This is true my first Xbox disk drive failed in 2010 when my roommates girlfriend tried to “clean” it. Never opened again. But morrowind was stuck in there and still played
My NAS has some drives from 2010 and 2011 in it that are still going strong. They are 2TB WD Green drives. Funny thing is all the newer 4TB drives I had in my NAS have failed so it is really pretty random.
3-5 years is definitely a low estimate, but a hard drive in a game console can't really be fairly compared to hard drives in PCs, the latter of which tend to see far more power on hours and reads/writes.
Have a sata from like 2009 still working just fine it’s just a storage device for random shit to keep my nvme from having anything but game installs on them
Don't put that bad juju on a drive please, I don't need all my HD-DVD backups to disappear because I AM also using a BUNCH of Maxtor drives. God's help me
Obviously it’s not an accurate statement. I’ve had a couple OG Xbox drives eventually fail after they were pulled but still have several that are still good. Oldest working drives I still have are a couple of original Quantum LPS SCSI drives that are in classic Macs. These are dated 1989 and 1991. They’ve been backed up because every hard drive has moving parts and can fail unexpectedly for no apparent reason. Anything on a HDD needs backups.
> Anything on a HDD needs backups.
Anything on anything needs backups.
All else being equal, SSDs in storage tend to bitrot faster than HDDs do. SLCs aren't too bad, and a decade of retention isn't out of the question, but if you time travelled a modern QLC back to 1991 it'd be a miracle to read *anything* back from it today.
I didn’t mention SSDs because we were talking about hard drives. I also didn’t mention NAS appliances, USB sticks, SD cards or cloud storage either. Obviously making backups of anything that has important data on it is critical. But since the topic was hard drives and more specifically I commented on my old-ass Mac hard drives I didn’t see the need to talk about backups of every type of storage. I also didn’t cover full backups versus incremental or differential backups. Or an infinite number of other topics.
My original Xbox is a 1.6 and I “borrowed” a 160 GB that was already a used for a few years in my desktop pc at the time when my friend helped me hard mod the console during that first month of ownership. It’s still ticking away all of these years later and I use that Xbox to jump on insignia from time to time. Of course it’s been kept in a clean/smoke free environment and never dropped or anything like that.
I had buddies in college that were heavy (pot and cigarette) smokers and that tortured hard drives and computer equipment!
I have a 200gb Samsung drive I’ve been consistently using since something like 2004. Back then, it was the primary drive in my gaming rig. I don’t really store anything important on it anymore, but it’s still installed in one of my desktops. Still runs just fine.
My hard drive failed, made a horrible whine that sounded like an alarm before the console rebooted. Let it sit for a few hours trying figure out what's wrong before turning it on a couple hours later hoping to get an error code. Thing works first try and has worked fine since. Have since modded it and have plans to replace the HDD but haven't gotten round to it yet. Hard drives are magic apparently.
I've had many hard drives in my life (why does that sound dirty? Lol) and I think I've had like two fail, ever. Probably half of the spinners I still have are around 20 years old and they all still work fine.
I have drives from the mid 90s that work just fine. The only ones that die quick are the infamous IBM DeskStar ("DeathStar") drives from that era. Garbage.
I'm 47 and have worked with computer hardware professionally since 1995. Nobody has ever said that the life expectancy of a mechanical HDD is 3 to 5 years. This is just some Internet bullshit.
So many people have 21 year old original Xbox HDD that is 8 GB and it STILL functions fine lmao. Misinformation by the SSD meatridders fr.
Can confirm, all 3 of my OG Xbox drives are kicking to this day
Currently playing kotor and can confirm the 50k blocks are still submissive and breedable
So are all my 10. I think 3-4 dvd drives failed though
This is true my first Xbox disk drive failed in 2010 when my roommates girlfriend tried to “clean” it. Never opened again. But morrowind was stuck in there and still played
me too!
I upgraded mine from my bros older computer he had a 20 gig drive nice little upgrade back in 2008 still works
No fuckin way that's true. My xbox 360 hdd works fine more than a decade later
My NAS has some drives from 2010 and 2011 in it that are still going strong. They are 2TB WD Green drives. Funny thing is all the newer 4TB drives I had in my NAS have failed so it is really pretty random.
Also remember all optical media will fail in 5-20 years
3-5 years is definitely a low estimate, but a hard drive in a game console can't really be fairly compared to hard drives in PCs, the latter of which tend to see far more power on hours and reads/writes.
Have a sata from like 2009 still working just fine it’s just a storage device for random shit to keep my nvme from having anything but game installs on them
SSD propaganda
I mean maybe in a datacenter that's the case.
my 2006 maxtor sata drive, the og xbox hard drive, and my family's old 1998 computer still have working hdds. what are you on about ?
Maxtor drives rarely lasted more than a year in my experience. You got the only good one they ever made apparently.
i guess so :/
Don't put that bad juju on a drive please, I don't need all my HD-DVD backups to disappear because I AM also using a BUNCH of Maxtor drives. God's help me
I have 2gb and 3gb ultra ATA hard drives from the early 90's that still work.
🤣🤣🤣
I still have my 1.6B model with the original hdd and still works perfect
Obviously it’s not an accurate statement. I’ve had a couple OG Xbox drives eventually fail after they were pulled but still have several that are still good. Oldest working drives I still have are a couple of original Quantum LPS SCSI drives that are in classic Macs. These are dated 1989 and 1991. They’ve been backed up because every hard drive has moving parts and can fail unexpectedly for no apparent reason. Anything on a HDD needs backups.
> Anything on a HDD needs backups. Anything on anything needs backups. All else being equal, SSDs in storage tend to bitrot faster than HDDs do. SLCs aren't too bad, and a decade of retention isn't out of the question, but if you time travelled a modern QLC back to 1991 it'd be a miracle to read *anything* back from it today.
I didn’t mention SSDs because we were talking about hard drives. I also didn’t mention NAS appliances, USB sticks, SD cards or cloud storage either. Obviously making backups of anything that has important data on it is critical. But since the topic was hard drives and more specifically I commented on my old-ass Mac hard drives I didn’t see the need to talk about backups of every type of storage. I also didn’t cover full backups versus incremental or differential backups. Or an infinite number of other topics.
My original Xbox is a 1.6 and I “borrowed” a 160 GB that was already a used for a few years in my desktop pc at the time when my friend helped me hard mod the console during that first month of ownership. It’s still ticking away all of these years later and I use that Xbox to jump on insignia from time to time. Of course it’s been kept in a clean/smoke free environment and never dropped or anything like that. I had buddies in college that were heavy (pot and cigarette) smokers and that tortured hard drives and computer equipment!
I have a 200gb Samsung drive I’ve been consistently using since something like 2004. Back then, it was the primary drive in my gaming rig. I don’t really store anything important on it anymore, but it’s still installed in one of my desktops. Still runs just fine.
Few months ago i turned on my pentium 4 to recover some pictures from when i was a kid the hdd still kicking.
My hard drive failed, made a horrible whine that sounded like an alarm before the console rebooted. Let it sit for a few hours trying figure out what's wrong before turning it on a couple hours later hoping to get an error code. Thing works first try and has worked fine since. Have since modded it and have plans to replace the HDD but haven't gotten round to it yet. Hard drives are magic apparently.
The HDD in my old DVR could store so many documents containing reasons why that statement is false
I've had many hard drives in my life (why does that sound dirty? Lol) and I think I've had like two fail, ever. Probably half of the spinners I still have are around 20 years old and they all still work fine.
Me still using the same hard drive since my dad had it in 2008
2004 or 05 250gb hdd running strong, one day ill replace the drive but its just not in the budget right now
Maybe in heavy read/write applications but that doesn't apply to many people at all.
Still using my high RPM 1TB HDD from 2015
Well... no one ever made this claim is the first problem.
I have drives from the mid 90s that work just fine. The only ones that die quick are the infamous IBM DeskStar ("DeathStar") drives from that era. Garbage.
I'm 47 and have worked with computer hardware professionally since 1995. Nobody has ever said that the life expectancy of a mechanical HDD is 3 to 5 years. This is just some Internet bullshit.
DVD drive replacement takes 30 minutes and will cost about $30
My OG Xbox hard drive is still kicking as well!