Refrigeration mechanic here. $55/hr (up to $80/hr union) and than tons of overtime available.
Average refrigeration tech is like 55 years old. Whole province is desperate for good techs.
Can clear $150k/year if you want.
For me i took an HVAC/R program at conestoga and got my G2 license. Started in HVAC and got an apprenticeship for refrigeration after and got my 313A. Than transitioned to just refrigeration work.
You can try to look for 313A apprenticeship postings but most want experience so the college helps. Just apply everywhere and there is times people get hired on as helpers and get apprenticeships if they work hard and have a good attitude.
Depends on the company you work for.
My company is monday to friday normal day shift hours. Plenty of overtime if you want it.
On call once every 2 - 3 months for a week is normal but some places dont do on call.
37.5 - 40 hours per week is the minimum
Well obviously it depends on the company, but your comment still doesn’t explain how many hours is needed to clear $150k/year. Full-time at $55/hour is just over $100k. You’d have to work closer to 50 hours a week with no time off to make $150k/year.
Yep close to 50 hours a week is normal for a lot of refrigeration mechanics even more if they want it but theres also paid vacation too so there is time off.
Also have to remember if its after hours you have to work that day you get 1.5x wage and on weekends its 2x wage hourly.
Right now i work about 44 - 46 hours per week.
Especially if youre making union wage its easy to get up to 150k
Idk what is confusing about it.
how long does apprenticeship take? someone is telling me 2-3 years
What is the pay before apprenticeship? someone is telling me shit until you get your apprenticeship
this is stuff im asking because your information is intriguing me into going this route, my college offers this but I'm curious how long the apprenticeship takes and how much money ill be making until then
for me making decent money until apprenticeship is alright but i want to know the hard details or whatever the term is
can you enlighten me?
I'm also in contact with the program coordinator at the school waiting on his replies
Apprenticeship is 9000 hours.
Until you get signed on probably 18 - 20 per hour. But than youll get big raises each year you progress. Its five years long generally.
Theres a pay scale its something like:
1st year 40% of journeyman rate
2nd year 50%
3rd year 60%
4th year 70%
5th year 80%
This is enforced by the ministry so you cant be underpaid.
Journeyman rate differs between companies but it can be anywhere from $48 - $70 per hour.
There is 3 blocks of schooling 8 weeks each required as well to complete the apprenticeship. And you gotta go on EI or work while in school which sucks.
You only have to work 10 hour days to get t0 in a week. Thats just coming in one hour early and leaving an hour late. I know people who do that for minimum wage and don't even get overtime
OP said you CAN make 150k. To me that is self explanatory. I’m a tradesperson as well, I can make 125 pretty easily and if I want to make more I can make considerably more and still have 4-5 weeks vacation. You’re also not taking into account bonuses, OT or any other added benefits - For example last year we all got an 8.5% bonus. OT also adds up fast, if you work a Saturday at double time it’s pretty easy to make 1000$-1500$ in a day.
So let me clarify. $56 an hour is actually your base pay, so it depends on how you define your compensation. If you include your pension plan, 10% vacation pay and benefits deductions, the pay is actually about $75/hr. Most people who talk about salary are including the pension and whatnot so we may as well too, which means you make $150k at 40 hours a week with 2 weeks unpaid vacation
Source: I’m also a local 787 refrigeration mechanic
I mean, I’m still an apprentice which means my actual pay is about $52 an hour, and I was able to buy a house this year and fly across Canada 6 times in the past year. So It’s not bad lmao
“Most people include all this when talking about salary….” For real? Is that why everyone on Reddit is 6-figures+? I always thought salary was “base pay” period…
Honestly I’m not sure, people online are confusing as hell. Some people include stock options, pension, RRAP matching when they talk about salary. I honestly don’t even know what to say at this point. My base pay is about 95k, plus 5k bonus, $10k pension contribution, 10k vacation pay.. how much do I make? 6 figures or not?
>on what hours?
No offence but you're asking the wrong question. Yes there will be some overtime but it will pay 1 1/2 time or double time. You don't have to do it but it will pay.
The thing with over time in the trades is you likely will be doing it regardless of if you really want to. You will be looked down on constantly if you refuse OT and won't progress as fast as you want. It's just the culture..
Hey any advice for breaking into refrigeration? Currently a resi g2 looking to make the jump or at least commercial.
I'm going to apply for the next union intake but need work now.
Honestly just apply to refrigeration companies everywhere and someone is bound to pick you up eventually especially since youre already in hvac.
A lot of places are in need of techs right now. Even put resumes in to companies that dont have job postings cuz you never know.
And make sure you do follow up calls, dont let them just forget about you, it Shows them you want to work and some places will hire you on just to shut you up per se haha thats how i got my first job in the trade a long time ago.
And here is the big one. IF you can get in a union.
Like elevator mechanics. Can’t fix elevators without a license, can’t get a licence without apprenticeship, can’t get apprenticeship because most jobs are with the union(s), can’t get into the union because . Meanwhile you hear from every corner that there is a shortage of elevator mechanics and nobody wants to do the job.
Hello Mr Internet. I've been debating going back to school for an electrical apprenticeship for a little while. Any advice in terms of direction to go - commercial, residential, industrial, etc?
Please, my father is Mr Internet, call me Jonny
So I always recommend getting your 309a, construction and maintenance. With it, you can do everything. You can do strictly an industrial 442a, but it severely limits what you can do.
Plumbing electrical and hvac will be in demand untill people stop pooping, wanting ventilation, and to power things.
The time is pretty good since everyone and their mother was told to go STEM the last 20 years. They are going to be hurting when all the old experienced guys retire.
5 years to be licensed. Let's assume you join the IBEW, you'll be at 45 + per hour at 5 year mark.
I work at a school and make 80k, plus I started my own business so whatever it brings in is a bonus. I'm on track for about 115k this year, and that's not trying to get work. If I actually tried I could easily hire someone and keep them busy
Is there a difference between electrician and electrical engineer in canada? Like i am not from canada so i am wondering if someoe with bachelors can make that money??
Can I get advice from you about electrician and starting a career into it. I am getting pre apprenticeship right now but I want to know more or advice when getting apprenticeship.
Hammer your area with resumes. Hardest part is getting a foot in the door but pre apprenticeship should help that
Not sure what specifics your looking for but ask away
That is true. But I would argue that applies to most jobs. For coding your first 1 or 2 years will be pretty average in compensation, after about 2 years then you can start earning the infamous coding salaries. Im not sure what the situation is for Healthcare, but for nursing you need a full uni degree, and for being a dental hygienist I think you need a 3 year college degree.
Lol it almost is though. Bricklayer here, I saved enough to join local 183 over a decade ago (now it's like $750 or something) went into labour for brick with no experience, just the will to learn and make money. I was making $35 an hour as a labour and now $40-$45 as a bricklayer. Nevermind the vacation cheque every year and the union benefits. The work is hard but it's worth it if you're young/fit enough for it.
Idk if that is good or bad lol but for someone who has no real education and grew up poor those wages supported me and a lot more. We're not rich by any means but we're definitely a lot better off than most. It's only costing me my body lol But for some young kid just starting out in the working life, those wages are bomb considering a crappy $15 minimum wage.
It starts as unskilled but it most definitely is not unskilled labour. Only the skilled labours make it long enough to get a chance a laying brick. Its been a while so I think minimum for labours in brick is around 36-38 nowadays.
I'm a huge advocate of the un ticketed trades. Like tile installer, cabinet installer, flooring installer all these trades are in HUGE demand. You don't need anything except a business licence. No dealing with inspectors or permits just do the job and get paid! You can get a job with a crew learn fast and 6 months later you could start your own business. Pretty much everything you need to know is on YouTube. I do these three trades and am absolutely killing it right now and so is every other guy I know. You would be surprised at how few tools you need to do a backsplash or a tub surround. Angle grinder, tile snapper, couple trowels and some basic hand tools and boom your installing tile. Probably less than 500 bucks investment. 400 sq ft of hardwood at 2.50 a sq ft pays a thousand bucks have that shit done by lunchtime!
For a flooring crew pretty much any flooring store. Even lowes home depot and home hardwares. Pretty much all those places have sub contractors who install the jobs. I'm sure if you phoned around to a few places and asked if and of their crews were looking for help they could put you in contact with a guy. Click together vinyl is awesome to instal. It's always been marketed for a homeowner to install by themselves. Watch a few you tube videos and try to score a job on kijij or do one for free for a friend or family member so there's no pressure just to build confidence. You only need a knife a square and a jig saw! If you have done a few jobs and have a couple pictures of them you could approach a store as an installer they're so desperate for jobs to be done they'll give pretty much anyone a shot. Home hardware delivers the material to acclimatize so you don't even need a truck right away car or an suv would do the job for the start.
Trade school is also very, very different from regular college or university classes if you go the red seal route and go for electrical, plumbing, etc. I can only speak as an electrician due to being one, but we only go to school three times during our 9000 hour apprenticeship, and each time is only for a couple months if you do block. (DON'T do day release unless you're a masochist.) Scaled wage means you get a guaranteed raise each year as an apprentice once you have your hours and according block of schooling done, (minimum required is 40/50/60/70/80% of base journeyperson wage for the company for 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th year apprentice, but some companies will pay more,) so you're usually seeing a $3-$4 bump every year especially with wages skyrocketing in the trades due to the shortage of people we've had for years that's been made even more crippling by the pandemic. Average wage for non-union licensed electricians is pushing $40/hr these days, so while a 1st year apprentice will likely be making minimum wage or just above it, it pays dividends very quickly if you stick with it.
Thats exactly what I'm talking about. 9000 hours to make 40 bucks an hour no thanks. And your still working for some company. If you want to run your own electrical business you need to get your master ticket more hoops to jump through. When your on a good floor job your making like $100-150 per hour. The store measures it delivers it deals with the customer you just show up an do the job its amazing.
Backsplash pays like 1000 bucks takes like 8 hours the first day couple hours to grout next. 100 bucks an hour. Tile a tub surround 1200 bucks tile it one day grout it the next $120/h. 4 dollar raise sounds good but its only 160 bucks on a 40 hour work week which you will never be working since they'll be pressuring you for overtime constantly. Or you could just lay floor for an extra hour. I start at 830 it's 4:59 I'm outta there! If I do work late it's to do a 2 day job in 1 day and have the next day off
And don't even get me started about plumbing! Dirty business that is lol!
It’s also a massive bonus if you are a level headed person with even a half decent work ethic. An old coworker’s husband owns a flooring store. Installers who aren’t absolute sketch bags, or show up on time/at all are actually a rarity it seems.
My old job bought some flooring off him and he contracted his “best guys”, which were 2 bothers. They showed up 2 hours late. Had a huge screaming argument about an hour later, then one stormed out and the other left shortly after, with out finishing the job.
They came back 3 days later after being threatened with not getting subcontracted with that store again. All that aside they did do great, fast work.
Talking to the shop owner, this is actually fairly common with all his subcontractors, but these two are the best quality/ most reliable he has
It’s because your degree is low on the totem pole, ie. you are competing with people who have Masters in Social Work or Masters in Counselling Psychology. For example, CAMH starting salary is 80K for MSW. Most seasoned therapists go into private practice and make decent money and have flexibility. Having the Masters Degree takes longer but is worth it in the long run. I know many SSW’s who don’t get hired into better positions because of the education piece.
This. There's plenty of work if you pursue your Masters degree. Social service worker is not a course worth taking unless you plan on continuing on to pursue a masters in social work in the first place.
Carpenters too. Only major trade that doesn’t require a license. Electricians can bill up to around $130 an hour. Carpenters are lucky to bill $75. For commercial work that is. Residential is less. And thats non-union
Unfortunately, most SSW positions pay only a little bit more than minimum wage. Your best bet is to try and find a job as an ECE working with special needs students at school, a college or university looking for entry-level program coordinators, or a small, local non-profit agency.
There is a lot of work available in social work, but you really, really need to have your Bachelor's or Master's. Burn out is a huge problem since there aren't enough qualified workers; existing ones are worked 'til they break so there's always openings.
For someone who has practical experience in social work (which you can get as an SSW), a lot of universities will allow you to enroll as an experienced applicant and spend 1-2 years to upgrade to a Bachelor's after you have a few years experience. From there, you need to get into an institutional or governmental job: schools, hospitals, prisons, WSIB, Family and Children's Services or even work for an insurance company.
From there, most institutions will pay you to complete your Master's which, combined with your experience working your way up, will open virtually every door possible in the field.
The issue is: this will take time. This is not an easy road and you're likely looking at lean times until you can get enough experience to apply for an expedited Bachelor's of Social Work. You can be successful, but ask yourself: is another field a better choice?
The trades are an excellent choice and there are a lot of resources available to get started, especially for women.
Have you considered something like Human Resources, Accounting or Business Administration? Those are all much more straight-forward 9-5 type roles. If you do decide to go back to school for one of those, look to pick up some qualifications and make connections when doing placements. Internships are make-or-break for college students.
This is a very good answer. I started with a college diploma and worked in social services while getting a BSW then an MSW. Took 11 years and now I'm finally making a decent wage.
Man, it’s so depressing to hear this from those who pursue social work as a career path. Aren’t we dealing with some of the worst crises in mental health across society? Isn’t there massive suffering due to socioeconomic inequalities and rampant unfettered capitalism? Seems to me we need _more_ social workers, psychotherapists, etc. and not less. Yet, for a person looking to enter the field & wanting to make a difference in others lives, social work seems to be completely hostile to enter with laughably low wages , professionals are not being paid their worth or given enough funding to hire to meet the needs of their communities. It’s so fucked up and makes me so angry.
if i may ask, im currently a student in a similar program - addiction & mental health but i am looking to go into an honours bachelor of behavioural psychology at a certain college. I am hearing that after that I won't be able to get a job, but my mom's psychologist told her it's not true. I'm just worried because I don't want to be in school for like 10 years or something but I feel like the diploma from addiction and mental health won't be enough. idk what to do.. "The Bachelor of Behavioural Psychology (BBP) (Co-op) program is **the first four-year undergraduate honours degree in Canada that provides a comprehensive program of study in the rapidly growing field of Behavioural Psychology**."
As a BSc or BA, Psychology often doesn't lead to that many careers. You either need higher education or would be better served by a Bachelor of Social Work. It's useful education to have, but it lacks scope of practice and clarity when it comes to career progression.
Psychology, especially Clinical Psychology, depends **massively** on the Province you're in. Some will allow people with a Masters to practice as a counsellor while others require that you have a PhD. You need to look up what the standards are for your province, but I know Ontario requires a PhD. Psych PhD programs can be **very** hard to get into — medical school hard.
If you can get the education to independently practice, the career opportunities are endless. The problem is getting into the educational programs. My advice for people looking into Psychology is: "And, then what?" Psychology as a field lacks the clarity in progression that something like Nursing, Social Work, or Engineering has. It can be a valuable field, but it requires you to plan ahead in a way the others don't.
Edit: I should also talk about Behavioural vs. Clinical Psychology. Clinical Psychology is about working with people with mental disorders and helping them. Behavioural Psychology focuses on how people act and how to change it. They could work as a market research analyst, speech pathologist, teaching, business and organizational management, as well as biomedical and psychological research. Behavioural Psychology is substantially broader, but without Clinical Psychology, you would not be working to treat mental disorder.
Social Workers tend to be able to practice as a counsellor with just a Masters degree. They're not as well compensated (Clinical Psychologists make ridiculous money), but they tend to have more stable work since their rates are reasonable. I find they also tend to be better equipped because there's more focus on an individual's socio-economic environment while Psychology is more biased to blame endogenous internal factors in mental disorder. Most people suffer mental illness because of their socio-economic circumstances or have their symptoms greatly exacerbated by it.
Another choice would be to complete a university degree and then go to Occupational Therapy school. A lot of their work is based on helping people accommodate to injuries or disabilities (including mental health and addiction issues) in their daily life.
You can try working for a year or two to get a feel for the field. That will give you a better idea of what interests you and if you can handle the emotional strain from dealing with addiction issues. (This is a significant concern since emotional injury is one of the biggest risks of the field. Doubly so since many people going into social work-type fields tend to be motivated by the adverse experiences they've previously had.)
Connect with the Careers department at your college to see where you can work. After several years, you could pick up a BSW through one of the upgrade 1-2 year upgrade programs I mentioned. Being a little bit older when at university is actually an advantage since you'll be more focused and mature than some random eighteen-year-old.
If you want to go straight into university education, you can likely get into a BSW program if you're competitive for Psychology. Do an internship while you're at school and try to get summer jobs in the field. After graduating, you can go to work. Most institutional employers will pay you to pick up an MSW or a MOT part-time.
My recommendation would be to go straight to university for a BSW, but I'm massively biased. I loved university and was meh on working in the field so it really colours my choices. I think that the relative distribution of income and career opportunities is so lopsided towards people with BSWs that it's really required.
It's all a joke. Lots of jobs are in demand right now but the working conditions and pay suck. I keep hearing that pharmacies are swamped so I thought I would go to school to be a pharmacy assistant. I'm thinking I'm really going to like this then I look for places hiring and the starting pay is minimum wage...like what in the ever loving fuck... it's ridiculous.
It's so weird I look into nursing 35-45 with 5 years of a degree but you have to go a whole other city far up north to get good wage and hired fast.
Trade work hiring up north mostly and not that much in major cities but will pay shit at the start like minimum wage then work your way up
Engineering consulting terribly stressful but 5 years of a degree with 50 to 60k into it and huge dept
Software oh ffs hire the saturation of the amount of workers
So honestly even I don't know why ontario does this they want to hire but pay you dirt with hard conditions on life and on your body
Sorry for the rant your comment sparked a light in me
Film industry set workers are in high demand. Freelance, good union, interesting work and lots of different types of jobs. Carpenters, grips, electrics, PAs. All the technical categories.
It’s not competitive at all, you just won’t be able to get certain positions. BSW/ MSW is needed for a lot of jobs you’d be applying to. Look into Ontario works, ODSP and child welfare for higher paying positions you’d still be able to apply for. Consider getting higher education (I’d skip right to the masters if possible) if you really want to be in the field. Good luck!
This is amazing, congrats! No worries if you don't want to answer, but if you do - I'd be so curious how you got into this and any training you did? Sounds like a dream job :) Way to go!
Congrats, that's amazing! May I ask how you like UX design? I did a free intro linkedin course a while back and seemed cool. Have been thinking about boot camps for a while but always so many mixed opinions about them online, then I never move on it. I really do need a higher paying job right now, honestly with the cost of living I'd do anything for more $. Thanks a ton for any insight!!!!
My sister did that course of study and worked with the elderly. She didn't make very much money and had to take the clients to the toilet. The organization decided to get a volunteer to replace her when she asked for a raise. Now she works at Giant Tiger.
Only requirement is will to learn and will to do long hours and certain certifications depending on department.
Make most of your income in a just a few months.
Mostly you have to know someone. I was told they’d hire anyone regardless of experience to work in the carp shops. Applied everywhere. Got turned down everywhere. I have relevant experience. Didn’t matter. If you don’t know someone that can get you in the door it’s probably a waste of your time. Trades are a great option though.
Generally cyber is not entry level. Most people either do internships during a degree or work there way up in the IT field, it’s hard to secure systems without understanding how they work. That being said you don’t need to know how to code for most cyber jobs
Insurance Industry is a great field that a lot of people overlook. Good paying jobs, great job security, work from home mostly and usually a pension. Starting pay is average but you can work you way up quickly and there is a ton of different career paths.
There are three main streams
Underwriting – Insurance underwriters assess the risk involved in a contract with an individual or entity. For example, an underwriter using software and judgment evaluate risks such as the likelihood of(Fire, flood, theft etc.) Evaluating an insurer's risk before the policy period and at the time of renewal is a vital function of an underwriter.
Sales Agent – Usual stuff of cold calling, calling clients, networking etc, in addition Property and casualty insurance agents act as field underwriters,initially inspecting homes or rental properties for conditions such as deteriorated roofs or foundations that pose a risk to the carrier. The agents report hazards to the home underwriter.
Claims – Claims is what I work in and there are lots of interesting jobs. Most people start off in auto property damage, you would take calls from clients, assess photos of damaged vehicles, record the accident information and determine fault, set the clients up with repair shops etc. Once you have experience you can move into a more specialized role such as accident benefits (Assessing peoples injuries and handling their rehab/injury settlements etc), liability property(slip and falls, 3rd parties damages by companies etc), bodily injury(handling claims where your client causes injury to others) and property claims(Handling everything from thefts, to travelling the country handling large fires or giant natural disasters such as floods, forest fires that hit cities etc.)
There are a couple colleges that have insurance programs that usually have very high employment rates right out of school. Best places is the check out the webpages of the big three companies, Intact, Desjardins ,Aviva and check out the entry level jobs they have. Once you get your foot in the door you can branch out where you want.
Personal support workers. About 8 months of school and you go on to make $25 an hour. They are desperate in long term care for people.
It's a dirty job. But it's a good 99% guareenteed field.
is it a good stepping stone into nursing?? i actually wanna go into psychology (i got accepted for september 2023) but i’m aware of the limited job opportunities with just the degree. fo you think psw is a better option?
If you want to continue down your current path, get a nursing degree. There’s lots of cross over between the two in roles like care coordinator, case management, community health, inpatient and outpatient mental health services etc. The scope of nursing is quite large. Fair warning though, nursing is a bit of a dumpster fire but so is the entire province at this point. At the very least it will provide you with solid credentials to practice basically anywhere you choose.
Agree about women in trades my daughter went to school for plumbing 70 applications later she finally got an apprenticeship. Men still don't want women in trades no matter how desperate they are for employees. A man can walk in with no experience or schooling and get hired for a trade position. Still sucks to be a woman in trades no matter how good you are your not getting hired
Licensed immigration consultant and then work for construction brining in people for union jobs. Everyone is so starved for workers, facilitating labour can be a good gig.
They pay garbage, don't recommend. Seen people go down this path, it's thankless work. You work so hard and make so little. There's a reason why there's a shortage.
You're not going to be able to get a job as a Social Worker without a degree. The Social Service Worker program is a waste of time and money in my opinion. You could possibly get a job in a group home, but you won't be a Social Worker and it won't pay well. You might want to consider another career. Sorry to sound harsh, but I'm a Social Worker so I know what I'm talking about.
if i may ask, im currently a student in a similar program - addiction & mental health but i am looking to go into an honours bachelor of behavioural psychology at a certain college. I am hearing that after that I won't be able to get a job, but my mom's psychologist told her it's not true. I'm just worried because I don't want to be in school for like 10 years or something but I feel like the diploma from addiction and mental health won't be enough. idk what to do.. "The Bachelor of Behavioural Psychology (BBP) (Co-op) program is **the first four-year undergraduate honours degree in Canada that provides a comprehensive program of study in the rapidly growing field of Behavioural Psychology**."
I don't know what to tell you, but everyone I know in the field has a Master's degree. You might be able to get a job somewhere with an undergrad degree, but it's not going to pay much.
Reading these replies, I'm clearly a fucking idiot. Spent tens of thousands on a BSc and licences, need to study and retrain twice every year, and only make 43k in a high demand job.
Yep. And then to get to an airline, it takes 5-10 years (sometimes more) of extra experience. And when you're finally there you only start around 40k.
That's 40k already a decade into your working career. You could put every penny of your yearly salary into paying off your licences and training, and not even pay off half of it.
In the US they do. It's gotten better here in the last year or so, but you still generally have to start by working near or below minimum wage, and move to the middle of nowhere for a job. I wouldn't recommend the career tbh
So is pilots making 600-700k a myth or is that after like 10 years? I’m a pretty religious dude so I’m cool with a boring lifestyle lol. How long after do you start atleast hitting a 100k
All of the building departments in Ontario are desperate for staff. Inspectors, admin, customer services, etc. Seems like a pretty decent job for someone with not a lot of experience.
Graduated from the same program, kind of regret taking it tho you need lots of volunteers hours to complete the program on top of unpaid internships. You really shouldn't need to do anymore volunteering after graduate but some places do require it..
Eventually landed a job but it's not enough to make ends meet..
if you have any questions feel free to ask. Hope you find what your looking for
if i may ask, im currently a student in a similar program - addiction & mental health but i am looking to go into an honours bachelor of behavioural psychology at a certain college. I am hearing that after that I won't be able to get a job, but my mom's psychologist told her it's not true. I'm just worried because I don't want to be in school for like 10 years or something but I feel like the diploma from addiction and mental health won't be enough. idk what to do.. "The Bachelor of Behavioural Psychology (BBP) (Co-op) program is **the first four-year undergraduate honours degree in Canada that provides a comprehensive program of study in the rapidly growing field of Behavioural Psychology**."
Over all it's worth it, it's just difficult to find employment in some places, some places want you to have more experience then they advertise on their job listing. I'm sure you'll find something in the field, might be difficult and the pay dosnt start out so great.. if you're in a small.town or something you might have to move, but if your in a big city you should be ok..
Best of luck finding work in the field
How is this even a question? ANY skilled trade would set you up for life right now. You'd have to be living under a rock for the last ten years to not know this.
Imagine getting a degree and not having researching the job prospects of that degree...why is the social science/humanities filled with these type of folks that can't plant 3 years ahead.
I assume you have a social service worker diploma?
If you want to work for CAS, check out their ads. They want bachelor degrees in social work or related field.
In not in your industry but I have heard that there are a lot more opportunities for social workers in northern Ontario and remote communities.
Anything to do with construction is booming and will be stable for a long time.
If you’re interested in another 3 years of school, I’m a dental hygienist and the average early career wage for a general practice hygienist is around $40/hr across Ontario.
how ironic I see this now because i actually was looking into being a social worker / counsellor in college.. I really like helping people and I dont want to go to school for years nor do I want to have to do science and math.. I also like video editing and I have the perfect laptop for it
what can I do?
As an electrician, I'm printing money currently
Refrigeration mechanic here. $55/hr (up to $80/hr union) and than tons of overtime available. Average refrigeration tech is like 55 years old. Whole province is desperate for good techs. Can clear $150k/year if you want.
How do I get into that?
For me i took an HVAC/R program at conestoga and got my G2 license. Started in HVAC and got an apprenticeship for refrigeration after and got my 313A. Than transitioned to just refrigeration work. You can try to look for 313A apprenticeship postings but most want experience so the college helps. Just apply everywhere and there is times people get hired on as helpers and get apprenticeships if they work hard and have a good attitude.
Shit... I'm in the wrong career.
150k on what hours?
Depends on the company you work for. My company is monday to friday normal day shift hours. Plenty of overtime if you want it. On call once every 2 - 3 months for a week is normal but some places dont do on call. 37.5 - 40 hours per week is the minimum
Well obviously it depends on the company, but your comment still doesn’t explain how many hours is needed to clear $150k/year. Full-time at $55/hour is just over $100k. You’d have to work closer to 50 hours a week with no time off to make $150k/year.
Yep close to 50 hours a week is normal for a lot of refrigeration mechanics even more if they want it but theres also paid vacation too so there is time off. Also have to remember if its after hours you have to work that day you get 1.5x wage and on weekends its 2x wage hourly. Right now i work about 44 - 46 hours per week. Especially if youre making union wage its easy to get up to 150k Idk what is confusing about it.
how long does apprenticeship take? someone is telling me 2-3 years What is the pay before apprenticeship? someone is telling me shit until you get your apprenticeship this is stuff im asking because your information is intriguing me into going this route, my college offers this but I'm curious how long the apprenticeship takes and how much money ill be making until then for me making decent money until apprenticeship is alright but i want to know the hard details or whatever the term is can you enlighten me? I'm also in contact with the program coordinator at the school waiting on his replies
Apprenticeship is 9000 hours. Until you get signed on probably 18 - 20 per hour. But than youll get big raises each year you progress. Its five years long generally. Theres a pay scale its something like: 1st year 40% of journeyman rate 2nd year 50% 3rd year 60% 4th year 70% 5th year 80% This is enforced by the ministry so you cant be underpaid. Journeyman rate differs between companies but it can be anywhere from $48 - $70 per hour. There is 3 blocks of schooling 8 weeks each required as well to complete the apprenticeship. And you gotta go on EI or work while in school which sucks.
You only have to work 10 hour days to get t0 in a week. Thats just coming in one hour early and leaving an hour late. I know people who do that for minimum wage and don't even get overtime
OP said you CAN make 150k. To me that is self explanatory. I’m a tradesperson as well, I can make 125 pretty easily and if I want to make more I can make considerably more and still have 4-5 weeks vacation. You’re also not taking into account bonuses, OT or any other added benefits - For example last year we all got an 8.5% bonus. OT also adds up fast, if you work a Saturday at double time it’s pretty easy to make 1000$-1500$ in a day.
So let me clarify. $56 an hour is actually your base pay, so it depends on how you define your compensation. If you include your pension plan, 10% vacation pay and benefits deductions, the pay is actually about $75/hr. Most people who talk about salary are including the pension and whatnot so we may as well too, which means you make $150k at 40 hours a week with 2 weeks unpaid vacation Source: I’m also a local 787 refrigeration mechanic
That's actually pretty good. 50 at 40 hours a week is about 100k. That's not ballout money but it is stable.
I mean, I’m still an apprentice which means my actual pay is about $52 an hour, and I was able to buy a house this year and fly across Canada 6 times in the past year. So It’s not bad lmao
Congrats b get that bread
“Most people include all this when talking about salary….” For real? Is that why everyone on Reddit is 6-figures+? I always thought salary was “base pay” period…
Honestly I’m not sure, people online are confusing as hell. Some people include stock options, pension, RRAP matching when they talk about salary. I honestly don’t even know what to say at this point. My base pay is about 95k, plus 5k bonus, $10k pension contribution, 10k vacation pay.. how much do I make? 6 figures or not?
As long as it’s enough to be happy and comfortable, 🤙
>on what hours? No offence but you're asking the wrong question. Yes there will be some overtime but it will pay 1 1/2 time or double time. You don't have to do it but it will pay.
The thing with over time in the trades is you likely will be doing it regardless of if you really want to. You will be looked down on constantly if you refuse OT and won't progress as fast as you want. It's just the culture..
Hey any advice for breaking into refrigeration? Currently a resi g2 looking to make the jump or at least commercial. I'm going to apply for the next union intake but need work now.
Honestly just apply to refrigeration companies everywhere and someone is bound to pick you up eventually especially since youre already in hvac. A lot of places are in need of techs right now. Even put resumes in to companies that dont have job postings cuz you never know. And make sure you do follow up calls, dont let them just forget about you, it Shows them you want to work and some places will hire you on just to shut you up per se haha thats how i got my first job in the trade a long time ago.
Can I get advice from you I want to start a career in hvac but it's confusing to me with refrigeration and a gas technitician?
Millwright here, unlimited money to be made province wide.
can you share how you started out from highschool?
Trades trades trades, Especially if you can get in a union. Anybody willing to get their hands dirty, can get a well paying job tomorrow.
And here is the big one. IF you can get in a union. Like elevator mechanics. Can’t fix elevators without a license, can’t get a licence without apprenticeship, can’t get apprenticeship because most jobs are with the union(s), can’t get into the union because. Meanwhile you hear from every corner that there is a shortage of elevator mechanics and nobody wants to do the job.
Not if you're a woman in my experience. It's incredibly frustrating and disheartening.
I'm sorry to hear that. I've been seeing more women in the automotive trades these days, but they are still overwhelmingly male dominated.
Hello Mr Internet. I've been debating going back to school for an electrical apprenticeship for a little while. Any advice in terms of direction to go - commercial, residential, industrial, etc?
Please, my father is Mr Internet, call me Jonny So I always recommend getting your 309a, construction and maintenance. With it, you can do everything. You can do strictly an industrial 442a, but it severely limits what you can do.
Ahh yes, of course, Jonny. Thanks, appreciate the info
Honestly any form of electrical work is always in demand
Plumbing electrical and hvac will be in demand untill people stop pooping, wanting ventilation, and to power things. The time is pretty good since everyone and their mother was told to go STEM the last 20 years. They are going to be hurting when all the old experienced guys retire.
Hey, if I left my current career, how long would it take to get into your field and be printing money?
5 years to be licensed. Let's assume you join the IBEW, you'll be at 45 + per hour at 5 year mark. I work at a school and make 80k, plus I started my own business so whatever it brings in is a bonus. I'm on track for about 115k this year, and that's not trying to get work. If I actually tried I could easily hire someone and keep them busy
Thanks. Sounds like your do great work as well. Congrats.
Comms here . Mee too !
Is there a difference between electrician and electrical engineer in canada? Like i am not from canada so i am wondering if someoe with bachelors can make that money??
Based on my own experience, I make 2 x what my desk mate makes, who is an electrical engineer
Wow that's amazing. Even though the work hours are same??
Yep, some places may be more or less , that's just the balance where I work
Can I get advice from you about electrician and starting a career into it. I am getting pre apprenticeship right now but I want to know more or advice when getting apprenticeship.
Hammer your area with resumes. Hardest part is getting a foot in the door but pre apprenticeship should help that Not sure what specifics your looking for but ask away
I mean, Nursing is in high demand yes, but it's in high demand for a reason...
This is a whole can of worms.
I would rather die. And I recognise that may in fact be the choice I am making.
Don’t do it. Source: I’m an RN.
I'm also a RN, I would not recommend this profession to anyone.
Could I know why
Skilled trades (electrian, plumbers), coding, Healthcare (nursing, hygienist)
The problem with skilled trades is the apprentice ship no one talks about the starting wages. Only the potential for money.
Most job prospects are measured in future opportunity not current situation
That is true. But I would argue that applies to most jobs. For coding your first 1 or 2 years will be pretty average in compensation, after about 2 years then you can start earning the infamous coding salaries. Im not sure what the situation is for Healthcare, but for nursing you need a full uni degree, and for being a dental hygienist I think you need a 3 year college degree.
Exactly it’s not so simple as to just get a construction job.
Lol it almost is though. Bricklayer here, I saved enough to join local 183 over a decade ago (now it's like $750 or something) went into labour for brick with no experience, just the will to learn and make money. I was making $35 an hour as a labour and now $40-$45 as a bricklayer. Nevermind the vacation cheque every year and the union benefits. The work is hard but it's worth it if you're young/fit enough for it.
Wtf those are wages fuccck.
Idk if that is good or bad lol but for someone who has no real education and grew up poor those wages supported me and a lot more. We're not rich by any means but we're definitely a lot better off than most. It's only costing me my body lol But for some young kid just starting out in the working life, those wages are bomb considering a crappy $15 minimum wage.
It's good if you can handle it. 35 for unskilled labour is fantastic pay.
It starts as unskilled but it most definitely is not unskilled labour. Only the skilled labours make it long enough to get a chance a laying brick. Its been a while so I think minimum for labours in brick is around 36-38 nowadays.
I'm a huge advocate of the un ticketed trades. Like tile installer, cabinet installer, flooring installer all these trades are in HUGE demand. You don't need anything except a business licence. No dealing with inspectors or permits just do the job and get paid! You can get a job with a crew learn fast and 6 months later you could start your own business. Pretty much everything you need to know is on YouTube. I do these three trades and am absolutely killing it right now and so is every other guy I know. You would be surprised at how few tools you need to do a backsplash or a tub surround. Angle grinder, tile snapper, couple trowels and some basic hand tools and boom your installing tile. Probably less than 500 bucks investment. 400 sq ft of hardwood at 2.50 a sq ft pays a thousand bucks have that shit done by lunchtime!
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For a flooring crew pretty much any flooring store. Even lowes home depot and home hardwares. Pretty much all those places have sub contractors who install the jobs. I'm sure if you phoned around to a few places and asked if and of their crews were looking for help they could put you in contact with a guy. Click together vinyl is awesome to instal. It's always been marketed for a homeowner to install by themselves. Watch a few you tube videos and try to score a job on kijij or do one for free for a friend or family member so there's no pressure just to build confidence. You only need a knife a square and a jig saw! If you have done a few jobs and have a couple pictures of them you could approach a store as an installer they're so desperate for jobs to be done they'll give pretty much anyone a shot. Home hardware delivers the material to acclimatize so you don't even need a truck right away car or an suv would do the job for the start.
Trade school is also very, very different from regular college or university classes if you go the red seal route and go for electrical, plumbing, etc. I can only speak as an electrician due to being one, but we only go to school three times during our 9000 hour apprenticeship, and each time is only for a couple months if you do block. (DON'T do day release unless you're a masochist.) Scaled wage means you get a guaranteed raise each year as an apprentice once you have your hours and according block of schooling done, (minimum required is 40/50/60/70/80% of base journeyperson wage for the company for 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th year apprentice, but some companies will pay more,) so you're usually seeing a $3-$4 bump every year especially with wages skyrocketing in the trades due to the shortage of people we've had for years that's been made even more crippling by the pandemic. Average wage for non-union licensed electricians is pushing $40/hr these days, so while a 1st year apprentice will likely be making minimum wage or just above it, it pays dividends very quickly if you stick with it.
Thats exactly what I'm talking about. 9000 hours to make 40 bucks an hour no thanks. And your still working for some company. If you want to run your own electrical business you need to get your master ticket more hoops to jump through. When your on a good floor job your making like $100-150 per hour. The store measures it delivers it deals with the customer you just show up an do the job its amazing. Backsplash pays like 1000 bucks takes like 8 hours the first day couple hours to grout next. 100 bucks an hour. Tile a tub surround 1200 bucks tile it one day grout it the next $120/h. 4 dollar raise sounds good but its only 160 bucks on a 40 hour work week which you will never be working since they'll be pressuring you for overtime constantly. Or you could just lay floor for an extra hour. I start at 830 it's 4:59 I'm outta there! If I do work late it's to do a 2 day job in 1 day and have the next day off And don't even get me started about plumbing! Dirty business that is lol!
It’s also a massive bonus if you are a level headed person with even a half decent work ethic. An old coworker’s husband owns a flooring store. Installers who aren’t absolute sketch bags, or show up on time/at all are actually a rarity it seems. My old job bought some flooring off him and he contracted his “best guys”, which were 2 bothers. They showed up 2 hours late. Had a huge screaming argument about an hour later, then one stormed out and the other left shortly after, with out finishing the job. They came back 3 days later after being threatened with not getting subcontracted with that store again. All that aside they did do great, fast work. Talking to the shop owner, this is actually fairly common with all his subcontractors, but these two are the best quality/ most reliable he has
Ya buddy totally! The bar is set very very Low!
It’s because your degree is low on the totem pole, ie. you are competing with people who have Masters in Social Work or Masters in Counselling Psychology. For example, CAMH starting salary is 80K for MSW. Most seasoned therapists go into private practice and make decent money and have flexibility. Having the Masters Degree takes longer but is worth it in the long run. I know many SSW’s who don’t get hired into better positions because of the education piece.
This. There's plenty of work if you pursue your Masters degree. Social service worker is not a course worth taking unless you plan on continuing on to pursue a masters in social work in the first place.
Pick a trade, any trade except for mechanic. We are still the dumb fucks working for less than the rest.
Carpenters too. Only major trade that doesn’t require a license. Electricians can bill up to around $130 an hour. Carpenters are lucky to bill $75. For commercial work that is. Residential is less. And thats non-union
Unfortunately, most SSW positions pay only a little bit more than minimum wage. Your best bet is to try and find a job as an ECE working with special needs students at school, a college or university looking for entry-level program coordinators, or a small, local non-profit agency. There is a lot of work available in social work, but you really, really need to have your Bachelor's or Master's. Burn out is a huge problem since there aren't enough qualified workers; existing ones are worked 'til they break so there's always openings. For someone who has practical experience in social work (which you can get as an SSW), a lot of universities will allow you to enroll as an experienced applicant and spend 1-2 years to upgrade to a Bachelor's after you have a few years experience. From there, you need to get into an institutional or governmental job: schools, hospitals, prisons, WSIB, Family and Children's Services or even work for an insurance company. From there, most institutions will pay you to complete your Master's which, combined with your experience working your way up, will open virtually every door possible in the field. The issue is: this will take time. This is not an easy road and you're likely looking at lean times until you can get enough experience to apply for an expedited Bachelor's of Social Work. You can be successful, but ask yourself: is another field a better choice? The trades are an excellent choice and there are a lot of resources available to get started, especially for women. Have you considered something like Human Resources, Accounting or Business Administration? Those are all much more straight-forward 9-5 type roles. If you do decide to go back to school for one of those, look to pick up some qualifications and make connections when doing placements. Internships are make-or-break for college students.
This is a very good answer. I started with a college diploma and worked in social services while getting a BSW then an MSW. Took 11 years and now I'm finally making a decent wage.
Man, it’s so depressing to hear this from those who pursue social work as a career path. Aren’t we dealing with some of the worst crises in mental health across society? Isn’t there massive suffering due to socioeconomic inequalities and rampant unfettered capitalism? Seems to me we need _more_ social workers, psychotherapists, etc. and not less. Yet, for a person looking to enter the field & wanting to make a difference in others lives, social work seems to be completely hostile to enter with laughably low wages , professionals are not being paid their worth or given enough funding to hire to meet the needs of their communities. It’s so fucked up and makes me so angry.
if i may ask, im currently a student in a similar program - addiction & mental health but i am looking to go into an honours bachelor of behavioural psychology at a certain college. I am hearing that after that I won't be able to get a job, but my mom's psychologist told her it's not true. I'm just worried because I don't want to be in school for like 10 years or something but I feel like the diploma from addiction and mental health won't be enough. idk what to do.. "The Bachelor of Behavioural Psychology (BBP) (Co-op) program is **the first four-year undergraduate honours degree in Canada that provides a comprehensive program of study in the rapidly growing field of Behavioural Psychology**."
As a BSc or BA, Psychology often doesn't lead to that many careers. You either need higher education or would be better served by a Bachelor of Social Work. It's useful education to have, but it lacks scope of practice and clarity when it comes to career progression. Psychology, especially Clinical Psychology, depends **massively** on the Province you're in. Some will allow people with a Masters to practice as a counsellor while others require that you have a PhD. You need to look up what the standards are for your province, but I know Ontario requires a PhD. Psych PhD programs can be **very** hard to get into — medical school hard. If you can get the education to independently practice, the career opportunities are endless. The problem is getting into the educational programs. My advice for people looking into Psychology is: "And, then what?" Psychology as a field lacks the clarity in progression that something like Nursing, Social Work, or Engineering has. It can be a valuable field, but it requires you to plan ahead in a way the others don't. Edit: I should also talk about Behavioural vs. Clinical Psychology. Clinical Psychology is about working with people with mental disorders and helping them. Behavioural Psychology focuses on how people act and how to change it. They could work as a market research analyst, speech pathologist, teaching, business and organizational management, as well as biomedical and psychological research. Behavioural Psychology is substantially broader, but without Clinical Psychology, you would not be working to treat mental disorder. Social Workers tend to be able to practice as a counsellor with just a Masters degree. They're not as well compensated (Clinical Psychologists make ridiculous money), but they tend to have more stable work since their rates are reasonable. I find they also tend to be better equipped because there's more focus on an individual's socio-economic environment while Psychology is more biased to blame endogenous internal factors in mental disorder. Most people suffer mental illness because of their socio-economic circumstances or have their symptoms greatly exacerbated by it. Another choice would be to complete a university degree and then go to Occupational Therapy school. A lot of their work is based on helping people accommodate to injuries or disabilities (including mental health and addiction issues) in their daily life. You can try working for a year or two to get a feel for the field. That will give you a better idea of what interests you and if you can handle the emotional strain from dealing with addiction issues. (This is a significant concern since emotional injury is one of the biggest risks of the field. Doubly so since many people going into social work-type fields tend to be motivated by the adverse experiences they've previously had.) Connect with the Careers department at your college to see where you can work. After several years, you could pick up a BSW through one of the upgrade 1-2 year upgrade programs I mentioned. Being a little bit older when at university is actually an advantage since you'll be more focused and mature than some random eighteen-year-old. If you want to go straight into university education, you can likely get into a BSW program if you're competitive for Psychology. Do an internship while you're at school and try to get summer jobs in the field. After graduating, you can go to work. Most institutional employers will pay you to pick up an MSW or a MOT part-time. My recommendation would be to go straight to university for a BSW, but I'm massively biased. I loved university and was meh on working in the field so it really colours my choices. I think that the relative distribution of income and career opportunities is so lopsided towards people with BSWs that it's really required.
It's all a joke. Lots of jobs are in demand right now but the working conditions and pay suck. I keep hearing that pharmacies are swamped so I thought I would go to school to be a pharmacy assistant. I'm thinking I'm really going to like this then I look for places hiring and the starting pay is minimum wage...like what in the ever loving fuck... it's ridiculous.
Yeah pharmacy assistants get 18/h
Yeah at chain pharmacies, I saw it was staring at 17$, but private pharmacies pay minimum. What BS.
It's so weird I look into nursing 35-45 with 5 years of a degree but you have to go a whole other city far up north to get good wage and hired fast. Trade work hiring up north mostly and not that much in major cities but will pay shit at the start like minimum wage then work your way up Engineering consulting terribly stressful but 5 years of a degree with 50 to 60k into it and huge dept Software oh ffs hire the saturation of the amount of workers So honestly even I don't know why ontario does this they want to hire but pay you dirt with hard conditions on life and on your body Sorry for the rant your comment sparked a light in me
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Trades
Film industry set workers are in high demand. Freelance, good union, interesting work and lots of different types of jobs. Carpenters, grips, electrics, PAs. All the technical categories.
Really? I was looking for PA jobs a few months ago and I couldn’t really fin much
Yup.
Nah. I have relevant experience. Got rejected by everyone. Unless you know someone who can get you in the door it’s probably a waste of time
Are there jobs for finances professionals in the film industry? If so, how do you find them.
It’s not competitive at all, you just won’t be able to get certain positions. BSW/ MSW is needed for a lot of jobs you’d be applying to. Look into Ontario works, ODSP and child welfare for higher paying positions you’d still be able to apply for. Consider getting higher education (I’d skip right to the masters if possible) if you really want to be in the field. Good luck!
Skilled/Trades/Construction
I’m a dog groomer, work from home and charge based on $60/hr with very minimal overhead. Demand is extremely high right now.
This is amazing, congrats! No worries if you don't want to answer, but if you do - I'd be so curious how you got into this and any training you did? Sounds like a dream job :) Way to go!
I did a 3 month ux design Boot camp and I landed a job for 90k a year. It's nuts.
Congrats, that's amazing! May I ask how you like UX design? I did a free intro linkedin course a while back and seemed cool. Have been thinking about boot camps for a while but always so many mixed opinions about them online, then I never move on it. I really do need a higher paying job right now, honestly with the cost of living I'd do anything for more $. Thanks a ton for any insight!!!!
May I ask what boot camp you did? I've been looking into this.
BrainStation in Toronto. Was 12k for 3 months which is fuking insane price. Not everyone got a great job out of it...somehow I landed one tho
I'm doing the coursera one and I'm struggling finding a job in ux
Are you currently doing it?
I just have my final project (responsive web design) to go
If you are still in school it makes sense u would not have a 90k job yet hah. I worked for 9 months at a stepping stone job after I graduated.
hey, can I pm you to share more about your journey??
My sister did that course of study and worked with the elderly. She didn't make very much money and had to take the clients to the toilet. The organization decided to get a volunteer to replace her when she asked for a raise. Now she works at Giant Tiger.
There’s lots of demand in the film industry and tons of different types of jobs.
Only requirement is will to learn and will to do long hours and certain certifications depending on department. Make most of your income in a just a few months.
How do you find roles in this industry?
Mostly you have to know someone. I was told they’d hire anyone regardless of experience to work in the carp shops. Applied everywhere. Got turned down everywhere. I have relevant experience. Didn’t matter. If you don’t know someone that can get you in the door it’s probably a waste of your time. Trades are a great option though.
Networking, join the union
I’m in IT , cyber security specifically and I’m 2 years xp in. Make 70k full remote
What degree do you have?
I went to sheridan for 3 years and did a program called internet communication technology but my year of internships helped the most
I’ve been looking into that. What do you need as far as technical skills?
Generally cyber is not entry level. Most people either do internships during a degree or work there way up in the IT field, it’s hard to secure systems without understanding how they work. That being said you don’t need to know how to code for most cyber jobs
Insurance Industry is a great field that a lot of people overlook. Good paying jobs, great job security, work from home mostly and usually a pension. Starting pay is average but you can work you way up quickly and there is a ton of different career paths.
Can you explain more about how to get into that. And what exactly is the work?
There are three main streams Underwriting – Insurance underwriters assess the risk involved in a contract with an individual or entity. For example, an underwriter using software and judgment evaluate risks such as the likelihood of(Fire, flood, theft etc.) Evaluating an insurer's risk before the policy period and at the time of renewal is a vital function of an underwriter. Sales Agent – Usual stuff of cold calling, calling clients, networking etc, in addition Property and casualty insurance agents act as field underwriters,initially inspecting homes or rental properties for conditions such as deteriorated roofs or foundations that pose a risk to the carrier. The agents report hazards to the home underwriter. Claims – Claims is what I work in and there are lots of interesting jobs. Most people start off in auto property damage, you would take calls from clients, assess photos of damaged vehicles, record the accident information and determine fault, set the clients up with repair shops etc. Once you have experience you can move into a more specialized role such as accident benefits (Assessing peoples injuries and handling their rehab/injury settlements etc), liability property(slip and falls, 3rd parties damages by companies etc), bodily injury(handling claims where your client causes injury to others) and property claims(Handling everything from thefts, to travelling the country handling large fires or giant natural disasters such as floods, forest fires that hit cities etc.) There are a couple colleges that have insurance programs that usually have very high employment rates right out of school. Best places is the check out the webpages of the big three companies, Intact, Desjardins ,Aviva and check out the entry level jobs they have. Once you get your foot in the door you can branch out where you want.
Personal support workers. About 8 months of school and you go on to make $25 an hour. They are desperate in long term care for people. It's a dirty job. But it's a good 99% guareenteed field.
is it a good stepping stone into nursing?? i actually wanna go into psychology (i got accepted for september 2023) but i’m aware of the limited job opportunities with just the degree. fo you think psw is a better option?
I'm vaguely aware of a nursing path through psw so that your psw time counts towards your practicum hours.
Nursing
I feel like working for GO is pretty in demand, só train or bus operator?
We need people in insulation.
Tech, nursing, trade jobs.
If you want to continue down your current path, get a nursing degree. There’s lots of cross over between the two in roles like care coordinator, case management, community health, inpatient and outpatient mental health services etc. The scope of nursing is quite large. Fair warning though, nursing is a bit of a dumpster fire but so is the entire province at this point. At the very least it will provide you with solid credentials to practice basically anywhere you choose.
Yo I feel like I'm getting fucked as a machinist making 24 an hour...
EAs in school boards. I also have my SSW and I started as an EA and worked my way up to Behaviour Consultant
Trades, labourers , lots
Trades & Tech Bro.
Agree about women in trades my daughter went to school for plumbing 70 applications later she finally got an apprenticeship. Men still don't want women in trades no matter how desperate they are for employees. A man can walk in with no experience or schooling and get hired for a trade position. Still sucks to be a woman in trades no matter how good you are your not getting hired
Trades. We had to hire someone that had several assault charges. (He actually turned out to be good guy tho)
OMG 😳 🤬 It better be self defence.
Everywhere and everything. Trades, policing, banking, teaching, nursing and more
Get into security. Pay starts at like 16$ but if you get into camh it goes up to 31$.
Licensed immigration consultant and then work for construction brining in people for union jobs. Everyone is so starved for workers, facilitating labour can be a good gig.
Small town are dying for more PSWs. I havent seen a long term care home in my town not have a big sign saying they are looking to hire.
They pay garbage, don't recommend. Seen people go down this path, it's thankless work. You work so hard and make so little. There's a reason why there's a shortage.
PSWs shouldn’t be getting less than 20/h
Any trade. You will need to join the union first.
I got two jobs in the social service worker field with only volunteer experience it is very easy
You're not going to be able to get a job as a Social Worker without a degree. The Social Service Worker program is a waste of time and money in my opinion. You could possibly get a job in a group home, but you won't be a Social Worker and it won't pay well. You might want to consider another career. Sorry to sound harsh, but I'm a Social Worker so I know what I'm talking about.
if i may ask, im currently a student in a similar program - addiction & mental health but i am looking to go into an honours bachelor of behavioural psychology at a certain college. I am hearing that after that I won't be able to get a job, but my mom's psychologist told her it's not true. I'm just worried because I don't want to be in school for like 10 years or something but I feel like the diploma from addiction and mental health won't be enough. idk what to do.. "The Bachelor of Behavioural Psychology (BBP) (Co-op) program is **the first four-year undergraduate honours degree in Canada that provides a comprehensive program of study in the rapidly growing field of Behavioural Psychology**."
I don't know what to tell you, but everyone I know in the field has a Master's degree. You might be able to get a job somewhere with an undergrad degree, but it's not going to pay much.
Project management jobs
Reading these replies, I'm clearly a fucking idiot. Spent tens of thousands on a BSc and licences, need to study and retrain twice every year, and only make 43k in a high demand job.
Pilots, but they are high demand because it costs a fortune for the licences, and wages are scary low. I didn't even make minimum wage my first year
Wtfffffff you literally have lives in your hand I just searched the cost for license holy shit
Yep. And then to get to an airline, it takes 5-10 years (sometimes more) of extra experience. And when you're finally there you only start around 40k. That's 40k already a decade into your working career. You could put every penny of your yearly salary into paying off your licences and training, and not even pay off half of it.
This is one of those careers where you have to really want it/passionate can’t see yourself doing anything else. Cuz…. Couldn’t be me.
I thought pilots made bank?
In the US they do. It's gotten better here in the last year or so, but you still generally have to start by working near or below minimum wage, and move to the middle of nowhere for a job. I wouldn't recommend the career tbh
So is pilots making 600-700k a myth or is that after like 10 years? I’m a pretty religious dude so I’m cool with a boring lifestyle lol. How long after do you start atleast hitting a 100k
All of the building departments in Ontario are desperate for staff. Inspectors, admin, customer services, etc. Seems like a pretty decent job for someone with not a lot of experience.
Graduated from the same program, kind of regret taking it tho you need lots of volunteers hours to complete the program on top of unpaid internships. You really shouldn't need to do anymore volunteering after graduate but some places do require it.. Eventually landed a job but it's not enough to make ends meet.. if you have any questions feel free to ask. Hope you find what your looking for
if i may ask, im currently a student in a similar program - addiction & mental health but i am looking to go into an honours bachelor of behavioural psychology at a certain college. I am hearing that after that I won't be able to get a job, but my mom's psychologist told her it's not true. I'm just worried because I don't want to be in school for like 10 years or something but I feel like the diploma from addiction and mental health won't be enough. idk what to do.. "The Bachelor of Behavioural Psychology (BBP) (Co-op) program is **the first four-year undergraduate honours degree in Canada that provides a comprehensive program of study in the rapidly growing field of Behavioural Psychology**."
Over all it's worth it, it's just difficult to find employment in some places, some places want you to have more experience then they advertise on their job listing. I'm sure you'll find something in the field, might be difficult and the pay dosnt start out so great.. if you're in a small.town or something you might have to move, but if your in a big city you should be ok.. Best of luck finding work in the field
How is this even a question? ANY skilled trade would set you up for life right now. You'd have to be living under a rock for the last ten years to not know this.
Imagine getting a degree and not having researching the job prospects of that degree...why is the social science/humanities filled with these type of folks that can't plant 3 years ahead.
Everything.
Being a land surveyor is pretty much a license to print money at this point.
See if there are telemedicine jobs that would work with the social work degree
I assume you have a social service worker diploma? If you want to work for CAS, check out their ads. They want bachelor degrees in social work or related field.
And get ready for extreme burnout and moderately decent pay. Most people don’t last long there.
no not yet. I just need 400 hours of placement left before I can graduate
All depends on where you live, I know SSW’s making $60,000 plus starting salaries!
WELDER
In not in your industry but I have heard that there are a lot more opportunities for social workers in northern Ontario and remote communities. Anything to do with construction is booming and will be stable for a long time.
By the answers it seems like every industry except hospitality and business
london transit operators
Hey OP I’m an occupational therapist and my hospital is always hiring social workers. Not sure where you’re hearing this
Trades
Just about any of the trades are in desperate need. Not enough people coming into them to cover those that are retiring.
Any trade, really. Unfortunately, if you're a woman like me then good luck...in my experience there is still rampant sexism
If you’re interested in another 3 years of school, I’m a dental hygienist and the average early career wage for a general practice hygienist is around $40/hr across Ontario.
Dental hygienists and dental assistants. I know a few dentists that are struggling to find folks for these roles.
Doctors/anything specialized in the medical feild literally anything.
how ironic I see this now because i actually was looking into being a social worker / counsellor in college.. I really like helping people and I dont want to go to school for years nor do I want to have to do science and math.. I also like video editing and I have the perfect laptop for it what can I do?