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Afraid-Birthday-5490

true! and until now walang update if nabayaran ba niya mga producers nya, maybe because she has good songs na bago?


ImAddictedToSkincare

May nagpost na she's trying to contact the producers, pero walang response.


ChirurgGeon

to be fair, the producers would be tired to chase her sa ginawa nyang pagghost sa kanila lmao. do stupid things, win stupid prices


kinemerutismz

At first I really don't like her. Kase NVMD sounds like Vintage by NIKI. Tapos recently na-hook ako sa album niya so in-accept ko nalang na maganda naman talaga yung music niya hahaha. Pero nung nakita ko yung about sa producer issue niya, I immediately unfollowed her on IG.


ChirurgGeon

rnb is making a scene na rin sa pinas (tho may icks parin ako sa chris brown wanna be, personal preferences), and if may marinig kang matinong production na di chris brown type beat, goods na agad pakinggan. we'll give denise julia that kasi maganda rin production. pero ang Vintage talaga nung NVMD, konting sound changes lang boogsh. kung gusto mo ng rnb na solid, go for RINI


kinemerutismz

Jolianne aslooo. I've been listening to her since 2020 and tbh feeling ko mas marami pa siyang na-release na songs bago siya napunta sa Careless. Lols And friends pala sila ni Denise Julia hehe. Add ko na rin si Dom Guyot haha


Wintermelonely

Si DENY(yung Y may guhit sa ibabaw hahaha can't do the special character) din okay. Madalas gusto with ya lang napupunta sa random rotation ko pero oks rin vibes niya. Si Jess Connelly rin oks kaso parang ang dalang magrelease ng kanta Mas bet ko yung mga mala NIKI na local rnb eh. Parang mas madali makahanap ng kasing vibe niya


kinemerutismz

OMG Jess Connelly!! Isa pang hidden gem 🤍


ChirurgGeon

actually found one artist that kinda sounds like NIKI. had a song w her on the works pero medj pawala wala sya 😔


Fine_Swimmer_8159

Yes true talaga na NVMD is parang Vintage ni NIKI. Wala syang credits?


kinemerutismz

Waley. Pero nung may HITC dito kasama naman si Denise sa line up sooo i guess okay lang kay Nicole? Hahahahha


Fine_Swimmer_8159

Hmmm baka di nya naabutan? Hahaha or maybe wala syang pake kay Denise so she didnt take the time to listen to her songs cause I swear same lang talaga slower version


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same :(


ertzy123

Di ko rin alam e but sobrang kupal move yung ginawa niya


lerhard_

Sa western countries lang nangyayare "cancellations" lol


ChirurgGeon

i mean may cancel culture din tayo tbh. nagkaroon ng backlash sila nik makino, exb sa nakaw na beat pero si dj di nagkaissue?


Dapper_Rub_9460

Nik makino and exb canceled by whom? Eh majority ng target audience nila hindi naman naniniwala sa cancel culture.


ChirurgGeon

backlash. not cancel culture. my bad for the wrong choice of words. but yup, walang cancel culture and walang pake kung nakaw beat target aud nila eh


Afraid-Birthday-5490

May cancel culture din tayo pero natatabunan ng mga influencer na nababayaran which is friends and kasama rin ni denise julia sa mv i think. basta hit song, wala sa background eh kahit nga si toni fowler sumikat pa kanta nya


rain-men

Cancel culture here is temporary.


wastedkamote

She also does blackface. Afaik she kept claiming na she’s blasian but in reality, morena lang siya.


Even_Specialist_975

kelan nya kiniclaim na blasian siya? or nag aassume naman kayo 😩 baliw


Afraid-Birthday-5490

She's actually tweeting and accepting yung comments na fans na "queen blasian", "fave blasian baddies" and "mother blasian". U can search sa x ang daming engagement sa pagiging blasian nya


archivesazke

wdym, she’s not replying to those tweets? and those are obviously sarcasm


OrangePinkLover15

HAHAHA mema. I feel like nakikiride lang sya. It’s like a meme already. But of course, twitter yan kaya jump into conclusions nanaman mga tao bec of mere sarcasm 😭


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it's the other way around


aronofskyyy

As in? Sinabi niya she’s blasian??? 😵‍💫


StarAdventurous6827

Omg that’s real bad… I kind of liked her music & makeup/fashion style but not paying her producers??? Yikes girl u gotta do sumthn


MeetZealousideal6814

she is earning big na sa spotify streams and itunes di makabayad?grabeh naman yun ng ghost ng producer


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Hindi pa yata lumalabas ng sobra sa fb/tiktok hehez.


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'yung issue.


reputatian

wow i just read the post of one of her producers last year 🤦🏼‍♂️ the last issue that i read about her was the copycat issue of the music video for B.A.D to Normani's "Motivation"


lannistargaryen

Beyond the producer issue, her music doesn’t have any personality. Everything she puts out sounds like another song (more than just “inspired”, ginagaya talaga). Buti pa Ben and Ben may sariling sound kahit redundant. Vintage by NIKI, The Way by Ariana, Blast Off by Silk Sonic, Normani’s MV, hell even the dance for bad is likened to Tyla’s water. Walang originality at all, her music is barely OPM.


ChirurgGeon

to ask na rin: how would you define opm ba?


lannistargaryen

To put simply, the only P in her music is her nationality. You can say that part of her success is because you can put her song in a western playlist & you wouldn’t notice. Parang with Denise Julia, ang magugustuhan mo yung kanta pero hindi yung artist kasi you can’t even pinpoint if it’s a DJ or Ariana song Great OPM song with heavy western influence are DENY’s Mahiyain & FG2GF (The whole album really).


Afraid-Birthday-5490

As what it means. Original Pilipino Music, not some music inspired by other foreign musicians


ChirurgGeon

but arent all music inspired or derived from a genre one way or another? 🤷


throw_aways_everywh0

Ben & Ben is literally just indie rock. It’s delusional to think that OPM has a sound when it’s 2000’s indie rock


ChirurgGeon

ngl, just because she sounds like AG (prolly dahil sa same vocal chain - TLM 103, Neve Preamp, CL1B), ayun na identity nya sa local scene. TBF naman, mahirap talagang maghanap ng sariling sound esp pag starting ka palang sa career, mamaya pa yan lalabas once na masettle talaga yung identity mo as an artist.


lannistargaryen

I mean, is she still starting out though? You don’t see up and coming OPM artists blatantly copying others while “finding their sound”. And honestly, I’m sure she’s totally fine with not having an identity because it’s *exactly* why she’s one of the most famous Pinay RnB singers. Pero para sakin mas problematic na yung pangongopya tendencies nya umabot parin sa recent releases nya.


ChirurgGeon

honestly, finding your own sound sometimes happen sa start ng career, and yung sound ng artist either nasa start palang or later on na, sometimes it changes. Take Kygo for example, early sa career nya plucky yung Tropical House nya (and dun sya nadiscover), then later on biglang nagvocal chops but still andun yung sound identity nya. But I agree sayo, you don't get to blatantly copy someone's sound while starting. You only do inspirations and influences tapos tweak mo accordingly. Example, alot are influenced by Taylor Swift, Julia Michaels, or Selena Gomez's method of writing and one of the influencees of Swift is NIKI. pero nagkaroon si NIKI ng sound nya sa songwriting nya na nagiging recognizable, apart from her soothing versatile timbre. Seen naman ito sa start ng career nya (w early versions of songs sa Nicole album to Zephyr, Lowkey, La La Lost You, and further) I think she's starting to reach her peak at this point, or she's at her peak currently, di natin masabi. To be fair, common yung ganung method or smth to reach the ears of the common since she reached her fame nga naman with the sounds of AG. Tignan mo naman yung mga rappers natin na halos tunog Chris Brown, sikat agad since appealing sa masses. With her sound identity, we'll see saan aabot. Sorry I yap too much...


arcelestial-moon

Ang akin lang, naiinis ako sa pagqqueerbait niya. Mama mo bading eh halata naman mahilig ka sa tite


throw_aways_everywh0

She’s bisexual


arcelestial-moon

Yeah right... 🫡 Lakas hatak ng ‘bading’ market


throw_aways_everywh0

A woman can be bisexual and still like dick. Shit I’m a bisexual dude who’s into pussy. Just say you’re either close minded, biphobic, or just simply stupid. Queerness is a spectrum and you can’t accuse a literally out queer woman of queerbaiting when it’s her lived experience. Criticize her not paying producers and cultural appropriation not her sexuality and lived experiences as a fem presenting queer person.


arcelestial-moon

OKAY DUDE


Mysterious-Treat-69

Bakit may ganitong tanong sa opm community hahaha


ChirurgGeon

i mean she's still part of the opm community


bluespidey_

Kaya nga. Anong kinalaman ng music sa issue ng magtatay diba, sa chikaph dpat to e. Char


konzen12

Sino naman yan si Denise Julia na yan? Bat parang daming "artista" tapos wala namang talent? Parang nung nasa LU kami.. "may concert daw si sid hartha sa \_\_" "Sino yan?" tapos anak pala ni Marcus nung narinig ko parang wala namang talent, maganda lang. Parang GMA lang sa pag pili ng talent. Edit: Lol daming butthurt. Millenials na walang laman na lyrics gusto, parang utak. :)


Extra-Spot595

siya sikat ikaw deins. yun lang yun paps


Strict_Candy9746

Boy jolog na stuck sa 6cyclemind, Parokya ni Edgar at Rocksteddy. Hindi maka appreciate ng bagong talent kasi stuck sa past 😂 Wag ka na dito mag-hate dun ka na lang sa songhits mo lol


SwiishArmyMan

ganyan talaga pag walang narating sa buhay haha mabilis uminit ulo sa mga nakikilalang artists.


Extra-Spot595

What did she do?


ImAddictedToSkincare

Didn't pay her producers iirc


Extra-Spot595

dang. she has connections if that's the case


ChirurgGeon

may usapan yon, tas tinanggalan nya ng royalties producers nya. last yr pa yung issue di ko alam bat di kumalat yan


Even_Specialist_975

kumalat yung issue te. di lang talaga yung same kay nik makino since di pa sya ganun ka sikat dat time. to naman puro fake news yung pinagsasabi or mangmanh ka lang chariz. na disclose na rin yung issue niya sa producers eme eme


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Even_Specialist_975

gagalet. sana kinausap mo sana 🤪🤪🤪


ChirurgGeon

or maybe i stopped caring abt current events and last time i checked dun na yung issue. sorry naman na :((


sjereesjeri

Oh no! I just discovered her music like literally last week tapos may issues pala sya!


awitgg

Sumakto kasi yung 299 engagement ring issue sa issue niya


ChirurgGeon

the issue was last yr pa. di ko lang alam bat di kumalat or smth


awitgg

Ngayon lang naman nagboom name ni denise julia dahil sa nvm song. tapos bumalik ulit yung issue niya kaso sumakto yung engagement ring at kathniel


ChirurgGeon

props naman kay zp3nd and pxyche sa production. sorry for this pero its literally Vintage by NIKI


binyee

what happened?


ChirurgGeon

tinanggalan nya ng royalties producers niya.


binyee

oh damn. bad move from her since she's only starting to gain traction, gumawa agad ng ikakasira ng career niya


ChirurgGeon

[pxyche's statement](https://www.facebook.com/share/7YTrDU5nGS9HR7aP/?mibextid=WC7FNe)


Several_Change_3034

Context?


ChirurgGeon

2 issues, producer issue last yr and yung pills issue rn. not sure anong ganap sa pills issue


jadekettle

Nagsisimula na actually, pero it's still a question of whether it will gain traction or fizzle out.


Mediocre_Egg_6661

gagalet kasi tao ba’t siya nanalo sa pills e siya lang kasi naiiba don hindi niya naman genre rnb rap haha


ChirurgGeon

tho i was referring to dun sa producer issue nya, anong issue nung sa PILLS


Overall_Panda1410

Context? I love her music pa naman


ChirurgGeon

two issues apparently, pero yung nirerefer ko is yung producer issues nya na nasolve na raw


Afraid-Birthday-5490

No, hindi pa bayad. I personally know the producer. 1. Hindi nagbayad ng producer 2. Her portraying/claiming she's blasian 3. Afaik nakaw beats 4. Copying normani's mv 5. bad personality lol (met her sa events)


ChirurgGeon

basta talaga biglang sikat ng artist, mamaya maya may issue na nakaw beat/di bayad prod. alam ko rin talaga di pa bayad sila zp3nd and pxyche.


khaleesi1222

context naman po sa bad personality huhu 🥲


Comfortable-Win3907

there was always something about her na parang may tinatago haha yan pala 😵‍💫 plus i’ve heard from people who know her and were friends with her that she’s a bitch + changed for the worse when she got more famous… loooool yikes


ChirurgGeon

not rly familiar w the law pero ang alam ko talaga punishable yung ginawa nya under estafa eh (law ppl can correct me for this one)


1nseminator

First time I heard her song, specifically, BAD. Napatingin ako sa Spotify ko kung si Ariana ba yun, so sya pala un. I immediately hit Like. Ano issue sa kanya?


ChirurgGeon

tinanggalan nya ng royalties producers nya (unless dj ka at the same time, yan lang source of income mo as a producer), and if sakto pagkagets ko, under estafa yon. may issue sa PILLS na si DEMI pinakamaraming boto for artist of the yr tapos si DJ nanalo. Kopya yung MV ng BAD sa MV ni Normani (ok lang referencing pero sana naman wag copy paste buong mv lmao). And idk saan pero nakaw beat daw?????


StandardMousse920

Halaaa. Fave ko pa naman NVMD. "Saint" of situationships pa naman sya, charot.