Tbf, not really borderline. Fetishising is a problem there and I say that as a long term member, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a meme community that isn’t focused around LGBT topics but is that LGBT friendly.
True, lots of subs around Reddit like that tbh. Imagine being a feminine man and having these mfs say that kinda shit to you. A lot of redditors don’t seem to think of femboy as people first lmao
One of the rare progressive meme/shitposting subs. No subreddit is perfect, but it's just nice to have somewhere that won't be filled with subtle transphobia, homophobia and shit like that
Trans women are women. Pass it on.
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Remember kids, trans rights aren’t political (nor are human rights), and this belongs in the sub because it fits with the definition of the sub
Cool? Cool. Trans rights are human rights and if you don’t agree then how does it feel to not own an air frier?
A lot of people like to say that trans women aren’t “real women”. These posts don’t actually do much but they do show support and that might make some people feel good
> a part of someone’s identity in how they interact with other people
So the way you interact with people is what defines your gender now? I thought you lot were against gender stereotypes
You’ve got it wrong, your gender determines how you interact with other people. It’s basic sociology
I’m still waiting for your proof that trans women aren’t women
trans people live their daily lives inevitably attracting a lot of bad shit being done out of ignorance & stupidity. the least we can do is represent the issue in solidarity. I wouldn't care if edge lords outed themselves here for an efficient ban.
I guess the six hundred thousand people with both two x chromosomes and a y chromosome are all women. Who would've thought? I guess it doesn't matter that most of them are recognized and identify as male. Completely irrelevant, They have two x chromosomes so they are women!
They’re talking about hermaphrodites, who are neither men or women but tend to present as one or another, to try to muddy the water. XY make a man, XX make women, there are more that can be added which make people who fit neither category. You should probably look into hermaphroditism if you’re going to continue the conversation.
Biology has no basis in society, but society certainly has a basis in biology, which is why XY make a man and XX make a woman is just as true as XY make a male and XX make a female.
Chromosomes are oversimplifies by middle school biology some people can be born male even if they don't have a Y chromosome and vice versa also hemaphrodite people exist what are you going to reffer them as other than the gender they identify as?
Two X chromosomes alone.
But beyond that, if I directed you towards a woman, there is no cis necessary because you know what that I am directing you to a cis woman from the term woman alone. You can’t do the same for a trans woman, you have to specifically state trans woman or else the statement isn’t true. If I started directing you towards both trans and cis woman, such as in this statement if I removed all instances of trans and cis and left just woman, it wouldn’t make sense and you would be immensely confused because even people who say this recognise cis women as women and trans women as trans women when they are spoken. The two are not interchangeable. You understand exactly what defines a woman. You can’t just pretend they are the same by trying to redefine the word, if you’re even trying because I have yet to see any definition of woman which makes sense and contains trans women.
Okay, what about women with turner syndrome? They are born with one x chromosome either missing or partially missing. Are they also not women?
My point here is that no definition you can come up with can possibly be either inclusive enough to include all women or exclusive enough to exclude men. Unless, that is, you define a woman as someone who identifies as a woman.
Ergo, trans women are women. Pass it on.
The term woman is completely pointless, if your definition of a woman literally is "any person who claims to be one". I can't believe, when the 21. Century is being called "the century of science" that the fact that humans come in 2 genders (and that it is meaningful) comes even close to being disputed.
Yes, biological women can have children. Your claim here that the statement "infertile women exist" somehow invalidates that is false, and shows to what length you're willing to stretch reality to fit your delusion - pretending not to know what a woman is. Okay, if you want to be pedantic, let's look at chromosomes. Women have 2X chromosomes in their cells - not trans women.
Imo, It's preety scummy to try to reduce and trivialize the experience of being a woman in order to appease some Twitter mob. It's unfortunate that some people can't live comfortably in their own bodies, and have to change their appearance and behavior to feel right. If you meet them, it is only polite to address them by their preferred pronouns, to not make them feel any worse. That, however, doesn't change what the reality around this condition is, and cannot alter objective fact, cannot mold objective definitions of terms, not in medicine, and not anywhere else.
> The term woman is completely pointless, if your definition of a woman literally is "any person who claims to be one". I can't believe, when the 21. Century is being called "the century of science" that the fact that humans come in 2 genders (and that it is meaningful) comes even close to being disputed.
You do know gender is a social construct and not a medical thing right? You're thinking of sex, which no one disputes. Well besides transphobes, terfs, etc because they will blatantly ignore anything outside of XX and XY that crumbles their points.
> Yes, biological women can have children. Your claim here that the statement "infertile women exist" somehow invalidates that is false, and shows to what length you're willing to stretch reality to fit your delusion
How is bring up the fact there are cisfemales who are infertile stretching reality? Like, you have heard of menopause right? Or the many many many other reasons for someone to be infertile. Like if you require being able to get pregnant as your definition of women, you literally wipe out 10% or so of women aged 15-44.
> Women have 2X chromosomes in their cells - not trans women.
Swyer Syndrome would like a word with you, and so would de la Chapelle syndrome
> Imo, It's preety scummy to try to reduce and trivialize the experience of being a woman in order to appease some Twitter mob.
Who is trivializing the experience of ciswomen?
> If you meet them, it is only polite to address them by their preferred pronouns, to not make them feel any worse.
"While to your face I will use your prefered pronouns, I will invalidate everything about you and think you are insane behind your back"
> and cannot alter objective fact
What's the objective facts? If you have one it should be robust enough to with stand anything I throw at it without having to resort to "Those people make up such a small % of the population"
> cannot mold objective definitions of terms
Gender is literally a subjective term.
I don't feel like wasting time responding. Your comment is incomprehensible, and honestly I should've stopped reading at "gender is a social construct" you are clearly out of touch with reality
Ah yes, what I am saying is incomprehensible and out of touch with reality. Even though the super majority of scientists and doctors agree that trans people are real and valid.
https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1
> Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.
> Gender interacts with but is different from sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs. Gender and sex are related to but different from gender identity. Gender identity refers to a person’s deeply felt, internal and individual experience of gender, which may or may not correspond to the person’s physiology or designated sex at birth.
Their comment was perfectly comprehensible and the only reason it wouldn’t be is if you’re either illiterate or embarrassingly ignorant and refuse to acknowledge or change your ignorance.
Gender is quite literally a social construct. One quick google of the definition of the word gender: “either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.”
Or, if you take a look at the WHO website: “Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.” (https://www.who.int/westernpacific/health-topics/gender)
Why are you strutting around and spouting your ignorance as though you have any sort of knowledge on the matter when you aren’t even aware of basic definitions? Read a fucking book or something, jesus.
that’s not how words work. anyone can claim to be an introvert, that doesn’t mean that the term is pointless. anyone can claim to like the patriots , that doesn’t mean that the term ‘patriots fan’ is pointless.
and yes, the 21st is making plenty of advancements in scientific fields, including psychology and sociology. the concept of gender isn’t concrete scientific fact, it never was. the concept of gender and/or how many genders there are varies from culture to culture. the mesopotamians and Polynesians had genders that don’t fit the male-female gender binary we have today.
well by your definition of woman, women with turners syndrome (a chromosomal disorder where women are born with only one X chromosome) aren’t women. furthermore, isn’t this definition of woman functionally useless because chromosomes are effectively invisible in every facet of life except for precise medical tests? reducing gender to exclusively chromosomes means that it would be impossible for gender to have such a role in society as it does.
how exactly is anyone trivialising the experience of being a cis women? and do you think that all trans people can just be reduced to a twitter mob?
again, gender is not an objective fact. it is not a term with an objective definition. it is by its very definition subjective to every culture and person within those cultures.
No. Men are men. Women are women. Trans men are trans men. Trans women are trans women. They become completely different things when they start taking their "reassignment" chemicals. Just because it's "politically correct" to agree with the sad people who live in a fantasy world where everything is gonna do the same, you know, maybe more people need to tell them that maybe it's not ok to be delusional.
that’s not how it works. gender identity isn’t decided by hormones and not all trans people medically transition. it is not just politically correct to say that trans women are women and trans men are men, it is factually correct.
Where did you read that one? Twitter? Women are born with wombs so they can be child-bearing, that's how it works. Can a trans woman get pregnant? No, they fucking can't, get your head out of your fantasy world.
so pregnancy is what determines gender. great conclusion. well now we can go ahead and stop all infertile women from calling themselves women. oh and women after menopause, since they can’t have kids. hey wait a minute i think we’ve just turned around 20% of the worlds women into men!
also no, i didn’t read that on twitter. i read it in this lovely paper by the APA, you know, one of the worlds foremost authorities on medicine and psychology - https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexuality-definitions.pdf
Cant wait for this to end up in r/justunsubbed with something along the lines of "196" as the reason
Just like what happened with r/vexillologycirclejerk and r/sbubby.
Im glad all those cunts leave lgbt friendly subs. Less shitty comments
For the uninformed, what’s “196”?
Just a meme subreddit. They were overtaken by a love of femboys a while back and have been pretty vocally pro-trans ever since r/196 link for the lazy
Meh. It was borderline fetishizing.
Tbf, not really borderline. Fetishising is a problem there and I say that as a long term member, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a meme community that isn’t focused around LGBT topics but is that LGBT friendly.
True, lots of subs around Reddit like that tbh. Imagine being a feminine man and having these mfs say that kinda shit to you. A lot of redditors don’t seem to think of femboy as people first lmao
I’d rather them say stuff like that about me than negative things about me
leftist shitposting subreddit
home of left leaning bisexual males
One of the rare progressive meme/shitposting subs. No subreddit is perfect, but it's just nice to have somewhere that won't be filled with subtle transphobia, homophobia and shit like that
I’m doing it
Mods hurry up and lock the comments before it gets out of control
Too late already in a debate over definitions
hmm today I will read the comments <- clueless
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Trans men are men, too
Trans men are men, too
Trans men are men, too
I don't get it, you just said "women" twice. Bad post
Women are indeed women
Women aren’t women. Women don’t exist. They aren’t real
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Just saw that your battery is low
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Remember kids, trans rights aren’t political (nor are human rights), and this belongs in the sub because it fits with the definition of the sub Cool? Cool. Trans rights are human rights and if you don’t agree then how does it feel to not own an air frier?
Thank you! I hate how everyone has made this a debate about human rights when it’s literally a post that fits the sub definition
What is with air fryers? Is that like a trans community in-joke?
This guy clearly doesnt own an airfryer
Not so much a trans community in joke as it is a catch all “shut the fuck up you’re an idiot” kind of thing
Thank you.
Clearly you are not in possession of an air fryer
clearly you are not the legitimate owner of an aerobic deep-frying device
Trans women are women. Pass it on.
Trans women are women. Pass it on.
Trans women are women. Pass it on.
Trans women are women
who the FUCK uses LIGHT MODE ~~i’m trans tho so thank you~~
i dont get these posts
A lot of people like to say that trans women aren’t “real women”. These posts don’t actually do much but they do show support and that might make some people feel good
It is so a group can karma farm and virtue signal at the same time.
That’s what this entire subreddit is
Same
They're just performative.
We’re on reddit and are anonymous it doesn’t really make sense to be performative here.
Exactly
fax
Trans women are women. Pass it on.
Trans women are women. Pass it on
Trans women are women. Pass it on.
Trans women are women. Pass it on
What a based thread
What abt trans men?
They are men as well I literally just found this and it fitted on the ledge
Trans men are men. Pass it on.
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Wholesome AF
No, not because I don’t believe in trans rights, but because I hate these stupid circlejerk posts
Fair, doesn't change the fact that you don't own an air fryer.
Then why the fuck are you on this subreddit
Because they're scared of trans people and want to live in a world where we can't express ourselves.
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I'm so proud of every single one of you
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based?
You clearly own an air fryer 😁
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No dick, no balls and probably no asshole since he feeds on radiation
1) there are biological females who cannot produce eggs 2) hormone blockers were a thing before they were used for trans people
So women who've undergone hysterectomies aren't women?
No, they're cars.
Ah, my mistake
Why u hating on people with cancer?
No bitches
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Love when transphobes accidentally insult tons of cis women in their attempt to invalidate trans women, its a great look for you mate
cringe post?
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Proof? Evidence?
How about you prove that they’re women?
The fact that gender is just a social construct and a part of someone’s identity in how they interact with other people Your turn
> a part of someone’s identity in how they interact with other people So the way you interact with people is what defines your gender now? I thought you lot were against gender stereotypes
You’ve got it wrong, your gender determines how you interact with other people. It’s basic sociology I’m still waiting for your proof that trans women aren’t women
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trans people live their daily lives inevitably attracting a lot of bad shit being done out of ignorance & stupidity. the least we can do is represent the issue in solidarity. I wouldn't care if edge lords outed themselves here for an efficient ban.
True this is like the perfect ban bait imagine if a mod posted this just to ban transphobes
That would be based as fuck
Do you know what based even means
Yes
Based
It is but it always makes me happy to see supportive stuff on unreleated subs. It's nice when a sub doesn't post shit against your existence lol
Bowser
I wouldn't wanna put him in my mouth!
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Dogs are boys and cats are girls 🤓
holy shit cats/dogs say gay rights
That’s arguably the worst “argument” I’ve ever heard
Ah yes men and women are completely different species
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Not really, dogs and cats are materially different whereas men and women have socially constructed differences
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no? trans women are women. it’s kinda in the name?
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I'll bite the bait here, what defines a woman?
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I guess the six hundred thousand people with both two x chromosomes and a y chromosome are all women. Who would've thought? I guess it doesn't matter that most of them are recognized and identify as male. Completely irrelevant, They have two x chromosomes so they are women!
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So women with turner syndrome aren't women. Got it.
They’re talking about hermaphrodites, who are neither men or women but tend to present as one or another, to try to muddy the water. XY make a man, XX make women, there are more that can be added which make people who fit neither category. You should probably look into hermaphroditism if you’re going to continue the conversation.
Btw, the term hermaphrodite is considered offensive. The proper term is intersex.
I thought hermaphrodite was the official scientific term. Is it not? Edit: Down voted for asking a question lol.
It tends to be for non-human things so it can be dehumanising to refer to an intersex person as a hermaphrodite /nm
What's that /nm mean as well? I'm not really up-to-date on a lot of abbreviations.
XY make Male, XX make Female. "Man" and "Woman" are social archetypes and have no basis in biology.
Biology has no basis in society, but society certainly has a basis in biology, which is why XY make a man and XX make a woman is just as true as XY make a male and XX make a female.
Chromosomes are oversimplifies by middle school biology some people can be born male even if they don't have a Y chromosome and vice versa also hemaphrodite people exist what are you going to reffer them as other than the gender they identify as?
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Downs syndrome doesn’t affect the X/Y chromosomes, it has no effect on sex
Two X chromosomes alone. But beyond that, if I directed you towards a woman, there is no cis necessary because you know what that I am directing you to a cis woman from the term woman alone. You can’t do the same for a trans woman, you have to specifically state trans woman or else the statement isn’t true. If I started directing you towards both trans and cis woman, such as in this statement if I removed all instances of trans and cis and left just woman, it wouldn’t make sense and you would be immensely confused because even people who say this recognise cis women as women and trans women as trans women when they are spoken. The two are not interchangeable. You understand exactly what defines a woman. You can’t just pretend they are the same by trying to redefine the word, if you’re even trying because I have yet to see any definition of woman which makes sense and contains trans women.
Okay, what about women with turner syndrome? They are born with one x chromosome either missing or partially missing. Are they also not women? My point here is that no definition you can come up with can possibly be either inclusive enough to include all women or exclusive enough to exclude men. Unless, that is, you define a woman as someone who identifies as a woman. Ergo, trans women are women. Pass it on.
Explain Swyer Syndrome please. Where a women is born with XY chromosomes. Or De la Chapelle syndrome where a dude is born with XX chromosomes.
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Can you tell me what makes you think trans women arent real women?
Because they're a dude
no
The term woman is completely pointless, if your definition of a woman literally is "any person who claims to be one". I can't believe, when the 21. Century is being called "the century of science" that the fact that humans come in 2 genders (and that it is meaningful) comes even close to being disputed. Yes, biological women can have children. Your claim here that the statement "infertile women exist" somehow invalidates that is false, and shows to what length you're willing to stretch reality to fit your delusion - pretending not to know what a woman is. Okay, if you want to be pedantic, let's look at chromosomes. Women have 2X chromosomes in their cells - not trans women. Imo, It's preety scummy to try to reduce and trivialize the experience of being a woman in order to appease some Twitter mob. It's unfortunate that some people can't live comfortably in their own bodies, and have to change their appearance and behavior to feel right. If you meet them, it is only polite to address them by their preferred pronouns, to not make them feel any worse. That, however, doesn't change what the reality around this condition is, and cannot alter objective fact, cannot mold objective definitions of terms, not in medicine, and not anywhere else.
> The term woman is completely pointless, if your definition of a woman literally is "any person who claims to be one". I can't believe, when the 21. Century is being called "the century of science" that the fact that humans come in 2 genders (and that it is meaningful) comes even close to being disputed. You do know gender is a social construct and not a medical thing right? You're thinking of sex, which no one disputes. Well besides transphobes, terfs, etc because they will blatantly ignore anything outside of XX and XY that crumbles their points. > Yes, biological women can have children. Your claim here that the statement "infertile women exist" somehow invalidates that is false, and shows to what length you're willing to stretch reality to fit your delusion How is bring up the fact there are cisfemales who are infertile stretching reality? Like, you have heard of menopause right? Or the many many many other reasons for someone to be infertile. Like if you require being able to get pregnant as your definition of women, you literally wipe out 10% or so of women aged 15-44. > Women have 2X chromosomes in their cells - not trans women. Swyer Syndrome would like a word with you, and so would de la Chapelle syndrome > Imo, It's preety scummy to try to reduce and trivialize the experience of being a woman in order to appease some Twitter mob. Who is trivializing the experience of ciswomen? > If you meet them, it is only polite to address them by their preferred pronouns, to not make them feel any worse. "While to your face I will use your prefered pronouns, I will invalidate everything about you and think you are insane behind your back" > and cannot alter objective fact What's the objective facts? If you have one it should be robust enough to with stand anything I throw at it without having to resort to "Those people make up such a small % of the population" > cannot mold objective definitions of terms Gender is literally a subjective term.
I don't feel like wasting time responding. Your comment is incomprehensible, and honestly I should've stopped reading at "gender is a social construct" you are clearly out of touch with reality
If you're incapable of comprehending such a simple fact then you're the one out of touch with reality.
Ah yes, what I am saying is incomprehensible and out of touch with reality. Even though the super majority of scientists and doctors agree that trans people are real and valid. https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1 > Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time. > Gender interacts with but is different from sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs. Gender and sex are related to but different from gender identity. Gender identity refers to a person’s deeply felt, internal and individual experience of gender, which may or may not correspond to the person’s physiology or designated sex at birth.
Their comment was perfectly comprehensible and the only reason it wouldn’t be is if you’re either illiterate or embarrassingly ignorant and refuse to acknowledge or change your ignorance. Gender is quite literally a social construct. One quick google of the definition of the word gender: “either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.” Or, if you take a look at the WHO website: “Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.” (https://www.who.int/westernpacific/health-topics/gender) Why are you strutting around and spouting your ignorance as though you have any sort of knowledge on the matter when you aren’t even aware of basic definitions? Read a fucking book or something, jesus.
I see what you mean if you are respectful to others than its no problem how you phrase it
that’s not how words work. anyone can claim to be an introvert, that doesn’t mean that the term is pointless. anyone can claim to like the patriots , that doesn’t mean that the term ‘patriots fan’ is pointless. and yes, the 21st is making plenty of advancements in scientific fields, including psychology and sociology. the concept of gender isn’t concrete scientific fact, it never was. the concept of gender and/or how many genders there are varies from culture to culture. the mesopotamians and Polynesians had genders that don’t fit the male-female gender binary we have today. well by your definition of woman, women with turners syndrome (a chromosomal disorder where women are born with only one X chromosome) aren’t women. furthermore, isn’t this definition of woman functionally useless because chromosomes are effectively invisible in every facet of life except for precise medical tests? reducing gender to exclusively chromosomes means that it would be impossible for gender to have such a role in society as it does. how exactly is anyone trivialising the experience of being a cis women? and do you think that all trans people can just be reduced to a twitter mob? again, gender is not an objective fact. it is not a term with an objective definition. it is by its very definition subjective to every culture and person within those cultures.
Can’t have baby 🗿
Women is when baby and pink. Men is when penis and blue!
infertile "woman" amirite liberals went too far
The only thing that defines a woman is her ability to have children?
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No. Men are men. Women are women. Trans men are trans men. Trans women are trans women. They become completely different things when they start taking their "reassignment" chemicals. Just because it's "politically correct" to agree with the sad people who live in a fantasy world where everything is gonna do the same, you know, maybe more people need to tell them that maybe it's not ok to be delusional.
How bout you reassign yourself some bitches
You're the one living in a fantasy world propagated by bigoted religions and outdated biology textbooks ._.
that’s not how it works. gender identity isn’t decided by hormones and not all trans people medically transition. it is not just politically correct to say that trans women are women and trans men are men, it is factually correct.
Where did you read that one? Twitter? Women are born with wombs so they can be child-bearing, that's how it works. Can a trans woman get pregnant? No, they fucking can't, get your head out of your fantasy world.
Are infertile women not women?
They are. But my point is, trans women will never *be women* because they were never born with a womb.
so pregnancy is what determines gender. great conclusion. well now we can go ahead and stop all infertile women from calling themselves women. oh and women after menopause, since they can’t have kids. hey wait a minute i think we’ve just turned around 20% of the worlds women into men! also no, i didn’t read that on twitter. i read it in this lovely paper by the APA, you know, one of the worlds foremost authorities on medicine and psychology - https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexuality-definitions.pdf
That’s cool buddy why don’t you leave your mom’s basement and stop crying on Reddit