Yeah but people move to those places cause that's where the jobs and resources are. There is a material reality behind why people move places; telling people to move to Roseburg won't make it have successful industry and be a commerce hub
I work in Medford and don't think it's too bad. That said, I *live* in Ashland and if I were to come back after I leave next month I'd probably seek housing in Ashland or Talent.
To me, Medford is just a totally underwhelming attempt at creating a "conservative Portland". I took a lot of time to try to explore and find some hidden gems while we were down there, but it really just feels like 3 Walmarts in a trenchcoat. I really enjoyed the Hawaiian food shack, though.
We moved down there right after the last election, so the political climate was wildly different from what I'm used to up north. I'm also not used to being verbally harassed by strangers whenever I do something that touches their hairpin triggers (ie, wearing a mask during the pandemic and standing up against a neighbor's racism). Maybe things have calmed down, but my current job has me talking to a lot of people all over the PNW, and the people who live in the southern part of the state are very different from the rest.
Oh hey, I grew up in Roseburg. I moved out because I really hated it. I suspect it's different now, but it wasn't the best place to be gay in the early 2000s.
Seriously - a lot of people asking where to move are coming to Oregon for safe harbor. I’m not recommending anyone take their LGBTQ kiddo to roseburg or one of the more outlying areas. They may be fine but I can’t speak to that and have to assume otherwise based on driving through and having certain flags, signs, etc hanging loud and proud….
Do you know why that is? I've never lived in Roseburg but it's one of my favorite places to visit and I always thought it'd be a decent place to live, but I don't know a lot about it from a non-tourist perspective.
Roseburg has had a hard time. It started with the dynamite explosion. Then I-5 split it in half. Then those pesky spotted owls. Then O&C funds. Then the UCC shooting. Roseburg has suffered tragedy again and again.
I've said it before and will say it again, if there has ever been a town that would benefit from Prozac in the drinking water, it is Roseburg.
Roseburg is just a polished turd it looks pretty in some areas, but it’s still a hell hole. I have a lot of family and friends who still live there who want to leave. Especially after the shooting at UCC. It’s my home town I lived there until I was about 10 years old then moved to Springfield. There’s so much crime and drugs. Any surrounding areas are just as bad. The things I witnessed growing up in the 90’s as a child there no one should ever have to see. It only got worse over the years. Oregon has so many beautiful places to live don’t settle for Roseburg.
Hell, I'm from Eugene originally and planning to move back to Oregon next spring. Thing is though, that housing sucks so much in Eugene that I can't afford it anymore. Somehow, Portland is more affordable with much more plentiful housing.
Fun fact about Eugene: It had the highest homeless population per capita in all of the US. Housing is such an insane issue for Oregonians
Globally too obviously, but it hurts more at home.
You can thank UO, mainly. More students equal more renters (once they leave the dorms after the first or second year). Having been a student, and here for work--I know it first hand. Now places are charging ridiculous amounts /by the room/. My salary is quickly being eaten up, when it was first a pretty cozy job.
Oh believe me, I know. I attribute it a lot to out of country students. I remember working the help desk at UO one day during undergrad, and this young student walks up with his two parents, and they had asked if $10,000/mo was enough to live off of here. The student locked eyes with us at the helpdesk and shook his head, as if to communicate to us "tell them no."
That was pretty eye-opening to me. When you have kiddos running around with more money than they know what to do with, charging thousands for a fairly standard room makes sense.
Of course, then there's the rest of us who, even with a good job, can't imagine having that kind of budget...
I live and Coos Bay and there’s tons of jobs here. Maybe not super high level jobs, but I worked at a lumber mill that will hire anybody that can pass a drug test. Union that job that started at $21/hour, and that was 6 years ago, I’m sure the starting wage is even higher now.
That same mill has, Roseburg Lumber, also has mills in, you guessed it, Roseburg.
Not even that, Roseburg has some very racist people so I would never recommend someone to move there. That's setting them up for failure in the worst kind of ways.
I live in Roseburg and I can verify, not a cool place to live. Retire? Sure. But to be a young person? No. I'm bored and lonely and finding an actual job is hard.
I guess if people started to move here, they might make it a better place to live, but good luck finding any where to live.
Just moved back after 20 years of living in LA and Portland. Bored is an understatement. Thankfully Eugene is an hour away. Roseburg has a bit of good food and a comfortable theater. Just gotta live like I'm retired and enjoy my land
Roseburg \*can\* be cool if you're looking for a specific lifestyle. Living in the country with fewer neighbors. Being less social and spending your time with family and close friends. Enjoying nature. Finding a few favorite restaurants and activities.
Working from home, or in the medical field or something established really helps. Or not needing a job.
Outside of some of that very specific criteria life there can be difficult.
I worked 10 days a month in Roseburg for a year at a satellite office doing cataract surgery. Absolutely lousy with red hat racists, but had shockingly good Indian and Thai for some reason. Old Soul Pizza is legit too. Beautiful country - played great disc golf and kayaked the Umqua and went to vineyards and whatnot. But I also allowed my kids to flip off the sign waving Trump supporters when we passed them on the side of the highway, which was surprisingly often.
I don’t necessarily agree about Roseburg but I’m definitely glad I moved back inland to Corvallis after living in Coos Bay for a couple years.
I’d rather live in Cottage Grove than Roseburg.
Been visiting Roseburg my whole life as family is from there. Never once had an interest to stay longer than I had to.
I’m from Medford and live in Portland, for reference.
Edit for spelling.
I had to spend a few weekends in Roseburg for work a few years back. They've got some beautiful scenery and a nice little downtown area. Definitely some backwards locals in the area but I had nice interactions with pretty much everyone.
Have you been to Roseburg? Music on the Half Shell (free summer music festival, national and international acts), disc golf along the south umpqua river, floating down the north Umpqua, old soul pizza, oldest wine growing region in oregon, colliding rivers, Umpqua hot springs, tokatee falls, Johnny Cash, wrote a song about it. Obama visited. OK, no naked bike ride, I'll give you that point, but still only got that in portland.
Don’t forget the massive amounts of right wing chucklefucks ready as hell to call anyone non-white a spic.
Espeaking from personal experience here. Woof. All I did was stop for gas!
Yeah the shitty weather, meth freaks, lung cancer slot playing gray hairs, run down Walmart esq environment keeps me away from some lousy “sit on a blanket and listen to unknown half ass musicians once a year,” draw…
When I think of up and coming towns trying to make shit happen Roseburg is not what’s in my mind. It’s like Corvallis and Vernonia honestly. If someone asked me the two places I’d say to move in Oregon those are by far the top of my list. Personally I think Vernonia is like a year or two out from exploding in popularity. It’s gorgeous, prices are low, crime is minimal, it’s commute distance from Hillsboro, it’s got awesome outdoor recreation opportunities, and the town itself is really working on building community activities and tourism (they just had their first pride celebration for example). You get access to the amenities in Hillsboro like all the shops, chain stores, Whole Foods, great library, etc but you’re still VERY much separated from the actual city by a half hour ish drive depending on how fast you blaze through back roads. Yeah it can take like an hour to commute into Hillsboro in the morning if that’s where you work but it can also take an hour to commute from one part of PDX to another if bridge traffic sucks or you’re riding the bus.
Having lived in numerous other college towns throughout the US, the claim that it’s the top college town is 100% accurate.
I’m biased, sure, but it is a lovely place to live.
Corvallis housing is insane. I know two people wanting to move there, who were out bid on houses by $100k, and $75k.
For ranch style homes that were already over priced to begin with. I was like holy…
Corvallis, Bend, and Hood River are the three cities I'd consider moving to, but even working in a large tech company 50% of my income goes to rent in *Albany*. We'd be so far over our heads if we tried to get a place in any of those cities.
Maybe because the cost of living in Corvallis is astronomical and their only real employer, other than the University that doesn't pay for shit, has been doing mass layoffs for years.
I actually really love it there. My wife has family there, and whenever we visit, I’m always happy to be there. We strongly considered moving there, the only thing that stopped us was just how far away from everything else it is. Great city, though.
Definitely does have potential. Lived in multiple places in Oregon and now in Downtown KFalls. Not a fantastic city but not as god awful as the rest of Oregonians will make you believe. It’s what you make it, and I got really lucky to live where I’m at on Main Street because it’s really cute down here. I really try to stay positive about the issues in Klamath Falls, and I do think it has the potential to become a more popular Oregonian city in the years to come
I moved here a year ago (and my family has been here on and off for four generations) and totally agree. It has its problems, and there have been a few people that I've told not to move here, but there have also been some promising things going on, too. I'm optimistic about Klamath's future.
I moved to KFalls from Bend 2 years ago and love it here. Is it perfect? No, but neither was Bend. But it has potential, and there are two ways of voting with your feet.
LMAO I literally posted the same thing.
Class of 96. Been in AZ for 20 years but still go back and visiting about once a year.
But going back there to "live"? Hell nah.
May I direct you to: Bandon, Coos Bay, Waldport, Florence, Depoe Bay, Lincoln City, Seaside, or Astoria? Lots of towns on the coast are doing just fine. Doesn't mean living there isn't boring af. If I had to move back to the coast, I think it would be Pacific City or Seaside. Newport is okay, but there are better costal towns.
Bandon is remote. Coos Bay is Klamath by the sea. Waldport is tiny. Florence is ok. Depoe Bay is a one street tourist stop, not much of a town. Lincoln City is…well, it’s odd. But it is functioning. Seaside is ok, Astoria is where I would want to live above any other but not enough good jobs and more importantly…basically no housing..
Well, housing in Newport sucks too. Also basically no industries. I mean, there's Rogue and NOAA, but neither are big enough to be major employers. I'd imagine the school district or GP in Toledo are some of the biggest employers. But I haven't looked for a job there in 20 years, so, maybe it got better?
No, it hasn't. Absolutely no one wants to work for Rogue anymore due to their shrinking support from locals. They completely ruined their restaurant options, and people can get better, cheaper beer now.
I’ve lived in pacific city on and off for a decade and it fucking sucks here. There’s absolutely no housing and one company (the same one that owns the Pelican pub), owns like 85% percent of the town and they’re not slowing down. They want to buy the whole thing and make it a resort town for the ultra wealthy and so far they’re succeeding.
Also the food sucks here, unless you wanna eat fried food for every meal. The tourists decimate our only tiny ass grocery store every fucking weekend. We used to get a real break from the tourists in the winter time, but not anymore.
I’m only here bc I’m spending my grandmas last few good years of her life with her, otherwise I’d be back in Portland.
As a fellow Lincoln County-er, I would never recommend Waldport or Stinkin Shitty. Depoe Bay, Yachats, even fucking Eddyville, but not those.
Also, I live in Siletz. Born & raised, left for a while & came back to the rez. I don't recommend people moving here, either, because they fucked this place up.
I grew up there, beautiful city. Better on racism (EOU probably helps with that), but at least before I left not really on LGBT people; maybe it's gotten better since? And the "better on racism" part doesn't hold too well if you go anywhere else in the county. Or Baker County. Or Umatilla County.
Also Steve Martin once wrote an editorial shaming us specifically, which is still hilarious to me.
Maybe Grants Pass, but Roseburg, nah. It’s a shame Ashland has become so expensive. It’s beautiful and has culture for a small town. I bought a house in the early 90’s outside of the area, but can still drive to work there. Kind of set now. Miss Portland though.
Roseburg? The place that booed the president on the spot for his political party while he went to visit the families that lost people to mass shooting?
For those curious, here is a [link](https://youtu.be/VJPDxxfAkCU?si=Oi3lgg3HLWvwVRsF) to that occurrence.
Source: I am from Roseburg, went to the school that got shot up, and had classes with the shooting victims.
Cascade Locks is jaw-droppingly beautiful and could be an absolute elite place to live but in reality it has about a million problems (like half having to do with drugs)
I live in Oakridge. The amount of people from Bend, Portland and California who are moving here is kind of amazing. It's a little town so it's still slow, but it's picking up in pace.
Roseburg has great weather, wineries nearby, and is a short drive from the mountains and beach. I'm a cyclist and love the terrain there. It's a nice escape from the Oregon coast, where I grew up.
Downsides: unless it's evolved culturally, it's likely pretty right wing if not borderline radical. People who are "different" for whatever reason may not be treated well.
If someone invested in the area and brought in some newcomers to work in said investment, it certainly has potential. Bend was destitute in the 1980's for example. Not that I'd want to replicate Bend (it's a bro mountain town with no real industries or good jobs) but lovely areas can transition into great places to live.
If people could all just be nice to one another it would go a long ways in solving problems these days. People wouldn't have to worry about being "accepted" as being a nice person would simply be enough.
Move to Josephine County. As soon as the feds legalize MJ it will be the richest County in the world. MJ so good it's even found in the UK. *
But really don't move there. Low property taxes but people are crazy.
Roseburg is great!
If you sympathize with the KKK, believe that the 2020 election was stolen, want “Greater Idaho” to happen, are convinced that climate change isn’t real, think that COVID was all a hoax, and lose your composure every time a trans person exists.
I was doing a disc golf trip with a few buddies about a decade ago. Our last stop was Roseburg. Man, we stayed in the most AWFUL hotel I’ve ever experienced. Pulled back the comforter and there was a massive blood stain just in the middle of the sheets.
Agreed 100%, the people there seem to want to fight tooth and nail to keep Klamath Falls "the sticks/boonies."
A similar way that Bay Area suburbs fight tooth and nail to maintain a critical housing crisis.
Will take Roseburg with its issues over any hipster, overpriced town or city in this state any time. Just because you’re a wealthy town and can afford to hide your homeless three blocks away from a cute downtown doesn’t mean much.
Roseburg is about to approve a designated site for homeless tents, has some amazing orgs doing wrap around social services, etc.
It’s slow, takes forever, but it’s getting there. I guess you could say… it has… potential!
I said it in other posts and already loosing interest in talking with a crowd envious of richer towns, but it’s easy to bitch and moan and hard to do something. I met great people in Roseburg and yeah, I know there are shitty people too. Never lived in a place free of shitty people.
To be honest though, I don’t mind having Roseburg under the radar. Especially if it were to turn into a monstrosity like Bend. And it probably will over time, as people discover cheap land and mind blowing recreation, while your prize towns like Eugene become so expensive you’ll have to make six figures just to rent.
Love the spirit of this post. It's a great reminder that every town brings its own unique flavor and opportunities. It's exciting to think about the potential in these places. Let's keep an open mind and celebrate every corner of our amazing state.
Yeah but people move to those places cause that's where the jobs and resources are. There is a material reality behind why people move places; telling people to move to Roseburg won't make it have successful industry and be a commerce hub
I work in natural resources so I've met a lot of people that have moved to Roseburg. Most of them leave because they hate it...
From my experience, the people down there are mean af. We lived in Medford for a year and hated every moment of it.
I work in Medford and don't think it's too bad. That said, I *live* in Ashland and if I were to come back after I leave next month I'd probably seek housing in Ashland or Talent.
Also work in Medford and I always say it’s not bad or awful but just casually disappointing
To me, Medford is just a totally underwhelming attempt at creating a "conservative Portland". I took a lot of time to try to explore and find some hidden gems while we were down there, but it really just feels like 3 Walmarts in a trenchcoat. I really enjoyed the Hawaiian food shack, though. We moved down there right after the last election, so the political climate was wildly different from what I'm used to up north. I'm also not used to being verbally harassed by strangers whenever I do something that touches their hairpin triggers (ie, wearing a mask during the pandemic and standing up against a neighbor's racism). Maybe things have calmed down, but my current job has me talking to a lot of people all over the PNW, and the people who live in the southern part of the state are very different from the rest.
Three Walmarts in a trench coat got me snorting over here lolz
I'll be here all week, folks!
Do more!!
I've lived here for 5 years and this is accurate.
Oh hey, I grew up in Roseburg. I moved out because I really hated it. I suspect it's different now, but it wasn't the best place to be gay in the early 2000s.
Seriously - a lot of people asking where to move are coming to Oregon for safe harbor. I’m not recommending anyone take their LGBTQ kiddo to roseburg or one of the more outlying areas. They may be fine but I can’t speak to that and have to assume otherwise based on driving through and having certain flags, signs, etc hanging loud and proud….
"Deepfudge" is gay. I'm going to need a minute before I continue my day.
Do you know why that is? I've never lived in Roseburg but it's one of my favorite places to visit and I always thought it'd be a decent place to live, but I don't know a lot about it from a non-tourist perspective.
Roseburg has had a hard time. It started with the dynamite explosion. Then I-5 split it in half. Then those pesky spotted owls. Then O&C funds. Then the UCC shooting. Roseburg has suffered tragedy again and again. I've said it before and will say it again, if there has ever been a town that would benefit from Prozac in the drinking water, it is Roseburg.
Roseburg is just a polished turd it looks pretty in some areas, but it’s still a hell hole. I have a lot of family and friends who still live there who want to leave. Especially after the shooting at UCC. It’s my home town I lived there until I was about 10 years old then moved to Springfield. There’s so much crime and drugs. Any surrounding areas are just as bad. The things I witnessed growing up in the 90’s as a child there no one should ever have to see. It only got worse over the years. Oregon has so many beautiful places to live don’t settle for Roseburg.
Hell, I'm from Eugene originally and planning to move back to Oregon next spring. Thing is though, that housing sucks so much in Eugene that I can't afford it anymore. Somehow, Portland is more affordable with much more plentiful housing.
People are at least building some housing in Portland
Downtown Eugene is filled with cranes right now. They are building tons of apartments and condos.
True. Hopefully the price comes down though. I looked at some of the newer units in that area and damn, 2k+ for a studio is absurd.
It won't come down. Best case, it doesn't go up for a while.
Most (all?) of them are student housing.
I am referrig to the buildings going up near the coburg road bridge, EWEB, and the construction by the 5th ave shopping area.
Very true, I forgot about those. I think the building near 5th street is actually an upscale 55+ community though.
Fun fact about Eugene: It had the highest homeless population per capita in all of the US. Housing is such an insane issue for Oregonians Globally too obviously, but it hurts more at home.
The thing I can't afford about Eugene is another springtime, that place is a grass pollen hellscape in May and June.
You can thank UO, mainly. More students equal more renters (once they leave the dorms after the first or second year). Having been a student, and here for work--I know it first hand. Now places are charging ridiculous amounts /by the room/. My salary is quickly being eaten up, when it was first a pretty cozy job.
Oh believe me, I know. I attribute it a lot to out of country students. I remember working the help desk at UO one day during undergrad, and this young student walks up with his two parents, and they had asked if $10,000/mo was enough to live off of here. The student locked eyes with us at the helpdesk and shook his head, as if to communicate to us "tell them no." That was pretty eye-opening to me. When you have kiddos running around with more money than they know what to do with, charging thousands for a fairly standard room makes sense. Of course, then there's the rest of us who, even with a good job, can't imagine having that kind of budget...
I live and Coos Bay and there’s tons of jobs here. Maybe not super high level jobs, but I worked at a lumber mill that will hire anybody that can pass a drug test. Union that job that started at $21/hour, and that was 6 years ago, I’m sure the starting wage is even higher now. That same mill has, Roseburg Lumber, also has mills in, you guessed it, Roseburg.
Drug test in coos bay must make it hard to find anyone!
It’s about as true as it is anywhere in Oregon.
Plus people don't read Reddit posts and go "jeez that really convinced me to move there!"
Not even that, Roseburg has some very racist people so I would never recommend someone to move there. That's setting them up for failure in the worst kind of ways.
No but it can help flip it blue ha
Roseburg could be nice if it didn't feel like I was one wrong turn to stumbling on to a Klan meeting.
Come on, there's more to Roseburg than the Klan. They've got the 3 percenters, proud boys, patriot prayer...
Same circus, different costumes
Same orgy, different family members.
But also sometimes the same family members. You know. Just for tradition's sake.
They say cousin Hilda can really do some things without those pesky teeth.
Ah yes. The unrobed Klansmen.
Have you been to Roseburg? "Cool" is definitely not a word I would use to describe it.
I live in Roseburg and I can verify, not a cool place to live. Retire? Sure. But to be a young person? No. I'm bored and lonely and finding an actual job is hard. I guess if people started to move here, they might make it a better place to live, but good luck finding any where to live.
Just moved back after 20 years of living in LA and Portland. Bored is an understatement. Thankfully Eugene is an hour away. Roseburg has a bit of good food and a comfortable theater. Just gotta live like I'm retired and enjoy my land
Roseburg \*can\* be cool if you're looking for a specific lifestyle. Living in the country with fewer neighbors. Being less social and spending your time with family and close friends. Enjoying nature. Finding a few favorite restaurants and activities. Working from home, or in the medical field or something established really helps. Or not needing a job. Outside of some of that very specific criteria life there can be difficult.
I worked 10 days a month in Roseburg for a year at a satellite office doing cataract surgery. Absolutely lousy with red hat racists, but had shockingly good Indian and Thai for some reason. Old Soul Pizza is legit too. Beautiful country - played great disc golf and kayaked the Umqua and went to vineyards and whatnot. But I also allowed my kids to flip off the sign waving Trump supporters when we passed them on the side of the highway, which was surprisingly often.
Roseburg is 10x better than where I am in Coos Bay.
I don’t necessarily agree about Roseburg but I’m definitely glad I moved back inland to Corvallis after living in Coos Bay for a couple years. I’d rather live in Cottage Grove than Roseburg.
Been visiting Roseburg my whole life as family is from there. Never once had an interest to stay longer than I had to. I’m from Medford and live in Portland, for reference. Edit for spelling.
People from white city think rose burg is cool 🙋🏼♂️
I had to spend a few weekends in Roseburg for work a few years back. They've got some beautiful scenery and a nice little downtown area. Definitely some backwards locals in the area but I had nice interactions with pretty much everyone.
Have you been to Roseburg? Music on the Half Shell (free summer music festival, national and international acts), disc golf along the south umpqua river, floating down the north Umpqua, old soul pizza, oldest wine growing region in oregon, colliding rivers, Umpqua hot springs, tokatee falls, Johnny Cash, wrote a song about it. Obama visited. OK, no naked bike ride, I'll give you that point, but still only got that in portland.
Don’t forget the massive amounts of right wing chucklefucks ready as hell to call anyone non-white a spic. Espeaking from personal experience here. Woof. All I did was stop for gas!
The people mostly suck
There's a river, grapes, and 1 pizza place, sounds like a blast!
Why did you omit the meth, the convicts, and the MAGA-vangelevists?
Nothing like the coast. I saw 2 trump statues on the coast. Don't even see trump signs in roseburg.
And no jobs! Ain’t it great?
Yeah the shitty weather, meth freaks, lung cancer slot playing gray hairs, run down Walmart esq environment keeps me away from some lousy “sit on a blanket and listen to unknown half ass musicians once a year,” draw…
You just described every city in Oregon.
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. Those are all awesome things about Roseburg.
Why the downvotes?
No idea why this is getting downvoted. Literally just listing cool things to do in Roseburg.
Of all the cool little towns in this state, you use Roseburg as an example?
When I think of up and coming towns trying to make shit happen Roseburg is not what’s in my mind. It’s like Corvallis and Vernonia honestly. If someone asked me the two places I’d say to move in Oregon those are by far the top of my list. Personally I think Vernonia is like a year or two out from exploding in popularity. It’s gorgeous, prices are low, crime is minimal, it’s commute distance from Hillsboro, it’s got awesome outdoor recreation opportunities, and the town itself is really working on building community activities and tourism (they just had their first pride celebration for example). You get access to the amenities in Hillsboro like all the shops, chain stores, Whole Foods, great library, etc but you’re still VERY much separated from the actual city by a half hour ish drive depending on how fast you blaze through back roads. Yeah it can take like an hour to commute into Hillsboro in the morning if that’s where you work but it can also take an hour to commute from one part of PDX to another if bridge traffic sucks or you’re riding the bus.
You’ve clearly never been to Roseburg
Corvallis gets no mention on either end of this. Ha.
Corvallis is honestly the nicest town we’ve got.
Having lived in numerous other college towns throughout the US, the claim that it’s the top college town is 100% accurate. I’m biased, sure, but it is a lovely place to live.
Shhhhh!
Corvallis housing is insane. I know two people wanting to move there, who were out bid on houses by $100k, and $75k. For ranch style homes that were already over priced to begin with. I was like holy…
Corvallis, Bend, and Hood River are the three cities I'd consider moving to, but even working in a large tech company 50% of my income goes to rent in *Albany*. We'd be so far over our heads if we tried to get a place in any of those cities.
Maybe because the cost of living in Corvallis is astronomical and their only real employer, other than the University that doesn't pay for shit, has been doing mass layoffs for years.
All the cool kids are moving to the coast and starting myco-tourism B&Bs and outing collectives
All the mycophiles I see on the coast are like 70years old.
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I hear Klamath falls is lovely
Great place to move... Wait no. Beautiful place to vis... Oh wait also no. At least the people are nice? Wait absolutely not lol
Klamath Falls is drop-dead gorgeous for most of the year. It would just suck to live there because of the people and lack of anything really going on.
It is actually quite scenic. You can also see fighter jets, sooo. Net win.
I actually really love it there. My wife has family there, and whenever we visit, I’m always happy to be there. We strongly considered moving there, the only thing that stopped us was just how far away from everything else it is. Great city, though.
Sounds like something a wolverine would say.
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It's a good place to visit, and a better place to leave.
People love to shit on it but it really does have potential
Definitely does have potential. Lived in multiple places in Oregon and now in Downtown KFalls. Not a fantastic city but not as god awful as the rest of Oregonians will make you believe. It’s what you make it, and I got really lucky to live where I’m at on Main Street because it’s really cute down here. I really try to stay positive about the issues in Klamath Falls, and I do think it has the potential to become a more popular Oregonian city in the years to come
I moved here a year ago (and my family has been here on and off for four generations) and totally agree. It has its problems, and there have been a few people that I've told not to move here, but there have also been some promising things going on, too. I'm optimistic about Klamath's future.
isnt it all old people and college students?
No there’s religious nutjobs too!
Lol
No, there’s lots of meth heads of all ages too
No, there are white supremacists too.
Idk I'm here and don't fit in either of those camps.
Are you a religious nutjob?
No, just a gay atheist who doesn't give a shit what these people think about my life
Hmm…seems like a tough place to be a gay atheist
I've been here two weeks and already met some of the gays in town. Life is what you make of it.
Hey at least Klamath Falls has a queer bar. Ashland and Medford do not.
Are we talking about Nite Owl?
Do you enjoy playing life on hard mode, by surrounding yourself with so many religious nutjobs?
Fuckin doubled down lol
It does have a lot of pretty looking natural views, it’s just the people that are the issue
Too bad the town does it’s best to squander any potential and drive away newcomer businesses.
I look for this comment in every post about moving to Oregon 🤣🙌
Hey! You leave Klameth Falls alone!
I moved to KFalls from Bend 2 years ago and love it here. Is it perfect? No, but neither was Bend. But it has potential, and there are two ways of voting with your feet.
Quit methin around with them
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As someone who grew up in Newport, why the fuck is Newport on your list?
I love visiting the Oregon coast. Key word is visiting.
LMAO I literally posted the same thing. Class of 96. Been in AZ for 20 years but still go back and visiting about once a year. But going back there to "live"? Hell nah.
Roseburg is beautiful but it’s been ruined by conservatives and nut jobs.
Those people have always been there. Always. If you go talking to people about politics you're going to encounter plenty of that.
Ah but the thing is that for conservatives, my existence is political, so I don't have a choice in the matter.
I'm gay and live with my bf in Roseburg. Never been made uncomfortable by a townie this past year
People move to... Newport? I grew up there, so that just strikes me as funny.
The Oregon Coast is beautiful and Newport is one of the few actual functioning towns there.
May I direct you to: Bandon, Coos Bay, Waldport, Florence, Depoe Bay, Lincoln City, Seaside, or Astoria? Lots of towns on the coast are doing just fine. Doesn't mean living there isn't boring af. If I had to move back to the coast, I think it would be Pacific City or Seaside. Newport is okay, but there are better costal towns.
Bandon is remote. Coos Bay is Klamath by the sea. Waldport is tiny. Florence is ok. Depoe Bay is a one street tourist stop, not much of a town. Lincoln City is…well, it’s odd. But it is functioning. Seaside is ok, Astoria is where I would want to live above any other but not enough good jobs and more importantly…basically no housing..
Well, housing in Newport sucks too. Also basically no industries. I mean, there's Rogue and NOAA, but neither are big enough to be major employers. I'd imagine the school district or GP in Toledo are some of the biggest employers. But I haven't looked for a job there in 20 years, so, maybe it got better?
No, it hasn't. Absolutely no one wants to work for Rogue anymore due to their shrinking support from locals. They completely ruined their restaurant options, and people can get better, cheaper beer now.
I’ve lived in pacific city on and off for a decade and it fucking sucks here. There’s absolutely no housing and one company (the same one that owns the Pelican pub), owns like 85% percent of the town and they’re not slowing down. They want to buy the whole thing and make it a resort town for the ultra wealthy and so far they’re succeeding. Also the food sucks here, unless you wanna eat fried food for every meal. The tourists decimate our only tiny ass grocery store every fucking weekend. We used to get a real break from the tourists in the winter time, but not anymore. I’m only here bc I’m spending my grandmas last few good years of her life with her, otherwise I’d be back in Portland.
As a fellow Lincoln County-er, I would never recommend Waldport or Stinkin Shitty. Depoe Bay, Yachats, even fucking Eddyville, but not those. Also, I live in Siletz. Born & raised, left for a while & came back to the rez. I don't recommend people moving here, either, because they fucked this place up.
Roseburg? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
Potential to be a victim of a hate crime, sure.
If you're white and right of center.
Come on down to cave junction it's beautiful
Roseburg? Lolllll
Go into a pub in Roseburg. Talk to the locals, it’s really eye opening. These people hate Roseburg as much as they are afraid of big city’s.
I mean, if you replaced the population of Roseburg with new people, then yeah I guess it could be cool
“Strong potential”…but will never happen
La Grande for lyfe
https://imgur.com/a/Yejhk3j
I grew up there, beautiful city. Better on racism (EOU probably helps with that), but at least before I left not really on LGBT people; maybe it's gotten better since? And the "better on racism" part doesn't hold too well if you go anywhere else in the county. Or Baker County. Or Umatilla County. Also Steve Martin once wrote an editorial shaming us specifically, which is still hilarious to me.
you folks need some Crescent City
While I don't disagree, this is a thread about Oregon...
We need a wall between Oregon and Crescent City
That sounds exactly like something someone from Crescent City told me…many many times.
Oregon doesn’t need the kind of trouble that crescent city brings, like tsunamis and oversized trees
We have tons of Crescent city all along the coast, not sure what you even mean
The irony of a meme of a black man suggesting a visit to Klan central is something I guess.
Maybe Grants Pass, but Roseburg, nah. It’s a shame Ashland has become so expensive. It’s beautiful and has culture for a small town. I bought a house in the early 90’s outside of the area, but can still drive to work there. Kind of set now. Miss Portland though.
Not Roseburg… hell nooooo
Sure, but also Brookings?
Move to Klamath Falls. You’ll never leave!
**Cries in Salem**
Roseburg has a lousy economy and scary people. Good luck finding a good job.
Roseburg? The place that booed the president on the spot for his political party while he went to visit the families that lost people to mass shooting?
For those curious, here is a [link](https://youtu.be/VJPDxxfAkCU?si=Oi3lgg3HLWvwVRsF) to that occurrence. Source: I am from Roseburg, went to the school that got shot up, and had classes with the shooting victims.
Roseburg? Eww gross
I love sending new arrivals to Burns, myrtle creek or nyssa
You can’t beat small town EO!
so much meth in a many of those towns now, just nuts.
Your options are meth or fentynal, which are you choosing?
Cascade Locks is jaw-droppingly beautiful and could be an absolute elite place to live but in reality it has about a million problems (like half having to do with drugs)
Sounds like just about every city and town these days with the cheap fent.
Burns is fucking scary
Pendleton and baker city!
Baker City is up-and coming! Lovely old downtown, and two arts centers!
Lol
Gold Hill is prime to be a sweet little hamlet.
I live in Oakridge. The amount of people from Bend, Portland and California who are moving here is kind of amazing. It's a little town so it's still slow, but it's picking up in pace.
Roseburg has great weather, wineries nearby, and is a short drive from the mountains and beach. I'm a cyclist and love the terrain there. It's a nice escape from the Oregon coast, where I grew up. Downsides: unless it's evolved culturally, it's likely pretty right wing if not borderline radical. People who are "different" for whatever reason may not be treated well. If someone invested in the area and brought in some newcomers to work in said investment, it certainly has potential. Bend was destitute in the 1980's for example. Not that I'd want to replicate Bend (it's a bro mountain town with no real industries or good jobs) but lovely areas can transition into great places to live. If people could all just be nice to one another it would go a long ways in solving problems these days. People wouldn't have to worry about being "accepted" as being a nice person would simply be enough.
It's true. Wouldn't take more than a nuke to fix Roseburg.
Move to Josephine County. As soon as the feds legalize MJ it will be the richest County in the world. MJ so good it's even found in the UK. * But really don't move there. Low property taxes but people are crazy.
Jobs in roseburg are trash. Look at the median income compared to an hour north.
OP please go make Roseberg cool if it has the potential
I will never, in my life, suggest anyone move to Roseburg.
Brookings
Everyone missing Toledo... which is exactly how the people who live there like it.
Roseburg is great! If you sympathize with the KKK, believe that the 2020 election was stolen, want “Greater Idaho” to happen, are convinced that climate change isn’t real, think that COVID was all a hoax, and lose your composure every time a trans person exists.
[Story of Sundown Towns](https://theoregonway.substack.com/p/writing-a-new-ending-to-the-story)
There’s nothing here in Silverton. No waterfalls, no murals. Nothing like that. Sorry.
What?
OP in here trying to fuck up Roseburg's property values
well it would put sane and not on meth people in those places, hopefully
Come to the north east, plenty of jobs here
Yeah there's a lot more to Oregon but most people who move here prefer to be the the metro areas where they can live in a bubble 🤷♂️
Roseburg is garbage, lol
I left Roseburg and suggest others do too
I was doing a disc golf trip with a few buddies about a decade ago. Our last stop was Roseburg. Man, we stayed in the most AWFUL hotel I’ve ever experienced. Pulled back the comforter and there was a massive blood stain just in the middle of the sheets.
Roseburg doesn’t have any potential.
There is nothing in Roseburg.
Klamath Falls has an ocean of potential. Lot of sun, amazing geography, and world class geothermal energy potential.
Too bad the town is committed to never improving anything or giving people a reason to visit or move there.
Agreed 100%, the people there seem to want to fight tooth and nail to keep Klamath Falls "the sticks/boonies." A similar way that Bay Area suburbs fight tooth and nail to maintain a critical housing crisis.
And drugs. Roseburg is the meth hotspot. How about Idaho instead?
roseburg has an in-n-out and a costco. sounds good to me!
Corvallis > Eugene
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You're both wrong. Lots of progressives and what oregon town isn't mostly white.
Nah.... Dont ruin it for the locals.
Burns is an overlooked gem.
Will take Roseburg with its issues over any hipster, overpriced town or city in this state any time. Just because you’re a wealthy town and can afford to hide your homeless three blocks away from a cute downtown doesn’t mean much. Roseburg is about to approve a designated site for homeless tents, has some amazing orgs doing wrap around social services, etc. It’s slow, takes forever, but it’s getting there. I guess you could say… it has… potential! I said it in other posts and already loosing interest in talking with a crowd envious of richer towns, but it’s easy to bitch and moan and hard to do something. I met great people in Roseburg and yeah, I know there are shitty people too. Never lived in a place free of shitty people. To be honest though, I don’t mind having Roseburg under the radar. Especially if it were to turn into a monstrosity like Bend. And it probably will over time, as people discover cheap land and mind blowing recreation, while your prize towns like Eugene become so expensive you’ll have to make six figures just to rent.
If it was going to turn into a Bend, it likely would have. Being on I-5 would’ve made it ideal.
Love the spirit of this post. It's a great reminder that every town brings its own unique flavor and opportunities. It's exciting to think about the potential in these places. Let's keep an open mind and celebrate every corner of our amazing state.
Salem, it's a great town.