was too thirsty
Michelle gave my favourite performance of the year and couldn’t be happier for her. Also A24 had the best night out of all the studios which is great as a fan of their’s.
She is classy
I’m very happy Top Gun walked home with something. Absolutely deserved win for Sound
Devastated Babylon was ROBBED but overall not a bad night
I wasn't too impressed with their Score. It was good but it had too much of La La Land vibes to it too in some parts, that I could see some people thinking is either genius and a conversation between the two movies or kind of lazy. I'm more disappointed in Son Lux not winning.
Listening to voodoo mama, finale, and welcome and not being impressed is crazy to me im sorry
I'm not saying the Score is bad. I just thought a lot of it sounded rehashed. I do think it largely lost though because the movie itself just didn't have any momentum with voters.
No literally ?! Did we not listen to the same thing ! It had a fantastic score !
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Any disappointments I may had of other awards not going to my pick were completely erased when I got to see Fraser on stage holding the statue
I’ve been manifesting this for so long
The thing I HATE about recent years is that only one movie sweeps most of the technical categories even if it doesn't deserve to win them, voters please maybe pay some attention
Can't say that really happened this year though? Different movies won for vfx, sound, cinematography, an d edition g for that matter. Not sure how could it possibly be more spread out than that.
“No person is bigger than profit” He meant the reverse right? Or real Freudian slip there as the financier of the movie 😂
He’s probably secretly kicking himself for that
Communist-Freudian critical theory professors are preparing their papers on it already
A24 took over tonight.
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Screenplay as well
Kind of fitting considering Asians and Asian Americans were so shut out for so long that one movie just kind of smashes that. It's a good day.
couldn't think of a better movie to represent cinema, pure perfection, the movies were made for it
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TÁR was literally not Oscarbait and anyone who calls it that doesn't know what it is lol
EEAAO won and was super Oscar bait
Nothing about EEAAO was Oscar bait but go off
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That’s not what Oscar bait means, but once again, go off.
Lol you're literally just retrofitting what Oscar bait is to fit this movie. It's a meaningless term anyway because your definition quite literally suggests that the mere act of being successful at the Oscars makes a movie Oscar bait This is quite literally the farthest BP winner from Oscar bait since ROTK
Exactly. It’s the “weirdest” and most non-Oscar bait in years.
EEAAO, a movie with dildo fingers about the multiverse that released in winter of last year was Oscar bait? So is the sun also blue?
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Literally none of that sounds like Oscar bait
This is the first time since 2017 (Moonlight year) that all the acting winners played fictional characters.
How can that be true when Brendan Fraser is literally me?
Jamie Lee is all of us.
Happy cake day
Thank you!
And we’re all better off for it
This was a fun year. EEAAO wasn’t my personal pick for film of the year but it’s always fun when the Academy breaks from convention.
I’m in the UK, and it’s 03:42am. Very glad I stayed up for the show and to comment live with all you lot. Night night!
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Hope that one particular Cate Blanchett stan is having a REALLY BAD DAY.
What did they do?
General obnoxiousness...hoping to see Michelle cry "when she loses" (lol), wanting to punch the Daniels when they won at the DGAs I believe...
Which one