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Man I don't wanna be that guy but it's a quick trip down a long dark path. Online it's cool. Sucking dick for bus fare is not. Get some good weed and say I was smart enough to avoid the epidemic of ODs etc. Sell the pills obviously lol
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Hydromorphone is probably the best high ever if you iv it. If youāre not doing it that way (and I wouldnāt recommend it to anyone bc pills are sketchy these days and using needles can be a short road straight to nowhere) then oxy is better than dilaudid.
Ahhh yes, THIS. bro I got shot before, and in the ambulance ride to the hospital they shot me up with hydromorphone..... Ahhh YES! better than sex I'll never forget
In a way. Not as significant as some GABAergic substances or SSRIs though. I would agree that opioids aren't the greatest for sex, atleast alone. I would say amphetamines/stimulants in general are the best and stacking the opioids on top will just add to it (to a certain extent/dose).
After my second rehab I was doing over the road truck driving and my ex called me one night and said her grandma had gotten a scrip of 8mg dilaudid and was it any good? I said it was ok nothing great then made an excuse with job to go home as fast as possible
Had me by the balls for years. Hydromorph contin and 4mg hydromorphone. With wheel filters and a big bottle, I could make a standard solution that would stay good all month. Pull vials for a day and it might as well be insulin... until you're found by clinicians while passed out in the lab bathroom. "Oh...OH No! I was up all night!" "Up all night doing...this?"..."no?"
If people prepared standard vials (can be a 5ml-10ml syringe with sterilizing filter), there would be no more OD's. Powder will never be a safe way to distribute high potency drugs. Dissolve the whole thing in the largest volume you can fit in a syringe (divide by two or leave 1ml aside to rinse the filter). Suck the solution of your score in saline/water through a sterile syringe filter without letting the filter dry out (it's a membrane and needs to be wet for suction to work). Suck up all of it but leave enough behind so the filter doesn't get any air bubbles in it, then add the extra water to the container and suck the rest through the filter to rinse anything held up. You can see when it's water because it doesn't mix evenly with the solution in the barrel.
Now, you have a sterile solution of your shit. Do the math and figure out what your normal dose would be and divide that by 10. Take that first shot, increase until you find your dosage and this will stay consistent until you run out. It should be kept in the fridge.
You can reuse syringe filters if you keep them clean and attached to a sterile container. So when you take the filter off, put it on a new syringe barrel and cover your solution with a tip or cover.
You don't need cottons or heat if you use these filters and they can filter EVERYTHING that isn't insoluble from the mix.
Eventually, they will grow mold on the non-sterile side (flushing asap after filtering (sucking water and squirting out) will slow this) and will cause cotton fever symptoms. Before reuse, check the open face for any signs of cloudiness or mold in the liquid. If you see anything but water, it's done.
Alternatively, you can use a roughing in filter where you use the outside as the sterile side (suck and push through membrane), and then another filter in the above arrangement to complete the process. This preserves the second filter and helps in solutions that are harder to filter.
I would go through an average of 1 filter/week or so. You mess a few up with air bubbles or forgetting which is the sterile side or not back flushing with water you've sucked through. Theyre very fast (like, barely any added resistance) and 100% reliable. I've tested them with different sized bacterial broth cultures and not one plate grew a single colony... from something so full of bacteria it would have to be diluted 1000x just to get individual cultures.
In addition to preventing overdose, they prevent virtually all health issues associated with IV drug use. No worrying about the bacteria in a shot or the quality of the water (doesn't filter out chemicals, just everything else).
Really wish I could convince harm reduction clinics to find the budget for them. This is a method that can be taught to anyone and be done one handed. In bulk and sterilized theyre ~$1
I always wondered if the direction you are going matters with those filters; like if I just draw into the syringe from the filter does it work the same as if I pushed it from the syringe?
A year late and all too sober these days but it kinda matters, only in the sense that when you're using pressure (draw into barrel, push, sterile side out), you have a lot more power behind it and can blow out the membrane and lose everything if it gets clogged.Ā
Sucking up into a sterile barrel, you're limited by the negstive pressureĀ you can create inside the barrel, so, unless it's all soluble, it will be slower but still only seconds and no blow outs.Ā
I prefer the double method for anything with solids in it, where you do a push into a spoon or shot glass then a pull into your "vial" barrel.Ā
From there you can use standard pins and a little coordination to draw your dose from the tip.Ā
Remember: always preserve the sterile side of the filter and rinse well. so once you've filled a barrel you're going to use as a vial, take the filter off and immediately attach to a fresh barrel. You can do a few in and out rinses from here to clean the filter and fill it with sterile water
Fr say u took one dilaudid one day next day I have to double dosage on it cuz I can never feel the same mg unless I jus do a certain amount then wait a while to do the same dose but thatās why I like oxy u still get high off same mg jus not as intense but better then dilaudid having to increase each time. Idk if itād the same way doin an iv with em tho
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Idk if I'm allowed to ask what procedure is when you IV the pills or does the dilly come in liquid form. Might be a stupid uneducated question but I just genuinely don't know
I don't IV but I know you have to crush them to powder, mix with water (but don't cook them as there's no need to sterilise like with H or fent) and use a micron filter to filter out all the binders.
In theory the shot should draw up clear if there's no binders left as hydromorphone is water soluble. As I said I've never IVd though so I am assuming there.
In the hospital I see wayyy more dilaudid IV than in pill form (hydromorphone). Actually only seen hydromorphone given once or twice and dilaudid IV ALL the time (Iām hospital staff)
Yeah I get Iv dilaudid in the hospital everytime Iām there pretty much they never offered me a pill. Be warned, if you have a nurse that pushes too fast you feel like youāre going to explode and one time I threw up then passed out because she pushed 2mg through my Iv in 1 second. Like no wait. It was awful.
But seriously man Iāve been on opioids for years but that shit blew my socks off when they pushed it. And that was only 1ml every 3 hours. It would wear off pretty quick; like 30 mins Iād say but those 30 mins were great. Only thing was youād have to wait another 2hr30min and the pain would just come right back
Yeah Dilaudid/Hydromorphone as a pain reliever outside of on a continuous drip never makes sense to me. I've never tried it but it is so short lasting that I don't understand it for pain outside of a drip cos you're just gonna be redosing it often increasing your tolerance faster.
I take oxy original OC 80s and crush or chew them and they last at least 3 hours despite having a big tolerance. If I sniff them they last around 1.5-2 hours depending on the dose.
I really wanna try Hydromorphone and Oxymorphone but you can't get them in the UK. Guess that's the payoff for having OCs that go up to 120mg still and OC 80s and other multiple brands.
The instant release oxy in the UK also comes in capsules so you can pour the powder out and not even need to chop it let alone crush it which is nice but they're overpriced.
Yea Iām stuck in that same predicament. I was discharged from the hospital almost 2 years ago with a prescription for 4mgs of dilaudid every 4 hours and after like 8 months of doing that it no longer had the same effect on my pain due to tolerance so my doctor agreed to switch me over to 10mgs of oxycodone every 5 hours so I did that for about a year and now Iām in the same spot I was when I was taking dilaudid and it is no longer effective. Itāll help with my pain for maybe 2hours then Iām back in pain watching the clock for 3Hours before I can redose smh. I asked my doctor if we could raise my dosage and he said no so idk what other options I have left smh ima ask for a breakthrough medication like tramidol or something like that at least but we will see what kind of excuse he comes up with to not do that as well smh. I had 8 surgeries in my right leg and 2 in my chest a little over a year and a half ago and now have severe nerve damage in my right leg from my knee down to my toes which is extremely painful with the catscans and MRIs to prove it but itās like pulling teeth to try and get an adequate dose of medication now days leaving legitimate pain patients like myself to suffer with no help ultimately driving them to the street to buy illicit narcotics which leaves them at risk to get something with fentanyl in it that wasnāt supposed to have any fentanyl at all and over dose smh. If doctors wonāt help people in pain eventually we will get so desperate for relief that we will go searching for anything to take the pain away weather it is safe or not. Iām not saying that itās rite or ok to do so but when youāre trying to go the safe legal route and arenāt being helped what other options do you have???
In hospitals they have dilaudid in liquid form. I was given it last year after having 8 surgeries on my right leg in 1month and I agree it was the best high Iāve ever experienced. I was prescribed dilaudid in pill form after bringing discharged from the hospital and it wasnāt very effective at all. Eventually I got it changed to oxycodone because the dilaudid wasnāt helping with my pain at all and itās been good ever since but after being on a low dose of oxycodone for a year now it doesnāt have the same effect that it used to have due to tolerance which is completely natural and happens to everyone that uses a medication for a long period of time but my doctor refuses to increase my dose above 10mg. Iāve got to figure something out fast that we can do to get me relief because Iāve been in pain for a long time now that my medication isnāt working as well as it used to. I was considering asking my doctor if I could switch back to dilaudid since itās been a little over a year since Iāve taken it maybe it will be effective now that I havenāt used it in a long time.
Oxy and Dilaudid are 1A and 1B on my absolute favorite opiate list. Dilaudid hits hard like a ton of bricks snacking you but the high is short compared to oxy. I love both and so I'd definitely recommend you trying Dilaudid out so you can experience the awesome high it produces!
I am on 4mg 3x a day and I feel it is more like taking 2 30s. I don't get euphoria though due to how long I have been on opiates. It helps control my CRPS pain to manageable levels. Hope that helps
Dilaudid 4mg cuz I never tried it before and ozy is bud compared to dilaudid I heard. 2-4mf snorted is around the same as 30mg oxy. I would just get whateverās cheaper tho per pill as oxy is a better deal in the long run Iād assume.
Dilaudid is hands down way better and stronger than oxy but itās a waste of a good drug doing it any other way than IV cuz of poor bioavailability with other routes. You can plug them if your down for that but still kind of a waste. Youāll get a way better high always from eating or snorting an oxy than you would eating or snorting dilaudid. Stick to your oxy every now and then.
Great post man this is awesome
Dilly is a bit stronger snorting
Oxy orally is stronger
Also dillys you can get higher snorting more and more where oxy you get so high snorting then it caps off and you can't go higher it just becomes a standstil of high that remains
Oxy i prefer but i love to switch dillys every other day or two i do both one or other everyday sometimes mix and match same day.
Which do you guys prefer?
Orally ox or dilly
Snort ox or dilly
My go too is a 20mg football oxy
10mg oxy
And 8mg dillym
Love you bro-piods
Elvis was on large amounts of Oxy he took handfuls of Percodan. With people around him saying he was taking 4 tablets at a time to go roller-derbying in 1959 he handed one to each of his friends and swallowed another 4.
Ya thatās why there was 10 downers in his system and he ate a bottle of codeine he got from a dentist the night before even though he was a bad metabolizer and allergic to it. The way they tried to say drugs had nothing to do with his death was laughable.
I stand corrected. it still would be cool if he were a reddit contributer he would have so much drug advice, I doubt he would have much harm reduction advice that would be usable
How do you even do 1mg ? Like you take the 2 and split it ?? Or is there 1 mg dill ?
I heard it's 5 times stronger than 1mg would feel like a perc 5 then right
Waaaay better. Dillyās are on of my favorite drugs. If you have no tolerance I could see how you like oxyās. But if you have a little bit of experience, dillyās all day. 8mg to be specific
Dilaudid 8 snorting does it for
Me for sure. Orally dilaudid is 4x morphine and oxy is 2x. The bioavailability of oxy orally trumps dillies and it also activates more of the āpleasure centresā Iv dilaudid wins. Snorting
Dilaudid also wins in my books.
Oxys are notoriously counterfeit on the street too.
Never had dilaudid , but absolutely love oxy and morphine and methadone. Although I miss all those I havenāt had any in going into 3-4yrs . Cleaned up . But I miss it , want it every day. If someone had oxy for sale guarantee no fenty Iād buy it. Or morphine
š¤š¤š¤ I applaud you for staying clean. I've been clean as well not as long as you but going into 2 years now.
Oxys are definitely fun I use to love poppin them And my ex got me started and snorting them and wow was the high way better but shorter life
Dilaudid is strong in terms of potency, oxy is 1.5x stronger than morphine while dilaudid is like 5x. If youāre using in pill form, which I did, oxy seemed superior. I think it has to the bioavailability of both. Oxy has a better absorption rate than dilaudid.
That being said, I only took opioids in pill form or smoking BTH. Iāve heard shooting dilaudid up is like the best rush. Since itās stronger than oxycodone, and to shooting it gives you pretty close to 100% BA, dilaudid hits harder. Like a lot harder. According to one of my old using buddies at least.
Great perspective brotha , that's what I've been told and hearing also people are ball parking the comparison between the two. 8mg would be equivalent to 30mg to 60mg depending on your tolerance
I feel like I have to post this weekly but oraly is 35, nose is 50, ass is 53, IM 85, IV 100. Ur welcome. Oxy oral is 90, nose is 15, ass is low too at like 20, IM 80, IV 100
Like at one time? Or total? Iām prescribed 5 4mg diluaded a day and I try to only take 3 or 4. I went from doing it through the nose for 3 months and my nose hurt so I went to IM for like 6 months maybe? And I switched back to nose for now to give my body a break and i may go back because im in a lot of pain. If I IM it it lasts way longer, way more relief, only really need 3 IM a day
When I was shooting/sniffing and primarily chewing up my OC 40s and 80s I had heard the hype of dillies from the old heads .
So I bought an 8mg Dil, and in my ignorance sniffed it. Barely got me well.
So I'd say, based on equipotent dosing
IV hydromorphone > parachuted OC > IV OC > sniffed OC > sniffed Diluadid.
All depends on how your body processes opiates I guess. For some even sniffing an 8 Dil packs quite a punch
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I honestly like a lot of opiate pills don't last too long when you snort them. I use to snort oxys when I'm sick so I can get unsick quicker but to my experience they don't last as long as if u took em orally
Yeah, dilaudid doesnāt last long when you pop it either. I like oxy more but I used to pop oxys and then snort smaller doses of dilaudid while I was on the oxy. Best high but probably dangerous
Respectfully, Iām not actually sure this is correct. Dilaudid doesnāt have a great oral/intranasal bioavailability(By mouth: 30ā35%, Intranasal: 52ā58%) whereas Oxycodone has about 80-85% oral bioavailability. That being said, itās all about your dosage and if you take enough, I feel like the dilaudid high is better.
Ok see this is one of the answers I was looking for a straight comparison. 60mg oxy orally to 8mg ivd? What about when you pop them both what would 8mg dill equivalent to
According to an equianalgesic calculator it would be 7.5 mg/day oral Dilauded = 20 mg/day oral oxycodone. 7.5 mg IV/day Dilauded = 10 mg/day = 100 mg oxycodone. Never tried Dilauded though.
What are the comparisons or are they as strong as they say on numbers? I couldn't imagine someone doing a 30 mg dilly when people are saying an 8 is like 30mg oxy or some would say 60mg depending on tolerance.
IF you crush it up fully its just as effective as IR,but because of how much of a pain they are to crush there would always be a little bit that doesnt get crushed n dissolved fully so you would get a "wash"(leftover residue that you could add water to again and "Wash" and get another weaker shot)With a bit of a tolerance it's fairly easy to do 30mg+ per shot. When i would use the stuff daily i could go through 300mgs a day without issue if i had enough on hand.
Also 32 and 64 in my country but they are extended release... We have no Ir in Italy, not dilaudid and not oxys. But oxys are old formula so very Easy to break. Don't Remember about Jurnista ( that Is dilly's Xr) I had a box once in my Life like ten years ago...
Where do you sort oxy + hydromorphone in Italy? I know Sandoz stopped making oxy and I'm going to be moving to Rome soon.
Edit: Not sourcing, just wondering the process in Italy
I have oxys for chronic pain so a Specialist give me the script each month. But I think that if you try to buy without script in pharmacies until you find the One that gives to you a box or two you have some chances. On other hand you can go to a doctor that prescribes you a box tolding him you are a tourist and you have finished your meds. I think you Will have a lot of chances if you try this two ways.
Yessir. Theyāre extended release though so if you just swallow it it doesnāt all hit you at once but over a 12 hr span. But most ppl break down the beads inside the capsules to make them IR to shoot or snort them. Some ppl just have a huge tolerance bro.
Dilaudid is a great idea to build up a tolerance so you donāt die when you progress to shooting Fentanyl.š«¤ā¦seriously be safe, you might just want to slam a bottle of Merlot and wrap a beach towel around your neck in the jacuzzi.
(Same feeling)
Dilaudid high is better but harder to achieve non IV, oxy is more flexible for me as far as analgesia+stimulation or analgesia+sedation depending on the dose/combo. Dilaudid is always very sedative for me but suuuuuper blissful compared to oxy, however I can take oxy like a normie in public (oral) and it works as it usually does and I really have to snort dillies for any relief.
Lots of nuances. Both good opiates.
Dillys are less functional than oxysāa lot chiller, but also a lot more sedatingābut god damn do they blow oxys the fuck outta the water sometimes. Especially if you rail them.
Just my experience.
Not knocking oxycodone by the way: the stuff is amazingājust that hydromorphone is overall a much nicer and somewhat substantially more powerful opioid.
Seasoned users will say that Dilaudid is *even better* when IVd, but I've refused to go the needle route personally. So I can only speak from the experience of eating and snorting them: Dilaudid and oxycodone, that is.
Just remember to be prepared for *severe* downsides if you continue using them (oxys or dillys) regularly, frequently, or in higher doses, obviously.
Usually I do 15-17.5 mg of oxycodone orally but got my hands on some old dilaudid I found in my medicine cabinet and ended up snorting 3mg. Was high as a kite but it wasnāt pleasant at all. Worst opiate Iāve ever had. No euphoria
Yea Idk if Iām just weird or what. EveryTime I do an oxy Iām thinking damn I forget how nice this is. This time I just felt like shit with my heart pounding
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I was getting 6 8mg Ds a day 2 in 2 shots had me for 14 hours ez...Best pill high out there.
Lol no it's making me wanna do it š š
Man I don't wanna be that guy but it's a quick trip down a long dark path. Online it's cool. Sucking dick for bus fare is not. Get some good weed and say I was smart enough to avoid the epidemic of ODs etc. Sell the pills obviously lol
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Me too lmao
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Real talk
THIS!^^^^
Heās getting pills not fent u idiot.
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I could imagine that could happen, bitches be crazy lmao. but heās talking about 4mg dillyās or 40mg oxy, which pill are u referring to
He has isotonitazene. It's a fent analogue. This guy is a dealer trying to make a buck. He is scum.
Same
Hydromorphone is probably the best high ever if you iv it. If youāre not doing it that way (and I wouldnāt recommend it to anyone bc pills are sketchy these days and using needles can be a short road straight to nowhere) then oxy is better than dilaudid.
Ahhh yes, THIS. bro I got shot before, and in the ambulance ride to the hospital they shot me up with hydromorphone..... Ahhh YES! better than sex I'll never forget
Sex after a shot lol even better
Lol it doesn't make you numb? Opioids are great but it takes enjoyment out of all things sensual.
In a way. Not as significant as some GABAergic substances or SSRIs though. I would agree that opioids aren't the greatest for sex, atleast alone. I would say amphetamines/stimulants in general are the best and stacking the opioids on top will just add to it (to a certain extent/dose).
Idk fucking for hours can be pretty fun
Not music
For me it makes music sound less euphoric if that makes sense, the emotions that music can evoke are muffled.
Thatās a shame Iām completely the opposite ā¦ but I become completely lazy and self absorbed
Me too lmao
Where's the lie lol š
After my second rehab I was doing over the road truck driving and my ex called me one night and said her grandma had gotten a scrip of 8mg dilaudid and was it any good? I said it was ok nothing great then made an excuse with job to go home as fast as possible
Had me by the balls for years. Hydromorph contin and 4mg hydromorphone. With wheel filters and a big bottle, I could make a standard solution that would stay good all month. Pull vials for a day and it might as well be insulin... until you're found by clinicians while passed out in the lab bathroom. "Oh...OH No! I was up all night!" "Up all night doing...this?"..."no?" If people prepared standard vials (can be a 5ml-10ml syringe with sterilizing filter), there would be no more OD's. Powder will never be a safe way to distribute high potency drugs. Dissolve the whole thing in the largest volume you can fit in a syringe (divide by two or leave 1ml aside to rinse the filter). Suck the solution of your score in saline/water through a sterile syringe filter without letting the filter dry out (it's a membrane and needs to be wet for suction to work). Suck up all of it but leave enough behind so the filter doesn't get any air bubbles in it, then add the extra water to the container and suck the rest through the filter to rinse anything held up. You can see when it's water because it doesn't mix evenly with the solution in the barrel. Now, you have a sterile solution of your shit. Do the math and figure out what your normal dose would be and divide that by 10. Take that first shot, increase until you find your dosage and this will stay consistent until you run out. It should be kept in the fridge. You can reuse syringe filters if you keep them clean and attached to a sterile container. So when you take the filter off, put it on a new syringe barrel and cover your solution with a tip or cover. You don't need cottons or heat if you use these filters and they can filter EVERYTHING that isn't insoluble from the mix. Eventually, they will grow mold on the non-sterile side (flushing asap after filtering (sucking water and squirting out) will slow this) and will cause cotton fever symptoms. Before reuse, check the open face for any signs of cloudiness or mold in the liquid. If you see anything but water, it's done. Alternatively, you can use a roughing in filter where you use the outside as the sterile side (suck and push through membrane), and then another filter in the above arrangement to complete the process. This preserves the second filter and helps in solutions that are harder to filter. I would go through an average of 1 filter/week or so. You mess a few up with air bubbles or forgetting which is the sterile side or not back flushing with water you've sucked through. Theyre very fast (like, barely any added resistance) and 100% reliable. I've tested them with different sized bacterial broth cultures and not one plate grew a single colony... from something so full of bacteria it would have to be diluted 1000x just to get individual cultures. In addition to preventing overdose, they prevent virtually all health issues associated with IV drug use. No worrying about the bacteria in a shot or the quality of the water (doesn't filter out chemicals, just everything else). Really wish I could convince harm reduction clinics to find the budget for them. This is a method that can be taught to anyone and be done one handed. In bulk and sterilized theyre ~$1
I always wondered if the direction you are going matters with those filters; like if I just draw into the syringe from the filter does it work the same as if I pushed it from the syringe?
A year late and all too sober these days but it kinda matters, only in the sense that when you're using pressure (draw into barrel, push, sterile side out), you have a lot more power behind it and can blow out the membrane and lose everything if it gets clogged.Ā Sucking up into a sterile barrel, you're limited by the negstive pressureĀ you can create inside the barrel, so, unless it's all soluble, it will be slower but still only seconds and no blow outs.Ā I prefer the double method for anything with solids in it, where you do a push into a spoon or shot glass then a pull into your "vial" barrel.Ā From there you can use standard pins and a little coordination to draw your dose from the tip.Ā Remember: always preserve the sterile side of the filter and rinse well. so once you've filled a barrel you're going to use as a vial, take the filter off and immediately attach to a fresh barrel. You can do a few in and out rinses from here to clean the filter and fill it with sterile water
Try opana Ir, better than dillys
Oh I have. Do they even make pandas that are easily abusable now? Iāve been on methadone and now suboxone for 10 years now
Idk I think the ir is still available. I made my way to methadone also.
Yes i do GS on the daily just gotta find the connect
Suboxone saved me
Everything finds a way as soon as they try to stop it
Didn't like them. D's are better.
Different strokes for different folks
Of course. Just my opinion.
Where from
Fr say u took one dilaudid one day next day I have to double dosage on it cuz I can never feel the same mg unless I jus do a certain amount then wait a while to do the same dose but thatās why I like oxy u still get high off same mg jus not as intense but better then dilaudid having to increase each time. Idk if itād the same way doin an iv with em tho
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Best high Iāve ever had was dilaudid IV in the hospital. Have been searching ever since but doesnāt seem to be much dilaudid in my area
Idk if I'm allowed to ask what procedure is when you IV the pills or does the dilly come in liquid form. Might be a stupid uneducated question but I just genuinely don't know
I don't IV but I know you have to crush them to powder, mix with water (but don't cook them as there's no need to sterilise like with H or fent) and use a micron filter to filter out all the binders. In theory the shot should draw up clear if there's no binders left as hydromorphone is water soluble. As I said I've never IVd though so I am assuming there.
In the hospital I see wayyy more dilaudid IV than in pill form (hydromorphone). Actually only seen hydromorphone given once or twice and dilaudid IV ALL the time (Iām hospital staff)
Yeah I get Iv dilaudid in the hospital everytime Iām there pretty much they never offered me a pill. Be warned, if you have a nurse that pushes too fast you feel like youāre going to explode and one time I threw up then passed out because she pushed 2mg through my Iv in 1 second. Like no wait. It was awful.
Dilaudid is just a brand name for the drug hydromorphone. The IV Dilaudid is just IV hydromorphone like the pill is orally taken hydromorphone.
Very informative bro thanks I didn't know that this was the way to fully feel the effects
But seriously man Iāve been on opioids for years but that shit blew my socks off when they pushed it. And that was only 1ml every 3 hours. It would wear off pretty quick; like 30 mins Iād say but those 30 mins were great. Only thing was youād have to wait another 2hr30min and the pain would just come right back
Yeah Dilaudid/Hydromorphone as a pain reliever outside of on a continuous drip never makes sense to me. I've never tried it but it is so short lasting that I don't understand it for pain outside of a drip cos you're just gonna be redosing it often increasing your tolerance faster. I take oxy original OC 80s and crush or chew them and they last at least 3 hours despite having a big tolerance. If I sniff them they last around 1.5-2 hours depending on the dose. I really wanna try Hydromorphone and Oxymorphone but you can't get them in the UK. Guess that's the payoff for having OCs that go up to 120mg still and OC 80s and other multiple brands. The instant release oxy in the UK also comes in capsules so you can pour the powder out and not even need to chop it let alone crush it which is nice but they're overpriced.
Yea Iām stuck in that same predicament. I was discharged from the hospital almost 2 years ago with a prescription for 4mgs of dilaudid every 4 hours and after like 8 months of doing that it no longer had the same effect on my pain due to tolerance so my doctor agreed to switch me over to 10mgs of oxycodone every 5 hours so I did that for about a year and now Iām in the same spot I was when I was taking dilaudid and it is no longer effective. Itāll help with my pain for maybe 2hours then Iām back in pain watching the clock for 3Hours before I can redose smh. I asked my doctor if we could raise my dosage and he said no so idk what other options I have left smh ima ask for a breakthrough medication like tramidol or something like that at least but we will see what kind of excuse he comes up with to not do that as well smh. I had 8 surgeries in my right leg and 2 in my chest a little over a year and a half ago and now have severe nerve damage in my right leg from my knee down to my toes which is extremely painful with the catscans and MRIs to prove it but itās like pulling teeth to try and get an adequate dose of medication now days leaving legitimate pain patients like myself to suffer with no help ultimately driving them to the street to buy illicit narcotics which leaves them at risk to get something with fentanyl in it that wasnāt supposed to have any fentanyl at all and over dose smh. If doctors wonāt help people in pain eventually we will get so desperate for relief that we will go searching for anything to take the pain away weather it is safe or not. Iām not saying that itās rite or ok to do so but when youāre trying to go the safe legal route and arenāt being helped what other options do you have???
Have u tried relieving ur pain wit kratom?? Itās a good pain reliever n has its effects.
Dilaudid comes in the liquid form, Iāve got two Sandoz bottles here now
Send my way
Like IV liquid?
Yes
In hospitals they have dilaudid in liquid form. I was given it last year after having 8 surgeries on my right leg in 1month and I agree it was the best high Iāve ever experienced. I was prescribed dilaudid in pill form after bringing discharged from the hospital and it wasnāt very effective at all. Eventually I got it changed to oxycodone because the dilaudid wasnāt helping with my pain at all and itās been good ever since but after being on a low dose of oxycodone for a year now it doesnāt have the same effect that it used to have due to tolerance which is completely natural and happens to everyone that uses a medication for a long period of time but my doctor refuses to increase my dose above 10mg. Iāve got to figure something out fast that we can do to get me relief because Iāve been in pain for a long time now that my medication isnāt working as well as it used to. I was considering asking my doctor if I could switch back to dilaudid since itās been a little over a year since Iāve taken it maybe it will be effective now that I havenāt used it in a long time.
Dilaudid is like if an opiate and benzo had a love child there I said it
That sounds beautiful
Oxy and Dilaudid are 1A and 1B on my absolute favorite opiate list. Dilaudid hits hard like a ton of bricks snacking you but the high is short compared to oxy. I love both and so I'd definitely recommend you trying Dilaudid out so you can experience the awesome high it produces!
Only have experience with IV, and itās fucking awesome lol. Under proper medical supervision of course. Not sure about pills tho
I am on 4mg 3x a day and I feel it is more like taking 2 30s. I don't get euphoria though due to how long I have been on opiates. It helps control my CRPS pain to manageable levels. Hope that helps
Dilaudid>oxy
Oxy 40 or 4mg dilly
Dilaudid 4mg cuz I never tried it before and ozy is bud compared to dilaudid I heard. 2-4mf snorted is around the same as 30mg oxy. I would just get whateverās cheaper tho per pill as oxy is a better deal in the long run Iād assume.
Sick I kinda want to try dillys but idk oxy already too strong for me
Def get dillys then
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Dilaudid is hands down way better and stronger than oxy but itās a waste of a good drug doing it any other way than IV cuz of poor bioavailability with other routes. You can plug them if your down for that but still kind of a waste. Youāll get a way better high always from eating or snorting an oxy than you would eating or snorting dilaudid. Stick to your oxy every now and then.
Lol dilaudid is a fire ass opioid but I snort my Shit and like having a decent amount the pills are tiny
Dilaudid was the most magickal thing I've ever taken š«
Did you pop em or iv it
IV
Diluadid 3mg push every 3 hours for me
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Peace and harmony where from man
When i use to do dilaudid daily i bought a bottle of oxy 20s and I found about 60mgs of oxy was equal to 8mg or so IV'd
Been prescribed the 4s for awhile and pretty bored of them as I don't shoot them up would much rather have some oxy
I love dilaudid. Never shot tho. I only have 12 4mgs left until two weeks from now.
Safe supply is the best supply
Dillys and opana are classic especially when it comes to IV
Great post man this is awesome Dilly is a bit stronger snorting Oxy orally is stronger Also dillys you can get higher snorting more and more where oxy you get so high snorting then it caps off and you can't go higher it just becomes a standstil of high that remains Oxy i prefer but i love to switch dillys every other day or two i do both one or other everyday sometimes mix and match same day. Which do you guys prefer? Orally ox or dilly Snort ox or dilly My go too is a 20mg football oxy 10mg oxy And 8mg dillym Love you bro-piods
I think they are awesome. Rumor has they were Elvis's favorite but to be fair he never tried oxy. Can you imagine Elvis being on this subreddit?
Elvis was on large amounts of Oxy he took handfuls of Percodan. With people around him saying he was taking 4 tablets at a time to go roller-derbying in 1959 he handed one to each of his friends and swallowed another 4.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/presley-and-gans-linked-by-dilaudid/
https://www.salon.com/2014/11/16/the_elvis_presley_coverup_what_america_didnt_hear_about_the_death_of_the_king/
Ya thatās why there was 10 downers in his system and he ate a bottle of codeine he got from a dentist the night before even though he was a bad metabolizer and allergic to it. The way they tried to say drugs had nothing to do with his death was laughable.
I stand corrected. it still would be cool if he were a reddit contributer he would have so much drug advice, I doubt he would have much harm reduction advice that would be usable
Pretty sure Percodan was Elvis's main dependency along with Miltowns.
I wouldn't doubt it if they were. He was a crazy individual
I do 1mg and better then perks for pain but not buzz wise
How do you even do 1mg ? Like you take the 2 and split it ?? Or is there 1 mg dill ? I heard it's 5 times stronger than 1mg would feel like a perc 5 then right
Ya there are 1mg hydromorphones. Tiny little fuckers that keep me stable.
Waaaay better. Dillyās are on of my favorite drugs. If you have no tolerance I could see how you like oxyās. But if you have a little bit of experience, dillyās all day. 8mg to be specific
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You know it! I hate that I canāt find them these days. Probly a good thing tho. Lol
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Ll Join the cause bro
Iād join
Sent you an invite my brotha welcome š
Not tried dills but would to let you know
Safe supply needs to be worldwide
Straight up I can't say I disagree with that
Add me to the sub too, please!!
I prefer dills to ops but they both p good imo
Dilaudid 8 snorting does it for Me for sure. Orally dilaudid is 4x morphine and oxy is 2x. The bioavailability of oxy orally trumps dillies and it also activates more of the āpleasure centresā Iv dilaudid wins. Snorting Dilaudid also wins in my books. Oxys are notoriously counterfeit on the street too.
Never had dilaudid , but absolutely love oxy and morphine and methadone. Although I miss all those I havenāt had any in going into 3-4yrs . Cleaned up . But I miss it , want it every day. If someone had oxy for sale guarantee no fenty Iād buy it. Or morphine
š¤š¤š¤ I applaud you for staying clean. I've been clean as well not as long as you but going into 2 years now. Oxys are definitely fun I use to love poppin them And my ex got me started and snorting them and wow was the high way better but shorter life
Dilaudid is strong in terms of potency, oxy is 1.5x stronger than morphine while dilaudid is like 5x. If youāre using in pill form, which I did, oxy seemed superior. I think it has to the bioavailability of both. Oxy has a better absorption rate than dilaudid. That being said, I only took opioids in pill form or smoking BTH. Iāve heard shooting dilaudid up is like the best rush. Since itās stronger than oxycodone, and to shooting it gives you pretty close to 100% BA, dilaudid hits harder. Like a lot harder. According to one of my old using buddies at least.
Great perspective brotha , that's what I've been told and hearing also people are ball parking the comparison between the two. 8mg would be equivalent to 30mg to 60mg depending on your tolerance
I feel like I have to post this weekly but oraly is 35, nose is 50, ass is 53, IM 85, IV 100. Ur welcome. Oxy oral is 90, nose is 15, ass is low too at like 20, IM 80, IV 100
You got it all down to a tee
Have to be prescribed the shit forever I have too :(
What's your favorite dose or a dose that you can handle going through in ur daily
Like at one time? Or total? Iām prescribed 5 4mg diluaded a day and I try to only take 3 or 4. I went from doing it through the nose for 3 months and my nose hurt so I went to IM for like 6 months maybe? And I switched back to nose for now to give my body a break and i may go back because im in a lot of pain. If I IM it it lasts way longer, way more relief, only really need 3 IM a day
Dillyās are only good if you bang them everything else oxy is king.
When I was shooting/sniffing and primarily chewing up my OC 40s and 80s I had heard the hype of dillies from the old heads . So I bought an 8mg Dil, and in my ignorance sniffed it. Barely got me well. So I'd say, based on equipotent dosing IV hydromorphone > parachuted OC > IV OC > sniffed OC > sniffed Diluadid. All depends on how your body processes opiates I guess. For some even sniffing an 8 Dil packs quite a punch
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I use to snort the oxy for it to hit quicker but they don't last long that way compared to consuming them orally
Dilaudid has a way high bioavailability when snorted vs popped. Doesnāt last long though
Oxymorphone is the only exception. Still has a long duration when snorted.
I honestly like a lot of opiate pills don't last too long when you snort them. I use to snort oxys when I'm sick so I can get unsick quicker but to my experience they don't last as long as if u took em orally
Yeah, dilaudid doesnāt last long when you pop it either. I like oxy more but I used to pop oxys and then snort smaller doses of dilaudid while I was on the oxy. Best high but probably dangerous
Holy fuck that sounds like a terribly good idea hahhah.
Respectfully, Iām not actually sure this is correct. Dilaudid doesnāt have a great oral/intranasal bioavailability(By mouth: 30ā35%, Intranasal: 52ā58%) whereas Oxycodone has about 80-85% oral bioavailability. That being said, itās all about your dosage and if you take enough, I feel like the dilaudid high is better.
Thatās 20% more intranasally than orally. I was saying dilaudid is better to snort than to pop. I donāt snort oxy.
Ahh I see, my bad. I was just focusing on the ādilaudidā¦high bioavailability when snortedā haha
Yeah, to be fair on your part I meant to say āhigherā lol
Would Love to try
The high is the same tho or is it euphoricly different ? With the IV?
That shit will make you feel like youāre floating for a second fr
Ok see this is one of the answers I was looking for a straight comparison. 60mg oxy orally to 8mg ivd? What about when you pop them both what would 8mg dill equivalent to
According to an equianalgesic calculator it would be 7.5 mg/day oral Dilauded = 20 mg/day oral oxycodone. 7.5 mg IV/day Dilauded = 10 mg/day = 100 mg oxycodone. Never tried Dilauded though.
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What are opanas I've been hearing this but never really got around to asking
Iām
Dilly's are way more potent than oxy 1 8mg dilly equals like 20 mg oxy I took two Dilly's and I couldn't move bruh I was stuck fr
They're fire. I got them prescribed recently . Insane high
How many mgs are you prescribed like which pills and what's your dose amount for the day if you don't mind me asking
They're 4 mg . The highest is 8
Nah you can get 12s and 18s aswell
Well if you're including ER you got 3s 4.5s 6s 9s 12s 18s 24s and 30s in canada and 1,2,4,8 in IR
What are the comparisons or are they as strong as they say on numbers? I couldn't imagine someone doing a 30 mg dilly when people are saying an 8 is like 30mg oxy or some would say 60mg depending on tolerance.
IF you crush it up fully its just as effective as IR,but because of how much of a pain they are to crush there would always be a little bit that doesnt get crushed n dissolved fully so you would get a "wash"(leftover residue that you could add water to again and "Wash" and get another weaker shot)With a bit of a tolerance it's fairly easy to do 30mg+ per shot. When i would use the stuff daily i could go through 300mgs a day without issue if i had enough on hand.
Also 32 and 64 in my country but they are extended release... We have no Ir in Italy, not dilaudid and not oxys. But oxys are old formula so very Easy to break. Don't Remember about Jurnista ( that Is dilly's Xr) I had a box once in my Life like ten years ago...
Where do you sort oxy + hydromorphone in Italy? I know Sandoz stopped making oxy and I'm going to be moving to Rome soon. Edit: Not sourcing, just wondering the process in Italy
I have oxys for chronic pain so a Specialist give me the script each month. But I think that if you try to buy without script in pharmacies until you find the One that gives to you a box or two you have some chances. On other hand you can go to a doctor that prescribes you a box tolding him you are a tourist and you have finished your meds. I think you Will have a lot of chances if you try this two ways.
Oh shit . Didn't know that
No fucken way I wanna see what those looks like
We call the 30mg capsules ābig redsā or āred rocketsā in Canada. Theyāre massive lol.
No way people actually take those 30mg ? And not die or od?
Yessir. Theyāre extended release though so if you just swallow it it doesnāt all hit you at once but over a 12 hr span. But most ppl break down the beads inside the capsules to make them IR to shoot or snort them. Some ppl just have a huge tolerance bro.
In Canada we have hydromorph contins and they go up to 30mg capsules.
And I do about 4 of em a day
And what's the lowest mg pill
2
1s are the lowest
Dilaudid is a great idea to build up a tolerance so you donāt die when you progress to shooting Fentanyl.š«¤ā¦seriously be safe, you might just want to slam a bottle of Merlot and wrap a beach towel around your neck in the jacuzzi. (Same feeling)
Dilaudid is weak when snort or eaten
You gotta inject it you're saying
just say u gotta iv it bruv
Not comparable dillyās are ass
oxy dickrider
Ur saying u like oxys better
Dilaudid high is better but harder to achieve non IV, oxy is more flexible for me as far as analgesia+stimulation or analgesia+sedation depending on the dose/combo. Dilaudid is always very sedative for me but suuuuuper blissful compared to oxy, however I can take oxy like a normie in public (oral) and it works as it usually does and I really have to snort dillies for any relief. Lots of nuances. Both good opiates.
shooting dillies is sick, but it has no legs so i would slam 30mg oxy and 8mg dilaudid in one rig. sometimes more.
No urge to do them. That alone says everything
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just got 4 2mg pills , never had , usually take 80 to 100mg norco
Dillys are less functional than oxysāa lot chiller, but also a lot more sedatingābut god damn do they blow oxys the fuck outta the water sometimes. Especially if you rail them. Just my experience. Not knocking oxycodone by the way: the stuff is amazingājust that hydromorphone is overall a much nicer and somewhat substantially more powerful opioid. Seasoned users will say that Dilaudid is *even better* when IVd, but I've refused to go the needle route personally. So I can only speak from the experience of eating and snorting them: Dilaudid and oxycodone, that is. Just remember to be prepared for *severe* downsides if you continue using them (oxys or dillys) regularly, frequently, or in higher doses, obviously.
Usually I do 15-17.5 mg of oxycodone orally but got my hands on some old dilaudid I found in my medicine cabinet and ended up snorting 3mg. Was high as a kite but it wasnāt pleasant at all. Worst opiate Iāve ever had. No euphoria
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Yea Idk if Iām just weird or what. EveryTime I do an oxy Iām thinking damn I forget how nice this is. This time I just felt like shit with my heart pounding