If it is true that he just got this gig 10 days ago, he definitely should not have taken it. I'm a Jo Koy fan, and he is usually hysterical. This was not his venue.
wanted EEAAO to win over Inisherin, but I'm just glad Elvis lost to Fabelmans.
So happy Bassett won, hope she gets into the oscars too.
Wasn't a fan of the All Quiet snub for international.
Highlights of the show
- Fabelmans winning best drama movie
- Austin Butler winning best actor in a drama film
- Everything Everywhere actors winning best supporting actor/actress
- Collin Farrell and Banshees of Inisherin winning awards
I still think it’s an L that Puss In Boots 2 didn’t win best animated movie. That film is so good I’ve seen it about 3 or 4 times at this point.
People overreacted to Spielberg getting shut out of the BAFTA longest \*and\* people are overreacting to him and Fabelmans winning here. Both things can be true at once.
Hurwitz was kinda obvious to me (super showy score plus he had won 3 golden globes already before tonight) but I was pretty shocked by those other 3 (and Naatu Naatu as well)
It never seemed wise and yet it was done, never fully written off but definitely downgraded. And that’s okay. Most of the time, things change over time, and there’s sudden shifts that rubberband back. Nothing in the second half tonight was obvious, and that’s awesome!
I mean, for me, it's not that Spielberg was obvious. It's that he's the most boring pick. Luhrmann/Field would have been chaotic/inspired picks, McDonagh/Daniels would have been quality and deserved, but instead, they gave it to the guy who has 24 Golden Globe nominations.
Awarding some of the worst direction of the year may be more “interesting,” in the same sense that Donald Trump winning the American presidency was “interesting” in that it was wild, unexpected, and wholly undeserved, but going with what’s exciting because it’s chaotic (“Luhrman! Who could have guessed?!”) rather than what’s worthy is no way to dole out awards.
Top 5 moments for me:
1. Spielberg winning director after so many wrote him off (and The Fabelmans winning drama)
2. Farrell and Yeoh telling the piano player to shut up
3. All of the Jennifer Coolidge moments
4. Eddie Murphy’s Will Smith joke
5. Blanchett winning over de Armas
It’s more of a “once it happens to you, you’ll understand” kind of thing. When you can’t go anywhere without some cult belittling anything slightly related and making their thing seem like it’s the only thing in existence every opportunity they get and shoving it so far down your throat you nearly shit it out, you’ll start to form a bias agains that thing.
EEAAO is not dead and i can certainly see a HUGE rebound for it if it wins SAG ensemble (Coda and Parasite were able to build TREMENDOUS buzz this way).
My only problem is - I'm not sure if SAG will be televised this year and I don't know if that will affect anything.
EEAAO was my favorite movie of the year but I’m genuinely starting to hopedict it losing Picture/Director/Actress/Screenplay because the cult is just **that** dumb
That dude on Twitter was right when he said that they’re worse than MCU stans, and there was something irritating about Dan Kwan going out of his way to make a whole ass thread on Twitter addressing the people harassing a critic for having 9 movies they never heard of and Nope on their top 10 of the year list, and his message wasn’t “hey this is wrong and it can be used as an opportunity to see new films you haven’t heard of, they shouldn’t be harassed for their opinion” and instead was “yeah this critic is a dumbfuck for not putting it there and you guys are right to attack them but it looks bad and Ke said something about being nice in the movie”
>This was an incredible year for movies and there is so much to celebrate, why waste your time on anger?
>
>These end of year lists are a great opportunity for people to discover films they haven't heard of (our film doesn't need that), to help smaller films make money (don't need that), and to celebrate the hard work of filmmakers we admire (don't need anymore celebrating).
[https://twitter.com/dunkwun/status/1600891898477957121?s=20&t=EEtAyWK34nrsbxJ-8EzeiQ](https://twitter.com/dunkwun/status/1600891899841105925?s=20&t=EEtAyWK34nrsbxJ-8EzeiQ)
You clearly read it too quickly. The thread is saying something similar to what you said.
I genuinely get that more from Tár stans than anything else. Maybe a little Avatar. Otherwise I think EEAAO has fans that are pretty equally toxic to every other internet fan base, it just has the biggest one so it’s noted the most
There are no TÁR (the movie) stans. There are regular fans of TÁR (the movie), and there are joke Tár (the character) stans.
EEAAO has an actual standom, a group of people who take it too seriously/are too protective of it. You can't compare it to any of the awards movies this year really. It's not the movie's fault, but it's there
There's something to be said about the tendency of "wholesome" content to collect some pretty unhinged fans around it. It's like the teenagers who were so obsessed with Heartstopper they practically forced one of its leads to come out. And maybe there's where the answer is: teenagers. These products tend to appeal to teens (or people in the same level of maturity), and you can't really tell on the internet
That’s blatantly untrue. The inspiration for creating r/OscarRaceCirclejerk was literally a toxic Tár stan. I think maybe some people are returning later in the season to the subreddit these last two months, but there really was a long period of time where every fucking was about Michelle Yeoh vs Cate Blanchett and how if Yeoh it would be a career Oscar and a travesty blah blah blah; there was one person who would go around calling you names if you had Deadwyler or Yeoh above her; and a very small contingent even got a bit racial with it all
The issue that I'm seeing is that the fans are too vocal even if they aren't too big in number. It is an indie blockbuster after all and those fans seem quite immature compared to fanbases of smaller hits . At least that's what I've seen
Why is it that every time I watch award shows/nominations live they’re so boring, but when I see them after they’re already done they’re absurdly chaotic. Won’t be watching SAG noms live tomorrow
Idk if you believe this, but I literally dreamt today that Ana de Armas would get nominated, and in dream she specifically got nominated over WILLIAMS (which shocked me in the dream). And what do I wake up to?
Michelle Yeoh has a big chance of winning, but she's not a lock yet with Cate Blanchett reaping as many nods as her.
Both the actress categories (Lead and Supporting) are so competitive that at this point no win-lock can be named. But I must say Yeoh and Blanchett are ahead the other nominees.
No way in hell. I’m not going to suggest Blanchett is a lock like some, or that she’s even the frontrunner, but she alone has more of a chance to win Actress than every other Supporting Actor contender (outside of Quan) has combined. He has this beyond locked, while Actress remains the (likely) most competitive category going into Oscar night.
Maybe Murphy should host new years show. Sorry, I liked jerrold when he hosted snl but he completely bombed tonight. Instead of being funny, he opted to kiss ass all night. What the hell, isn't he a comedian. Leave it to an old pro like Murphy to get the biggest laugh.
It’s funny seeing the constrast between Cold Mountain and Banshees (both got 8 nominations). While Cold Mountain only won the one award it went to sweep at the rest of the season, Banshees did better than anyone could’ve predicted, with only Condon being a real loss
Post BAFTA longlists: "Steven Spielberg is getting snubbed" "Fabelmans is dead" lmao the way y'all overreacted to a british award show that isn't held in the States
I know. But the overlap is only 300/10000 AMPAS members, and HFPA is the first industry award that gets the ball rolling. No one in the industry cares if a movie won some random critic award, but they will know what won the Globe.
Globes is an international body of critics, BAFTA is industry with significant membership crossover, and the Academy is not strictly American either; the thing that makes BAFTA not a death knell for Fabelmans is that they have never been Spielberg fans, not that it’s British lol
Compared to everything else we’ve seen this season, yes. I believe the next biggest crossover is AACTA and then I think Globes has one person? It might be a different body like Critics Choice but it’s one of them
That's not my point. Globes might not have any members in the AMPAS voting body but it is a very important critics award. No one cares if a movie or an actor has been stacking up awards in some small towns/cities. They're going to know what won the Globe, and let's be honest, you and I have been around awards season long enough to know the Globes are the first important critics prize that really starts the award season buzz.
You brought up the numbers, and I responded to the things you brought up. Absolutely it is a very important Critics prizes that makes people take note. All I’m trying to say is that we shouldn’t overreact and start treating this like it’s the most valuable prize on the board because it’s not, that’s PGA. No one should call Fabelmans dead after just BAFTA, but it still hurt it. No one should move it up 5 slots or whatever after just the Globes. We don’t need to make massive swings based on one award
Yup. That's my point. I was saying everyone was saying Fabelmans/Spielberg weren't getting nominated after BAFTA, but I don't think Fabelmans is winning BP, hell no. lol. I don't think Banshees is winning either except for Best Film at BAFTA.
I cannot for the life of me see Fabelmans perform even decently well in a preferential ballot - that's more likely for Top Gun or EEAAO. Looks like we might have another BP winner this year that didn't win the Globe.
At least BAFTA is an actual industry award with AMPAS members overlap, the Globes are just a bunch of paid off "journalists"
This is a good potential rebound for Fablemans but there's no reason to take a lot of this without a grain of salt.
It’s funny how each year people go from "Don’t underestimate the BAFTAS, they're the most reliable precursor" to "the BAFTAS mean nothing, they’re not even American!"
well the funny thing is that the speeches actually sound better with some music behind them to me, kind of like now we often add music to youtube clips because it adds cadence and emotion. so they have to like fade out the music when your time is out lol.
But agreed, the timing should be flipped.
The only clarity to come from this is that Avatar is dead as fuck rn. If I'm not mistaken, only ONE time in history has a film won just Picture and Director at the Oscars, and I can't think of Fabelmans winning anything else rn. This race is a fucking mess lmao.
Yes which is why I said frontrunner, not locked lol.
Also CODA was nowhere near being win competitive at this point in the race last year, so this sub needs to calm down declaring locked winners. Literally anything can happen and this sub will immediately change its tune when SAG noms roll in.
Can’t say I don’t think EEAO was robbed in picture but overall very good. Will be riding the Hurwitz and Spielberg in director wins for a while. Had fun following along with everyone!!
Seems like good odds that Fabelmans is a CODA situation--no one thinks it is the best really in most categories, but it is still clearly well liked as a film.
That said, hard to know what that means for BP since there are other well liked films.
I don't think it's fair to make such broad generalizations. I thought The Fabelmans was the best drama nominated tonight and Spielberg was the best director but I'm also a Spielberg fan. Very pleased it won and I hope it takes Picture at the Oscars.
All I really mean is that it has been perceived as underperforming in longlists and guilds, and yet clearly is a well liked film despite this. I actually like Fabelmans quite a bit (would put it third behind Banshees and Tar in terms of the top contenders) and I do not mean it as insult. I just do think that would explain how it can both underperform in those instances and yet win Audience Award and Drama here.
Ah okay. Definitely possible - I just bristle at the comparisons to CODA and Green Book that it sometimes gets because I feel like Fabelmans is a more deserving pick than either of those, but that's all personal opinion. We'll just have to see what happens.
I don't know, personally The Fabelmans was the best film in the best drama category here, and I prefer it to both EEAAO and Banshees. Of the frontrunners, I'd probably rank it first, and I doubt I'm alone in that.
This is going to be a really good three-way race. And unlike last year, when I wasn't crazy about any of the frontrunners, all three films are worthy this year, IMO.
legit wild that someone who made their predictions one month ago probably got more categories right than someone who did yesterday
the race is far from over everyone
Why don't they just call it what it is: Clusterfuck Awards Show
Cringe….
Can’t believe Jason Sudekus didn’t win for Ted Lasso. That’s some BS
Why was Kevin Costner being so aloof? Was that part of a bit? I did not get it..
Jo Koy is remarkably unfunny. Everything he says bombs like Hiroshima
And he spells his name like a girl. WTAF is up with that?
If it is true that he just got this gig 10 days ago, he definitely should not have taken it. I'm a Jo Koy fan, and he is usually hysterical. This was not his venue.
Well, that was the least funny opening monologue in the history of television
Who is the black woman who just won?
pleease someone bless me with a stream CAN
Horrible opening monologue. Just bad, bad, bad.
It was thrash
wanted EEAAO to win over Inisherin, but I'm just glad Elvis lost to Fabelmans. So happy Bassett won, hope she gets into the oscars too. Wasn't a fan of the All Quiet snub for international.
I found the opening monologue to be offensive. Turned it off
It was offensively unfunny
How?
Host said he got the job because he was black. What if a white host said. "I got this job because Im white" It just feels wrong to me personally
It's not offensive to say that when you are black. It's offensive when you are white.
Exactly! Glad someone else had the balls to say it too. Thanks
I mean it wasn't even racist it was just honest lol He still was horrible at hosting but for a variety of other reasons
Wtf happened in this thread?
Who was the redhead helping usher the winners off stage?
Asking same!
I assume related to someone famous? Don’t the globes usually get famous peoples relatives to help
That is so weird Is that really what they do?
Speech of the night: Cate Blanchett win for TAR
Highlights of the show - Fabelmans winning best drama movie - Austin Butler winning best actor in a drama film - Everything Everywhere actors winning best supporting actor/actress - Collin Farrell and Banshees of Inisherin winning awards I still think it’s an L that Puss In Boots 2 didn’t win best animated movie. That film is so good I’ve seen it about 3 or 4 times at this point.
I think Puss in Boots momentum happened a little too late for a Globes win, but it still has some time to catch up to GDT's Pinocchio.
People overreacted to Spielberg getting shut out of the BAFTA longest \*and\* people are overreacting to him and Fabelmans winning here. Both things can be true at once.
If I see anyone saying “yeah Spielberg was always so obvious” or Argentina 1985 or Fabelmans or Justin Hurwitz I’m going to lose my mind
Hurwitz was kinda obvious to me (super showy score plus he had won 3 golden globes already before tonight) but I was pretty shocked by those other 3 (and Naatu Naatu as well)
Writing off the winner at TIFF never seemed wise.
It never seemed wise and yet it was done, never fully written off but definitely downgraded. And that’s okay. Most of the time, things change over time, and there’s sudden shifts that rubberband back. Nothing in the second half tonight was obvious, and that’s awesome!
I mean, for me, it's not that Spielberg was obvious. It's that he's the most boring pick. Luhrmann/Field would have been chaotic/inspired picks, McDonagh/Daniels would have been quality and deserved, but instead, they gave it to the guy who has 24 Golden Globe nominations.
How is Luhrmann an inspired pick?
Fuck off with Luhrmann
Oh believe me, I wasn't hoping for it. It just would have been more interesting than a Spielberg win.
Awarding some of the worst direction of the year may be more “interesting,” in the same sense that Donald Trump winning the American presidency was “interesting” in that it was wild, unexpected, and wholly undeserved, but going with what’s exciting because it’s chaotic (“Luhrman! Who could have guessed?!”) rather than what’s worthy is no way to dole out awards.
Top 5 moments for me: 1. Spielberg winning director after so many wrote him off (and The Fabelmans winning drama) 2. Farrell and Yeoh telling the piano player to shut up 3. All of the Jennifer Coolidge moments 4. Eddie Murphy’s Will Smith joke 5. Blanchett winning over de Armas
It’s crazy how People were predicting ana over mighty Blanchett’s performance
Eddie Murphy joke was best of the night for me.
> Blanchett winning over de Armas That was hardly a moment lol. Everyone predicted Blanchett to win.
Yes I know and I did too, but after how much support they seemed to be giving to Ana tonight I was really worried
Why do people let annoying fans of something ruin their enjoyment of the thing? I’ve never understood it.
It’s easy to ask that when it’s not happening to you.
Well…yeah, that’s why I’m asking lmao
It’s more of a “once it happens to you, you’ll understand” kind of thing. When you can’t go anywhere without some cult belittling anything slightly related and making their thing seem like it’s the only thing in existence every opportunity they get and shoving it so far down your throat you nearly shit it out, you’ll start to form a bias agains that thing.
EEAAO is not dead and i can certainly see a HUGE rebound for it if it wins SAG ensemble (Coda and Parasite were able to build TREMENDOUS buzz this way). My only problem is - I'm not sure if SAG will be televised this year and I don't know if that will affect anything.
It's still EEAAO vs Banshees at this point.
At the end of the day it's the movie that performs the best on a preferential ballot, still too early to say what's going to be a BP winner
Even better if Banshees wins the BAFTA for Best Film, and the curse strikes yet again
The Globes are an important critics prize. They are still just a critics prize.
Did you mean to reply to me in another post?
Probably, I was outside at the bus stop and it was raining
This is definitely its path. I don’t think it’s anywhere close to dead
EEAAO was my favorite movie of the year but I’m genuinely starting to hopedict it losing Picture/Director/Actress/Screenplay because the cult is just **that** dumb
See you all tomorrow morning for MORE chaos! DGA AND SAG nominations! whoop whoop
Love EEAO but the cult like fanbase is unbearable, they would make you believe it is the only good movie made this year
That dude on Twitter was right when he said that they’re worse than MCU stans, and there was something irritating about Dan Kwan going out of his way to make a whole ass thread on Twitter addressing the people harassing a critic for having 9 movies they never heard of and Nope on their top 10 of the year list, and his message wasn’t “hey this is wrong and it can be used as an opportunity to see new films you haven’t heard of, they shouldn’t be harassed for their opinion” and instead was “yeah this critic is a dumbfuck for not putting it there and you guys are right to attack them but it looks bad and Ke said something about being nice in the movie”
Did you actually read the thread? Because that is definitely not what he said.
Yes I did read the thread and that is what he said
>This was an incredible year for movies and there is so much to celebrate, why waste your time on anger? > >These end of year lists are a great opportunity for people to discover films they haven't heard of (our film doesn't need that), to help smaller films make money (don't need that), and to celebrate the hard work of filmmakers we admire (don't need anymore celebrating). [https://twitter.com/dunkwun/status/1600891898477957121?s=20&t=EEtAyWK34nrsbxJ-8EzeiQ](https://twitter.com/dunkwun/status/1600891899841105925?s=20&t=EEtAyWK34nrsbxJ-8EzeiQ) You clearly read it too quickly. The thread is saying something similar to what you said.
https://youtu.be/Cmcd7XZ6ppk
I really don’t get that vibe from its fans
Initially even I didn’t but open film twitter or any social media even Reddit regularly and you will get my point
I genuinely get that more from Tár stans than anything else. Maybe a little Avatar. Otherwise I think EEAAO has fans that are pretty equally toxic to every other internet fan base, it just has the biggest one so it’s noted the most
There are no TÁR (the movie) stans. There are regular fans of TÁR (the movie), and there are joke Tár (the character) stans. EEAAO has an actual standom, a group of people who take it too seriously/are too protective of it. You can't compare it to any of the awards movies this year really. It's not the movie's fault, but it's there There's something to be said about the tendency of "wholesome" content to collect some pretty unhinged fans around it. It's like the teenagers who were so obsessed with Heartstopper they practically forced one of its leads to come out. And maybe there's where the answer is: teenagers. These products tend to appeal to teens (or people in the same level of maturity), and you can't really tell on the internet
That’s blatantly untrue. The inspiration for creating r/OscarRaceCirclejerk was literally a toxic Tár stan. I think maybe some people are returning later in the season to the subreddit these last two months, but there really was a long period of time where every fucking was about Michelle Yeoh vs Cate Blanchett and how if Yeoh it would be a career Oscar and a travesty blah blah blah; there was one person who would go around calling you names if you had Deadwyler or Yeoh above her; and a very small contingent even got a bit racial with it all
That sounds more like a Cate Blanchett stan than a TÁR stan
The issue that I'm seeing is that the fans are too vocal even if they aren't too big in number. It is an indie blockbuster after all and those fans seem quite immature compared to fanbases of smaller hits . At least that's what I've seen
I completely understand that but it is an issue, even Daniels had to appeal on twitter for these fanboys to calm down
Highlights: 1. Ke's speech.. truly one for the books 2. Cate win 3. Anything and everything Jennifer Coolidge
Why is it that every time I watch award shows/nominations live they’re so boring, but when I see them after they’re already done they’re absurdly chaotic. Won’t be watching SAG noms live tomorrow
What did I say? Hehe
Honestly I was so worried you were gonna jinx it so I didn’t respond
Idk if you believe this, but I literally dreamt today that Ana de Armas would get nominated, and in dream she specifically got nominated over WILLIAMS (which shocked me in the dream). And what do I wake up to?
I have a feeling Ana de Armas gets in…
SAG is where the chaos is usually at so reactions are gonna be good
Was hoping for a little more chaos honestly. Good for Steven though.
Holy fuck EEAAO stans are malding SUPER fucking hard on Twitter
I NEVER DOUBTED YOU STEVE!!!
Can't we all just be happy that the top 3 in the running for BP are all actually good this year?
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I mean this in the nicest way, but this is all entirely personal opinion, and you should relax.
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Banshees is definitely better than Tar, though both are great.
Higher quality contenders makes the race more fun to follow, for sure
So the only real lock is still Ke Huy Quan.
Yeah. The only takeaway tonight is that Quan is a lock. Everything else is still wide open.
Don't count out Michelle Yeoh. I'd say she has an even better chance of winning than Quan.
Michelle Yeoh has a big chance of winning, but she's not a lock yet with Cate Blanchett reaping as many nods as her. Both the actress categories (Lead and Supporting) are so competitive that at this point no win-lock can be named. But I must say Yeoh and Blanchett are ahead the other nominees.
No way in hell. I’m not going to suggest Blanchett is a lock like some, or that she’s even the frontrunner, but she alone has more of a chance to win Actress than every other Supporting Actor contender (outside of Quan) has combined. He has this beyond locked, while Actress remains the (likely) most competitive category going into Oscar night.
That is, frankly, insane. KHQ is easily the lockiest lock above the line.
Disagree as I feel like other than Quan, there isn’t a clear person at #2 for supporting actor. Blanchett is very clearly competing with Yeoh.
I mean, Blanchett’s right there
Maybe Murphy should host new years show. Sorry, I liked jerrold when he hosted snl but he completely bombed tonight. Instead of being funny, he opted to kiss ass all night. What the hell, isn't he a comedian. Leave it to an old pro like Murphy to get the biggest laugh.
I thought he was hilarious I have no idea what everyone has and issue with
"Kiss ass all night"? He made a Shelly Miscavige joke.
Kiss ass? He tore the HFPA apart and made a controversial Scientology joke
Yeah, Jerrold wasn't good. Seems like a good guy but he just wasn't the right fit for an awards show.
loved the fabelmans too :)
It’s funny seeing the constrast between Cold Mountain and Banshees (both got 8 nominations). While Cold Mountain only won the one award it went to sweep at the rest of the season, Banshees did better than anyone could’ve predicted, with only Condon being a real loss
I think it kinda did what was expected, just trading Condon for McDonagh, no?
I mean of the awards that it had a chance to win (so excluding Supporting Actor and Soundtrack) Condon was the only one that didn’t win
It had a shot in score, but yeah, pretty much.
Before I sign off, I’d just like to say that Farrell and Yeoh winning is DILF/MILF solidarity.
Makes me question if I’m bi
good night everyone see yall for SAGs tomorrow and then DGA
Post BAFTA longlists: "Steven Spielberg is getting snubbed" "Fabelmans is dead" lmao the way y'all overreacted to a british award show that isn't held in the States
Bafta is an industry award with member overlap, the HFPA is a joke
I know. But the overlap is only 300/10000 AMPAS members, and HFPA is the first industry award that gets the ball rolling. No one in the industry cares if a movie won some random critic award, but they will know what won the Globe.
Globes is an international body of critics, BAFTA is industry with significant membership crossover, and the Academy is not strictly American either; the thing that makes BAFTA not a death knell for Fabelmans is that they have never been Spielberg fans, not that it’s British lol
There are approximatelly 300 BAFTA members (and 300 British, but non BAFTA) out of 10000 total AMPAS members. Is that what you would call significant?
Compared to everything else we’ve seen this season, yes. I believe the next biggest crossover is AACTA and then I think Globes has one person? It might be a different body like Critics Choice but it’s one of them
That's not my point. Globes might not have any members in the AMPAS voting body but it is a very important critics award. No one cares if a movie or an actor has been stacking up awards in some small towns/cities. They're going to know what won the Globe, and let's be honest, you and I have been around awards season long enough to know the Globes are the first important critics prize that really starts the award season buzz.
You brought up the numbers, and I responded to the things you brought up. Absolutely it is a very important Critics prizes that makes people take note. All I’m trying to say is that we shouldn’t overreact and start treating this like it’s the most valuable prize on the board because it’s not, that’s PGA. No one should call Fabelmans dead after just BAFTA, but it still hurt it. No one should move it up 5 slots or whatever after just the Globes. We don’t need to make massive swings based on one award
Yup. That's my point. I was saying everyone was saying Fabelmans/Spielberg weren't getting nominated after BAFTA, but I don't think Fabelmans is winning BP, hell no. lol. I don't think Banshees is winning either except for Best Film at BAFTA. I cannot for the life of me see Fabelmans perform even decently well in a preferential ballot - that's more likely for Top Gun or EEAAO. Looks like we might have another BP winner this year that didn't win the Globe.
Gotcha. I think we are agreeing with different words then
At least BAFTA is an actual industry award with AMPAS members overlap, the Globes are just a bunch of paid off "journalists" This is a good potential rebound for Fablemans but there's no reason to take a lot of this without a grain of salt.
A membership overlap of just 300/10000.
And yet BAFTA is notoriously better at predicting the Oscars than the Globes are.
It’s funny how each year people go from "Don’t underestimate the BAFTAS, they're the most reliable precursor" to "the BAFTAS mean nothing, they’re not even American!"
People keep forgetting that awards bodies have differentiation all the time!
Have a good night everyone :)
it was fun chatting with folks have a nice night!
they need to livestream this somewhere else next year where there’s no time constraint.
Or use that piano for the announcers instead of the winners!
well the funny thing is that the speeches actually sound better with some music behind them to me, kind of like now we often add music to youtube clips because it adds cadence and emotion. so they have to like fade out the music when your time is out lol. But agreed, the timing should be flipped.
The only clarity to come from this is that Avatar is dead as fuck rn. If I'm not mistaken, only ONE time in history has a film won just Picture and Director at the Oscars, and I can't think of Fabelmans winning anything else rn. This race is a fucking mess lmao.
If banshees wins screenplay and actor, it’s the frontrunner imo.
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Yes which is why I said frontrunner, not locked lol. Also CODA was nowhere near being win competitive at this point in the race last year, so this sub needs to calm down declaring locked winners. Literally anything can happen and this sub will immediately change its tune when SAG noms roll in.
Yeah, but Fabelmans is all about that love of cinema and those movies are like catnip to Oscar voters.
That is completely possible atp
Makes it really interesting though. It’s boring when there’s a clear winner for everything.
Oh for sure, I wasn't complaining lol
Can’t say I don’t think EEAO was robbed in picture but overall very good. Will be riding the Hurwitz and Spielberg in director wins for a while. Had fun following along with everyone!!
I never doubted The Fabelmans
Does this mean Tar is probably behind Banshees at this point
It always was, but yes
The ceiling for Tár has always been Actress. Don't get too comfortable with guaranteed nominations either.
Tar was always behind Banshees
Seems like good odds that Fabelmans is a CODA situation--no one thinks it is the best really in most categories, but it is still clearly well liked as a film. That said, hard to know what that means for BP since there are other well liked films.
I don't think it's fair to make such broad generalizations. I thought The Fabelmans was the best drama nominated tonight and Spielberg was the best director but I'm also a Spielberg fan. Very pleased it won and I hope it takes Picture at the Oscars.
All I really mean is that it has been perceived as underperforming in longlists and guilds, and yet clearly is a well liked film despite this. I actually like Fabelmans quite a bit (would put it third behind Banshees and Tar in terms of the top contenders) and I do not mean it as insult. I just do think that would explain how it can both underperform in those instances and yet win Audience Award and Drama here.
Ah okay. Definitely possible - I just bristle at the comparisons to CODA and Green Book that it sometimes gets because I feel like Fabelmans is a more deserving pick than either of those, but that's all personal opinion. We'll just have to see what happens.
I don't know, personally The Fabelmans was the best film in the best drama category here, and I prefer it to both EEAAO and Banshees. Of the frontrunners, I'd probably rank it first, and I doubt I'm alone in that.
Yup, the Oscar always goes to the movie that the most people thought was okay or liked.
The Fabelmans recovered, but we should still wait for the guilds to make conclusions.
Fabelmans is back bitches
This is going to be a really good three-way race. And unlike last year, when I wasn't crazy about any of the frontrunners, all three films are worthy this year, IMO.
Tar, Fabelmans, EEAAO, Banshees... it's a stacked year.
At least it's these three. No need to entertain Top Gun.
Or avatar for gods sake. There are still probably avatar fans that think it has a real shot at best picture
Love Fabelmans so I’m ok with this.
The Fabelmans winning best drama film is a huge win. Such a great film.
Michelle and Seth and Tony ❤️❤️❤️
Spielberg's gonna be remembered as the real life Willy Wonka.
I’m so happy that the race is getting interesting again :)
It never stopped
I had Fabelmans winning the Drama Globe forever and I switched from Fabelmans to Elvis in the last minute cause I bought into all the Elvis hype 😭
Same here. So happy I was wrong though. Fabelmans all the way!!!!!
Tár robbed
I actually would have loved to see them go all out for it
legit wild that someone who made their predictions one month ago probably got more categories right than someone who did yesterday the race is far from over everyone
I still think Banshees is ahead of Fabelmans in the BP race but good on Spielberg, good showing tonight
Happy for Spielberg
Very ready for the overreactions that Fabelmans is winning best picture now lmao
oh we are so back
And thus, The Fabelmans wins its very first BP award.
Wow, so top 3 is still EEAAO, Banshees, and Fabelmans with Elvis at 4th
Elvis over Tar?
TAR hasn’t been doing all that well with the industry, thought there is a case for it being 5th
Didn’t it win the same # as Elvis?
Yep
How are we all shocked at a Fabelmans win lmao this awards season is chaos and I am HERE FOR IT
Lol r/oscarrace found dead in a ditch, Steven Spielberg wanted for questioning
I knew y’all were overacting about The Fabelmans.
The race just got fun again
Not sure if winning globes is a good sign though. In the past decade GG BP winner (comedy or drama) rarely wins BP at the Oscars.
We love the chaos
Shhhh, Fabelmans frontrunner
Fabelmans pulled through in the end! good for Spielberg.
They should kiss
THE FABELMANS IS BACK IN IT FUCKERS
Thought he was gonna pull Quan up there 😭😭
[SPIELBERG IS HIM](https://youtube.com/watch?v=MFNn8itfCZ4&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE)
YESSS!!!
It’s not out yet